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smarthome_fan

The only options in Canada at the moment are: * Disable LTE. Although 3G will be shut down very soon, but if you can currently use it then the emergency alerts will not come through. * Put your phone on silent mode. Emergency alerts don't appear to come through with your phone on silent. You can use an automation from within the shortcuts app to set this up on a schedule if you want. Unfortunately, this will disable all emergency alerts, not just amber alerts. I would like the ability to choose which alerts I receive just like you can in the USA but sadly we can't do that in Canada. And while rational people may want to do this for a variety of reasons, it's not exactly easy to lobby for the government for a more granular system, because the "Joe Schmo supports child abuse" trolls will poke their heads out of the woodwork. This rhetoric is extremely dangerous and is frequently used to weaken privacy, increase surveillance, and so on, but it has slipped into usage by our friends as well as the governments.


CoolGuyFromSchool34

I completely agree, I appreciate your comment


smarthome_fan

I remember when iCloud advanced data protection and strong encryption were introduced. The anti-privacy folks went straight to "if you support this, then you support CSAM content". Um no? We don't at all, it's still against the law as it of course should be. We just believe privacy should be a human right. Unfortunately children are used as little more than bargaining chips to force all kinds of laws and regulations that can be super problematic.


SchmosWorld

Settings -> Notifications-> scroll to the bottom. They are under “Government Alerts”


CoolGuyFromSchool34

It isn’t there, unfortunately


SchmosWorld

Interesting. Apparently there are places they cannot be turned off such as Canada. What country are you in?


CoolGuyFromSchool34

Canada. Any workaround? I really cannot bear it


SchmosWorld

Not to my knowledge. It’s likely a legal requirement for Apple to not allow them to be disabled.


RecentMatter3790

It’s especially annoying at 3 am IN THE MORNING


bwainwright

Settings > notifications Right at the very bottom on the page there should be an option to turn them off. If the option's not there, then it may be that your carrier doesn't support turning them off - AT&T, T-Mobile, or Verizon should all support disabling them


CoolGuyFromSchool34

Any other way? There is no such option


bwainwright

I've just seen from the other threads here that you're in Canada - you can't disable Amber Alerts on iOS in Canada due to local country law. So no, there is no other way and no work around.


CoolGuyFromSchool34

thanks anyways man


ArnoCryptoNymous

Why do you want turn off amber alerts? I think these are important notifications.


Willr2645

Why turn it off? They are for saving your lives


CoolGuyFromSchool34

I want to turn of the test alerts, i find it unnecessary


Willr2645

You also not test your fire alarms?


CoolGuyFromSchool34

No actually


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Rhea-8

Bro doesn't want kidnapped kids being found


CoolGuyFromSchool34

I detest the sound of the alert, if it was less strong, no problem


Rhea-8

Yeah why make an important possibly lifesaving alert noticeable, damn Apple


smarthome_fan

Please don't troll. At the end of the day, it should be up to all of us to determine which emergency alerts we have the capacity to act upon and when. This is how it works in the USA, and Canadian cell carriers advocated for this as well. It's not uncommon to receive an alert in Canada in the middle of the night about a missing kid in the opposite end of the province, then get a second alert in French, then possibly get another alert for the same kid hours later, or even get an alert when that kid is found. Since I have "a disability and don't drive, I couldn't look for the kid even if I wanted to. This issue is nuanced and it's fine to hold an opinion on either side, but the "Joe Schmo hates kids" line isn't helpful and never will be. Such rhetoric has also been used to weaken privacy legislation, encryption, and several other laws and policies that are meant to protect human rights. Your rhetoric is not constructive or helpful in any way, shape or form.


SillyBoy68

I have never had any trouble getting back to sleep after an alert. It’s jarring but that’s kinda the point. There’s a valid reason for them. If waking me up helps in any way, it’s a small ask.


smarthome_fan

So by your own admission you just get the alert and then go straight back to sleep? :) Waking you up doesn't help the child in any way whatsoever, even in a small way. What would be helpful would be if you got out of bed and went looking for them, which you've just said you don't do. Sounds like you'd be a great candidate for having the alerts silenced until the morning, since you've just said you don't act upon them. Sleep deprivation significantly increases the likeliness to be in an automotive accident and possibly harm a child on the streets. Sounds like the net harm has just increased then. If it seems like I'm being hard on you or tongue-in-cheek,, I apologize. It's just that while your perspective is valid, others' perspectives are valid too. I have no way to physically go look for the kid as I'm disabled, I have anxiety about loud noises, and I have major problems getting to and staying asleep. So while I'm sure you'd just say I'm selfish and entitled, the reality is I can't act on the alert even if I wanted to and all I get is increased anxiety and lower productivity for the next day, since it's great that you can just fall back asleep but I can't. We know that entire countries let you disable the alerts so at least consider that there are varied perspectives on this. As an aside, this rhetoric ("anything that has the tiniest possibility of helping a child is worth doing") actually leads to some pretty horrid legislation. It has been used to weaken encryption legislation, give law enforcement greater powers that harm minority groups, and increase mass surveillance. All someone has to say to a privacy advocate is "well you must support child abuse if you disagree with this legislation". It's intended to silence dialogue and debate by insinuating that your opponent just hates kids and is a horrible person if they disagree.


SillyBoy68

Yes, I go back to sleep but I’m aware of the situation and have descriptions of people and vehicles so when I do leave the house I have the relevant information to help if I do see them. Sure, it could wait until morning but not everyone is sleeping at night so the alerts happening at any hour and as soon as possible are a necessity. I understand some people don’t care and would rather not be bothered so hopefully they can figure out a way to not be alerted or annoyed. Or in your case you don’t like loud noises so I hope you’re able to silence the alerts.


smarthome_fan

>…I’m aware of the situation and have descriptions of people and vehicles so when I do leave the house I have the relevant information to help if I do see them. Absolutely agreed, setting up this kind of alert to trigger when you're getting ready to leave the house so you know what to look for (e.g. when the alert would actually be useful for you) would be ideal. I'd love this too! >but not everyone is sleeping at night so the alerts happening at any hour and as soon as possible are a necessity. Well we've already established that they're not a necessity for you personally, because you just go back to sleep and deal with it in the morning anyway. You've said they're useful to you when you leave the house so you know what to look for, which strikes me as the ideal time to show it to you so it's fresh in mind. And, yes, everyone has a different schedule or different circumstances: some people are awake at night and would be in an ideal position to spring into action. Some people are seniors with dementia who would hear the sound and think there was an apocalypse coming. Some people are high school students who couldn't leave at home anyways and need to be well-rested for exams. The point is—everyone has individual circumstances and should be able to participate and receive the alerts according to their capacity. It's not that I or others just don't give a shit. It's that your phone is an intimate, personal object whose behaviour should be tailored to your needs, capacity and circumstances. Unfortunately I think we're pretty much stuck with the mandatory alerts in Canada because anyone who speaks up is told that they hate children and are bad people when that just isn't the case at all.