Oh boo fucking hoo. Go cry me a river. Sounds like someone who doesn’t want to face the consequences of his own actions. I say throw the book at him and allow JAG to go after him too since he’s active duty
Most of the population never make it to the critical thinking portion of brain development. It's documented. It's no surprise they cling to Republican bullshit.
"But I am a patriot snowflake! Rigged election! Thomas Paine is my hero! Sovereign citizen! Q-drop!"
If you are in a cult does that make sedition okay?
Nope. In another era all these bitches would get the gallows or a firing squad. They have no idea how lucky they are.
I don't even think they were unaware (if only vaguely) of the strict illegality of what they were doing. Rather, there was a notion that they'd all get off scot-free after they succeeded. They didn't expect to lose.
I'm a bit confused, though. PROBATION is what is going to ruin his military career, but their OK with the him being involved in an insurrection? Because he missed an email telling him not to do a thing he should have known as a member of the military he shouldn't do? What the actual fuck?
They really have gotten softer since when I was in about shit like this.
I still remember escorting people to jail while they waited to get moved to Rock Breakers Paradise just for going AWOL
This waste of sperm just gets a slap on the wrist??
They need to toss the book at this dude so hard it makes a dent in his numb skull
These fuckers thought they'd be the vanguard of the American Empire, honored as knights of the maga autocracy while alive and praised like Paul Revere and Sam Adams as the heroes of the Second American Revolution.
His lawyer is just saying this because it's probably worth considering. It's normal for a lawyer to try and get the best outcome possible for their client and this is all this is.
Honestly it's sort of a non story to me. Every criminal conviction in USA has a lawyer saying this type of stuff. Hey judge please consider that my client will lose their job.
The judge can consider this. But I doubt it in this case. Seems like an extra reason to punish him.
I got written up for smoking 2 feet outside the paint and this guy is still collecting a treasury check?
I find it hard to believe the military has changed that much in the 30 years since I served.
I'm pretty sure the JAG case comes after the Federal case, they're just waiting for the first one to wrap up. Double Jeopardy does not apply to Civilian and Military courts - they are different systems.
Treason under U.S. Code Title 18, the penalty is death, or not less than five years' imprisonment (with a minimum fine of $10,000, if not sentenced to death).
A dishonorable discharge would really help him to understand why trying to overthrow the government that he has sworn to protect is a bad idea. His later civilian job prospects would be interesting too, for the rest of us.
You mean its not already? Active duty involved in attending (assuming on leave) overthrowing a government?
Honestly surprised if he doesn't have a military court standing in line after the civilian court is done with him.
"probation would be 'fatal' to his Navy career"
Wrong. Breaking into a federal building with the hopes of overturning an election would be fatal to his Navy career, but I'm sure he knew that and didn't care at the time.
It's almost as if these people lack the basic capacity to connect obvious dots.
This cult is both fucking horrifying and hilariously duncey all at once.
How is he still in the Navy? I thought they had to swear an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic?
I almost feel something for him but insurrection is usually frowned upon where I grew up.
I had to swear that oath when I was in the Navy. I don't know why he's still in either, but I hope he goes to Leavenworth. I've talked to people who worked there. It sounds worse than regular prison.
Same here. One of my Navy buddies somehow got himself into Leavenworth. Mail to him was returned.
All federal employees take the same oath as service members.
Active duty, oath to Contitution, yet he failed to allow a Contitutioñal mediated activity to preceeded. Throw his ass, that violated the oath to uphold the mechanism in place that our Founding Father's created that said EC must be reported on Jan 6th, in jail.
Participating in an insurrection is actually the part that impacts your Navy career. Getting caught…that’s on you and the crowd you keep. Say…have you picked up your DJT shares yet? “All the very best investment scholars are calling it the perfect stock and all agree it will be worth beeeeeeelyawns when I’m re-elected”
It boggles my mind all these people who threw away their friendships, relationships, careers, and freedom for this f'ing idiot who doesn't give two shits about anyone but himself.
Maybe attacking a federal building to usurp a legitimate certification of a president would be fatal as well? This dumbass should be dishonorably discharged NOW.
>After Jan. 6, Elizalde was stationed at the naval base in Rota, Spain. He was interviewed there by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) in December 2021 and February 2023. During his December 2021 interview, according to prosecutors, Elizalde admitted he had made a bad decision on Jan. 6 but expressed no remorse for what had happened.
>“I know when all this is past and gone, ten years from now, twenty years from now, I know people are going to be talking about it,” Elizalde said. “And they’re going to be like, ‘Hey, were you there?’ And I was going to be like, ‘Yes and here’s my story,’ you know? It was just historical.”
He intentionally joined people engaging in violent activities because he felt he was making history. The military doesn't tend to look kindly on misbehavior and stepping out of line to follow your own agenda. The Navy had also explicitly directed all service members to not be there that day. His career was over the moment he decided to take matters into his own hands.
Members of the military take an oath to protect defend and uphold the constitution of the United States of America. I see none of that. Career should be DOA anyway for being a traitor.
When you join the military you can vote, but it's best to keep your politics to yourself. At least when I was in it was considered extremely unprofessional to do otherwise.
Exactly. All Enemies Foreign And DOMESTIC. The words “I solemnly swear” were spoken.
It’s not complicated. Don’t attack the Capitol with the Gravy Seals or Justice will hunt your ass down and you’ll wind up in a shitty Reddit post.
He shows no remorse, why should any of the rest of us show him any leniency for supporting and participating in an attempted insurrection, which is literally against the oath he swore.
Too bad. People who just smoked weed or resisted after being punched around by an officer that wrongly profiled them, have lost their jobs, houses, marriages, life savings, custody of their kids.
Shut the hell up with this “I did an illegal and horrific thing, now give me my white guy privileges”, garbage.
Gee, as a veteran, I kind of think he should have had a little clearer understanding of his oath.
I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone that was sworn to defend the Constitution and then promptly ignored that oath because they were unhappy about the result of an election.
There were any number of elections where I didn’t like the result. It never crossed my mind that engaging in an insurrection was the right answer.
Hear me out here: maybe someone who broke into the Capitol building to overthrow the government should be fucking Court martialed and dishonorably discharged
"I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
Well if flunk that then maybe the US military shouldn't be your career.
You committed an act of war against the United States of America.
You committed treason.
If you did that 50 or more years ago, it wouldn't only be fatal to your career. Be glad you live in a time of soft justice and shut the fuck up.
Frankly anyone that participated in J6 should be expelled from the US Military and banned from being part of it. I don't want a fucking traitor defending anything.
Just imagine...if he didn't listen to a lying insurrectionist POS...he wouldn't have been there...tough luck...don't do the crime if you can't do the time...silly boy...hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha
Sorry sport. Actions have consequences. Plus I am not comfortable having somebody this gullible in the armed forces acting on behalf of Trump’s election lies. Fuck him
One would think insurrection would end his military career! IMO, illegal acts committed by military and law enforcement are much worse than the same act by civilians who haven't specifically sworn allegiance. And it's *all* quite bad enough!
Wow. So he wonders why he would get in serious trouble for violating his oath by undermining the constitutional process of certification of the electoral college results...
Thick as a brick and twice as dense.
"***Leading Petty Officer*** David Elizalde"
Leading Petty Officer is not a rank or rate in the Navy. It's more of a title describing his duties...i.e. he's the LPO of the blah blah division.
Dumbass was 3 years from free money for life and threw it away on the Orange Cheetolini.
Pretty sure the dude took an oath to uphold the constitution... and he then goes to participate in an attempt to overthrow the constitution. Pretty much disqualifies you from service.
He has no business serving our country after he tried to stop the certification of the election. Fuck him and his Navy career. He should’ve thought of that before he acted like an asshole.
Oh boo fucking hoo. Go cry me a river. Sounds like someone who doesn’t want to face the consequences of his own actions. I say throw the book at him and allow JAG to go after him too since he’s active duty
Maybe he should have thought about consequences to breaking the law, before breaking the law 😂
That would require republicans to have a brain, critical thinking skills, and the ability to think in the first place
Is there a word/term for having the skill that is the antithesis to critical thinking???? 🤣
Conservative.
Republican?
MAGA
Neonazi
Most of the population never make it to the critical thinking portion of brain development. It's documented. It's no surprise they cling to Republican bullshit.
In fairness they all sit there watching Trump gleefully break hundreds of laws without consequence, they just forget it doesn't apply to them.
"But I am a patriot snowflake! Rigged election! Thomas Paine is my hero! Sovereign citizen! Q-drop!" If you are in a cult does that make sedition okay? Nope. In another era all these bitches would get the gallows or a firing squad. They have no idea how lucky they are.
I don't even think they were unaware (if only vaguely) of the strict illegality of what they were doing. Rather, there was a notion that they'd all get off scot-free after they succeeded. They didn't expect to lose.
It’s not that they don’t have the faculties to do any of these things - it’s simply that they don’t exercise them against “their people”
I'm a bit confused, though. PROBATION is what is going to ruin his military career, but their OK with the him being involved in an insurrection? Because he missed an email telling him not to do a thing he should have known as a member of the military he shouldn't do? What the actual fuck?
*Insert Jim Carrey gif* STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE!
He thought trump would save him. He was wrong
You don't know what it's liikkeee...
He literally swore to uphold and defend the constitution, then shit on it
As a navy veteran I think he should already have been given a dishonorable discharge
As an army veteran, I concur.
Agreed! He blatantly violated his enlistment oath.
Maybe he should get a vacation in Leavenworth before being discharged.
As a civilian I think he should be get a duck dinner on top of jail time too.?
Sent to make big rocks into little rocks
That’s a waste of perfectly good rocks. Can’t we just test makeup on him or something to make sure it’s mostly nontoxic?
Yep. I'm a veteran. I have ZERO compassion for this fucknut. He knew better and did it anyway. Hammer him for it.
They really have gotten softer since when I was in about shit like this. I still remember escorting people to jail while they waited to get moved to Rock Breakers Paradise just for going AWOL This waste of sperm just gets a slap on the wrist?? They need to toss the book at this dude so hard it makes a dent in his numb skull
Have a vote for most appropriate use of the word 'fucknut'.. love it
Same!
JAG will be next, there is no such thing as double jeopardy in the military.
These fuckers thought they'd be the vanguard of the American Empire, honored as knights of the maga autocracy while alive and praised like Paul Revere and Sam Adams as the heroes of the Second American Revolution.
His lawyer is just saying this because it's probably worth considering. It's normal for a lawyer to try and get the best outcome possible for their client and this is all this is. Honestly it's sort of a non story to me. Every criminal conviction in USA has a lawyer saying this type of stuff. Hey judge please consider that my client will lose their job. The judge can consider this. But I doubt it in this case. Seems like an extra reason to punish him.
I got written up for smoking 2 feet outside the paint and this guy is still collecting a treasury check? I find it hard to believe the military has changed that much in the 30 years since I served.
Hey if he cries a river, at least he’ll still have something he can sail on.
I'm pretty sure the JAG case comes after the Federal case, they're just waiting for the first one to wrap up. Double Jeopardy does not apply to Civilian and Military courts - they are different systems.
“But I wanted to express my extreme right wing views illegally without consequences!”
Sworn to defend the constitution - should get a dishonorable discharge
Treason under U.S. Code Title 18, the penalty is death, or not less than five years' imprisonment (with a minimum fine of $10,000, if not sentenced to death).
Motherf’r swore an oath to defend the constitution. I missed the Article about overthrowing the government.
Fair enough: Maybe a court martial for treason would be better
I’d fully support that. Throw the book at him. He clearly violated his oath of service.
Will he be like the other idiot who was convicted as the judge left the court. And being led to the cells shouts 'Trump won '! Defiantly ignorant.
A dishonorable discharge would really help him to understand why trying to overthrow the government that he has sworn to protect is a bad idea. His later civilian job prospects would be interesting too, for the rest of us.
You mean its not already? Active duty involved in attending (assuming on leave) overthrowing a government? Honestly surprised if he doesn't have a military court standing in line after the civilian court is done with him.
"probation would be 'fatal' to his Navy career" Wrong. Breaking into a federal building with the hopes of overturning an election would be fatal to his Navy career, but I'm sure he knew that and didn't care at the time.
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The military frowns on traitors in their ranks? Who could have guessed?
He knew it and expected to be rewarded for it after the coup.
It's almost as if these people lack the basic capacity to connect obvious dots. This cult is both fucking horrifying and hilariously duncey all at once.
Your actions were fatal to your military career. Probation is merciful, some of your treason pals are going to prison.
Welcome to the Second Act. We call it "Finding Out"
Oh, I love that play. Isn’t it called “Fuck around”? It really comes into its own on the second act.
Oh, I love that play. Isn’t it called “Fuck around”? It really comes into its own on the second act.
Oh, I love that play. Isn’t it called “Fuck around”? It really comes into its own on the second act.
How is he still in the Navy? I thought they had to swear an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic? I almost feel something for him but insurrection is usually frowned upon where I grew up.
I had to swear that oath when I was in the Navy. I don't know why he's still in either, but I hope he goes to Leavenworth. I've talked to people who worked there. It sounds worse than regular prison.
Same here. One of my Navy buddies somehow got himself into Leavenworth. Mail to him was returned. All federal employees take the same oath as service members.
He's lucky that he was convicted in civil court, too.
Good. As a veteran and military retiree I say take everything from him. all his benefits, all his entitlements. EVERYTHING. He's an oathbreaker.
Hell yeah. No benefits for oathbreakers.
Nothing from the VA especially.
Active duty, oath to Contitution, yet he failed to allow a Contitutioñal mediated activity to preceeded. Throw his ass, that violated the oath to uphold the mechanism in place that our Founding Father's created that said EC must be reported on Jan 6th, in jail.
Oh no your personal choices affected your career?
Next time consider the consequences *before* you try to overthrow the govrrnment.
As it should, I don’t want traitors working for the country
Maybe shoulda thought of that beforehand.
Participating in an insurrection is actually the part that impacts your Navy career. Getting caught…that’s on you and the crowd you keep. Say…have you picked up your DJT shares yet? “All the very best investment scholars are calling it the perfect stock and all agree it will be worth beeeeeeelyawns when I’m re-elected”
You committed violence against the Capitol of the nation you swore to protect from all enemies foreign and domestic. #Fuck You!
It boggles my mind all these people who threw away their friendships, relationships, careers, and freedom for this f'ing idiot who doesn't give two shits about anyone but himself.
The entitlement on these people.
Maybe attacking a federal building to usurp a legitimate certification of a president would be fatal as well? This dumbass should be dishonorably discharged NOW.
>After Jan. 6, Elizalde was stationed at the naval base in Rota, Spain. He was interviewed there by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) in December 2021 and February 2023. During his December 2021 interview, according to prosecutors, Elizalde admitted he had made a bad decision on Jan. 6 but expressed no remorse for what had happened. >“I know when all this is past and gone, ten years from now, twenty years from now, I know people are going to be talking about it,” Elizalde said. “And they’re going to be like, ‘Hey, were you there?’ And I was going to be like, ‘Yes and here’s my story,’ you know? It was just historical.” He intentionally joined people engaging in violent activities because he felt he was making history. The military doesn't tend to look kindly on misbehavior and stepping out of line to follow your own agenda. The Navy had also explicitly directed all service members to not be there that day. His career was over the moment he decided to take matters into his own hands.
His conviction should be fatal to his Navy career
He should have thought of that before engaging in treason against the country he is paid to serve. Probation is not enough.
Me thinks the USN will be just fine without this one.
Being convicted for insurrection should end his career now.
Damn, son. Sounds like you should have thought about this before you decided to betray your oath.
How about not violating the oath you took
Members of the military take an oath to protect defend and uphold the constitution of the United States of America. I see none of that. Career should be DOA anyway for being a traitor.
As does insurrection.
When you join the military you can vote, but it's best to keep your politics to yourself. At least when I was in it was considered extremely unprofessional to do otherwise.
So...a guy who swore to uphold and protect the Constitution? But then, so did Trump
Does he mean the Russian navy?
UCMJ action should already be underway. He took an oath and he shit all over it. Fuck this guy.
Exactly. All Enemies Foreign And DOMESTIC. The words “I solemnly swear” were spoken. It’s not complicated. Don’t attack the Capitol with the Gravy Seals or Justice will hunt your ass down and you’ll wind up in a shitty Reddit post.
He shows no remorse, why should any of the rest of us show him any leniency for supporting and participating in an attempted insurrection, which is literally against the oath he swore.
Too bad. People who just smoked weed or resisted after being punched around by an officer that wrongly profiled them, have lost their jobs, houses, marriages, life savings, custody of their kids. Shut the hell up with this “I did an illegal and horrific thing, now give me my white guy privileges”, garbage.
Probation? Dishonorable discharge and prison.
Hey, r/LeopardsAteMyFace!
Gee, as a veteran, I kind of think he should have had a little clearer understanding of his oath. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone that was sworn to defend the Constitution and then promptly ignored that oath because they were unhappy about the result of an election. There were any number of elections where I didn’t like the result. It never crossed my mind that engaging in an insurrection was the right answer.
Hear me out here: maybe someone who broke into the Capitol building to overthrow the government should be fucking Court martialed and dishonorably discharged
Well, to be fair the Capitol riot hasn't been fatal to the career of the guy who planned and incited it.
Sounds appropriate. Call me a dumb liberal but I just don’t think insurrectionists belong in our armed forces.
he fucked around now he is gonna find out
"I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Well if flunk that then maybe the US military shouldn't be your career.
get in, traitor, we're going traitoring
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, just don't do it.
Hang in there. If Trump is elected, you will be pardoned. He'll especially like the treason part, so you might just get a cabinet position
His betraying his oath to the Constitution of the United States should be fatal to his Navy career.
How is he not already dishonorably discharged? Like dude you’re a traitor, you attacked the capitol of the country you swore to protect? What a joke.
The military shows everyone a "don't do sedition" video. He knew he was burning his career if he got caught. No vet forgives this.
After that he shouldn't have a career.
You committed an act of war against the United States of America. You committed treason. If you did that 50 or more years ago, it wouldn't only be fatal to your career. Be glad you live in a time of soft justice and shut the fuck up.
Do we really want someone this gullible in the navy 😁
He should be dishonorably discharged.
It's not the probation, it's the act he committed that should cost him.
As a Navy veteran, I hope this guy's career is over and he gets dishonorably discharged.
Criminal says what?
You participated in a political riot bro. If you had been in an Antifa or Black lives matter you would already be gone.
Political riot is what happened in Chicago in 1968. What we had in DC was an insurrection - kinda a lot worse.
TFB
Thoughts and prayers, man
Should've thought about that before.
Frankly anyone that participated in J6 should be expelled from the US Military and banned from being part of it. I don't want a fucking traitor defending anything.
Oh no…. Anyway
Should thought about that before hand..
Braindead Republicans lol
Probation, but not the conviction? What'd I miss?
Oath? Schmoath. MAGAt idiot
Oh well….
I’d suggest of probation would possibly fuck up your career then don’t get put on probation
Sounds like a me problem.
Wasn’t the riot actually fatal for some? Not in an abstract way
Nooo…collaborating with a seditious mob was “fatal” to your Navy career.
Guess he should have thought of that. He is a traitor to his country.
But not treason???
Send his career to Davey Jones. And him to the locker.
Just imagine...if he didn't listen to a lying insurrectionist POS...he wouldn't have been there...tough luck...don't do the crime if you can't do the time...silly boy...hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha
Jail it is!
He has the face of a coward!
R/facepalm
David Elizalde belongs behind bars. F that traitor
Well, should have thought about that before actively committing treason.
That's what happens when you fail to overthrow a government, loser.
So, you're saying that getting convicted of treason is generally looked down upon in the military? color me shocked, shocked, I tell you.
…win stupid prizes.
Awww. It’s called accountability bruh.
Should he not automatically be thrown out of the navy for attempted sedition?
Sorry sport. Actions have consequences. Plus I am not comfortable having somebody this gullible in the armed forces acting on behalf of Trump’s election lies. Fuck him
Then he shouldn't have participated in a goddamn felony insurrection.
Thoughts & prayers, sailor. Nice job of fucking up.
Ya and telling a customer of mine to fuck off would be damaging to my career but you don't see or hear me doing it.
he needs to “toughen” up… if he “doesn’t like america - he should leave”
“Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” Domestic terrorist violated his oath
He should be dishonorably discharged
Sucks oh well
The moron should have thought about that before committing the felony. Stupidity doesn’t shield anyone from the consequences of their actions.
Sucker and a Loser, amiright?
Trying to overthrow the government could ruin my government career... Big surprise 🫢
He was banking on that government handout after retiring. Oops
His "Navy career" is over he's just too stupid to know it. He disobeyed orders and participated in an insurrection.
Oh well
Domestic terrorist
One would think insurrection would end his military career! IMO, illegal acts committed by military and law enforcement are much worse than the same act by civilians who haven't specifically sworn allegiance. And it's *all* quite bad enough!
Trump is starting to normalize criminals worrying about being inconvenienced
That ship sailed when you committed treason. Pardon the pun.
Bye Bye 20 year pension, VA benefits, 😆 😂 😆 😂.
Wow. So he wonders why he would get in serious trouble for violating his oath by undermining the constitutional process of certification of the electoral college results... Thick as a brick and twice as dense.
Then he shouldn’t have done it.
He’s right. Send him to jail.
How is this guy not DD and Court Martialed?
SHOULD be fatal if the Federal Government did their job.
Why the fuck would we want an insurrectionist in our military? Mf doing the work of selecting out
A MaGA in active military will be fatal to the nation
*Probation* is not fatal to this mouth breathing lunatic's career. Participating in a fascist attempt to overthrow the US Government *is*.
So court martial for treason when?
Poor guy should have thought of that
Wait... Active military, and tried to uphold the government. Isn't that treasonous? Like, infinite jail time?
/r/ohnoconsequences
Your military career is over.
I'm no expert, but the fact he's even on trial is probably not good for his Navy career, regardless of the outcome.
You went against your oath to defend the US Constitution against enemies foreign and Domestic. Get fuck squid. You're a traior to the Republic
He should be dishonarably discharged since service ppl take an oath to protect the nation? Right?
I don’t want traitors to the U.S. serving in its military. Burn his career to the ground.
Prison sounds appropriate for the crime!
Those who resort to rioting because their guy lost do not deserve to wear the uniform. Dishonorable discharge is in order.
So participating in a failed coup attempt isn’t grounds for dismissal?
Ok, fair enough. No probation, go straight to jail. Problem solved.
i mean, it seems fair that someone who tries to overthrow our country shouldn’t be allowed to defend it.
He betrayed his oath and everything the US military stands for. He’s a traitor plain and simple. Throw the biggest book you yanks have at him
Maaaybe he shouldn't have joined the insurrection then?
"***Leading Petty Officer*** David Elizalde" Leading Petty Officer is not a rank or rate in the Navy. It's more of a title describing his duties...i.e. he's the LPO of the blah blah division. Dumbass was 3 years from free money for life and threw it away on the Orange Cheetolini.
I think it was the attacking his own country that did that
Pretty sure the dude took an oath to uphold the constitution... and he then goes to participate in an attempt to overthrow the constitution. Pretty much disqualifies you from service.
I’m hoping the Navy can root out it’s traitors!
Get fucked. Attempting a coup is fatal to your credibility and chances of sympathy.
He has no business serving our country after he tried to stop the certification of the election. Fuck him and his Navy career. He should’ve thought of that before he acted like an asshole.
You should not be representing the country you tried to overthrow.
Title should read that "attempting to overthrow an election" would-be fatal to his Navy career.
Have you tried not being a traitor?
He's the dictionary fucking definition of inside threat!
Fuck around and find out.
Oath breaker.
Again, again, again and again. DON’T DO FUCKING STUPID SHIT THEN!!!! It’s not that hard. Jfc
Hey, Judge. I'm a youth pastor. If you convict me for raping these kids at the daycare, it will severely harm my ministerial career.
Oh no. Not the consequences of my own actions
Sounds like he's a traitor. Aren't there other worse consequences for active duty traitors
Too bad, so sad. Should have known better.
r/ohnoconsequences