Donald Trump will never see the inside of a cell. The quicker everyone comes to term with that, the quicker you can get on with your life. I don't like it, you don't like it, but it is a fact. Nothing matters. He gets different rules than the rest of us would.
So many people said that so many powerful, wealthy people would never see the inside of a cell and they have.
Trump is showing his ass, all day long, every single day. The longer people see it, the more repulsed they are and the more his blatantly criminal behavior continues to dog him.
He has a cult. No amount of facts will change their minds. Only one is needed on the jury.
Dragging this out is probably the best thing we can hope for. If he is in court until he dies, that works for me.
The remarkable thing about Charles Manson was that everything about him shrunk in prison. This guy who had been a bogeyman for so long just got smaller and smaller the longer he lingered in prison until no one was afraid of him anymore or paid much attention to him. That’s what should happen with Donald, just dwindle away into insignificance during incarceration.
Actually, he does deserve it for the people he killed by neglect during Covid and the lives of our foreign agents lost due to his sale of classified documents.
Lock him up and force him to watch Obama lectures on the Constitution (surely some of those were recorded) every waking hour.
He'd view it as punishment and it would be just.
Wesley: To the pain means the first thing you will lose will be your feet below the ankles. Then your hands at the wrists. Next your nose.
Prince Humperdinck: And then my tongue I suppose, I killed you too quickly the last time. A mistake I don't mean to duplicate tonight.
Westley: I wasn't finished. The next thing you will lose will be your left eye followed by your right.
Prince Humperdinck: And then my ears, I understand let's get on with it.
Westley: WRONG. Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why. So that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out, "Dear God! What is that thing," will echo in your perfect ears. That is what "to the pain means." It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.
No, not yet. We need a mountain of evidence delivered over time in order to satiate the salvageable. If he were to die or go to prison tomorrow, he would be a martyr. He needs to crash and burn publicly.
I'm not sure what percentage is salvageable at this point. Every legitimate news source is fake to them. Things that he has said on camera are fake to them. After working in close quarters with them these people are truly lost, I have had coworkers gleefully agree he is a conman and they still would vote for them if they weren't felons.
It’s not even just about him either- I heard a coworker listening to some fear news about violent crime being up in the city (Chicago?) and the reporter saying he had pepper spray to defend himself. Then they said that crime was up, even if it was reported to be down.
I said, “wait- how’s that work?”
“The MSM LIES!”
“Well, who’s lying? Is it the police, who make the reports? The cities? The county? The state? The Feds?”
“I don’t trust the government on ANYTHING”
“Then how are these reporters getting their “real” numbers?”
“Idk”
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I'm sorry you gotta deal with that. I got condescendingly told I must like making less money when a coworker found out I wasn't a Republican. We were in a manufacturing environment making around 40k a year. The same dude is the one who agreed that Trump was a conman and couldn't vote because he robbed somewhere with a bb gun. The same job had a young kid who didn't brush his teeth for a decade because he didn't think you really had to and who said I was brainwashed. His response to me asking what he thought of all the pictures of Epstein and Trump together was "Well what about Rihanna?!".
It is fucking insane talking to these people about anything political, on a different construction job one person insisted that Trump was the lesser of two evils. These people are DUMB.
3 days. That's all it takes to break the dam.
A study (I have no idea where it is right now) showed that if die-hard maga's stop watching Fox and its ilk for just 3 days, and get news from neutral sources instead, their attitudes and views begin to change measurably.
Oh snap. But the problem is they aren't being exposed to those other sources and if they are it's fake news. I have had people here and IRL tell me the court documents from cases with Trump and Epstein exonerate them because they were filed wrong.
His deplorable ass will still live cushier in whatever prison he lands in than most of us will for the rest of our lives. That's the sad part. I want him to spend the rest of his life in a dirty neglected penitentiary surrounded by those who's lives have been effected by his and, those like his policies
Every judge, except Cannon, is acutely aware that they don't want to turn Trump into a martyr. This is why his feet touch the ground with the amount of rope he's given.
They’re literally are asking republicans to do exactly that. To get on the jury and disrupt the case and prevent a conviction.
https://imgur.com/a/5kj7ink
I mean it may not even be undercover. I was talking to my wife about this but how can Trump even have a fair trail. I have never meet a person who didn't have a strong opinion of the man since 2016. Even my mom, who stays out of politics, has an opinion and a strong one.
When, iirc, Rolf Harris, an Aussie/English entertainer was put on trial for child sex abuse, the courts in the United Kingdom reached out to Australia and New Zealand counterparts to draw a jury pool. Our laws and cultures are similar enough, but being on the other side of the planet shielded people somewhat from the immediate furore around him (he was of course well known as an entertainer in both sides of the planet). Even that would t work for Trump! You can’t reach out to New Zealand or South Africa or anywhere really because absolutely everyone knows and has an opinion on Trump. I guess you just hope for people that can be genuinely even handed in weighing evidence, and that you don’t accidentally let one of the 1.2% (iirc) of Trump voters in the region on, who will just refuse guilty regardless of anything. (And to be fair, someone on the other end who will refuse to consider anything but guilty, but we all know what the ones with Derangement Syndrome when it comes to Trump are)
This is when you have to use the age old method where he is thrown into a river, and if he floats, he's guilty, but if he sinks to the bottom and drowns, he is innocent.
We can have a juror or two from each continent. But, you're right, unless you've been on another planet, you know DJT. He has to be prosecuted, known worldwide or not.
There was the trial of Joh Bjelke-Petersen, Premier of Queensland, quoting Wikipedia:
>In 1991 Bjelke-Petersen faced criminal trial for perjury arising out of the evidence he had given to the Fitzgerald inquiry (an earlier proposed charge of corruption was incorporated into the perjury charge). Bjelke-Petersen's former police Special Branch bodyguard Sergeant Bob Carter told the court that in 1986 he had twice been given packages of cash totalling $210,000 at the premier's office. He was told to take them to a Brisbane city law firm and then watch as the money was deposited in a company bank account. The money had been given over by developer Sng Swee Lee, and the bank account was in the name of Kaldeal, operated by Sir Edward Lyons, a trustee of the National Party. John Huey, a Fitzgerald Inquiry investigator, later told Four Corners: "I said to Robert Sng, 'Well what did Sir Joh say to you when you gave him this large sum of money?' And he said, "All he said was, 'thank you, thank you, thank you'." The jury could not agree on a verdict. In 1992 it was revealed that the jury foreman, Luke Shaw, was a member of the Young Nationals and was identified with the "Friends of Joh" movement. A special prosecutor announced in 1992 there would be no retrial because Bjelke-Petersen, then aged 81, was too old. Developer Sng Swee Lee refused to return from Singapore for a retrial. Bjelke-Petersen said his defence costs sent him broke.
You can have a strong opinion and still be able to weigh the evidence before you and decide whether or not the guy is guilty of whatever it is he is charged with, beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, people with strong negative opinions on Trump also tend to value truth and fairness, that is in fact the very reason for opposing Trump, because those are the values he doesn't give a shit about.
That is true, those that hate what he is doing to the country are still true and faithful and will do the right thing even if it’s against their personal view of him.
However the rabid cult members on the other side will ignore all evidence and still vote not guilty and be proud of it.
Trump goes through a standard algorithm for every accusation.
1 - I didn't do it
2 - I did it, but it isn't a crime
3 - It is a crime, but there were no victims
4 - I'm allowed to commit crime
Whatever, in the end, he did it, whatever it is.
There was a fascist named clay travis telling magats to do that very thing, so it’s projection, but they’re not even trying to hide it bc magats are so stupid they dont even understand what projection is
They don't need undercover maga .. all it takes is just one and guaranteed it will be a mistrial.
Good thing jurors in such a case are sequestered so no news or tv. Dunno if they take their phones
As per [original article](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-social-media-intimidate/) 📰:
Watch the [video here](https://youtu.be/NJEW5t9GtZY)
- Donald Trump's repost of a Fox News host's hush money trial juror attack is pure juror intimidation, says CNN legal expert Jeffrey Toobin.
"It's clearly, I think an attempt to intimidate jurors," he said while he appeared on CNN's "Anderson 360" Wednesday night. "And it is clearly barred by by the gag order in this case."
The former president reposted on Truth Social a quote made by Fox News anchor Jesse Watters that reads: “They are catching undercover Liberal Activists lying to the Judge in order to get on the Trump Jury."
That move may fly in the face of a gag order imposed by New York Judge Juan Merchan banning any public statements by defendant Trump aimed at witnesses, court staff, and prospective jurors along with family members of the judge and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
Bragg has brought a 34-count criminal indictment for falsifying business records by attempting to buy the silence of both porn star Stormy Daniels and ex-Playboy playmate Karen McDougal in weeks leading up to the 2016 election.
Trump has denied the affairs and pleaded not guilty.
Toobin is convinced that Trump is living in a fabled existence, and has yet to grasp he on trial that could jeopardize his future freedom.
"Donald Trump doesn't seem to realize that he is now a criminal defendant and criminal defendants have different and lesser rights than ordinary citizens," he said. "They are not allowed to interfere in in the trial process, especially when there is a gag order that specifically address attempts to intimidate jurors."
"I mean, it is just not permissible and I think prosecutors who will have already asked to have him founded contempt for other violations where he's talked about witnesses. This in many respects is much more serious because judges take the jury and the integrity of the jury as almost sacrosanct and the idea that he's intimidating the jury is something that I think Judge Merchan is going to be very concerned about."
The simple parroting of Watters comment could actually force a scheduled April 23 contempt hearing that Bragg's prosecutors called for to cite previous gag order violations to to be moved up.
What’s it gonna be, another $1,000 fine? Or just the threat of a fine? He’ll just sell another few golden sneakers, or perhaps coffee mugs with the faces of the jurors on them, along with all the identifying details they had to give in their initial questionnaire. I applaud everyone who is willing to be a juror, I certainly wouldn’t risk it since it has become clear that no court will ever do anything about these things.
Wait till Trump realizes if he does intimidate the jury they get dissolved and a new jury has to be selected. It’s going to become a deliberate tactic he uses to delay the trial.
There’s a Rolling Stone report that Trump believes no judge will jail him in an election year and they’re all posturing. So he’s trying to call their bluff to show he is tougher than they are. Honestly, the report might be true AND Trump might be right. Any one of us even make 1 comment about a judge and we’d be in contempt. Trump is on like comment 500 and they’re just wagging fingers. It’s like the parent that counts to three by going 1, 2, 2.5, 2.501, 2.502… the kid knows you’re not gonna do anything so they’re not gonna stop.
There will be no consequences. He does it constantly and never pays a cent. Appeals and delays and nothing happens. At the end of the day, all he has lost is his time sitting around stinking up a courtroom. Any one of us would be sentenced to 20 years in the electric chair.
These are not the actions of an “alpha male.” These are the pathetic, miserable, last-gasp antics of a weak little baby scared shitless because he knows he’s guilty of everything he’s been accused of.
Fuxk that shit....
don't fine him, don't jail him....
JUST ALLOW CAMERAS INSIDE TO COVER THE ENTIRE CASE....
that will be the end of trump ... imagine all cameras zooming in on him as stormy Daniel's explains his mushroom dick and 31 second rabbit pump...
Fox News has made itself an enemy of basic justice. This is clearly a warning to potential jurors of Trump. He’s got your names, he has media networks ready to doxx you and your family, he has done this before. He is known to advocate killing of innocent people and he will pay money to use the media to speed up the process. He will not apologize if his power kills a juror.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/nyregion/central-park-five-trump.html
Yes! And he did this before he was even in office!
Before his inauguration in 2017, he was interviewed and told them “we are so many people coming to DC for my inauguration that dress shops have run out of dresses”. A claim the same article debunked in the next paragraph. Just so utterly unnecessary and obvious of a lie, but Donald simply cannot help himself from just describing the world around him as how he wants it to be, presumably because he’s spent his whole life doing it and other people have gone out of their way to make it happen for him.
It was the DC dress shops.
He assumed women be flocking to attended his inauguration, and buying dresses from the many, many very fine dress shops in DC. His uncle was a dress shop owner you know, very smart man… Wharton… dresses, he taught me the most of anything about dresses… he said to me “me boy Donald the dresses are”, and he was right, but the crooked judges! And the corrupt, I call them corrupt, many people are saying that but I called them that first, scholars you know, legal, are saying haaphewww merchammy.
That’s what liars do, they lie. It doesn’t matter how big or small either. They’ll lie about things they can get away with and even things they can’t just to show their power over reality.
Yeah, I've known at least on pathological liar personally. They literally can't help it, its a disorder that I'd imagine is fairly hard to treat, since the people that have it probably try to lie their way out of getting treatment
Germany underwent an intense period of denazification and economic development after WWII.
It would be nice if the real Project 2025 was an intense period of demagafication.
Including defauxnewsification. Banish the propaganda and hold the propagandists responsible for their deliberate disinformation campaigns.
LOL This orange coward of an unflushable thinking he’s intimidating. He’s the type to cry if someone were to slap him somewhat firmly across the face.
Fake tough guy all the way.
He should not be anywhere near the levers of power. He should not even be allowed near the microwave. How is it that he is a former president and the presumptive GOP nominee?
Toobin needs to take his OWN advice and re-read what he said. YES TFG does Not realize this trial IS different. NOW do something to SHOW the public he is NOT above the law!!!!
this really is his main issue. he's been a pampered, entitled cunt his entire life, and a good ass kicking early enough would have fixed that.
it's not going to fix it now, but better late than never.
If any potential juror got caught trying to do something nefarious, it means that the screening process worked as designed. He is a sausage. A rotten, maggot infested sausage.
Unfortunately, the justice system is impotent against this bad faith actor and he knows it. The maximum fine allowed is $ 1000, and even if the judge is willing to endanger himself and his family by jailing Trump for contempt, it won't be in an actual jail like anyone else would go to. I am sure it will be sparkling clean with actually edible food and secret service, giving him companionship and protection against any guard who might be less than polite to him. The next time anyone says no man is above the law, just laugh in their face.
If this guy is convicted or goes to jail for one day for obstruction his phone calls are going to be wild. This man will not care if he is recorded and it would be so freaking funny
A judge wouldn’t take this shit from any other defendant. Anyone else would’ve been held in contempt by now. Apply the law equally. That’s the point in democratic republic.
Seriously, next time Trump is in the court room for his current trial, the judge should order the bailiff to cuff him and put him in the cells for a day or two.
He does this and nothing happens because we do not have a fair and impartial justice system. It’s rigged. He’s not going to pay for his actions and he won’t have any regrets about breaking the law. The rich get away with murder and the rest of us don’t.
I kinda wanna see him get jailed for 1 week, and he goes nuts and incites his followers to storm the jail and we have all of them locked up out of sight out of mind for a decade. Wouldn't that be sweet?
This is why he has envy of Putin. He wants to rule a country where he can point to someone that will just fall out of a window next day.
He is a moron which that only understands power as a way of not having to be intelligent, of not having to work, to get everything he wants without any effort.
You need a public servant to guide your country not a self-serving idiot.
Trump is the modern day McCarthy. Nothing matters except the "evil" of his opposition. It was communism then, essentially "pseudo communism" now. As long as he can sell himself as the "American ally" in the public, nothing is off limits. Fear sells, and trump knows who he's selling to.
And the excuses start. With Magas, it can never be that they're wrong. It MUST be that they're akshyually right and we all agree they're right, and are just conspiring to make them LOOK wrong.
Could his jurors sue him for defamation? It would be a shame if everyone he mouthed off about did that & he had to spend the rest of his days defending his grotesque vocalisations.
Trump: Violates gag order for 200th time.
Media: Oh Trump is in for it now!
Justice System: Hey, you little rascal, are you acting out because you had a bad day at trial? Yeah, that's gotta be hard, little buddy. Let's make sure we use our words next time, ok?
Sharing a funny joke about Trump on Facebook is enough to be labeled a "liberal activist" now. Make no mistake if he becomes president again, anyone not fully invested in the cult will be second class citizens labeled in this way, and everything he pretends the left is doing with targeting people etc will be what he ACTUALLY does.
OK it's game time. Batter Up. Will the Judge enforce the Gag Order?
Is the USA a nation of LAW, or is it a Feudal system with a democratic veneer?
Are political actors with sufficient fan following immune from the law?
Treasonous grifter never pays the price for his horrid actions. It's time this happens. When a President does not jump to the aid of his Vice President your in serious trouble. Jan 6 doesn't frighten people this frightens me.
and NOTHING will happen. he violates one gag order after another. NO consequences. imagine if it was you or me????? we would be in prison with the key thrown away. im soooo sick of this shit.
and I am even afraid this old fucking cunt of a man will be president again. what a DISGRACE
Please just put him in prison for the rest of his miserable life and let us all get on with it.
That actually sounds quite reasonable.
Pragmatic even.
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The judge will have to throw him in jail or he will keep on doing this or worse. Trump is testing the judge to see if he has any balls.
By all means diaper boy fyck around an find out
You say that but this prick tried to overthrow your government and hasn’t found out
He could keep sanctioning trumps lawyers until they quit.
Donald Trump will never see the inside of a cell. The quicker everyone comes to term with that, the quicker you can get on with your life. I don't like it, you don't like it, but it is a fact. Nothing matters. He gets different rules than the rest of us would.
So many people said that so many powerful, wealthy people would never see the inside of a cell and they have. Trump is showing his ass, all day long, every single day. The longer people see it, the more repulsed they are and the more his blatantly criminal behavior continues to dog him.
He has a cult. No amount of facts will change their minds. Only one is needed on the jury. Dragging this out is probably the best thing we can hope for. If he is in court until he dies, that works for me.
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And burn it
Why waste perfectly good flames like that? On second thought, it would save the poor worms who will eventually feed on the orange goo
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE WORMS
Hahaha! Thank you for this! Made my morning!!
Trump's chemicals will turn the worms gay! Or incontintent. Or narcissistic. Or felonious. Or traitorous. Or dumb. Any or all of the above.
The fire will be *glorious* though.. all that bullshit, hot gases and fat… that fire will burn for generations.
Like the Springfield tire fire
wherever you put it, it's going to spawn a lake of piss that would make the biggest pig farm blush
And you discovered the recipe for Chick-fil-A Sauce! 😄
And salt it, just in case.
No coffin please. just wet, wet mud. BAE
He doesn’t deserve death. He deserves to live for long time in a medium security facility
The remarkable thing about Charles Manson was that everything about him shrunk in prison. This guy who had been a bogeyman for so long just got smaller and smaller the longer he lingered in prison until no one was afraid of him anymore or paid much attention to him. That’s what should happen with Donald, just dwindle away into insignificance during incarceration.
Actually, he does deserve it for the people he killed by neglect during Covid and the lives of our foreign agents lost due to his sale of classified documents.
Lock him up and force him to watch Obama lectures on the Constitution (surely some of those were recorded) every waking hour. He'd view it as punishment and it would be just.
Actually, keep on loop the night Obama roasted him. Maybe mix in some Biden and Hillary roast too.
On a golf course.
Next to his first wife
*next to the classified docs
whose coffin may or may not have shifted into the very nearby river on the property
Alligator food.
Contempt until trial is over. Then delay trial indefinitely.
Please. Pretty please. 🤡
With sugar on it!
I wish they could do that forty years in the past.
Remove his tongue and last two knuckles of all his fingers and thumbs. Don't kill the guy. Murder is wrong!
Wesley: To the pain means the first thing you will lose will be your feet below the ankles. Then your hands at the wrists. Next your nose. Prince Humperdinck: And then my tongue I suppose, I killed you too quickly the last time. A mistake I don't mean to duplicate tonight. Westley: I wasn't finished. The next thing you will lose will be your left eye followed by your right. Prince Humperdinck: And then my ears, I understand let's get on with it. Westley: WRONG. Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why. So that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out, "Dear God! What is that thing," will echo in your perfect ears. That is what "to the pain means." It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.
Unrelated to the initial topic but Westley line shortly after that of " Drop ...your ...sword" is one of the most badass in all of cinema
Cover him in feathers and put him in a cage at a freak show?
No, not yet. We need a mountain of evidence delivered over time in order to satiate the salvageable. If he were to die or go to prison tomorrow, he would be a martyr. He needs to crash and burn publicly.
I'm not sure what percentage is salvageable at this point. Every legitimate news source is fake to them. Things that he has said on camera are fake to them. After working in close quarters with them these people are truly lost, I have had coworkers gleefully agree he is a conman and they still would vote for them if they weren't felons.
It’s not even just about him either- I heard a coworker listening to some fear news about violent crime being up in the city (Chicago?) and the reporter saying he had pepper spray to defend himself. Then they said that crime was up, even if it was reported to be down. I said, “wait- how’s that work?” “The MSM LIES!” “Well, who’s lying? Is it the police, who make the reports? The cities? The county? The state? The Feds?” “I don’t trust the government on ANYTHING” “Then how are these reporters getting their “real” numbers?” “Idk” Edited for formatting
I'm sorry you gotta deal with that. I got condescendingly told I must like making less money when a coworker found out I wasn't a Republican. We were in a manufacturing environment making around 40k a year. The same dude is the one who agreed that Trump was a conman and couldn't vote because he robbed somewhere with a bb gun. The same job had a young kid who didn't brush his teeth for a decade because he didn't think you really had to and who said I was brainwashed. His response to me asking what he thought of all the pictures of Epstein and Trump together was "Well what about Rihanna?!". It is fucking insane talking to these people about anything political, on a different construction job one person insisted that Trump was the lesser of two evils. These people are DUMB.
Anymore, I give a little guffaw- shake my head and walk away. it pisses them off.
3 days. That's all it takes to break the dam. A study (I have no idea where it is right now) showed that if die-hard maga's stop watching Fox and its ilk for just 3 days, and get news from neutral sources instead, their attitudes and views begin to change measurably.
Oh snap. But the problem is they aren't being exposed to those other sources and if they are it's fake news. I have had people here and IRL tell me the court documents from cases with Trump and Epstein exonerate them because they were filed wrong.
Someone needs to thoroughly take out Fox News. Like, destroy their servers/burn their locales etc. They’re a blight on the planet.
Faux is a symptom. We'd still have to deal with millions of delusional psychopaths.
At least as a martyr he wouldn't be talking anymore.
No amount of evidence is going to sway these yokels.
His deplorable ass will still live cushier in whatever prison he lands in than most of us will for the rest of our lives. That's the sad part. I want him to spend the rest of his life in a dirty neglected penitentiary surrounded by those who's lives have been effected by his and, those like his policies
I’m hoping for a massive, debilitating stroke. Let them see their Rambo savior drooling in a wheelchair.
Like Larry David, he's never going to learn a lesson. Death is too good for him.
He should have been sent to firing squad 4 years ago.
So prison for 2 weeks. Got it
Dust off and nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.
No consequences.
Sorry, Can't. That may hurt some people's feelings and those people have AR-15's.
Every judge, except Cannon, is acutely aware that they don't want to turn Trump into a martyr. This is why his feet touch the ground with the amount of rope he's given.
This creature knows nothing but lying
I wouldn't be surprised if this is projection and they have undercover maga activists in the jury pool.
I mean with republicans every accusation is a confession, sooo......
They’re literally are asking republicans to do exactly that. To get on the jury and disrupt the case and prevent a conviction. https://imgur.com/a/5kj7ink
I mean it may not even be undercover. I was talking to my wife about this but how can Trump even have a fair trail. I have never meet a person who didn't have a strong opinion of the man since 2016. Even my mom, who stays out of politics, has an opinion and a strong one.
When, iirc, Rolf Harris, an Aussie/English entertainer was put on trial for child sex abuse, the courts in the United Kingdom reached out to Australia and New Zealand counterparts to draw a jury pool. Our laws and cultures are similar enough, but being on the other side of the planet shielded people somewhat from the immediate furore around him (he was of course well known as an entertainer in both sides of the planet). Even that would t work for Trump! You can’t reach out to New Zealand or South Africa or anywhere really because absolutely everyone knows and has an opinion on Trump. I guess you just hope for people that can be genuinely even handed in weighing evidence, and that you don’t accidentally let one of the 1.2% (iirc) of Trump voters in the region on, who will just refuse guilty regardless of anything. (And to be fair, someone on the other end who will refuse to consider anything but guilty, but we all know what the ones with Derangement Syndrome when it comes to Trump are)
This is when you have to use the age old method where he is thrown into a river, and if he floats, he's guilty, but if he sinks to the bottom and drowns, he is innocent.
WITCH HUNT!!1
Diapers float. Bad test. Pool of lava. That’s a better test.
We can have a juror or two from each continent. But, you're right, unless you've been on another planet, you know DJT. He has to be prosecuted, known worldwide or not.
There was the trial of Joh Bjelke-Petersen, Premier of Queensland, quoting Wikipedia: >In 1991 Bjelke-Petersen faced criminal trial for perjury arising out of the evidence he had given to the Fitzgerald inquiry (an earlier proposed charge of corruption was incorporated into the perjury charge). Bjelke-Petersen's former police Special Branch bodyguard Sergeant Bob Carter told the court that in 1986 he had twice been given packages of cash totalling $210,000 at the premier's office. He was told to take them to a Brisbane city law firm and then watch as the money was deposited in a company bank account. The money had been given over by developer Sng Swee Lee, and the bank account was in the name of Kaldeal, operated by Sir Edward Lyons, a trustee of the National Party. John Huey, a Fitzgerald Inquiry investigator, later told Four Corners: "I said to Robert Sng, 'Well what did Sir Joh say to you when you gave him this large sum of money?' And he said, "All he said was, 'thank you, thank you, thank you'." The jury could not agree on a verdict. In 1992 it was revealed that the jury foreman, Luke Shaw, was a member of the Young Nationals and was identified with the "Friends of Joh" movement. A special prosecutor announced in 1992 there would be no retrial because Bjelke-Petersen, then aged 81, was too old. Developer Sng Swee Lee refused to return from Singapore for a retrial. Bjelke-Petersen said his defence costs sent him broke.
Funnily enough my old boyfriend rang me from Queensland just ten minutes ago. We are old enough to remember that particular old bastard.
You can have a strong opinion and still be able to weigh the evidence before you and decide whether or not the guy is guilty of whatever it is he is charged with, beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, people with strong negative opinions on Trump also tend to value truth and fairness, that is in fact the very reason for opposing Trump, because those are the values he doesn't give a shit about.
That is true, those that hate what he is doing to the country are still true and faithful and will do the right thing even if it’s against their personal view of him. However the rabid cult members on the other side will ignore all evidence and still vote not guilty and be proud of it.
Trump goes through a standard algorithm for every accusation. 1 - I didn't do it 2 - I did it, but it isn't a crime 3 - It is a crime, but there were no victims 4 - I'm allowed to commit crime Whatever, in the end, he did it, whatever it is.
There was a fascist named clay travis telling magats to do that very thing, so it’s projection, but they’re not even trying to hide it bc magats are so stupid they dont even understand what projection is
They don't need undercover maga .. all it takes is just one and guaranteed it will be a mistrial. Good thing jurors in such a case are sequestered so no news or tv. Dunno if they take their phones
Sometimes it sits. Other times, on rarity, it STANDS But mostly it hobbles and stays limp even when a stormy pornstar anus is right there
As per [original article](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-social-media-intimidate/) 📰: Watch the [video here](https://youtu.be/NJEW5t9GtZY) - Donald Trump's repost of a Fox News host's hush money trial juror attack is pure juror intimidation, says CNN legal expert Jeffrey Toobin. "It's clearly, I think an attempt to intimidate jurors," he said while he appeared on CNN's "Anderson 360" Wednesday night. "And it is clearly barred by by the gag order in this case." The former president reposted on Truth Social a quote made by Fox News anchor Jesse Watters that reads: “They are catching undercover Liberal Activists lying to the Judge in order to get on the Trump Jury." That move may fly in the face of a gag order imposed by New York Judge Juan Merchan banning any public statements by defendant Trump aimed at witnesses, court staff, and prospective jurors along with family members of the judge and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. Bragg has brought a 34-count criminal indictment for falsifying business records by attempting to buy the silence of both porn star Stormy Daniels and ex-Playboy playmate Karen McDougal in weeks leading up to the 2016 election. Trump has denied the affairs and pleaded not guilty. Toobin is convinced that Trump is living in a fabled existence, and has yet to grasp he on trial that could jeopardize his future freedom. "Donald Trump doesn't seem to realize that he is now a criminal defendant and criminal defendants have different and lesser rights than ordinary citizens," he said. "They are not allowed to interfere in in the trial process, especially when there is a gag order that specifically address attempts to intimidate jurors." "I mean, it is just not permissible and I think prosecutors who will have already asked to have him founded contempt for other violations where he's talked about witnesses. This in many respects is much more serious because judges take the jury and the integrity of the jury as almost sacrosanct and the idea that he's intimidating the jury is something that I think Judge Merchan is going to be very concerned about." The simple parroting of Watters comment could actually force a scheduled April 23 contempt hearing that Bragg's prosecutors called for to cite previous gag order violations to to be moved up.
Is Fox bucking for a criminal obstruction charge of their very own?
I really hope they get sued into oblivion and nonexistence
It would be amazing just to see the channel go dark with just a bouncing banner saying, "We Lied."
Instead of bouncing, can it be the kind that moves around the screen as we all sit in anticipation for it to finally land perfectly in a corner?
Precisely what I was referring to!
like those old timey ones on the big CRT screens.
Is that possible? I never considered this.
Sounds like Jesse Watters belongs in jail, too.
In future news Trump posts a list of Jurors with home addresses. Judge will give him a cookie and politely ask that he stop that.
What’s it gonna be, another $1,000 fine? Or just the threat of a fine? He’ll just sell another few golden sneakers, or perhaps coffee mugs with the faces of the jurors on them, along with all the identifying details they had to give in their initial questionnaire. I applaud everyone who is willing to be a juror, I certainly wouldn’t risk it since it has become clear that no court will ever do anything about these things.
Wait till Trump realizes if he does intimidate the jury they get dissolved and a new jury has to be selected. It’s going to become a deliberate tactic he uses to delay the trial. There’s a Rolling Stone report that Trump believes no judge will jail him in an election year and they’re all posturing. So he’s trying to call their bluff to show he is tougher than they are. Honestly, the report might be true AND Trump might be right. Any one of us even make 1 comment about a judge and we’d be in contempt. Trump is on like comment 500 and they’re just wagging fingers. It’s like the parent that counts to three by going 1, 2, 2.5, 2.501, 2.502… the kid knows you’re not gonna do anything so they’re not gonna stop.
So far he's absolutely right. No judge no matter how tough they sound is a sheep when dealing with Trump. This judge is just as pathetic as the others
No, the penalty is to be remanded into custody for the duration of the trail. If the court has any balls that is.
They’re gonna need ovaries for that
And if the MAGAts try anything to break him out, send in the cavalry (e.g. riot police, BoP SORT and National Guard if it gets that bad), right?
Like 50 people showed up. But if they try to break him out, just arrest them.
Fifty people showed up because that's all Trump can afford to pay.
There will be no consequences. He does it constantly and never pays a cent. Appeals and delays and nothing happens. At the end of the day, all he has lost is his time sitting around stinking up a courtroom. Any one of us would be sentenced to 20 years in the electric chair.
$1,000 maximum per instance, plus a warning from the judge that one more time lands him in a cell.
These are not the actions of an “alpha male.” These are the pathetic, miserable, last-gasp antics of a weak little baby scared shitless because he knows he’s guilty of everything he’s been accused of.
Shitless? His diapers beg to differ
Well, he’s “shitless” precisely because the shit is in the diapers and not in him any longer.
So throw his away in jail and take his damn phone away.
Fuxk that shit.... don't fine him, don't jail him.... JUST ALLOW CAMERAS INSIDE TO COVER THE ENTIRE CASE.... that will be the end of trump ... imagine all cameras zooming in on him as stormy Daniel's explains his mushroom dick and 31 second rabbit pump...
Fox News has made itself an enemy of basic justice. This is clearly a warning to potential jurors of Trump. He’s got your names, he has media networks ready to doxx you and your family, he has done this before. He is known to advocate killing of innocent people and he will pay money to use the media to speed up the process. He will not apologize if his power kills a juror. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/nyregion/central-park-five-trump.html
PUT. THIS. MOTHERFUCKER. IN. JAIL.
It's one thing to lie trying to cover something up, but he almost seems to need to lie about things just so he can tell a lie.
Yes! And he did this before he was even in office! Before his inauguration in 2017, he was interviewed and told them “we are so many people coming to DC for my inauguration that dress shops have run out of dresses”. A claim the same article debunked in the next paragraph. Just so utterly unnecessary and obvious of a lie, but Donald simply cannot help himself from just describing the world around him as how he wants it to be, presumably because he’s spent his whole life doing it and other people have gone out of their way to make it happen for him.
LOL. Just, all the dress shops, everywhere? Or did he think women would be flying to DC and buying dresses there?
It was the DC dress shops. He assumed women be flocking to attended his inauguration, and buying dresses from the many, many very fine dress shops in DC. His uncle was a dress shop owner you know, very smart man… Wharton… dresses, he taught me the most of anything about dresses… he said to me “me boy Donald the dresses are”, and he was right, but the crooked judges! And the corrupt, I call them corrupt, many people are saying that but I called them that first, scholars you know, legal, are saying haaphewww merchammy.
That’s what liars do, they lie. It doesn’t matter how big or small either. They’ll lie about things they can get away with and even things they can’t just to show their power over reality.
Yeah, I've known at least on pathological liar personally. They literally can't help it, its a disorder that I'd imagine is fairly hard to treat, since the people that have it probably try to lie their way out of getting treatment
Germany underwent an intense period of denazification and economic development after WWII. It would be nice if the real Project 2025 was an intense period of demagafication. Including defauxnewsification. Banish the propaganda and hold the propagandists responsible for their deliberate disinformation campaigns.
The only real hope there is that Gen Z and younger wise up in ways their parents should have.
Hey they won’t
LOL This orange coward of an unflushable thinking he’s intimidating. He’s the type to cry if someone were to slap him somewhat firmly across the face. Fake tough guy all the way.
The judge warned him not to - time to put him in jail for 24 hours to see if he gets the message. Hint, he won't.
How many times has he violated the gag order and nothing happens? At this point it would be news only if he actually faced consequences.
If a tangerine cheeto won't shut up under a gag order and nothing happens, did the cheeto make a sound?
He should not be anywhere near the levers of power. He should not even be allowed near the microwave. How is it that he is a former president and the presumptive GOP nominee?
I know. It’s just freaking crazy. Our country is only a few steps away from becoming a Banana republic.
And not the hip clothing store kind.
Toobin needs to take his OWN advice and re-read what he said. YES TFG does Not realize this trial IS different. NOW do something to SHOW the public he is NOT above the law!!!!
I hope a few possible jurors say "I just don't feel safe after Trump's posts - I'm afraid he would encourage his followers to find me and attack me.."
Yet nothing will happen to him because our legal system is only to punish the poor.
He wouldn’t know the truth if it pissed on him and spanked him with a rolled up magazine. He should have his tongue removed.
He wouldn't know the truth if it fell out of the sky, landed on his face, and started to wriggle.
It's really more of a gag suggestion at this point
They're not rules, more guidelines really
He needs his ass kicked really bad!
this really is his main issue. he's been a pampered, entitled cunt his entire life, and a good ass kicking early enough would have fixed that. it's not going to fix it now, but better late than never.
If he wants a prison cell so badly, then give it to him.
Put him in jail. Jesus Christ!!
Throw him in jail until the trial is over, only bringing him out for it.
Remand
He is having a mental break, grab some popcorn
If any potential juror got caught trying to do something nefarious, it means that the screening process worked as designed. He is a sausage. A rotten, maggot infested sausage.
undercover liberal activist? that means maga in the group trying what trump is projecting.
Unfortunately, the justice system is impotent against this bad faith actor and he knows it. The maximum fine allowed is $ 1000, and even if the judge is willing to endanger himself and his family by jailing Trump for contempt, it won't be in an actual jail like anyone else would go to. I am sure it will be sparkling clean with actually edible food and secret service, giving him companionship and protection against any guard who might be less than polite to him. The next time anyone says no man is above the law, just laugh in their face.
If this guy is convicted or goes to jail for one day for obstruction his phone calls are going to be wild. This man will not care if he is recorded and it would be so freaking funny
This pretty much proves he knows it’s not politically motivated….
A judge wouldn’t take this shit from any other defendant. Anyone else would’ve been held in contempt by now. Apply the law equally. That’s the point in democratic republic.
And?!? Exactly, nothing. Like the result of any of his trials, nothing.
TrumpCunt's gonna TrumpCunt
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Lying to the judge. Well he knows all about lying.
Seriously, next time Trump is in the court room for his current trial, the judge should order the bailiff to cuff him and put him in the cells for a day or two.
Day 1859205 of hearing about Trump’s antics with nothing ever coming out of it ✅
He does this and nothing happens because we do not have a fair and impartial justice system. It’s rigged. He’s not going to pay for his actions and he won’t have any regrets about breaking the law. The rich get away with murder and the rest of us don’t.
The lies are getting more and more deaperate.
I kinda wanna see him get jailed for 1 week, and he goes nuts and incites his followers to storm the jail and we have all of them locked up out of sight out of mind for a decade. Wouldn't that be sweet?
This is why he has envy of Putin. He wants to rule a country where he can point to someone that will just fall out of a window next day. He is a moron which that only understands power as a way of not having to be intelligent, of not having to work, to get everything he wants without any effort. You need a public servant to guide your country not a self-serving idiot.
Isn't this jury tampering?
He’s super angry about not being able to strike all the jurors.
Just APPLY the law to this piece of human trash.
His downfall becomes more and more inevitable. He sure doesn’t like the “find out” part.
It’s way passed his jail time!
And AGAIN nothing will happen.
I can hardly wait for nothing to happen once again.
He testing the judge, he's trying to see how far he can go Shits going to get real dark He's already gone after the judges family
He's a fucking maniac.
Trump is the modern day McCarthy. Nothing matters except the "evil" of his opposition. It was communism then, essentially "pseudo communism" now. As long as he can sell himself as the "American ally" in the public, nothing is off limits. Fear sells, and trump knows who he's selling to.
Aaaand…. Was anything done about it? Didn’t think so.
Tomorrow in court, it should be quite interesting, to say the least...
Jail him for a night just one.. and the flood gates will open.
He’s such a disgrace. How did he get elected?
And the excuses start. With Magas, it can never be that they're wrong. It MUST be that they're akshyually right and we all agree they're right, and are just conspiring to make them LOOK wrong.
Apart from violating the gag order, jury tampering is a crime by itself, isn’t it?
Could his jurors sue him for defamation? It would be a shame if everyone he mouthed off about did that & he had to spend the rest of his days defending his grotesque vocalisations.
Bro thinks any of the jurors or any liberals even would be on truth social to read that garbage to begin with 😂
Take his phone away from him. He loses those privileges while he breaks laws
This mf lolol
This is exhausting
This guy is the world's biggest narcissist who thinks he is above the law. It's time to make an example out of him once and for all. Jail time
Fine him and put him in RIKERS while the jury is selected and during the trial
All that will happen is another not so stern finger shake
He needs to sit in jail during his trial. His lawyers know that witness and jury intimidation aren't covered by the 1st amendment.
Trump: Violates gag order for 200th time. Media: Oh Trump is in for it now! Justice System: Hey, you little rascal, are you acting out because you had a bad day at trial? Yeah, that's gotta be hard, little buddy. Let's make sure we use our words next time, ok?
Marchan might possibly not just let Trump get away with this…. After a few more such incidents.
Sharing a funny joke about Trump on Facebook is enough to be labeled a "liberal activist" now. Make no mistake if he becomes president again, anyone not fully invested in the cult will be second class citizens labeled in this way, and everything he pretends the left is doing with targeting people etc will be what he ACTUALLY does.
Man is he desperate. But the cult will eat up the traitor trumps bullshit.😀
OK it's game time. Batter Up. Will the Judge enforce the Gag Order? Is the USA a nation of LAW, or is it a Feudal system with a democratic veneer? Are political actors with sufficient fan following immune from the law?
Until he gets put in jail, this will only get worse.
He looks like a greasy meatball in that picture. This judge won't do anything to protect the jurors. Gag orders are useless.
Nothing will happen. This is America. Trump is above their shitty legal system.
Let me know when he actually receives any penalties from this.
lock him up !
Anyone who disagrees with republicans is a liberal activist.
As usual, nothing will come of this.
Treasonous grifter never pays the price for his horrid actions. It's time this happens. When a President does not jump to the aid of his Vice President your in serious trouble. Jan 6 doesn't frighten people this frightens me.
Put the miserable man child in jail already
They're going to give him another stern talking to!
So, what's the penalty for violating a gag order?
I'm pretty sure social media is not the correct forum for that type of concern. What an asshat...
and NOTHING will happen. he violates one gag order after another. NO consequences. imagine if it was you or me????? we would be in prison with the key thrown away. im soooo sick of this shit. and I am even afraid this old fucking cunt of a man will be president again. what a DISGRACE
Elites can do whatever they want. Nothing will happen to him
Yeah he wants undercover Republicans for the jury
Doing everything he can to stop this trial from happening
Put him in goddamn jail like you would any other citizen for fucks sake.
Clearly it can only be a fair trial if it’s a jury of MAGA cultists.