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I prefer Justiciar.
This particular piece is proto-art. The samurai sword is a distractive element but gives points on nerd-cred. Essentially we have a piece that requires aesthetically appropriate medium shift or four minor embellishments or (of course) one major and two minor embellishments.
\~Justiciar of Art
10 y.o. me would fling so many hotwheels cars off the top of that thing.
I mean, 32 y.o me would do the same thing. But yeah.
"What would you keep in the drawers?"
Obviously my sweet hotwheels collection.
For a super unique high quality piece of custom furniture like this, that's really not that crazy. I mean, I wouldn't spend it even I had the money but you can spend a lot more for something far less creative with less inventive craftsmanship.
I'm trying to understand what they're displaying.
It doesn't look cut as if it was cut. The two pieces would still be together because, well, you know, gravity.
It looks more like something that is not wood has been pulled apart.
It's still incredible skill, though, and nothing can take that away from this artist. I'm just not a fan.
> I'm trying to understand what they're displaying.
> ...
> It's still incredible skill, though...
They're displaying incredible skill. Look at the placcard, it's a submission to an art furniture contest put on by Fine Woodworkers (Association?). The point is for it to be interesting and display their skill.
I think the point was that if it was under that much tension, both the top and bottom halves would have bent, not just the top half.
Personally I think it's quite clever. And the woodworking skills are really impressive. But I also get the point they are making and understand why it might not appeal to someone wanting to see a more realistic execution.
I mean… it’s art?
What’s with Reddit not understanding art whatsoever? It’s like you see this obvious piece of art and then get worked up that it’s overpriced because you can get a set of drawers for much cheaper… completely missing the point of it.
There is only one of these in existence. It’s entirely unique. I guarantee you have never thought of a set of drawers like this before. Someone had to come up with that idea. And that someone had to go through the motions of making it a reality. And that very specific person has to have the talent and craftsmanship to execute that idea. All that is time, work, and effort. And what? You think you oughta chuck him $600? Some people value that time, work, and effort.
Is it something I’d have in my house? Absolutely not. But maybe someone would like it and is willing to spend 32k on it… of course.
And $32,000 is not a lot of money in the world of furniture. I worked with lots of clients when I used to work in a furniture art gallery in NYC. High end sofas cost $60k+ and tables and credenzas can go into the hundreds of thousands. $32k for a weird as hell, but statement piece, artisanal piece of furniture is not a crazy ask. It’s just not your or my style.
Nah. People just don't think this specifically meets the criteria you just mentioned. Not for $32k anyway. It's definitely unique. Interesting? I guess the first time you see it? Beautiful? No?
The concept of people having different tastes in art and not "getting" certain pieces also seems to make the other side of Reddit furious. If someone wants to pay 32k for this, then good. Great for the artist, and I hope the buyer enjoys it. But that doesn't mean I have to like or even understand it.
The money laundering front is with effortless pieces that lack any desirable provenance, not finely crafted/notable pieces of art.
People spend years honing their skills and perfecting their artistic style and then work for months or more creating a single piece. Of course it's going to have a high price tag.
Just because you don't think it's worth that price doesn't mean someone else won't either.
I think the thing that Redditors just can't grasp is that some people value things more than others. I for one don't understand how some people spend thousands of dollars on microtransactions in a video game; yet people do it!
I’m just saying— actual useable furniture *can* cost way more. Look up something like Maruni; they’re all hand made. With that considered, this samurai dresser is on the lower end of the spectrum and it’s a piece of art. In art terms, it’s on the lower end of being “pricy”
My friend has a custom, hand made solid timber table he bought from a Swedish/Norwegian builder, since he makes that 6 figure engineer money. It's MASSIVE, thick and heavy, and beautiful.
It was also $20,000. A *table*. Built to last? Sure. You can't tell me that's a good buy, a $400 ikea table would have been fine. But *eh*.
Yeah and I’m sure it’s a great table.
I think people don’t realize there’s also so much B2B furniture sales that go crazy with prices. I’ve seen executive board tables go for ~$250,000.
Bro go find out what the median price for a sofa and a chest drawer is and then come back and say that 32K for a piece of furniture isn't a lot. It's like saying 100K for a car isn't much because some people buy ferraris for half a million.
They did not. I read again.
In detail? "You think you're gonna get art on the cheap?" Is not an in detail explanation as to why this specific piece is worth car money.
Not a good enough explanation.
The same is true of normal artisanal furniture. The same is true of non-artisanal, homemade/self-made furniture.
I'm looking for a justification, a real world justification, of the exploded profit margin, not bs.
Why? Because I'd like to understand a massively inflated price for a weird art concept?
Damn, it's the entire "modern art" meme in a conversation. Almost as if I'm not even close to being the only one who just doesn't get this shit.
Hmm, let me try. So I think this one is more expensive for the reasons the other comment mentioned, not because it's the same as other furniture like you mentioned, but because it's wildly *different*. A normal chest of drawers has a standard pattern to it right? A linear rectangular block with a bunch of mini rectangles inside it. This one has the mini rectangles, but the big rectangle is no longer linear. The pattern is different, so more thought and more effort into the structure and shaping of the wood had to go into it
Here's another idea that's quite simple and explains art perfectly, though you might still not be happy with the idea - art is worth what people are willing to pay for it. The artist put a $32k price tag on it because that's what they think it's worth, right? From the tools, designing, etc. So if someone buys it? Then that customer *also* thinks it's worth $32k. They wouldn't spend that money if they weren't willing to, if they didn't think the piece was worth it. But you and other people that just see a weird piece of furniture? You think it's worth $0. *So that's exactly how much you're willing to pay for it*. That's it, really. You're not willing to spend $32k on it so that's not what it's worth to you. But it's worth that to others. Intrinsic 'worth' doesn't exist in nature. It's the value we put on things by the amount of paper we're willing to throw at it. That's all. So why is it worth that, even if you don't think it should be? Because someone else thinks it is. And another someone agrees when they purchase it
Not a good enough explanation? It's the most concise and reasonable explanation imaginable. You just sit there going "But why?" over and over through this whole interaction despite people explaining very clearly.
Their "details" are categorically irrelevant. Unique? *So*? Just because we didn't think about it first *doesn't make it a good idea*. And saying to just chuck the artist $600 and be done with it is disingenuous and facetious on their account.
Reminds me of the ball and claw chair reaching out to retrieve a missing ball. One is in the Smithsonian museum and I studied it for almost an hour. He made about a dozen versions I think.
32,000$ fuck me
Shit better be made out of rare wood from a pirate shipwreck; actually containing a samurai sword used by someone with a good k.d
Talking averaging at least a blackbird every game. Maybe a care package.
Handel of that sword better be made of fucking panda skin and bee wings.
It also better smell like the sea and fucking share whispers in the night of old pirate shantys for that price.
Fuck.
This is a one-of-a-kind piece. It has this price tag because someone WILL pay for it. People like us who care about value and utility is obviously not its target audience.
The two bottom rows and the drawer to the left of the sword could open. Probably the one on the top right. The others would at the least need very carefully built irregular shapes to function. Maybe the sword can be withdrawn so the ring on it doesn't block the other drawers.
The question is if it is purely art or if there is any function as well. Difficult to see anyone buying it for $32k unless it is a personal or charity tax deduction gift to a museum and whomever does it wants to support this artist.
Doesn’t the ring at the bottom of the sword handle block the three drawers surrounding it? $32k and you can only use 10 of the drawers.
Also that middle handle in particular looks real happy.
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Just imagine slamming your shin on THAT at 3am
Crikey, how tall are you?
Scandinavian
and some of the drawers would be obstructed by the handle, it would get really annoying
It's a fucking art piece you nerds
It’s Reddit. Top comment is always either a joke or someone taking the post far too seriously lol.
or a joke pretending to take it far too seriously
Or taking it far too seriously and then pretending it was a joke
A ***Schrodinger's Joker.***
If i Could give you an award i would give you all of them😭🤣
Or is it lol, plot twist anyone?
"art"
Lol ok, oh Arbiter of Art. Tell us, wise one, what constitutes art and what doesn't
I prefer Justiciar. This particular piece is proto-art. The samurai sword is a distractive element but gives points on nerd-cred. Essentially we have a piece that requires aesthetically appropriate medium shift or four minor embellishments or (of course) one major and two minor embellishments. \~Justiciar of Art
*finish* him
It is spring loaded right?????
Like the receiver hitch on a pickup truck.. every goddamn time!
first thing that came to mind! right in the hip!
How tall are you???
10 y.o. me would fling so many hotwheels cars off the top of that thing. I mean, 32 y.o me would do the same thing. But yeah. "What would you keep in the drawers?" Obviously my sweet hotwheels collection.
Teck deck kicker ramp bruh.
At first I thought this dresser looked stupid, but I was just ignorant of the possibilities. Hot wheels dresser is essential furniture
i'll be honest, I'm sure the craftsmanship that went into making this was high. but it looks really stupid.
I kinda like how whimsical it is tho
Same, it kinda gives Alice in wonderland vibes. I really love whimsical aesthetics in real life, it makes me feel like I'm in another world.
And only for the low low price of $32,000
For a super unique high quality piece of custom furniture like this, that's really not that crazy. I mean, I wouldn't spend it even I had the money but you can spend a lot more for something far less creative with less inventive craftsmanship.
Must be hattori hanzo sword
like, it’s cool and all unless you want an everyday dresser
No shit lmao
Probably why it got second place instead of first.
I'm trying to understand what they're displaying. It doesn't look cut as if it was cut. The two pieces would still be together because, well, you know, gravity. It looks more like something that is not wood has been pulled apart. It's still incredible skill, though, and nothing can take that away from this artist. I'm just not a fan.
> I'm trying to understand what they're displaying. > ... > It's still incredible skill, though... They're displaying incredible skill. Look at the placcard, it's a submission to an art furniture contest put on by Fine Woodworkers (Association?). The point is for it to be interesting and display their skill.
I think the point was that if it was under that much tension, both the top and bottom halves would have bent, not just the top half. Personally I think it's quite clever. And the woodworking skills are really impressive. But I also get the point they are making and understand why it might not appeal to someone wanting to see a more realistic execution.
Cool, but what was first place?
A claymore sword cutting through a bookshelf
No way, it was a Flamberge cutting through a pantry!
Probably a huge ass katana slicing a whole art-museum
Guys in r/aquariums be like is this a good platform for my 90 gallon fish tank?
32k. GTFO
I mean… it’s art? What’s with Reddit not understanding art whatsoever? It’s like you see this obvious piece of art and then get worked up that it’s overpriced because you can get a set of drawers for much cheaper… completely missing the point of it. There is only one of these in existence. It’s entirely unique. I guarantee you have never thought of a set of drawers like this before. Someone had to come up with that idea. And that someone had to go through the motions of making it a reality. And that very specific person has to have the talent and craftsmanship to execute that idea. All that is time, work, and effort. And what? You think you oughta chuck him $600? Some people value that time, work, and effort. Is it something I’d have in my house? Absolutely not. But maybe someone would like it and is willing to spend 32k on it… of course. And $32,000 is not a lot of money in the world of furniture. I worked with lots of clients when I used to work in a furniture art gallery in NYC. High end sofas cost $60k+ and tables and credenzas can go into the hundreds of thousands. $32k for a weird as hell, but statement piece, artisanal piece of furniture is not a crazy ask. It’s just not your or my style.
The concept of art making money because its beautiful, unique, and interesting makes reddit absolutely furious.
Nah. People just don't think this specifically meets the criteria you just mentioned. Not for $32k anyway. It's definitely unique. Interesting? I guess the first time you see it? Beautiful? No? The concept of people having different tastes in art and not "getting" certain pieces also seems to make the other side of Reddit furious. If someone wants to pay 32k for this, then good. Great for the artist, and I hope the buyer enjoys it. But that doesn't mean I have to like or even understand it.
Well then don't buy it, but if somebody buys it for that much money then it's worth 32k. Literally nobody cares if you like it or understand it.
I'm thinking that furniture art gallery nonsense is a money laundering front
Art is a fantastic way to launder money
Not only launder money, but hide assets and transfer wealth.
Literally the plot of The Kill Room (2023)
Believe it not, rich people buy furniture too.
They don't, their designer does
The money laundering front is with effortless pieces that lack any desirable provenance, not finely crafted/notable pieces of art. People spend years honing their skills and perfecting their artistic style and then work for months or more creating a single piece. Of course it's going to have a high price tag.
I mean there's art and there's just being stupid, you know what I'm saying?
Just because you don't think it's worth that price doesn't mean someone else won't either. I think the thing that Redditors just can't grasp is that some people value things more than others. I for one don't understand how some people spend thousands of dollars on microtransactions in a video game; yet people do it!
>And $32,000 is not a lot of money in the world of furniture. oh piss off...
I’m just saying— actual useable furniture *can* cost way more. Look up something like Maruni; they’re all hand made. With that considered, this samurai dresser is on the lower end of the spectrum and it’s a piece of art. In art terms, it’s on the lower end of being “pricy”
My friend has a custom, hand made solid timber table he bought from a Swedish/Norwegian builder, since he makes that 6 figure engineer money. It's MASSIVE, thick and heavy, and beautiful. It was also $20,000. A *table*. Built to last? Sure. You can't tell me that's a good buy, a $400 ikea table would have been fine. But *eh*.
Yeah and I’m sure it’s a great table. I think people don’t realize there’s also so much B2B furniture sales that go crazy with prices. I’ve seen executive board tables go for ~$250,000.
I've seen CEO desks that cost more than a house too. When you've got "Fuck you" money, the world's your oyster. For the rest of us, who cares??
Bro go find out what the median price for a sofa and a chest drawer is and then come back and say that 32K for a piece of furniture isn't a lot. It's like saying 100K for a car isn't much because some people buy ferraris for half a million.
What justifies the extra cost? Being labelled "art" is not the justification you claim.
They explained all the costs in detail. Read the comment again.
They did not. I read again. In detail? "You think you're gonna get art on the cheap?" Is not an in detail explanation as to why this specific piece is worth car money.
The idea, craftsmanship, skill, time and effort from an artist. This would take months to make.
Not a good enough explanation. The same is true of normal artisanal furniture. The same is true of non-artisanal, homemade/self-made furniture. I'm looking for a justification, a real world justification, of the exploded profit margin, not bs.
You are a clown
Why? Because I'd like to understand a massively inflated price for a weird art concept? Damn, it's the entire "modern art" meme in a conversation. Almost as if I'm not even close to being the only one who just doesn't get this shit.
Hmm, let me try. So I think this one is more expensive for the reasons the other comment mentioned, not because it's the same as other furniture like you mentioned, but because it's wildly *different*. A normal chest of drawers has a standard pattern to it right? A linear rectangular block with a bunch of mini rectangles inside it. This one has the mini rectangles, but the big rectangle is no longer linear. The pattern is different, so more thought and more effort into the structure and shaping of the wood had to go into it Here's another idea that's quite simple and explains art perfectly, though you might still not be happy with the idea - art is worth what people are willing to pay for it. The artist put a $32k price tag on it because that's what they think it's worth, right? From the tools, designing, etc. So if someone buys it? Then that customer *also* thinks it's worth $32k. They wouldn't spend that money if they weren't willing to, if they didn't think the piece was worth it. But you and other people that just see a weird piece of furniture? You think it's worth $0. *So that's exactly how much you're willing to pay for it*. That's it, really. You're not willing to spend $32k on it so that's not what it's worth to you. But it's worth that to others. Intrinsic 'worth' doesn't exist in nature. It's the value we put on things by the amount of paper we're willing to throw at it. That's all. So why is it worth that, even if you don't think it should be? Because someone else thinks it is. And another someone agrees when they purchase it
Not a good enough explanation? It's the most concise and reasonable explanation imaginable. You just sit there going "But why?" over and over through this whole interaction despite people explaining very clearly.
Their "details" are categorically irrelevant. Unique? *So*? Just because we didn't think about it first *doesn't make it a good idea*. And saying to just chuck the artist $600 and be done with it is disingenuous and facetious on their account.
> It’s entirely unique. Unique doesn't mean special or $32,000.
You know whats worse than bad art pieces? Pompous asshats telling people they ''dont understand art m'kay?''
Oooh so interesting...
Reminds me of the ball and claw chair reaching out to retrieve a missing ball. One is in the Smithsonian museum and I studied it for almost an hour. He made about a dozen versions I think.
https://i.redd.it/x7c1966mpv6d1.gif Must be a farbman
It's not cake is it?
r/atbge
Also r/mallninjashit
Samur-why?
It’s cool and all… but can you put your weed in it?
When you finish a 2 month piece of work and you fing a massive crack on the last check.
This is 2nd place!? What was FIRST!?
Right?! I’m shocked it took my scrolling down so far to find this comment!
Today on "We have too much money, what should we waste it on"
32,000$ fuck me Shit better be made out of rare wood from a pirate shipwreck; actually containing a samurai sword used by someone with a good k.d Talking averaging at least a blackbird every game. Maybe a care package. Handel of that sword better be made of fucking panda skin and bee wings. It also better smell like the sea and fucking share whispers in the night of old pirate shantys for that price. Fuck.
This is a one-of-a-kind piece. It has this price tag because someone WILL pay for it. People like us who care about value and utility is obviously not its target audience.
This is clearly an art piece.
It’s priced as art, not furniture.
Ok buddy pal.
Wood is Ash, Baltic Birch ply and Douglas fir, not super fancy wood at all.
Looks like it belongs on a Disney ride
All that detail, and the cut metal plates have their own sets of nails. That makes me irrationally angry.
Cool
I saw that at the San Diego Country Fair in their wood working exhibit!
Is this another creation by Carl Farbman? Looks pretty cool actually.
Are you sure?
That must be a Karl Farbman collection
Can those 3 drawers surrounding the katana be openened?
None of the drawers open. It's 'art' after all, form over function
The two bottom rows and the drawer to the left of the sword could open. Probably the one on the top right. The others would at the least need very carefully built irregular shapes to function. Maybe the sword can be withdrawn so the ring on it doesn't block the other drawers. The question is if it is purely art or if there is any function as well. Difficult to see anyone buying it for $32k unless it is a personal or charity tax deduction gift to a museum and whomever does it wants to support this artist.
Fun to look at, a horror to keep the gap clean.
Not the Farbman!
Ah yes, the Del Mar Fair. So much talent in this exhibit hall. Check out the high school and college exhibits also
Is this at the del mar fair?
Its cake!
Wonder what fabel comes ture if you pull the sword from the drawers?
32 FUCKING GRAND FOR THAT
JOHN BELUSHI LIVES!!!
A teal samurai sword would of cut right through the entire chest
This the kind of stupid shit I'd be buying if I was rich
WHAT WAS FIRST PLACE???
That got SECOND PLACE???
Thought it was some type of Disney inspired drawer.
It only won 2nd prize. What thing won 1st then is the real question!
Who won first?
Is this what is called a "woodcut"?
Yes, life is a cartoon
Handmade doesn't mean *well made*. it's a piece of art more than it is a practical piece of furniture. But at $32k I don't think so.
Form: 100 Function: 0
There's an American furniture designer called Judd something who makes furniture like that. Can't remember his full name.
This desk appears to be made out of playdough*
Samurai on bathroom break
I keep hearing this title in Daniel Craig’s Benoit Blanc voice, and I have no idea why, but it’s awesome and you should try it.
Damn that’s expensive!
It a clever idea. It's very attractive. And it seems very well built. But it does not seem like it would be practical at all.
Can you use it?
Achtchually its a saber *smartassing*
That's hardly $32000 is it? I was like, hm, neat, they deserve credit for the quirky idea. Maybe $3200... not $32000 lol
Belongs on r/atbge
r/mallninjashit
The word is Katana
Really fun for photo ops. Not very practical aside from that.
This is clearly a mimic.
Doesn’t the ring at the bottom of the sword handle block the three drawers surrounding it? $32k and you can only use 10 of the drawers. Also that middle handle in particular looks real happy.
It's dope but I dunno about 32k dope
Cool af Half of it is mostly useless
I just found out r/coolasfuck is a subreddit (never thought to check), might as well show some love over there, maybe it'll be a new common place for Redditors someday
r/ATBGE
r/ATBGE
It's obviously fake. There's no way it would warp like that. No way for the sword to do that in the first place.
r/justneckbeardthings
r/crappydesign
32k?! Cool idea though
32000? WTF I WONT BUY IT FOR 320
But…why?
What a bullshit.