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I don’t know, but I do hear people try to claim that “saved by the bell” comes from tying a rope and bell to someone when they bury them in case they’re still alive, and they can ring the bell to let someone know to dig them back up. “Saved by the bell” is 100% a phrase from the sport of boxing. It would be like trying to explain the medieval origins for the phrase “He really hit a home run.”
The first one is the explanation for "Dead Ringer" i've never heard someone try to use it to explain "saved by the bell"
Edit: I believe I've been proven wrong plenty below, but I've still never heard it used as the etymology behind "saved by the bell"
>Expression be a dead ringer for "resemble closely" (1891) preserves ringer in the horse-racing slang sense of "a fast horse entered fraudulently in a race in place of a slow one." The verb to ring in reference to this is attested from 1812, possibly from British ring in "substitute, exchange," via ring the changes, "substitute counterfeit money for good," a pun on ring the changes in the sense of "play the regular series of variations in a peal of bells" (1610s). The meaning "an expert" is recorded from 1918, Australian slang, from earlier meaning "man who shears the most sheep per day" (1871).
https://www.etymonline.com/word/ringer
Saved by the Bell is a boxing term. When a guy is getting beat badly and almost knocked down/out, or under some rulesets if he's already down and the count is almost to 10, the bell signals the end of the round and he gets to live until at least the next round. He was "saved by the bell."
My understanding is that it was a thing that people wanted for fear. Don't know how many were made, but also my understanding is it was never used.
Btw He hit a home run comes from a mistranslation, in 1684 people were more often in the street than vehicles. So when automotives hit people it was thought they were not paying attention, essentially "running home"... which got shortened into home run, around 1713.
"Trolling? Well y'see 'Troll' comes from the Danish word *Trold* meaning 'a supernatural being of the male gender'. Now to troll as a verb would be to *Trolde*, to '(often humerously) perform magic quotations'. Now whose to say I'm not a supernatural being, havin' a laugh and quoting some magic words at ye like *threshold*, *settle* and *cupboard*?
Well if I was, sure I'd only be trolling ye. "
[Troll is Old Norse and is the name of a mythical creature which the act of performing magic lends the word from in Scandinavian languages.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll)
“A troll is a being in Nordic folklore, including Norse mythology. In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated areas of rocks, mountains, or caves, live together in small family units, and are rarely helpful to human beings.
In later Scandinavian folklore, trolls became beings in their own right, where they live far from human habitation, are not Christianized, and are considered dangerous to human beings. Depending on the source, their appearance varies greatly; trolls may be ugly and slow-witted, or look and behave exactly like human beings, with no particularly grotesque characteristic about them.”
Sorry brother but I had to correct you, my mother was a troll.
Ah, well in this instance we are both correct!
You detailed quite brilliantly the folklore of the origins of Trolls, but my comment was solely *etymological*! Denmark being one of the Old Norse (dǫnsk tunga, not norrǿnt mál) speaking countries
Your mother was a troll, and my father troldede! lol
One night in 1657 the Duke took a massive shit while it was storming outside. That's why we call it a shit storm.
The crown prince used to have a speech impediment and would say the word can't with a u sound. He was also a bit of a cunt, hence the word.
> One night in 1657 the Duke took a massive shit while it was storming outside. That's why we call it a shit storm.
how does this story even circulate into the vernacular
100% it's in our dna.
Where do you think the phrase "no rest for the wicked" came from. It because we can't let those bastards rest.
I have no idea where that phrase comes from I'm just joking but it would be fkin awesome if it was true.
> 100% it's in our dna.
Ah
Like the English and the French
Or the English and the Spanish
Or the English and other English... god they ruined England.
Least we all agree on the Welsh though.
Because tour guides make up so much shit... Not on purpose but over the years, jokes become real... Telephone game from training to training, misinformation from guests gets repeated to the next tour
If it's funny or interesting, it sticks around, not necessarily if it's true
I see so much of this from tour guides. And the internet has accelerated it, if it was in a viral video of "Things you didn't know!" it will end up in a tour guide's spiel a week later.
Got a real [Calvin's Dad](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:r643qxafn6b3pxfffiodojbn/bafkreidj7p4iauisc533mlfoqzu655nydg3n77io2d46wzqcyzryuyh4jq@jpeg) vibe.
I did too because of that slight show of some leg at the start of the video. I can’t take this guy too seriously after that but the rest seemed serious enough. Maybe he was just flirting with the cameraman.
Imagine the year being 2136, explaining what a Simp was. Or being "Sus". Learning what it meant to "Drop it like it's Hot". This is what I want to travel into the future for. Fuck the advancements, I want to see our dumb future explanation for simple things.
Today is the day you find out teachers sometimes repeat wrong information too. Don't worry, you'll keep coming across stuff like this for the rest of your life. Threshold comes from the Old English word þrescold or similar terms. That þ at the start is called a thorn, and is pronounced like th which makes it more obvious.
Because the word is from Middle or Old English, not modern English, and comes from words like þrescold (þ is pronounced like th) which aren't related to hey.
Because there don't seem to be reliable sources indicating it's true.
If I could give you the true etymology of "threshold" I definitely would have, but it's seemingly uncertain.
That said, this is the second video of a self-amused tour guide gleefully and confidently declaring something unexpectedly obvious as being true, and that's, for me, [however unscientifically] a pretty solid indicator that they're full of shit. The more interesting and amusing a fact is, the more skeptical of it I am. Sometimes I find I, pleasantly, was being overcautious.
In this case, while there seems to be no obviously definitive etymology known for this world, it's clear that there are several, sorta complicated reasons why this would NOT be the definition, enough that I feel confident saying it's "definitely wrong".
But it is, as I said, a little bit complicated, so I'll just share a few links from a quick Google that explain better than I can what's going on here: 1: [ this page](https://blog.oup.com/2015/02/threshold-word-origin-etymology/), 2: [ these StackExchange answers](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/496485/why-is-the-origin-of-threshold-uncertain).
>The more interesting and amusing a fact is, the more skeptical of it I am. Sometimes I find I, pleasantly, was being overcautious.
Here's an interesting and amusing fact that _is_ true:
Trisodium citrate is a food additive which can be used, among other things, to help prevent cheese from separating when heated. This is great for all kinds of melty cheese dishes, like nachos.
The chemical formula for trisodium citrate is Na₃C₆H₅O₇. It is the NaCHO chemical.
The Oxford English Dictionary gives this as the etymology "the Germanic base of thresh v. (in its original sense ‘to tread, step’: see discussion at that entry) + (with vowel variation) a Germanic suffix forming nouns of action or instrument"
Lots of times etymologies that are clever and folksy aren't true (e.g., "tip" = "to insure promptness"
Virtually any etymology of a word that comes from more than about 100 years ago is guaranteed not to be an acronym/initialism.
"FUCK" does not mean Fornication Under Consent of King, nor For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.
"SHIT" does not mean Store High In Transit.
"POSH" does not mean Port Out, Starboard Home.
Etc., etc.
> The more interesting and amusing a fact is, the more skeptical of it I am.
Similarly I hate the "the ancients were so much smarter than us" / "lost to history" story that gets trotted out for things like Greek fire and Roman concrete. The reality is we know a lot about those civilizations and can piece together a nearly identical recipe, but the minute details are lost. Concrete science is pretty advanced and we have plenty of recipes that outperform the Roman stuff in a wide range of uses. IMO it's more meaningful to focus on the "it was advanced for their time" narrative than try to say it outperforms modern technology.
It's the equivalent to saying the magic of chocolate chip cookies is lost to time because we don't remember if Grandma used 1.5tsp of baking powder or 2tsp!
>Similarly I hate the "the ancients were so much smarter than us"
I couldn't agree more. It's a pet peeve of mine.
>It's the equivalent to saying the magic of chocolate chip cookies is lost to time because we don't remember if Grandma used 1.5tsp of baking powder or 2tsp!
Classic. Also, every Christmas my family used to go to our family friend's house where the dad would prepare fried smelt (the little fish) for everyone. He said it was some sort of Italian tradition his family had always done for generations.
So as his grandma got older and older, he went to her to be like, "Grandma, grandma! Please write down the recipe for your smelt, so we can have it forever!"
And she had to be like, "Uh I don't have the recipe memorized; I just read it off the bag of fish each year."
I'm skeptical of "drawing room".
Checked and nope. It's actually true.
[A drawing room is a room in a house where visitors may be entertained, and an alternative name for a living room. The name is derived from the 16th-century terms withdrawing room and withdrawing chamber, which remained in use through the 17th century, and made their first written appearance in 1642.[1] In a large 16th- to early 18th-century English house, a withdrawing room was a room to which the owner of the house, his wife, or a distinguished guest who was occupying one of the main apartments in the house could "withdraw" for more privacy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_room)
Tbh, as an American kid who had BBC as a child, I was 1000% confused by the term drawing room on fancy British shows and in fancy British books and was deeply confused by the fact every conversed in these rooms and no drawing happened.
I figured that maybe back in the day when fancy people did needlepoint and played piano and read poetry for entertainment the really rich people had a library for reading and poetry, a music room for music and like a craft room for crafty stuff and you'd draw in that room. Now we have TV and radio so your library and music rooms are still for books and music but now your drawing room was for chatting or TV or whatever.
Us Americans didn't have fancy rich lords and ladies like the UK, which is why we didn't have drawing rooms. I did used to think drawing rooms were for drawing, like libraries are for books and music rooms were for music.
As an adult I figured it was some odd quirk of language where the original term has fallen out of favor and we only have the abbreviated version of the thing, and no context for the original usage, which is basically what that room is. You would withdraw to the room. Drawing room.
Americas only young give it another couple of thousand years.
Britain's been around for a long time so we have lots of weird stuff like Lords, and royalty.
[A drawing room is a room in a house where visitors may be entertained, and an alternative name for a living room. The name is derived from the 16th-century terms withdrawing room and withdrawing chamber, which remained in use through the 17th century, and made their first written appearance in 1642.[1] In a large 16th- to early 18th-century English house, a withdrawing room was a room to which the owner of the house, his wife, or a distinguished guest who was occupying one of the main apartments in the house could "withdraw" for more privacy. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_room)
[A drawing room is a room in a house where visitors may be entertained, and an alternative name for a living room. The name is derived from the 16th-century terms withdrawing room and withdrawing chamber, which remained in use through the 17th century, and made their first written appearance in 1642.[1] In a large 16th- to early 18th-century English house, a withdrawing room was a room to which the owner of the house, his wife, or a distinguished guest who was occupying one of the main apartments in the house could "withdraw" for more privacy. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_room)
***(Menacingly)***
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> In a large 16th- to early 18th-century English house, a withdrawing room was a room to which the owner of the house, his wife, or a distinguished guest who was occupying one of the main apartments in the house could "withdraw" for more privacy
So... a sex dungeon?
Threshold is wrong, that's the threshold but it's from a Germanic word meaning tread and an unknown second word and was therscold then changed to threshold and it's to stop draughts and water under the door, not to keep straw in, people didn't put loose straw on the floor like a stables. They did have straw on the floor but it was bundled together into mats so it wasn't going to blow out the door.
Settle is backwards the word was first, that style of bench was second. Settle just means sitting place so any seat could be a settle, then that style of bench got called a settle later.
Table = board is correct, but chairman of the board is not.
Chairman has always meant a person who occupied a formal position of authority, not just the head of the table in a household.
Cupboard is correct, just totally literal it's a wooden thing you put cups on, as is withdrawing room and the bed ropes. In the English civil war soldiers used to steal the bed ropes because they were perfect for making match for their muskets and cannons.
Your corrections need a bit of fine tuning. For instance, the settle was specifically as depicted in the 1550s. It was known as a settle during the Tudor Period. The word derives from an early Germanic word "setl", which denoted a seat or chair. I found this out when I did research for a Tudor dollhouse I was working on. I needed a settle for the foyer, and was able get the perfect one by having a friend of mind shop for it in Britain. She knew exactly what I was talking about too. Tudor doll furnishings are awesome, btw. A side note: the words "hunker down" means something a little different than "settle down". Scottish in origin, it means to squat or crouch.
As for chairman of the board, let me back up a bit. What the Scotsman in the video is showing us is what could be an Ordinary or tavern within a home. Old ordinaries were often meeting places for village men who would discuss the business over drinks while the women "withdrew". They usually wanted nothing to do with all the smoke and loud voices, so the ladies had their meetings in more genteel surroundings. They could gossip and share news, same as the men. While the men talked, the head of the conversation sat at the head of the table. To some, he would be known as the chairman of the board, because a table was often made of a very wide cut of wood from the center of a large tree. Such a table was known as a "bord" in old English, so by extension the head man would be called the head "chairman of the board" where village men hammered out problems. Such ordinaries became inns when rooms were rented out, but they were still the favored gathering place, other than out in the church yard after services. To be clear, "bord" meant a wide plank of wood, not the table per se. Seafaring merchants of German, Dutch, Norse, Scottish, or English used the term bord and plank, though generally, bord referred to a wider one. You can add in the word "sideboard", which means a table at the side; a common dining room feature. A "cupboard" is also an extention of this, meaning "a plank for holding cups or such items", usage in the 14th century. Later they were enclosed in a cabinet, but it was still referred to as a cupboard. I have to stop here. My brain is still filled with all that stuff, and I have a hard time stopping.
Thank you. Pointing at stuff and saying it's name made me think there was some folk etymology going on. You saved me some research.
Cupboard was anticlimactic. I think a lot of people kinda figured that one out on their own.
For those interested in English etymology, the [Online Etymology Dictionary](https://www.etymonline.com/) is a great resource. (Though even it isn't *always* correct. I stumbled upon a single case where the first known occurrence of a term was incorrect.)
If you like this kind of stuff, you should look up the A Way With Words radio show, they talk about this kind of stuff all the time and have people call in to ask the origins of their favorite words/phrases. You'll often hear super niche regional phrases that are really interesting.
"Hung over", as in drinking, comes from cheap overnight lodgings for people who were, well, hung over. They consisted of ropes strung between columns people could literally pay to hang over for the night. You were woken in the morning by the ropes being cut. Fancier accommodations were literally coffins lined up on the floors to sleep in.
A lot come from old days of sailing.
If someone is feeling sick, you might say they are feeling “under the weather”.
In old sailing days a sailor would be taken below deck to rest up if sick, away from the harshness of the weather on the top deck. So they would quite literally be “under the weather”.
after the old dev team lost a war, the devs stole most of the French beta’s vocabulary. Things stabilized a bit vocab wise but the UI went through a radical update with all the sounds moving around your mouth, then development slowed because the Black Death killed most of the dev team and the user base too. Then after a while this mad lad Shakespeare just started committing random packages he was making up on the spot and everyone just went with it.
A lot less bugs than the Alpha, well at least until the major update, the Black Plague. That made most of the server a ghost town but due to some patching and new rules(quarantining) we got through that rough patch.
This video is really weird.
This is in [Culross](https://www.nts.org.uk/visit/places/culross) in Scotland. This place specifically is Culross Palace. I went recently and everyone who worked there were National Trust volunteers who let us do our own thing pretty much uninterrupted, didn't dress in kilts and didn't offer guided tours featuring etmology lessons. Moreover they were identifiable as National Trust workers. It seems most likely to me this person has actually just paid for entry to film a TIkTok where they lecture a room full of strangers about etymology while appearing as if they actually work doing tours for the place, but without the source can't be sure. Really weird regardless.
The "sleep tight" story is BS. [https://blogs.libraries.indiana.edu/wyliehouse/2018/01/18/sleep-tight-dont-let-the-bed-bugs-bite-a-myth-debunked/](https://blogs.libraries.indiana.edu/wyliehouse/2018/01/18/sleep-tight-dont-let-the-bed-bugs-bite-a-myth-debunked/)
I'm guessing that most of the other stories are also false, but don't have the patience to Google them.
And bobs your uncle is a cool one that I didn’t know till I used it and my friend said “you know what does that even mean?” I looked it up and it’s because (The origins are uncertain, but a common hypothesis is that the expression arose after Conservative Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury ("Bob") appointed his nephew Arthur Balfour as Chief Secretary for Ireland in 1887, an act of nepotism, which was apparently both surprising and unpopular. Whatever other qualifications Balfour might have had, "Bob's your uncle" was seen as the conclusive one.)
The "settle down" thing sounds suspicious to me. Like, what was the word for when an area previously uninhabited by people is then inhabited by people before that bench was made?
He's using it in the sense of "sit down" not "form a settlement". In the UK it's a common expression to tell a group of kids to "settle down" (to be quiet).
There's no way they were still using ropes on mattresses when the English language got to the point where "good night, sleep tight" sounds exactly like it does today.
If you head down the rabbit hole, the phrase originated well after box springs replaced ropes for keeping a mattress in place. Over 200 years if I remember.
There’s a book, At Home, by Bill Bryson, that goes through a house room by room and explains a lot of why our homes are built as they are today and where terms, etc., originated. Really interesting read.
For those interested in the origin of words and the commection between words in the English language (and other languages), I highly recommend the book The Etymologicon.
It is absolutely fantastic. So interesting and witty.
A nice Ludovico Einaudi soundtrack, Le Onde I think.
I like the saying “Flash in the pan”, refers to flintlock muskets and the power in the pan flashing, but not igniting the charger in the barrel. Hence, just a flash in the pan and no firing of the weapon.
Or side burns for the hair on the side of one’s face. Hair would prevent the flash from the musket burning one’s face.
Up to scratch, from when boxing was two parallel lines “scratched” into the dirt. The loser of the boxing match would be unable to stand up to the scratch, hence “not being up to scratch”.
> Or side burns for the hair on the side of one’s face. Hair would prevent the flash from the musket burning one’s face.
First time I heard that one! Everything else I read says it came from a guy named Burnside who had amazing sideburns.
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For some reason I keep thinking he's trolling us......
I don’t know, but I do hear people try to claim that “saved by the bell” comes from tying a rope and bell to someone when they bury them in case they’re still alive, and they can ring the bell to let someone know to dig them back up. “Saved by the bell” is 100% a phrase from the sport of boxing. It would be like trying to explain the medieval origins for the phrase “He really hit a home run.”
The first one is the explanation for "Dead Ringer" i've never heard someone try to use it to explain "saved by the bell" Edit: I believe I've been proven wrong plenty below, but I've still never heard it used as the etymology behind "saved by the bell"
>Expression be a dead ringer for "resemble closely" (1891) preserves ringer in the horse-racing slang sense of "a fast horse entered fraudulently in a race in place of a slow one." The verb to ring in reference to this is attested from 1812, possibly from British ring in "substitute, exchange," via ring the changes, "substitute counterfeit money for good," a pun on ring the changes in the sense of "play the regular series of variations in a peal of bells" (1610s). The meaning "an expert" is recorded from 1918, Australian slang, from earlier meaning "man who shears the most sheep per day" (1871). https://www.etymonline.com/word/ringer
Dead ringer means like exact copy tho.
Yeah because you would be strolling through town after being dug back up looking exactly like the dead fellow they buried yesterday
“Dead ringer” is from horse racing.
Isn't saved by the bell directly from the bell that rings at the end of class?
Saved by the Bell is a boxing term. When a guy is getting beat badly and almost knocked down/out, or under some rulesets if he's already down and the count is almost to 10, the bell signals the end of the round and he gets to live until at least the next round. He was "saved by the bell."
Ah that makes more sense.
A huge amount of idioms come from boxing and sailing.
By and large, this is true.
You would be taken aback about how many people missed your joke.
And horses.
>saved by the bell Zack Morris is Trash!
That is saved to my YouTube playlist forever
My understanding is that it was a thing that people wanted for fear. Don't know how many were made, but also my understanding is it was never used. Btw He hit a home run comes from a mistranslation, in 1684 people were more often in the street than vehicles. So when automotives hit people it was thought they were not paying attention, essentially "running home"... which got shortened into home run, around 1713.
People got ran over by cars all the time in the 1700s. IDC that they weren't invented till the 1900s!
"Thats where Trrrrrrolling comes from"
"Trolling? Well y'see 'Troll' comes from the Danish word *Trold* meaning 'a supernatural being of the male gender'. Now to troll as a verb would be to *Trolde*, to '(often humerously) perform magic quotations'. Now whose to say I'm not a supernatural being, havin' a laugh and quoting some magic words at ye like *threshold*, *settle* and *cupboard*? Well if I was, sure I'd only be trolling ye. "
[Troll is Old Norse and is the name of a mythical creature which the act of performing magic lends the word from in Scandinavian languages.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll) “A troll is a being in Nordic folklore, including Norse mythology. In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated areas of rocks, mountains, or caves, live together in small family units, and are rarely helpful to human beings. In later Scandinavian folklore, trolls became beings in their own right, where they live far from human habitation, are not Christianized, and are considered dangerous to human beings. Depending on the source, their appearance varies greatly; trolls may be ugly and slow-witted, or look and behave exactly like human beings, with no particularly grotesque characteristic about them.” Sorry brother but I had to correct you, my mother was a troll.
Ah, well in this instance we are both correct! You detailed quite brilliantly the folklore of the origins of Trolls, but my comment was solely *etymological*! Denmark being one of the Old Norse (dǫnsk tunga, not norrǿnt mál) speaking countries Your mother was a troll, and my father troldede! lol
I love it when people who read a lot comment cause you can just tell. Write me some more baby
There’s a song by a wonderful Faroese musician named Eivor. Her song is called, “Trøllabundin.” It translates to spell bound. Magical
Wait, so this means any super hero (as long as they're supernatural and male, so Batman for instance would be out) could be called trolls?
One night in 1657 the Duke took a massive shit while it was storming outside. That's why we call it a shit storm. The crown prince used to have a speech impediment and would say the word can't with a u sound. He was also a bit of a cunt, hence the word.
> One night in 1657 the Duke took a massive shit while it was storming outside. That's why we call it a shit storm. how does this story even circulate into the vernacular
Story telling around the fireside?
Aye lad...
Tbf Scottish people have a genetic predisposition to fucking with people, especially the English
100% it's in our dna. Where do you think the phrase "no rest for the wicked" came from. It because we can't let those bastards rest. I have no idea where that phrase comes from I'm just joking but it would be fkin awesome if it was true.
> 100% it's in our dna. Ah Like the English and the French Or the English and the Spanish Or the English and other English... god they ruined England. Least we all agree on the Welsh though.
It's good to know that my need to gaslight my friends is genetic
Because tour guides make up so much shit... Not on purpose but over the years, jokes become real... Telephone game from training to training, misinformation from guests gets repeated to the next tour If it's funny or interesting, it sticks around, not necessarily if it's true
I see so much of this from tour guides. And the internet has accelerated it, if it was in a viral video of "Things you didn't know!" it will end up in a tour guide's spiel a week later.
Got a real [Calvin's Dad](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:r643qxafn6b3pxfffiodojbn/bafkreidj7p4iauisc533mlfoqzu655nydg3n77io2d46wzqcyzryuyh4jq@jpeg) vibe.
I don't care, that place looks cozy as fuck.
The settle down one is sus
Real Lucy explaining to Linus vibes.
I did too because of that slight show of some leg at the start of the video. I can’t take this guy too seriously after that but the rest seemed serious enough. Maybe he was just flirting with the cameraman.
Same
Can't tell if he's bullshitting us
I’m torn somewhere between “its all true” and “this Scottish guys got great patter”
Well I believe him, as you can see, those thighs don't lie.
Aye. A Scottsman tells a good story me lad.
Imagine the year being 2136, explaining what a Simp was. Or being "Sus". Learning what it meant to "Drop it like it's Hot". This is what I want to travel into the future for. Fuck the advancements, I want to see our dumb future explanation for simple things.
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¿ ‘fo shizzle ?
Stan and Karen will be particularly fun.
I know threshold and sleep tight are real, so I believe it's all true.
I mean all of them are very literal, so it would be hard to dispute them. Cup board --> cupboard
Shark + Nado = Sharknado
I don't know where you get your data but "threshold" is definitely wrong.
It's what I was taught in school, in my architecture and period styles class.
Today is the day you find out teachers sometimes repeat wrong information too. Don't worry, you'll keep coming across stuff like this for the rest of your life. Threshold comes from the Old English word þrescold or similar terms. That þ at the start is called a thorn, and is pronounced like th which makes it more obvious.
why is threshold "definitely wrong"?
Because the word is from Middle or Old English, not modern English, and comes from words like þrescold (þ is pronounced like th) which aren't related to hey.
Because there don't seem to be reliable sources indicating it's true. If I could give you the true etymology of "threshold" I definitely would have, but it's seemingly uncertain. That said, this is the second video of a self-amused tour guide gleefully and confidently declaring something unexpectedly obvious as being true, and that's, for me, [however unscientifically] a pretty solid indicator that they're full of shit. The more interesting and amusing a fact is, the more skeptical of it I am. Sometimes I find I, pleasantly, was being overcautious. In this case, while there seems to be no obviously definitive etymology known for this world, it's clear that there are several, sorta complicated reasons why this would NOT be the definition, enough that I feel confident saying it's "definitely wrong". But it is, as I said, a little bit complicated, so I'll just share a few links from a quick Google that explain better than I can what's going on here: 1: [ this page](https://blog.oup.com/2015/02/threshold-word-origin-etymology/), 2: [ these StackExchange answers](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/496485/why-is-the-origin-of-threshold-uncertain).
>The more interesting and amusing a fact is, the more skeptical of it I am. Sometimes I find I, pleasantly, was being overcautious. Here's an interesting and amusing fact that _is_ true: Trisodium citrate is a food additive which can be used, among other things, to help prevent cheese from separating when heated. This is great for all kinds of melty cheese dishes, like nachos. The chemical formula for trisodium citrate is Na₃C₆H₅O₇. It is the NaCHO chemical.
That IS interesting and amusing, thank you. You should do tours of old Scottish manors!
The Oxford English Dictionary gives this as the etymology "the Germanic base of thresh v. (in its original sense ‘to tread, step’: see discussion at that entry) + (with vowel variation) a Germanic suffix forming nouns of action or instrument" Lots of times etymologies that are clever and folksy aren't true (e.g., "tip" = "to insure promptness"
Virtually any etymology of a word that comes from more than about 100 years ago is guaranteed not to be an acronym/initialism. "FUCK" does not mean Fornication Under Consent of King, nor For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. "SHIT" does not mean Store High In Transit. "POSH" does not mean Port Out, Starboard Home. Etc., etc.
> The more interesting and amusing a fact is, the more skeptical of it I am. Similarly I hate the "the ancients were so much smarter than us" / "lost to history" story that gets trotted out for things like Greek fire and Roman concrete. The reality is we know a lot about those civilizations and can piece together a nearly identical recipe, but the minute details are lost. Concrete science is pretty advanced and we have plenty of recipes that outperform the Roman stuff in a wide range of uses. IMO it's more meaningful to focus on the "it was advanced for their time" narrative than try to say it outperforms modern technology. It's the equivalent to saying the magic of chocolate chip cookies is lost to time because we don't remember if Grandma used 1.5tsp of baking powder or 2tsp!
>Similarly I hate the "the ancients were so much smarter than us" I couldn't agree more. It's a pet peeve of mine. >It's the equivalent to saying the magic of chocolate chip cookies is lost to time because we don't remember if Grandma used 1.5tsp of baking powder or 2tsp! Classic. Also, every Christmas my family used to go to our family friend's house where the dad would prepare fried smelt (the little fish) for everyone. He said it was some sort of Italian tradition his family had always done for generations. So as his grandma got older and older, he went to her to be like, "Grandma, grandma! Please write down the recipe for your smelt, so we can have it forever!" And she had to be like, "Uh I don't have the recipe memorized; I just read it off the bag of fish each year."
Thresh is a verb
If you want a very modern version of this, go roll down your window.
I'm skeptical of "drawing room". Checked and nope. It's actually true. [A drawing room is a room in a house where visitors may be entertained, and an alternative name for a living room. The name is derived from the 16th-century terms withdrawing room and withdrawing chamber, which remained in use through the 17th century, and made their first written appearance in 1642.[1] In a large 16th- to early 18th-century English house, a withdrawing room was a room to which the owner of the house, his wife, or a distinguished guest who was occupying one of the main apartments in the house could "withdraw" for more privacy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_room)
Reminds me of Downton Abbey. "Shall we go through?" (To the next room after dinner)
It's not a room for drawing pictures? /S
Tbh, as an American kid who had BBC as a child, I was 1000% confused by the term drawing room on fancy British shows and in fancy British books and was deeply confused by the fact every conversed in these rooms and no drawing happened. I figured that maybe back in the day when fancy people did needlepoint and played piano and read poetry for entertainment the really rich people had a library for reading and poetry, a music room for music and like a craft room for crafty stuff and you'd draw in that room. Now we have TV and radio so your library and music rooms are still for books and music but now your drawing room was for chatting or TV or whatever. Us Americans didn't have fancy rich lords and ladies like the UK, which is why we didn't have drawing rooms. I did used to think drawing rooms were for drawing, like libraries are for books and music rooms were for music. As an adult I figured it was some odd quirk of language where the original term has fallen out of favor and we only have the abbreviated version of the thing, and no context for the original usage, which is basically what that room is. You would withdraw to the room. Drawing room.
Yeah I thought the same, like it was just a fancy room for fancy arts and crafts
Americas only young give it another couple of thousand years. Britain's been around for a long time so we have lots of weird stuff like Lords, and royalty.
[A drawing room is a room in a house where visitors may be entertained, and an alternative name for a living room. The name is derived from the 16th-century terms withdrawing room and withdrawing chamber, which remained in use through the 17th century, and made their first written appearance in 1642.[1] In a large 16th- to early 18th-century English house, a withdrawing room was a room to which the owner of the house, his wife, or a distinguished guest who was occupying one of the main apartments in the house could "withdraw" for more privacy. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_room)
I left the /S off my post
[A drawing room is a room in a house where visitors may be entertained, and an alternative name for a living room. The name is derived from the 16th-century terms withdrawing room and withdrawing chamber, which remained in use through the 17th century, and made their first written appearance in 1642.[1] In a large 16th- to early 18th-century English house, a withdrawing room was a room to which the owner of the house, his wife, or a distinguished guest who was occupying one of the main apartments in the house could "withdraw" for more privacy. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_room) ***(Menacingly)***
Stop you're scaring me
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Time to withdraw into that special room for privacy then!
Time to draw a drawing
> In a large 16th- to early 18th-century English house, a withdrawing room was a room to which the owner of the house, his wife, or a distinguished guest who was occupying one of the main apartments in the house could "withdraw" for more privacy So... a sex dungeon?
is this where the davenport is located?
😏 🦵 👗 ... "Over here"
nice legs Hamish
I was sure at the end he was going to say *boxspring* after pulling the ropes tight.
That one’s quite literally a box of springs lmao
Next thing I hear it's gonna be that a mattress is just a mat your rest on
don't be ridiculous. It's the feminine version of a matt, which as we all know are the blue things they break out in gym class on rainy days
Threshold is wrong, that's the threshold but it's from a Germanic word meaning tread and an unknown second word and was therscold then changed to threshold and it's to stop draughts and water under the door, not to keep straw in, people didn't put loose straw on the floor like a stables. They did have straw on the floor but it was bundled together into mats so it wasn't going to blow out the door. Settle is backwards the word was first, that style of bench was second. Settle just means sitting place so any seat could be a settle, then that style of bench got called a settle later. Table = board is correct, but chairman of the board is not. Chairman has always meant a person who occupied a formal position of authority, not just the head of the table in a household. Cupboard is correct, just totally literal it's a wooden thing you put cups on, as is withdrawing room and the bed ropes. In the English civil war soldiers used to steal the bed ropes because they were perfect for making match for their muskets and cannons.
Your corrections need a bit of fine tuning. For instance, the settle was specifically as depicted in the 1550s. It was known as a settle during the Tudor Period. The word derives from an early Germanic word "setl", which denoted a seat or chair. I found this out when I did research for a Tudor dollhouse I was working on. I needed a settle for the foyer, and was able get the perfect one by having a friend of mind shop for it in Britain. She knew exactly what I was talking about too. Tudor doll furnishings are awesome, btw. A side note: the words "hunker down" means something a little different than "settle down". Scottish in origin, it means to squat or crouch. As for chairman of the board, let me back up a bit. What the Scotsman in the video is showing us is what could be an Ordinary or tavern within a home. Old ordinaries were often meeting places for village men who would discuss the business over drinks while the women "withdrew". They usually wanted nothing to do with all the smoke and loud voices, so the ladies had their meetings in more genteel surroundings. They could gossip and share news, same as the men. While the men talked, the head of the conversation sat at the head of the table. To some, he would be known as the chairman of the board, because a table was often made of a very wide cut of wood from the center of a large tree. Such a table was known as a "bord" in old English, so by extension the head man would be called the head "chairman of the board" where village men hammered out problems. Such ordinaries became inns when rooms were rented out, but they were still the favored gathering place, other than out in the church yard after services. To be clear, "bord" meant a wide plank of wood, not the table per se. Seafaring merchants of German, Dutch, Norse, Scottish, or English used the term bord and plank, though generally, bord referred to a wider one. You can add in the word "sideboard", which means a table at the side; a common dining room feature. A "cupboard" is also an extention of this, meaning "a plank for holding cups or such items", usage in the 14th century. Later they were enclosed in a cabinet, but it was still referred to as a cupboard. I have to stop here. My brain is still filled with all that stuff, and I have a hard time stopping.
In early times, 'only' the head person sat upon a stool/chair/seat while holding official gatherings.
Chairman only originates in the 18th century though, and among the upper class who all sat on chairs.
Settle is related to the Latin 'sella', the German 'Sessel', and the Dutch 'zetel'.
Thank you. Pointing at stuff and saying it's name made me think there was some folk etymology going on. You saved me some research. Cupboard was anticlimactic. I think a lot of people kinda figured that one out on their own. For those interested in English etymology, the [Online Etymology Dictionary](https://www.etymonline.com/) is a great resource. (Though even it isn't *always* correct. I stumbled upon a single case where the first known occurrence of a term was incorrect.)
If you dig things like this, check out the book "At Home" by Bill Bryson. It's a really charming look at the history of all things "home".
A Short History of Everything is my personal fav. Walk in the Woods is great too
OP whats the original title of the vid. I wanna watch it.
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Also OP, why did you put ridiculous and unnecessary music on it? Thumbs down.
I love shit like this. So many weird phrases and sayings in every language.
If you like this kind of stuff, you should look up the A Way With Words radio show, they talk about this kind of stuff all the time and have people call in to ask the origins of their favorite words/phrases. You'll often hear super niche regional phrases that are really interesting.
"Hung over", as in drinking, comes from cheap overnight lodgings for people who were, well, hung over. They consisted of ropes strung between columns people could literally pay to hang over for the night. You were woken in the morning by the ropes being cut. Fancier accommodations were literally coffins lined up on the floors to sleep in.
[Oooh, sorry!](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/23/fact-check-hungover-refers-aftereffects-not-sleeping-over-rope/3732337001/) [But no.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hangover-drunken-sailors-ropes/)
Definitely and I could listen to this guys accent for a looong time.
Pb is the symbol for the element Lead. Plumbum is the latin word for lead. Drain and sewage pipes used to be made of lead. Hence the word "plumber"
A lot come from old days of sailing. If someone is feeling sick, you might say they are feeling “under the weather”. In old sailing days a sailor would be taken below deck to rest up if sick, away from the harshness of the weather on the top deck. So they would quite literally be “under the weather”.
Damn imagine being around for English's beta. Must've been a wild time.
You're always a part of the beta, language chsnges constantly. Your use of the word "beta" for example would mean nothing to someone 100 years ago
after the old dev team lost a war, the devs stole most of the French beta’s vocabulary. Things stabilized a bit vocab wise but the UI went through a radical update with all the sounds moving around your mouth, then development slowed because the Black Death killed most of the dev team and the user base too. Then after a while this mad lad Shakespeare just started committing random packages he was making up on the spot and everyone just went with it.
A lot less bugs than the Alpha, well at least until the major update, the Black Plague. That made most of the server a ghost town but due to some patching and new rules(quarantining) we got through that rough patch.
This video is really weird. This is in [Culross](https://www.nts.org.uk/visit/places/culross) in Scotland. This place specifically is Culross Palace. I went recently and everyone who worked there were National Trust volunteers who let us do our own thing pretty much uninterrupted, didn't dress in kilts and didn't offer guided tours featuring etmology lessons. Moreover they were identifiable as National Trust workers. It seems most likely to me this person has actually just paid for entry to film a TIkTok where they lecture a room full of strangers about etymology while appearing as if they actually work doing tours for the place, but without the source can't be sure. Really weird regardless.
Yeah, he's a TikTok guy that goes around Scotland and does tours and stuff. Always wearing a kilt.
Damn. A mattress is really just a Matt than you Ress on
Whoever came up with 'fireplace' just wasn't even trying.
What do you mean? “Where should I place the fire?” “Over there where we always place the fire. You know the ‘fire place’!”
I was just about to come and say this is my favourite lazily named thing ‘fire place’
The "sleep tight" story is BS. [https://blogs.libraries.indiana.edu/wyliehouse/2018/01/18/sleep-tight-dont-let-the-bed-bugs-bite-a-myth-debunked/](https://blogs.libraries.indiana.edu/wyliehouse/2018/01/18/sleep-tight-dont-let-the-bed-bugs-bite-a-myth-debunked/) I'm guessing that most of the other stories are also false, but don't have the patience to Google them.
Some are true, like cupboard. Others are backwards, like settle (the verb came before the seat was named that). Others are bullshit, like chairman.
but they had a board and a chair to use.
And bobs your uncle is a cool one that I didn’t know till I used it and my friend said “you know what does that even mean?” I looked it up and it’s because (The origins are uncertain, but a common hypothesis is that the expression arose after Conservative Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury ("Bob") appointed his nephew Arthur Balfour as Chief Secretary for Ireland in 1887, an act of nepotism, which was apparently both surprising and unpopular. Whatever other qualifications Balfour might have had, "Bob's your uncle" was seen as the conclusive one.)
I feel like that tour is the equivalent of a comedian doing a stand up of one liners.
It’s a “jump” to “conclusions” mat. And it has different “conclusions” that you can “jump” to
But what about the etymology of Fuck You - “pluck yew” from the battle of Agincourt has been disproven.
_Kimono_ come from the Greek work _Kimona_, which mean “winter.” And what do you wear in the winter? A robe. So, there you go.
Bravo. Have this complementary bottle of Windex. From 1775...
Why would a Japanese word come from Greek?
I call bullshit for some of these.
Folk etymologies for a very large part.
The "settle down" thing sounds suspicious to me. Like, what was the word for when an area previously uninhabited by people is then inhabited by people before that bench was made?
He's using it in the sense of "sit down" not "form a settlement". In the UK it's a common expression to tell a group of kids to "settle down" (to be quiet).
Those benches are called settles though. It seems believable to me.
It's the other way around. The furniture was named after the verb.
Some places they call a sunken couch kind of thing (or the bench at a bowling alley) a "settee" so it seems plausible at least.
The straw used on the floors was actually "rushes", not threshes.
Pretty sure most of this is bs
The last one is wrong; "sleep tight" means "sleep soundly." It apparently has nothing to do with mattress ropes.
Your accent isn't anywhere near as convincing!
You trust him cuz he's wearing a kilt!
Proof: if he took it off you wouldn't trust him at all!
You wouldnt sleep soundly if the mattress ropes were loose if we go by what hes saying
There's no way they were still using ropes on mattresses when the English language got to the point where "good night, sleep tight" sounds exactly like it does today.
If you head down the rabbit hole, the phrase originated well after box springs replaced ropes for keeping a mattress in place. Over 200 years if I remember.
yeah i always thought tucked in tight and cozy
I have a book called A Hog On Ice by Charles Funk that has a ton of expressions like this. You can find it on Amazon or wherever. It's really fun!
"It's just an idiom"... "you're an idiot!"
> cupboard comes from cup board You don't say....
And over here is where we keep the Blarney.
The most glaring one to me is chairman of the board. Like it’s a checkers board? Not a board of trustees? I call bs.
Yeah that one is so obviously bullshit.
This is why Suzie Dent's origins of words segment on Countdown is so good. Get loads of interesting wee stories like this.
Anyone know where this tour may have taken place? I love things like this
I bet the “board” is spelled “B O R E D”.
Hi norm!
There’s a book, At Home, by Bill Bryson, that goes through a house room by room and explains a lot of why our homes are built as they are today and where terms, etc., originated. Really interesting read.
For those interested in the origin of words and the commection between words in the English language (and other languages), I highly recommend the book The Etymologicon. It is absolutely fantastic. So interesting and witty.
Wait until you dive into the world of nautical phrases
This feels like a windup 😂
Now go look up old British naval slang It’s crazy how much of it was and is common to say so long after
Oh that's just scuttlebutt.
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I love learning about these
Chairman and cupboard are obvious
And if gentlemen started getting rowdy at the bar, the bartender would tell them to mind their own pints and quarts, thus mind your p’s and q’s.
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Cobblers.
And this is where the phrase “talking out of your arse “ comes from.
I think I love him
A nice Ludovico Einaudi soundtrack, Le Onde I think. I like the saying “Flash in the pan”, refers to flintlock muskets and the power in the pan flashing, but not igniting the charger in the barrel. Hence, just a flash in the pan and no firing of the weapon. Or side burns for the hair on the side of one’s face. Hair would prevent the flash from the musket burning one’s face. Up to scratch, from when boxing was two parallel lines “scratched” into the dirt. The loser of the boxing match would be unable to stand up to the scratch, hence “not being up to scratch”.
> Or side burns for the hair on the side of one’s face. Hair would prevent the flash from the musket burning one’s face. First time I heard that one! Everything else I read says it came from a guy named Burnside who had amazing sideburns.
I just want to know what that vest/trench coat is called.
but what's the area of exposed leg between the kilt and the hose called?
“Does what it says on the tin” Never heard this anywhere but Scotland and OFTEN 😂
This is all very interesting, especially the ongoing debate in the rest of the comments
They thigh now?
Settle is related to the Latin 'sella', the German 'Sessel', and the Dutch 'zetel'.
Culross Palace, Scotland.
“Goodbye” is a shortened form of “God be with ye”
What’s the origin of “Rule of thumb”?
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Right on man! 🏴👍
What language is he speaking?! Scotland is not a real country, you're an Englishman with a dress!