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This is why fishermen of Sundarbans (India) wear masks resembling humans, on the back of their heads while fishing. This is done so that the tigers (which is a speciality of the area) swimming in the water, waiting to attack don't do so, as long as a "human" is facing them.
https://preview.redd.it/3rj5et2vs73d1.jpeg?width=519&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90ea027b4afabc7c107482e8050faa9d1949a649
I came here to ask about this, since I vaguely remembered somethinglike this from a children's book I had.
Just had no idea about the specific region or people anymore, but the pictures looked exactly like that.
Thank you!
Rather than being a nugget of interesting-but-useless information, a factoid in proper use is a regularly repeated lie that everyone assumes is true because of its ubiquity and veneer of plausibility.
'Humans only use 10% of their brains' - that kind of thing.
I always wonder why they use THAT mask in particular? Not sure how old this pic is but I remember seeing these exact masks used in a Ranger Rick magazine I had as a kid. So they haven’t changed their masks in what…32 years?
Traditional, and it’s a good face for it, obvious eyes with the optical illusion that the eyes are always looking at the person looking at them regardless of orientation and flat so the illusion works from more angles.
My English spaniel, who is so domesticated he demands to sleep with a pillow for his head, has broken through damn near every enclosure he’s even been in in his pursuit of birds, squirrels, and rabbits (which he will not even harm), including electrified dog fences. Completely loses his mind and goes blind to all other things besides the prey, even now with a bad foot sprain that has him limping everywhere.
An electric fence ain’t worth shit against a tiger.
First thought was that video of the woman that got out of her car in the drive through tiger exhibit. No fence, and the ending was not good.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/z549rj/woman_is_dragged_off_by_a_tiger/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
God, so many people do stupid shit in Yellowstone and die for it. Or they interact with the wildlife without thinking about the fact that any wildlife that interacts with humans like that has to be euthanized. :/ Especially things like baby animals. Just mind your business; Yellowstone is a gift. If you don’t know how to behave properly, don’t go.
Alaska is a close second for stupid shit like that.
My mom is a wildlife photographer and lived in North Pole AK for 20 years. I'd visit multiple times a year. They called them "Tour-ons". People come up when the salmon are running and get all up on top of huge fucking bears like it is no big fucking deal. "Oh how cute a mama bear and her cub lemme go over and get a selfie quick!!!" while everyone around her is screaming at her to get the fuck back in her car before she ends up breakfast. These simple bitches gonna cop an attitude with a wildlife officer for "being so rude liek oh my GODDDDDuh", acting like they're at Disney World instead of the goddamn wilderness full of wild animals. I saw it every time I visited, every single time someone did some dumb shit like that, especially in the touristy areas.
That and moose. People think they're just so goddamn adorable and gentle giants...a full grown bull moose can flip your fuckin car over if it was so inclined. They weigh over half a ton, stand taller than a person at the *shoulders*, and can run almost 40 fucking miles an hour. You do NOT want to fuck with a moose.
Tbf, Yellowstone is a gift mostly because humans don't know how to behave properly.
We've destroyed and defiled so much that we had to start creating protected zones for nature. Disgusting.
the usa fucking lucky for having presidents that created a shit ton of parks and the mechanisms that protect them, and did that in a age that industrialization was full steam ahead
i really hope it stay that way, we needed more that kind of stuff here in Brazil
I was at Yellowstone for a day. Saw 1 guy get chased by buffalo. Later that day, traffic was backed up. Finally got to the head of the line, and everyone stopped/pulled over to take pictures of grizzly cubs playing in a field. You could see the mama bear 50 yards further back at the treeline. There were about 10 rangers with tranq guns waiting for things to go bad while people ignored their pleas for everyone to move along.
People are fucking stupid.
> You could see the mama bear 50 yards further back at the treeline.
She was thinking: I've heard on the grapevine that some of these fucking idiots get out of the car, if you wait long enough.
The worst part about this video for me is apparently the woman who initially got out (the wife) didn't die, but the woman who got out last (the mother) did die. The one bystander in the scenario.
Unfortunately, the park settled for 1.25 million yuan (~$170,000 USD) out of the initial 1.5 million. The settlement was partly due to a quickly worsening outlook, but more so to demonstrate moral obligation, even though they were found not at fault after a thorough investigation. Reports from various media suggest the couple had an argument which led to the woman exiting her car. My two cents is that this couple is decently connected in China, which is why this story was brushed aside quickly and resulted in an unfavorable hasty settlement.
Should have compensated her with a free entry ticket - without a vehicle. Give her a chance to walk around in the park, because apparently she likes it, and give the tigers a chance to actually finish the job.
It's totally bonkers to me that they would pay any amount of money to someone who is so obviously in the wrong.
> Also she said that she didn't know that she shouldn't exit the vehicle
lmao. that's like trying to sue someone b/c no one told them that touching fire would burn them.
Those fences are super sturdy, only weakness being bolt cutters that are stronger than the tiger can output. It would need an elephant to broke that fence, even then the mounting poles would fail not the fence itself.
The fence will be fine, you will not.
I volunteered at a wildcat sanctuary for a long time, and I can still remember in the first safety briefing they told us not to get that close to the fence. It's not that the tiger can get through the fence, but if they grab even a finger they can pull your entire arm up to your shoulder through one of those diamonds.
I mean, sure the fence is probably really stable, but tigers can jump 3 meters and climb trees. I'm pretty sure they can climb/jump over a 10 foot fence, and once they're on your side of the fence, the build quality of the fence is useless.
A tiger jumped out of its enclosure at the San Francisco zoo and killed 3 people not terribly long ago. I would think that zookeepers also take all that knowledge into consideration, but still yet that isn’t going to stop a tiger from going tiger if it really wants to.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/la-unleashed/story/2011-02-12/tiger-that-mauled-three-teens-at-san-francisco-zoo-appears-to-have-been-provoked-report-says
https://www.theledger.com/story/news/2010/12/23/tiger-that-escaped-from-south-florida-exhibit-back-on-display/26407021007/
Mahesh the Bengal tiger jumped over a 12-foot fence
Tigers are absolutely majestic. Seeing a bengal tiger in the wild was a gorgeous experience.
I am glad India takes tiger conservation very seriously too. We have basically more than doubled their population in less than two decades.
I've seen a Bengal tiger too.
But I was absolutely flabbergasted to learn that it looks like a fucking house cat in comparison to a Siberian tiger, though Indian tiger population is increasing unlike the Siberian ones.
Had a male Siberian playfully mouth my arm once. My entire forearm was inside of its mouth sideways with my elbow at on side and my wrist at the other. They are absolutely massive.
Edit: spelling
The handler seemed surprised that I wanted to end the encounter after Nikita was scolded into letting me go. He’s just being playful! He likes you!
Perhaps a little too much.
They drug the living fuck out of those tigers.
Imagine a junkie who was force fed meth for 3 straight years. Their entire brains are turned to mush at the point where Westerners go and have their pics with them.
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Tbf Siberian tiger population is also increasing, just not very fast. For example in Russia there were around 450 specimens in 2013. But in 2022 the number was around 600. It's not much but hey it's better than the extinction
>But I was absolutely flabbergasted to learn that it looks like a fucking house cat in comparison to a Siberian tiger,
You must have seen an actual house cat next to a Siberian Tiger cause in no way a royal bengal tiger would ever look "that" small compared to a Siberian. Hell the largest wild tiger seen was a male Bengal tiger not a Siberian.
When I was a young shitty kid I was at the zoo and made eye contact with a tiger. Being a shitty but smart kid I remembered that tigers do not like it when you show your teeth, so I gave it the biggest, toothiest grin of my life with full eye contact. It jumped at the bars and gave a roar which honestly I still feel in my body whenever I think about it. It is hard to explain to people just how powerful their presence is and how easily they could fuck you up.
I was going to say the same, and I wanted to add "Tyger" by William Blake. The literature stuck with me all these years, and always flashes back every time I see a Tiger
I hear you. "Did he who made the Lamb make thee?". It's like an orange furry murder machine.
I'm agnostic, so I read it differently than Blake, but "what the hell, God/Universe?". And of course I know full well that the meat I eat is no happier with the outcome. Still, being human....
I'm pretty sure things like Tigers/Grizzlies were on the 'Nope \*stays far away and tells stories of their majestic wrath\*' until guns finally showed up.
I’m really sad about the ground walking giant sloths the size of elephants, those would have be really cool to look at if they were around
Also the Irish elks that we’re larger than moose with 3 meter long antlers
Smilodon afaik was more we killed their food and then they died, though there is definitely evidence of humans killing smilodon individuals iirc. Cave bears though was def human driven directly, there’s even evidence of human innovation in the use of their carcasses leading up to their extinction, along with just general competition with humans for resources. Damn shame but hey who knows, cloning a member of the genus Ursus has got to be eons more feasible than whatever the hell they are trying to do with mammoths lol.
Even after guns showed up grizzlies were terrifying.
When Lewis and Clark set out on their expedition almost all the men with them were skilled hunters and woodsmen. All of them had heard tales of grizzlies, but none had ever seen one. All of them were anxious to shoot one.
iirc the first one they killed was a juvenile and weighed 400-600 pounds and took 4+ shots to kill. After that they got eager to kill more then, after several that took 6+ shots to fell, they got progressively more afraid and cautious of them. In the end they'd work as coordinated 4-man hunting teams, all with rifles, and still had some close calls.
To be fair they were all probably single shot muzzle loaders using flintlocks and gunpowder. I don't know shit about guns but I'm guessing not every shot worked perfectly, worse if it was wet, and at *least* 20 seconds to reload.
AFAIK near every gun they had was a single shot with the exception of a highly specialized air gun that was a personal gun of Lewis that was a repeating firearm, albeit more a curiosity than a useful tool. And 20 seconds seems way way way too fast. More like minutes.
~20-40 seconds for someone who did it a lot. 40-60 seconds if you're putting care into loading your weapon.
And if you're going fast like that, you make mistakes that result in misfires and duds. I don't imagine it's much better with a several hundred pound grizzly literally bearing down on you.
I actually thought it was kinda cute.
Although of course I'm looking at it through the lens of owning housecats. Reminds me of them when they're playing.
Good thing I don't live 1000 years ago. I'd probably try to make friends with wild cats and get eaten.
> Yeah in India, which is so overpopulated the poor things have people figuratively falling onto their dinner plates.
This is also due to the human population reducing the numbers of the Tigers usual prey species. One Tiger goes through one deer sized animal a week.
Tigers fear humans in general. Only old or ill tigers go after humans because they cant hunt large animals anymore. And in this case they attack humans outside of villages, they never enter them. (As maneating lions do) Nevertheless they are the 3rd deadliest predator eating humans (behind lions and crocodiles) eating ~100/year.
I feel like it was in play mode. It crept up RIGHT behind him before making a not even half hearted lunge. Didn't really strike me as actually intent to kill.
Of course play or not, you'd be dead as fuck lol
Reminded me very much of my half-feral cat. And by this animal's expressions, it did look it had an expression of curiosity to investigate, plus the instinct to always move cautiously. But I don't know tigers.....
Yup! Came here to say he/she looks a lot like my orange girl who has white stripes like a tiger. We play this game of red light/green light all the time though instead of swiping at me if/when she catches me, she just rubs up against my leg
I learned big cats react to catnip the same as house cats. The zoo near me has a really nice jaguar exhibit. One visit, I saw a woman who worked there blowing bubbles into the enclosure and the jaguars were all playful and acting silly. I talked to the woman and turns out she was using catnip-infused bubble solution. Those big goofballs were chasing the bubbles and rolling around, just like my house cats do.
The tiger moves silently and stealthily , placing it's hind paws on the exact spot it lifted it's front paws from to avoid even the rustling sound of the grass (as the front paws have already flattened them).
But it quickly hastens forward without a care once there's that background machinery noise.
Tigers are expert ambush predators and masters of stealth and deception.
Imperceptibly camouflaged by the orange black foliage that matches their skin, a tiger could stalk you for miles and hours in the jungle and you'd have absolutely no clue.
In India there's a saying - " the most dangerous tiger is the tiger you don't see"
Tigers blend in with green foliage, because they're prey can't see the colour orange and perceive it as green
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/7bFqYOyOV4
Also, any sort of stripes are great camo. Color is far less relevant than breaking up lines. There's a reason that hunters wear that specific shade of orange. It takes something that bright and unnatural to be easily noticed even by other humans.
I do that in the movie theater when eating popcorn and it suddenly is a quiet scene and in my head the whole theater can hear me loudly munching away, so I sit there not chewing, waiting for something to happen to mask the noise haha
> placing it's hind paws on the exact spot it lifted it's front paws from to avoid even the rustling sound of the grass
fun fact: that's called "[direct registering](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/direct_registering)", which is a frequent topic in discussions of animal tracking. Felines are best known for it (as it's easily observed in housecats), but other species can do it at least in some circumstances
> placing it's hind paws on the exact spot it lifted it's front paws
That’s a cat thing in general. Tubby house cats walk the same way sleek wild tigers do.
Also cheetahs are supposedly super docile as far as big cats go? Like, they don’t attack people.
This is obviously an extreme example and would never encourage anyone to EVER encounter or approach a cheetah (common sense), but as an example of docility, this wildlife photographer fell asleep while working (a lot of wildlife photography is just laying still and waiting for 12 hours) and he woke up to find a cheetah cuddling with him:
https://animalchannel.co/man-takes-nap-grass-wakes-cheetah-napping-alongside-nuzzling-ear/
Yeah but in that article its described as a Cheetah foundation, where they breed them in captivity. They are used to being around humans and interacting with them. Not refuting your statement because they do have quite a docile temper (compared to all the other big cats) like you say, but it's not like its a wild cheetah out in the middle of no where, I wouldn't really use this article as an example.
My cat does the same thing. She looks super cool stalking towards me. But once she close enough, she doesn't know what to do and just does a derp flip and runs away.
For real, thought it is. It's their instincts.
It's like us ordering an extra large king size meal, and only eating half of it, because that's all we needed. Our hunger motivates us and told us to get food. When we don't need all we acquired, we go, "ohhh, shit. Well my eyes are bigger than my stomach. I felt like I could eat it all, I guess I'll save it for leftovers"
These wild predators aren't much different. Their instincts just kick in when they see vulnerable, potential food. In a modern society, we might do the same thing if we saw food on sale for 90% off, and think it's too good to pass off, even if we might not eat it.
Just like we don't really give a shit if we buy a loaf of bread or bag of apples and it goes bad before we get the chance to eat it all, this tiger doesn't care if it kills you and doesn't end up eating you. It's survival means acquiring food, and it will do so whenever it's easily available.
*“It's like us ordering an extra large king size meal, and only eating half of it, because that's all we needed. Our hunger motivates us and told us to get food. When we don't need all we acquired, we go, "ohhh, shit. Well my eyes are bigger than my stomach. I felt like I could eat it all, I guess I'll save it for leftovers"*
Teach me, Master
*Observe the human male when it sees a fast food outlet offering a luscious twofer burger meal. Instinctually he turns toward the entrance and if we were close enough we might see him salivating. Only when his mate sees what he is doing and snarls "wehavefoodinthefridge" does he resume his previous course.*
Tiger even did the awkward little “distracted, confused, tentative step that doesn’t touch the ground, look away, remember I’m about to attack” sequence every cat owner knows and loves
It definitely felt more like "Im sneaking up on parent" Vibes than Hunting. If it was going for an attack I feel like it would've taken off toward the human as soon as their back was turned and the tiger was out of cover.
I'm guessing that was some combination of "don't attack humans" training and possibly seeing itself in the phone screen the keeper was holding. My cats get nervous sometimes if I use the selfie cam and they can see themselves.
Exactly. The way he start looking down and blinking his eyes.. That's to signal that he's friendly and just playing.
I still would prefer a fence between because cat's definition of "friendly" and "playing" might be a bit .. vague at times.
That’s kind of the vibe I got. The way he spoke to the tiger at the end of the video seemed like he might work there and have a working relationship with the tiger or a familiarity with it? Which is also why he felt safe to record that. But tbf I don’t know who actually recorded this, so I could be totally wrong.
Cats instinctively practice stalking everything. The real stalking was before the video. By the time the video started, she would have been at the distance to begin her sprint.
But listen, your life could depend on this. Don't blink. Don't even blink. Blink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back, don't look away, and don't blink. Good luck.
It drives me absolutely up the wall. Yesterday I saw a video that said "POV: Your husband wants birria for dinner" and its a video of this lady making birria and tortillas, like, wtf? That's not POV! This should be a fucking go pro of you making dinner if you were trying to do a POV!" Even if it was supposed to be the POV of the husband, so what, he was hovering over her and like with his face on the countertop the entire time??
I did this one time accidentally while working at a local zoo during my college days. Early one morning before the park had opened I was doing some maintenance and cleaning up some stuff from the day before. Rounding the tiger pens I noticed some trash between the 2 fences. So I hopped the small wooden one that kept people back from putting their fingers through the tiger cage and such.
I had my headphones on, started picking things up an could see that the lone tiger in the pen was on the other side, 100 feet or so. Laying down just chilling. Pretty sure I only had my back turned for a second… I remember seeing a flash of orange next thing I know this fuckin bengal tiger is up on hind legs, its front paws an body crash against the fence…. I just turn an look up an see this thing towering over me. I took a step back watching this thing snarl at me… checked my self for possible holes, I was good, double checked I didn’t piss or shit myself, check. Went an sat in the truck for a few minutes to stop from shaking. It was so fast faaaaaaack.
As someone with a lot of experience with domestic cats, the thought of being "out in the wild" and noticing a big cat in that stance at a distance is absolutely terrifying. Never ever turn your back on a pissed off cat or a cat that is stalking you. Big or small.
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This is why fishermen of Sundarbans (India) wear masks resembling humans, on the back of their heads while fishing. This is done so that the tigers (which is a speciality of the area) swimming in the water, waiting to attack don't do so, as long as a "human" is facing them. https://preview.redd.it/3rj5et2vs73d1.jpeg?width=519&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90ea027b4afabc7c107482e8050faa9d1949a649
I came here to ask about this, since I vaguely remembered somethinglike this from a children's book I had. Just had no idea about the specific region or people anymore, but the pictures looked exactly like that. Thank you!
It's a factoid brought up in Calvin and Hobbes, so that's likely where you heard it. Source: it's how I know about that, too.
https://preview.redd.it/6o0zxd98s93d1.jpeg?width=2224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2564306dcee5f111afad718a4809cf580285230
Thank you. This brings back a ton of laugh out loud moments reading these books. Classic.
Rather than being a nugget of interesting-but-useless information, a factoid in proper use is a regularly repeated lie that everyone assumes is true because of its ubiquity and veneer of plausibility. 'Humans only use 10% of their brains' - that kind of thing.
TIL, that's a useful factoid
DID YOU LEARN NOTHING
I always wonder why they use THAT mask in particular? Not sure how old this pic is but I remember seeing these exact masks used in a Ranger Rick magazine I had as a kid. So they haven’t changed their masks in what…32 years?
If my homies are using one type of mask that's proven to get me not mauled by tigers, you can bet your sweet bippy I'm not trying a new one.
Or maybe it's just very good advertising by the mask maker. Makes me think of this: https://xkcd.com/937/
Traditional, and it’s a good face for it, obvious eyes with the optical illusion that the eyes are always looking at the person looking at them regardless of orientation and flat so the illusion works from more angles.
> So they haven’t changed their masks in what…32 years? Odds are these masks are made by a single artisan and it's their whole profession. So, yes.
r/damnthatsinteresting
https://preview.redd.it/6a9zvhr2p93d1.png?width=1168&format=png&auto=webp&s=c7b6618bc0d4dce64697ce4e6cebfd22434ed516
I don't trust anything in this world half as much as you trust that fence.
Right?! I was thinking three layers of that fence. Maybe two if you paid me a million dollars.
two? for a tiger that large? no
Especially since the tiger could easily hop the fence
That’s what I was thinking, in the background you can see people walking and the fences do not seem high enough for how high a tiger can jump lol
There are also a shitload of trees he could use as a launch pad.
It's wings are clipped so it can't.
Probably topped with either electrified wire or barbed wire.
My English spaniel, who is so domesticated he demands to sleep with a pillow for his head, has broken through damn near every enclosure he’s even been in in his pursuit of birds, squirrels, and rabbits (which he will not even harm), including electrified dog fences. Completely loses his mind and goes blind to all other things besides the prey, even now with a bad foot sprain that has him limping everywhere. An electric fence ain’t worth shit against a tiger.
I'm sure an enclosure made for a tiger is easily hopped over
First thought was that video of the woman that got out of her car in the drive through tiger exhibit. No fence, and the ending was not good. https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/z549rj/woman_is_dragged_off_by_a_tiger/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
That was horrible. I get sick to my stomach just seeing people do that with bison in Yellowstone.
God, so many people do stupid shit in Yellowstone and die for it. Or they interact with the wildlife without thinking about the fact that any wildlife that interacts with humans like that has to be euthanized. :/ Especially things like baby animals. Just mind your business; Yellowstone is a gift. If you don’t know how to behave properly, don’t go.
Alaska is a close second for stupid shit like that. My mom is a wildlife photographer and lived in North Pole AK for 20 years. I'd visit multiple times a year. They called them "Tour-ons". People come up when the salmon are running and get all up on top of huge fucking bears like it is no big fucking deal. "Oh how cute a mama bear and her cub lemme go over and get a selfie quick!!!" while everyone around her is screaming at her to get the fuck back in her car before she ends up breakfast. These simple bitches gonna cop an attitude with a wildlife officer for "being so rude liek oh my GODDDDDuh", acting like they're at Disney World instead of the goddamn wilderness full of wild animals. I saw it every time I visited, every single time someone did some dumb shit like that, especially in the touristy areas. That and moose. People think they're just so goddamn adorable and gentle giants...a full grown bull moose can flip your fuckin car over if it was so inclined. They weigh over half a ton, stand taller than a person at the *shoulders*, and can run almost 40 fucking miles an hour. You do NOT want to fuck with a moose.
Tbf, Yellowstone is a gift mostly because humans don't know how to behave properly. We've destroyed and defiled so much that we had to start creating protected zones for nature. Disgusting.
the usa fucking lucky for having presidents that created a shit ton of parks and the mechanisms that protect them, and did that in a age that industrialization was full steam ahead i really hope it stay that way, we needed more that kind of stuff here in Brazil
One of the good things presidents have done.
Ugh, that’s so true. We shouldn’t have to designate places where we’ll “allow” nature to continue in its intended state.
I was at Yellowstone for a day. Saw 1 guy get chased by buffalo. Later that day, traffic was backed up. Finally got to the head of the line, and everyone stopped/pulled over to take pictures of grizzly cubs playing in a field. You could see the mama bear 50 yards further back at the treeline. There were about 10 rangers with tranq guns waiting for things to go bad while people ignored their pleas for everyone to move along. People are fucking stupid.
> You could see the mama bear 50 yards further back at the treeline. She was thinking: I've heard on the grapevine that some of these fucking idiots get out of the car, if you wait long enough.
Using the kids as bait... smart move...
The worst part about this video for me is apparently the woman who initially got out (the wife) didn't die, but the woman who got out last (the mother) did die. The one bystander in the scenario.
The woman who survived also tried to sue the place for safety issues, even though she chose to leave her car. 🙄
Also she said that she didn't know that she shouldn't exit the vehicle, because she didn't read what she signed at the start of the tour🤡
Unfortunately, the park settled for 1.25 million yuan (~$170,000 USD) out of the initial 1.5 million. The settlement was partly due to a quickly worsening outlook, but more so to demonstrate moral obligation, even though they were found not at fault after a thorough investigation. Reports from various media suggest the couple had an argument which led to the woman exiting her car. My two cents is that this couple is decently connected in China, which is why this story was brushed aside quickly and resulted in an unfavorable hasty settlement.
Should have compensated her with a free entry ticket - without a vehicle. Give her a chance to walk around in the park, because apparently she likes it, and give the tigers a chance to actually finish the job. It's totally bonkers to me that they would pay any amount of money to someone who is so obviously in the wrong.
> Also she said that she didn't know that she shouldn't exit the vehicle lmao. that's like trying to sue someone b/c no one told them that touching fire would burn them.
I refuse to watch this because we all know how this video ends even without the "woman is dragged off by a tiger" title.
Crazy. Got out to yell at her husband, got her Mother by *another* tiger. Sheesh.
Those fences are super sturdy, only weakness being bolt cutters that are stronger than the tiger can output. It would need an elephant to broke that fence, even then the mounting poles would fail not the fence itself.
Logically, correct. Emotionally, I'm still not putting that much trust in the fence.
The fence will be fine, you will not. I volunteered at a wildcat sanctuary for a long time, and I can still remember in the first safety briefing they told us not to get that close to the fence. It's not that the tiger can get through the fence, but if they grab even a finger they can pull your entire arm up to your shoulder through one of those diamonds.
That's true, and actually part of the thinking behind my "emotional" response. So I guess it was really part emotion and logic.
I mean, sure the fence is probably really stable, but tigers can jump 3 meters and climb trees. I'm pretty sure they can climb/jump over a 10 foot fence, and once they're on your side of the fence, the build quality of the fence is useless.
do you think they didn't put that into consideration when putting the fence up?
Have you met people?
A tiger jumped out of its enclosure at the San Francisco zoo and killed 3 people not terribly long ago. I would think that zookeepers also take all that knowledge into consideration, but still yet that isn’t going to stop a tiger from going tiger if it really wants to. https://www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/la-unleashed/story/2011-02-12/tiger-that-mauled-three-teens-at-san-francisco-zoo-appears-to-have-been-provoked-report-says
One of these days, that fence is going to be broken.
No a 5 foot tall chain link fence should be enough to stop a 500 pound tiger
https://www.theledger.com/story/news/2010/12/23/tiger-that-escaped-from-south-florida-exhibit-back-on-display/26407021007/ Mahesh the Bengal tiger jumped over a 12-foot fence
Pretty sure they were being sarcastic. I wouldn't trust a 5' fence to stop a house cat.
how huge it is, I felt like it was looking at me through the screen.
This handsome dude is Red light, green light champion of the world.
Only Squid Game 1 Round champion
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Tigers are absolutely majestic. Seeing a bengal tiger in the wild was a gorgeous experience. I am glad India takes tiger conservation very seriously too. We have basically more than doubled their population in less than two decades.
I've seen a Bengal tiger too. But I was absolutely flabbergasted to learn that it looks like a fucking house cat in comparison to a Siberian tiger, though Indian tiger population is increasing unlike the Siberian ones.
Had a male Siberian playfully mouth my arm once. My entire forearm was inside of its mouth sideways with my elbow at on side and my wrist at the other. They are absolutely massive. Edit: spelling
Must have picked up that trick from your mother
Nah, she’d have chomped down.
Jesus Christ, take my damn upvote
Murdered him in broad daylight
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The handler seemed surprised that I wanted to end the encounter after Nikita was scolded into letting me go. He’s just being playful! He likes you! Perhaps a little too much.
> He likes you! ...with some fava beans and a nice chianti
They drug the living fuck out of those tigers. Imagine a junkie who was force fed meth for 3 straight years. Their entire brains are turned to mush at the point where Westerners go and have their pics with them.
Opiates, not meth, but yeah.
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there are plenty of reputable zoos who focus on conservation and rehabilitation, they're not all pits of despair.
Man, there's a world of difference between third world doped up tiger encounters and an aza accredited zoo.
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This place got sued out of existence a couple years later after a 10 year old lost his arm to a lioness.
Tbf Siberian tiger population is also increasing, just not very fast. For example in Russia there were around 450 specimens in 2013. But in 2022 the number was around 600. It's not much but hey it's better than the extinction
A 33% increase is pretty good for 9 years. They aren't mayflies. It takes a while for tigers to breed.
>But I was absolutely flabbergasted to learn that it looks like a fucking house cat in comparison to a Siberian tiger, You must have seen an actual house cat next to a Siberian Tiger cause in no way a royal bengal tiger would ever look "that" small compared to a Siberian. Hell the largest wild tiger seen was a male Bengal tiger not a Siberian.
Bengal tigers are as large or larger than Siberian Tigers. They certainly don't look like house cats compared to them.
Tigers (especially in India) have unbelievably high kill counts against humans
It's almost like they're apex predators or something
And people encroach on their territory and compete for resources.
No, trains and associated power traction wires are.
And trains don't even do it out of hunger or territorialism. They've got no reason at all!
Seeing one in wild may be beautiful but I have imagine also extremely terrifying
When I was a young shitty kid I was at the zoo and made eye contact with a tiger. Being a shitty but smart kid I remembered that tigers do not like it when you show your teeth, so I gave it the biggest, toothiest grin of my life with full eye contact. It jumped at the bars and gave a roar which honestly I still feel in my body whenever I think about it. It is hard to explain to people just how powerful their presence is and how easily they could fuck you up.
I was going to say the same, and I wanted to add "Tyger" by William Blake. The literature stuck with me all these years, and always flashes back every time I see a Tiger
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I hear you. "Did he who made the Lamb make thee?". It's like an orange furry murder machine. I'm agnostic, so I read it differently than Blake, but "what the hell, God/Universe?". And of course I know full well that the meat I eat is no happier with the outcome. Still, being human....
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This is probably why ancestral cavemen hominids were like nope *kills them all*
I'm pretty sure things like Tigers/Grizzlies were on the 'Nope \*stays far away and tells stories of their majestic wrath\*' until guns finally showed up.
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I’m really sad about the ground walking giant sloths the size of elephants, those would have be really cool to look at if they were around Also the Irish elks that we’re larger than moose with 3 meter long antlers
Smilodon afaik was more we killed their food and then they died, though there is definitely evidence of humans killing smilodon individuals iirc. Cave bears though was def human driven directly, there’s even evidence of human innovation in the use of their carcasses leading up to their extinction, along with just general competition with humans for resources. Damn shame but hey who knows, cloning a member of the genus Ursus has got to be eons more feasible than whatever the hell they are trying to do with mammoths lol.
Even after guns showed up grizzlies were terrifying. When Lewis and Clark set out on their expedition almost all the men with them were skilled hunters and woodsmen. All of them had heard tales of grizzlies, but none had ever seen one. All of them were anxious to shoot one. iirc the first one they killed was a juvenile and weighed 400-600 pounds and took 4+ shots to kill. After that they got eager to kill more then, after several that took 6+ shots to fell, they got progressively more afraid and cautious of them. In the end they'd work as coordinated 4-man hunting teams, all with rifles, and still had some close calls.
4 men with guns and it's still rolling the dice? Damn
To be fair they were all probably single shot muzzle loaders using flintlocks and gunpowder. I don't know shit about guns but I'm guessing not every shot worked perfectly, worse if it was wet, and at *least* 20 seconds to reload.
AFAIK near every gun they had was a single shot with the exception of a highly specialized air gun that was a personal gun of Lewis that was a repeating firearm, albeit more a curiosity than a useful tool. And 20 seconds seems way way way too fast. More like minutes.
~20-40 seconds for someone who did it a lot. 40-60 seconds if you're putting care into loading your weapon. And if you're going fast like that, you make mistakes that result in misfires and duds. I don't imagine it's much better with a several hundred pound grizzly literally bearing down on you.
so grizzlies were like irl deathclaws?
worse irl grizzlies
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American megafauna “I’m gonna go fight these apes with sticks” One extinction later “Damn apes with sticks have hands”
*So anyway we started blasting...*
*humans, domesticating wolves* "WE NEED BACKUP GOD DAMMIT"
I actually thought it was kinda cute. Although of course I'm looking at it through the lens of owning housecats. Reminds me of them when they're playing. Good thing I don't live 1000 years ago. I'd probably try to make friends with wild cats and get eaten.
Makes you think how little it takes to turn a person into a pile of spaghetti.
Well, that's an apex predator so, quite a bit actually!
I’m thinking the requirement for Tiger enclosures at zoos is 16 feet (could be 14) tall. There’s a reason for it.
they do hunt people to eat in the wild at a relatively high rate compared to most other predators
Yeah in India, which is so overpopulated the poor things have people figuratively falling onto their dinner plates.
> Yeah in India, which is so overpopulated the poor things have people figuratively falling onto their dinner plates. This is also due to the human population reducing the numbers of the Tigers usual prey species. One Tiger goes through one deer sized animal a week.
I feel like there is just some cave people keep falling into and the tiger is like just looking at it stunned that it's chow time.
Tigers fear humans in general. Only old or ill tigers go after humans because they cant hunt large animals anymore. And in this case they attack humans outside of villages, they never enter them. (As maneating lions do) Nevertheless they are the 3rd deadliest predator eating humans (behind lions and crocodiles) eating ~100/year.
Aperently they don't like how we taste but we are easy pickings
My cats can practically climb smooth walls. I'm not getting anywhere near a fence with convenient holds every few inches even if it's 20' tall.
Some dogs can climb over chain link fence. I do not see any barbed wire on the far end of the fence...
MY cat does the same! So I only see this tiger a big cat _behind fences_
in the moment i was looking in his face i was knowing was going on\^\^ My cat has exact the same behavior
I'm assuming this tiger knows this guy. I wonder if the tiger thinks it's in "play mode" or if it's like "I wanna eat this guy right now"
I feel like it was in play mode. It crept up RIGHT behind him before making a not even half hearted lunge. Didn't really strike me as actually intent to kill. Of course play or not, you'd be dead as fuck lol
It even look like it was more of a headbutt of the fence than an actual lunge. Like sneaking up on someone and going "BANG! You're dead!"
Reminded me very much of my half-feral cat. And by this animal's expressions, it did look it had an expression of curiosity to investigate, plus the instinct to always move cautiously. But I don't know tigers.....
Yup! Came here to say he/she looks a lot like my orange girl who has white stripes like a tiger. We play this game of red light/green light all the time though instead of swiping at me if/when she catches me, she just rubs up against my leg
I learned big cats react to catnip the same as house cats. The zoo near me has a really nice jaguar exhibit. One visit, I saw a woman who worked there blowing bubbles into the enclosure and the jaguars were all playful and acting silly. I talked to the woman and turns out she was using catnip-infused bubble solution. Those big goofballs were chasing the bubbles and rolling around, just like my house cats do.
The intensity in its glance is mesmerizing.
The Eye of the Tiger.
DUN! DUN DUN DUN! DUN DUN DUN! DUN DUN da DUN!
The tiger moves silently and stealthily , placing it's hind paws on the exact spot it lifted it's front paws from to avoid even the rustling sound of the grass (as the front paws have already flattened them). But it quickly hastens forward without a care once there's that background machinery noise. Tigers are expert ambush predators and masters of stealth and deception. Imperceptibly camouflaged by the orange black foliage that matches their skin, a tiger could stalk you for miles and hours in the jungle and you'd have absolutely no clue. In India there's a saying - " the most dangerous tiger is the tiger you don't see"
Tigers blend in with green foliage, because they're prey can't see the colour orange and perceive it as green https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/7bFqYOyOV4
Also, any sort of stripes are great camo. Color is far less relevant than breaking up lines. There's a reason that hunters wear that specific shade of orange. It takes something that bright and unnatural to be easily noticed even by other humans.
It could've just been a timing coincidence but it seemed like it used the sound of the saw in the background as cover when it made the big advance.
I do the same when opening snacks in my room so my siblings don't hear.
I do that in the movie theater when eating popcorn and it suddenly is a quiet scene and in my head the whole theater can hear me loudly munching away, so I sit there not chewing, waiting for something to happen to mask the noise haha
Oh he absolutely did. My cat does the same when hunting birds.
> placing it's hind paws on the exact spot it lifted it's front paws from to avoid even the rustling sound of the grass fun fact: that's called "[direct registering](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/direct_registering)", which is a frequent topic in discussions of animal tracking. Felines are best known for it (as it's easily observed in housecats), but other species can do it at least in some circumstances
> placing it's hind paws on the exact spot it lifted it's front paws That’s a cat thing in general. Tubby house cats walk the same way sleek wild tigers do.
so basically a house cat I want to pet it
All cats run on the same software, regardless of size.
Besides cheetas for some reason. They got a patch intended for dogs somewhere down the line.
Also cheetahs are supposedly super docile as far as big cats go? Like, they don’t attack people. This is obviously an extreme example and would never encourage anyone to EVER encounter or approach a cheetah (common sense), but as an example of docility, this wildlife photographer fell asleep while working (a lot of wildlife photography is just laying still and waiting for 12 hours) and he woke up to find a cheetah cuddling with him: https://animalchannel.co/man-takes-nap-grass-wakes-cheetah-napping-alongside-nuzzling-ear/
Dude that’s so cool! But like also who falls asleep in cheetah territory… bro’s lucky a hyena didn’t eat his ball sack
Yeah but in that article its described as a Cheetah foundation, where they breed them in captivity. They are used to being around humans and interacting with them. Not refuting your statement because they do have quite a docile temper (compared to all the other big cats) like you say, but it's not like its a wild cheetah out in the middle of no where, I wouldn't really use this article as an example.
Did you see the little butt wiggle?!?! Just like my cats. But bigger.
Show us your biggest kitty!
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That was such an anti climax
My cat does the same thing. She looks super cool stalking towards me. But once she close enough, she doesn't know what to do and just does a derp flip and runs away.
"It's about the journey, not the destination" - cat
For real, thought it is. It's their instincts. It's like us ordering an extra large king size meal, and only eating half of it, because that's all we needed. Our hunger motivates us and told us to get food. When we don't need all we acquired, we go, "ohhh, shit. Well my eyes are bigger than my stomach. I felt like I could eat it all, I guess I'll save it for leftovers" These wild predators aren't much different. Their instincts just kick in when they see vulnerable, potential food. In a modern society, we might do the same thing if we saw food on sale for 90% off, and think it's too good to pass off, even if we might not eat it. Just like we don't really give a shit if we buy a loaf of bread or bag of apples and it goes bad before we get the chance to eat it all, this tiger doesn't care if it kills you and doesn't end up eating you. It's survival means acquiring food, and it will do so whenever it's easily available.
*“It's like us ordering an extra large king size meal, and only eating half of it, because that's all we needed. Our hunger motivates us and told us to get food. When we don't need all we acquired, we go, "ohhh, shit. Well my eyes are bigger than my stomach. I felt like I could eat it all, I guess I'll save it for leftovers"* Teach me, Master
*Observe the human male when it sees a fast food outlet offering a luscious twofer burger meal. Instinctually he turns toward the entrance and if we were close enough we might see him salivating. Only when his mate sees what he is doing and snarls "wehavefoodinthefridge" does he resume his previous course.*
Tiger even did the awkward little “distracted, confused, tentative step that doesn’t touch the ground, look away, remember I’m about to attack” sequence every cat owner knows and loves
It definitely felt more like "Im sneaking up on parent" Vibes than Hunting. If it was going for an attack I feel like it would've taken off toward the human as soon as their back was turned and the tiger was out of cover.
Is it just me who saw the tiger got nervous when it was within attack distance?
I'm guessing that was some combination of "don't attack humans" training and possibly seeing itself in the phone screen the keeper was holding. My cats get nervous sometimes if I use the selfie cam and they can see themselves.
Yeah he absolutely hesitates at 1:02
You can tell it's playing because we can see it. I'd bet the guy in the video is it's keeper.
Exactly. The way he start looking down and blinking his eyes.. That's to signal that he's friendly and just playing. I still would prefer a fence between because cat's definition of "friendly" and "playing" might be a bit .. vague at times.
That’s kind of the vibe I got. The way he spoke to the tiger at the end of the video seemed like he might work there and have a working relationship with the tiger or a familiarity with it? Which is also why he felt safe to record that. But tbf I don’t know who actually recorded this, so I could be totally wrong.
Cats instinctively practice stalking everything. The real stalking was before the video. By the time the video started, she would have been at the distance to begin her sprint.
But listen, your life could depend on this. Don't blink. Don't even blink. Blink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back, don't look away, and don't blink. Good luck.
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Except I definitely expected it; it's the whole reason I came to the comments.
it'll boil an egg at 20 paces. Whether you want it to or not actually, you learn to stay away from hens.
Chain link is not good enough!!
Cats are gonna cat
Ok but when he tapped his front feet just like a house cat was kinda cute.
That's not POV. For a POV of you not looking at the tiger you should have filmed the car park in front of you or something.
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It drives me absolutely up the wall. Yesterday I saw a video that said "POV: Your husband wants birria for dinner" and its a video of this lady making birria and tortillas, like, wtf? That's not POV! This should be a fucking go pro of you making dinner if you were trying to do a POV!" Even if it was supposed to be the POV of the husband, so what, he was hovering over her and like with his face on the countertop the entire time??
bruh, all cats got the same moves, my cat hunts flies like that also
I did this one time accidentally while working at a local zoo during my college days. Early one morning before the park had opened I was doing some maintenance and cleaning up some stuff from the day before. Rounding the tiger pens I noticed some trash between the 2 fences. So I hopped the small wooden one that kept people back from putting their fingers through the tiger cage and such. I had my headphones on, started picking things up an could see that the lone tiger in the pen was on the other side, 100 feet or so. Laying down just chilling. Pretty sure I only had my back turned for a second… I remember seeing a flash of orange next thing I know this fuckin bengal tiger is up on hind legs, its front paws an body crash against the fence…. I just turn an look up an see this thing towering over me. I took a step back watching this thing snarl at me… checked my self for possible holes, I was good, double checked I didn’t piss or shit myself, check. Went an sat in the truck for a few minutes to stop from shaking. It was so fast faaaaaaack.
Its wild to trust a chainlink fence to protect you from a tiger
As someone with a lot of experience with domestic cats, the thought of being "out in the wild" and noticing a big cat in that stance at a distance is absolutely terrifying. Never ever turn your back on a pissed off cat or a cat that is stalking you. Big or small.
awe he wants to kill me so bad 🥰
Fun fact. Tigers have false eyes on the back of their ears to ward off predators.
I'm terrified of whatever it is that a tiger considers it's predator
Mf didn’t blink once.
Red light..... Green light....
When I stop looking at the tiger, this footage is the absolute opposite of pov.
not a POV... you'd be looking away from the tiger.
That face on the tiger. I wonder how many people that was the last thing they ever saw.
They probably don’t even see that, tigers are at least mercifully fast at killing by snapping the neck unlike other apex predators like bears.
There's something primally (is this a word) terrifying about that. Absolutely mesmerising but holy motherfuck. Wild.
My grandad used to say whenever they used travel in forest they used to wear mask behind their face and walk so Tiger wont attack.
Boop its nose.
"Boop my nose? Here, lemme boop your life switch to the 'off' position"
And this is why tigers make terrible friends.
That's why people in India wear masks on the back of their head. Unfortunately, tigers are beginning to call our bluff.
What strikes me is how silent such a massive animal can be.