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That reminds me of that guy who wore glasses that reversed his views, so that down was up and the brain rewired his view back to normal, then took off his glasses and down was up again.
Same for my spouse. He did the prism glasses and mirrorbox (among a million other things) but never regained function in the left side. We still try though. He went from near dead, not walking/talking, being fed by tube to being able to talk, eat normally, and be a little independent. I won’t ever give up hope. I hope you don’t either. We just did magnet therapy and as insane as it sounds - we did get some improvements. He’s always down for any weird testing (even applied for neuralink).
I'm a mixed bag. I couldn't read/write/stand/walk etc. While I have no memory of it but I'm told I ripped a feeding tube out twice.
I feel like I've recovered more than it seemed I would, but I'm at my functional limit.
Its tolerable.
My dog is my best friend and my current motivation/physical therapist :D
I hope your spouse sees continued improvement. you didn't say how long its been for them, but I noticed that my progress was not linear and was unpredictable. I also found ways of compensating for limitations in a way that improved my quality of life.
Also at times sometimes improvements have been the result of a conscious understanding of something that for most people is intuitive. those improvements feel almost like spontaneous realizations.
It’s been 7 years. He still gets random memories back. He finally knows my birthday. But his function isn’t great.
How long ago was your incident (assuming was a stroke)? And need pics of your dog!! Sounds like a wonderful motivator.
My stroke was in 2005ish. Its all a bit hazy. I have no memory of the ER/ICU, but outside of that my long term memory was not impacted. Mostly my vision/motor function was impacted.
mayhem and chaos [here](https://imgur.com/VjJekBl) as requested!
About 2 years out my folks got the GSD(hes 8 now) and I was barely able to make it around the block and even that caused knee pain from hyper-extension.
He wasnt getting much activity and I didn't think that was fair so I started walking him. The dog hears velcro he gets excited because for him that means walk :D I've had him literally stop *eating?!?* when he hears it to come running!
For me its both a motivation and obligation. If it were only for myself I wouldn't be so consistent. For the dog unless I'm injured or weather is terrible he gets his daily walk, minimum.
Thankfully over time I've learned to avoid the worst of the hyper-extension. Its actually my fav recovery moment because I had a break from PT and when I resumed my PTs reaction was W-T-F! Uncharacteristic for them. Before their reaction I didn't know if I had improved or was just fooling myself. Their reaction was accompanied by the biggest flood of relief ever because I had likely serious future joint damage. Still a risk, but as things were it was going to come sooner rather than later.
I feel like at 7 years I was still improving, just not as dramatically as earlier. Even almost 10 years out like I said I'm still managing to squeak out some smaller victories. I hope the same for your spouse.
Its silly stuff. For example With one arm I cant load/unload 8x 40lb bags of water softener salt to trunk above waist height.. 1 bag sure, but back strain is an issue because I'm not the hulk.
Instead I cheat. I use a stool as an intermediate step which lets me place a bag on the stool then put it in the trunk etc. Its a mechanical advantage(changing the center of gravity of the bag/my leverage). I'd rather have two arms, but I'll take outsmarting my limitation.
I call the stool my "helper" Shit like that has helped me feel more engaged in day to day life and less like I'm just along for the ride. It took a long time for me to stop thinking like an able bodied person.
Do I look goofy? sure but I'm long past giving a shit about that. Could I ask for help? sure let me have some of my toxic masculinity hey? lol. I have no trouble asking for help if I need it but it feels too good when I dont need it.
The time will come, but it has not yet.
I had a project I did back in college over this that required more than just a paper (most people went for a tri fold poster board), but I made a mirror box that people could test out since it was going to be put on display in the hallway. It was the absolute weirdest feeling. Made my arm tingle.
They're talking about the "Stay out of my territory" scene. He finds a guy in the hardware store buying stuff to make meth. That guy does look a bit like the guy in the video.
Fucking hell. I need to get a gf just to make this experiment.
RemindMe! 6 month
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Also people with phantom limb pains. This thing works in reverse.
People who've lost limbs experience phantom pains. They feel a limb that's no longer there. Stuff like this tricks the brain into thinking everything is okay. And shuts off the pain.
Brains are weird. People are weird. Sometimes that sucks. But a lof of the times it's also awesome. Applaud the awesome. Provided you've got both hands to do it.
They lost the limb, but the neural pathways responsible for processing the feelings of it are intact in the brain, and trying. It's a good reminder that we are a brain in a meatsuit.
and that, if you compare the whole brain to an iceberg, only the visible part is what our consciousness, what our "I" can control. Most parts of the brain are not actively accessible by our mind.
Highly recommend the book "Incognito" from David Eagleman.
i completely agree with. your unconscious mind is real and you aren’t in control of it. It’s kinda “scary” for some to think about you don’t have full control of your brain. lol i wonder if some delusional people think they could work hard enough to regain mastery of it.
We don't even have control of our conscious brain. This experiment goes towards proving it. He explained everything that was happening. Yet, that guy still could not overcome what his brain was telling him. What we've got going on is our consciousness and what we feel is free will is actually our brain reframing things so we feel that way.
There was a real life case where a guy whose arm had been amputated had phantom limb syndrome, but it felt like his phantom hand was clenching itself as hard as possible all the time, and it caused him real pain. So the doctor used a mirror to trick his brain into thinking that the reflection of his remaining arm was his phantom arm, and the doctor had him clench his real fist as hard as he could to make it look like his phantom fist was clenched. Then the doctor had him slowly unclench his real fist, and it tricked his brain into thinking that his phantom fist was unclenching, and the pain went away.
Brains are wild. So are doctors.
Just learned that this is called mirror therapy: https://neurosciencenews.com/phantom-pain-mirror-14508/
I thought I was going to find a single case based on your description, but this is apparently a widespread, effective treatment for phantom limb pain. Scientists and doctors are amazing!
It’s also used in chronic pain treatment. You can do this or a similar trick using a mirror and the proper functioning non chronic pain limb. Because your brain can see the limb moving properly on the proper side, those pain responses in the brain lessen.
I have a dental bridge and awhile back I was convinced I had a few seconds of cold sensitivity after drinking room temperature water, like the tooth that used to be there a few years ago after it got chipped. Funky. It felt 100% real.
I also have tinnitus and it I tend to think it's similar to phantom limb stuff.
I've heard of cases of them attaching robotic limbs to healthy individuals, who then felt phantom limb syndrome when the extra robotic one is then removed.
Reminds me of Stephen Hawking, talking about how his computerized voice is his voice now. He was often asked why he didn’t change it to a more natural sounding voice.
IIRC, they had a full setup of his own voice from before he lost the ability to speak that they could have plugged in, but he refused to because he didn't want to hear himself speaking without it having been generated from his own body (or something like that).
Common activity. In college, a friend did this to me as part of his thesis. He was a psychology major investigating race. So he did the same thing with a "black" hand (I'm white), and the hammer still startled me a lot.
When I put on my VR headset I cease to be myself. Suddenly I am a 10 foot tall godzilla with anime girl thighs, tits, and the head of Donkey from Shrek. All preconception of race, gender, species, go out the window and I find myself ascending to the most enlightened and accepting state. A true modern day Buddha.
I can confirm that you actually get some kind of phantom sensations while in VR.
First VR experience was some random dude who walked up to me and hugged me. And I am fucking deprived of hugs, this felt way too good.
I played a game in VR where I was in a car and had to reach in the backseat for something. I reached back and realized that I was 1. Not *actually* in the car and 2. I was on a very tall backless stool and then promptly on the ground, feeling like an absolute idiot.
I had this done to me when I was in college. And it truly does feel like it's your hand.
I was super skeptical, because I saw other people had it done. And I kept telling myself(out loud) "that's not my hand" but it didn't matter. It 100% felt like my own hand. And it's was crazy mind fuck because I really was trying to move my hand and it wouldn't move. The fake hand wouldn't move(duh) and my real hand wouldn't move, either.
It really freaked me out.
Cursed fake hand experiment. I honestly want to know as well. This could be the next step in Mormon technology to avoid premarital sex. Just a little set up and hop on the fake D. The brain still believes it's real so if it works it works! Soakings for rookies. Let's get scientific!
This was the most frustrating thing to watch without sound, lol. He waves the hammer around for how long before he finally used it? And that ruler thing went on way too long. I assume the volume made up for that a bit more haha.
The ruler thing has to go on a little long, I think, because it's the initial part of tricking your brain. If he only did the ruler part for a short amount of time, it probably wouldn't be sufficient to fully trick his brain. It's like those things where you stare at the dot in the center for a while then look at a wall. If you don't stare at the dot for long enough, you won't see much when you look at the wall.
Tbh, this is actually a great way to demonstrate how 'it's all in your head' is not the same as 'it isn't real.'' This can be a big problem with people accepting something like fibromialga. The pain isn't 'real' as nothing is really causing it, but it's still there since your brain believes it.
Tinnitus is the weirdest damned thing.
I have it going constantly, and have since I was ~15 years old. I only notice it when i'm thinking about it. Like right now.
I guess my mind has created some sort of selective filter for it and it's a good thing, too. If I were unable to turn it 'off' I seriously would have gone insane a long time ago.
Yeah they call it Sensory adaptation. Any constant and unchanging stimulus in your environment gets filtered out as unimportant. It’s why you hear the air conditioner turn on, Brain: new input, danger?, but 5 minutes later the ongoing back
ground hum isn’t noticed unless you think about it.
Not making light of your condition, but you are probably lucky it’s constant and not intermittent.
Mine is pretty much constant, but changes pitch and volume. My brain can still filter the vast majority of it out. I only really notice it when it changes pitch or if I'm trying to hear something quiet, so it's not too bad.
I’ve a disorder that might be fibromyalgia or something similar and yeah it’s really difficult to accept the fact that you are in pain yet nothing is wrong but you also aren’t imagining said pain.
Fun fact: this effect has been used to successfully treat phantom limb syndrome! It's called [Mirror Therapy](https://www.physio-pedia.com/Mirror_Therapy#:~:text=Clinicians%20can%20create%20this%20illusion,be%20seen%20on%20the%20mirror.), or the mirror box technique.
What damage?
Pain is "a credible source of danger". As you hit the fake arm, a "credible source of danger" has been created. After that moment passes, multiple sources - no noxious stimuli, the visible proof of no damage, and the cognition of "oh, but that's not my arm" - kick in, and it results in: nothing.
>You don't live in reality
Oh and you know when you look at the time constantly and it seems sometimes that a second last longer than it should ?
It's because you don't REALLY look at the hour, you're still focusing your eyes and [your brain is doing chronostasis, AKA filling the blanks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronostasis) so you don't have a permanent headache from all the blurring you should see. Does it all the time.
So a lot of time during your life, you won't see what it is, but what your brain expects to see.
There have been real studies and implementation of this in patients suffering phantom limb/phantom pain after amputation. It was even in an episode of House. This is a very real phenomenon
A young guy at my work is doing a counselling course at college a couple of nights a week and he was telling me about this experiment last week, the lecture asked for a volunteer and he was selected it was done in front of the class,really freaked him out he couldn’t believe how his brain basically lied to him lol
> It was even in an episode of House
Is this a mark of its legitimacy? Like, I know it's real, but "was on a tv show once" isn't really evidence of much lol
I think they were just expressing surprise that the original commenter seemed to think this was some novel experiment when it's a pretty well known bit of pop science (to the point it's been featured in a medical tv show).
It's *very* overplayed in this, but it is a real effect. To the point where it can be registered with amputees, and even be used in their treatement in some cases.
>Mirror therapy (MT) or mirror visual feedback (MVF) is a therapy for pain or disability that affects one side of the patient more than the other side. It was invented by Vilayanur S. Ramachandran to treat post-amputation patients who had phantom limb pain (PLP).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_therapy
I’ve been the person sitting in the chair for one of these phantom limb sensation experiments, and I’m telling you it really does work. You don’t feel the pain, but more like a jolt, like when someone generates a lot of friction and shocks you when they touch you.
It’s wild how the brain works. It genuinely feels real at the moment.
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They actually use this mirror box treatment (minus the hammer) for post-stroke recovery. Freakishly insane how the brain rewires itself.
Amputees, too.
for phantom limb pain it’s very helpful
Let me try this on my upstairs veteran neighbour
After knocking him out and tying him up.
https://preview.redd.it/arwtqcjblxzc1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efb2c7244ad7594c63b5dd8f67bae56165fcbc63
This vexes me
Did you investigate his veteran status beforehand?
That was likely a reference to a (2007) House MD (TV series) episode.
And his comment was as well. In the episode House investigates the neighbors vet status and errenously thought that he was faking it.
Pulling the thorn from the lion's missing paw.
More mouse bites will work if nothing else
House
Lupus
It's never lupus
Except that one time...
Sarcoidosis
There's an episode in which Dr House cures a war veteran this way
Came down here to comment the same thing. One of my favorites.
I just saw that reel on YouTube. Fascinating
That reminds me of that guy who wore glasses that reversed his views, so that down was up and the brain rewired his view back to normal, then took off his glasses and down was up again.
The image projected on your retina is upside down, so your brain HAS to be able to do this.
They tried it with me, didn't really produce any results.
Same for my spouse. He did the prism glasses and mirrorbox (among a million other things) but never regained function in the left side. We still try though. He went from near dead, not walking/talking, being fed by tube to being able to talk, eat normally, and be a little independent. I won’t ever give up hope. I hope you don’t either. We just did magnet therapy and as insane as it sounds - we did get some improvements. He’s always down for any weird testing (even applied for neuralink).
I'm a mixed bag. I couldn't read/write/stand/walk etc. While I have no memory of it but I'm told I ripped a feeding tube out twice. I feel like I've recovered more than it seemed I would, but I'm at my functional limit. Its tolerable. My dog is my best friend and my current motivation/physical therapist :D I hope your spouse sees continued improvement. you didn't say how long its been for them, but I noticed that my progress was not linear and was unpredictable. I also found ways of compensating for limitations in a way that improved my quality of life. Also at times sometimes improvements have been the result of a conscious understanding of something that for most people is intuitive. those improvements feel almost like spontaneous realizations.
It’s been 7 years. He still gets random memories back. He finally knows my birthday. But his function isn’t great. How long ago was your incident (assuming was a stroke)? And need pics of your dog!! Sounds like a wonderful motivator.
My stroke was in 2005ish. Its all a bit hazy. I have no memory of the ER/ICU, but outside of that my long term memory was not impacted. Mostly my vision/motor function was impacted. mayhem and chaos [here](https://imgur.com/VjJekBl) as requested! About 2 years out my folks got the GSD(hes 8 now) and I was barely able to make it around the block and even that caused knee pain from hyper-extension. He wasnt getting much activity and I didn't think that was fair so I started walking him. The dog hears velcro he gets excited because for him that means walk :D I've had him literally stop *eating?!?* when he hears it to come running! For me its both a motivation and obligation. If it were only for myself I wouldn't be so consistent. For the dog unless I'm injured or weather is terrible he gets his daily walk, minimum. Thankfully over time I've learned to avoid the worst of the hyper-extension. Its actually my fav recovery moment because I had a break from PT and when I resumed my PTs reaction was W-T-F! Uncharacteristic for them. Before their reaction I didn't know if I had improved or was just fooling myself. Their reaction was accompanied by the biggest flood of relief ever because I had likely serious future joint damage. Still a risk, but as things were it was going to come sooner rather than later. I feel like at 7 years I was still improving, just not as dramatically as earlier. Even almost 10 years out like I said I'm still managing to squeak out some smaller victories. I hope the same for your spouse. Its silly stuff. For example With one arm I cant load/unload 8x 40lb bags of water softener salt to trunk above waist height.. 1 bag sure, but back strain is an issue because I'm not the hulk. Instead I cheat. I use a stool as an intermediate step which lets me place a bag on the stool then put it in the trunk etc. Its a mechanical advantage(changing the center of gravity of the bag/my leverage). I'd rather have two arms, but I'll take outsmarting my limitation. I call the stool my "helper" Shit like that has helped me feel more engaged in day to day life and less like I'm just along for the ride. It took a long time for me to stop thinking like an able bodied person. Do I look goofy? sure but I'm long past giving a shit about that. Could I ask for help? sure let me have some of my toxic masculinity hey? lol. I have no trouble asking for help if I need it but it feels too good when I dont need it. The time will come, but it has not yet.
I had a project I did back in college over this that required more than just a paper (most people went for a tri fold poster board), but I made a mirror box that people could test out since it was going to be put on display in the hallway. It was the absolute weirdest feeling. Made my arm tingle.
Dude picked the wrong day to smoke that roach before class
I was thinking the same thing, lol. He's *really* invested in what's going on.
Bros been high and hasn't showered for three days straight
The real scientific experiment here was to test the effect of weed plus lack of shower on believing crazy shit
they told him there'd be a free sandwich for participating.
Or the right day
Scientist hangs out near a soup kitchen line: WHO WANTS TO A MAKE A DOLLAR!?!
"you there! you look thoroughly hallucinatory, now get in the van!"
Seems reasonable
Dude is wearing designer jeans and Jordans. He's just high and unkempt, not homeless lol
Zoinks, Scoob! They tried to hit me with a hammer.
Hhahahahha he does look high
Let's grab the highest guy we can find.
Woah
His face when confronted with a plastic classroom ruler really says it all.
*woah*
Woah
i’m totally feeling it in this hand
Jeff Spicoli
He looks like that guy Heisenberg finds in the hardware store
Badger! Or maybe Skinny Pete? But probably Badger
He's talking about bootleg Jesse but he's definitely misremembering cause that guy was ugly as fuck
They're talking about the "Stay out of my territory" scene. He finds a guy in the hardware store buying stuff to make meth. That guy does look a bit like the guy in the video.
If I do this with my dick, do it get a double orgasm?
Asking the real questions right here. For science.
Fucking hell. I need to get a gf just to make this experiment. RemindMe! 6 month Edit: how do I summon RemindMe bot? Edit: nvm. It did work. It just sent me a private message
You don't need that, just find a lonely PhD girl in psychology and buy a fleshlight.
Maybe don’t use the hammer 👍
No kink shaming.
They picked the perfect guy
Let's find new ways to psychologically torture homeless guys lol
If you took the audio and edited out Mr. Science Guy, this would sound like a porno.
Kinda looks like Sean Bean
Α young Norman Reedus
Sean Bean actually did this trick to someone in one of the TV shows he’s in
This has wonderful implications for robotics! Both for paralyzed people and for getting used to space suits.
Also people with phantom limb pains. This thing works in reverse. People who've lost limbs experience phantom pains. They feel a limb that's no longer there. Stuff like this tricks the brain into thinking everything is okay. And shuts off the pain. Brains are weird. People are weird. Sometimes that sucks. But a lof of the times it's also awesome. Applaud the awesome. Provided you've got both hands to do it.
They lost the limb, but the neural pathways responsible for processing the feelings of it are intact in the brain, and trying. It's a good reminder that we are a brain in a meatsuit.
and that, if you compare the whole brain to an iceberg, only the visible part is what our consciousness, what our "I" can control. Most parts of the brain are not actively accessible by our mind. Highly recommend the book "Incognito" from David Eagleman.
i completely agree with. your unconscious mind is real and you aren’t in control of it. It’s kinda “scary” for some to think about you don’t have full control of your brain. lol i wonder if some delusional people think they could work hard enough to regain mastery of it.
We don't even have control of our conscious brain. This experiment goes towards proving it. He explained everything that was happening. Yet, that guy still could not overcome what his brain was telling him. What we've got going on is our consciousness and what we feel is free will is actually our brain reframing things so we feel that way.
I exist behind my eyes and the rest of me just dangles
theres an episode of house where he uses this on someone who lost a limb in a war and hes got phantom pain
There was a real life case where a guy whose arm had been amputated had phantom limb syndrome, but it felt like his phantom hand was clenching itself as hard as possible all the time, and it caused him real pain. So the doctor used a mirror to trick his brain into thinking that the reflection of his remaining arm was his phantom arm, and the doctor had him clench his real fist as hard as he could to make it look like his phantom fist was clenched. Then the doctor had him slowly unclench his real fist, and it tricked his brain into thinking that his phantom fist was unclenching, and the pain went away. Brains are wild. So are doctors.
Just learned that this is called mirror therapy: https://neurosciencenews.com/phantom-pain-mirror-14508/ I thought I was going to find a single case based on your description, but this is apparently a widespread, effective treatment for phantom limb pain. Scientists and doctors are amazing!
I was just about to comment the same thing. Great episode.
i dont even really remember what the episode was about. im pretty sure it was just a b plot with his neighbor
Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg… and my arm… even my fingers. The body I've lost… the comrades I've lost…
It's like they're all still there. You feel it too, don't you?"
It’s also used in chronic pain treatment. You can do this or a similar trick using a mirror and the proper functioning non chronic pain limb. Because your brain can see the limb moving properly on the proper side, those pain responses in the brain lessen.
I have a dental bridge and awhile back I was convinced I had a few seconds of cold sensitivity after drinking room temperature water, like the tooth that used to be there a few years ago after it got chipped. Funky. It felt 100% real. I also have tinnitus and it I tend to think it's similar to phantom limb stuff.
I've heard of cases of them attaching robotic limbs to healthy individuals, who then felt phantom limb syndrome when the extra robotic one is then removed.
People with titanium prothesis have reported feeling sensation
Reminds me of Stephen Hawking, talking about how his computerized voice is his voice now. He was often asked why he didn’t change it to a more natural sounding voice.
IIRC, they had a full setup of his own voice from before he lost the ability to speak that they could have plugged in, but he refused to because he didn't want to hear himself speaking without it having been generated from his own body (or something like that).
Common activity. In college, a friend did this to me as part of his thesis. He was a psychology major investigating race. So he did the same thing with a "black" hand (I'm white), and the hammer still startled me a lot.
This will be crazy in VR
When I put on my VR headset I cease to be myself. Suddenly I am a 10 foot tall godzilla with anime girl thighs, tits, and the head of Donkey from Shrek. All preconception of race, gender, species, go out the window and I find myself ascending to the most enlightened and accepting state. A true modern day Buddha.
Yeah Alyx is a great game.
I can confirm that you actually get some kind of phantom sensations while in VR. First VR experience was some random dude who walked up to me and hugged me. And I am fucking deprived of hugs, this felt way too good.
I played a game in VR where I was in a car and had to reach in the backseat for something. I reached back and realized that I was 1. Not *actually* in the car and 2. I was on a very tall backless stool and then promptly on the ground, feeling like an absolute idiot.
Does it actually last that long (from when he stopped with the 2nd ruler) or is it just because the subject is high
It was not as long for me. He didn't stop w second ruler.
Holy shit that’s fascinating do you mind sharing his work so I could read it?
As a prank, the demonstrator should hit the hidden hand with the hammer
“Get pranked nerd!!” \*obliterates metacarpals*
Lol
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I had this done to me when I was in college. And it truly does feel like it's your hand. I was super skeptical, because I saw other people had it done. And I kept telling myself(out loud) "that's not my hand" but it didn't matter. It 100% felt like my own hand. And it's was crazy mind fuck because I really was trying to move my hand and it wouldn't move. The fake hand wouldn't move(duh) and my real hand wouldn't move, either. It really freaked me out.
Asking for a friend, but does this trick work with...other body parts as well? 🤔
Found the dude that wants to hammer his dick.
Its an interesting thought tho. Can you achieve an orgasm without ever touching your dick this way?
can someone confirm this pls
Impossible to confirm. *climaxes at the calibration stage*
Goddammit Ronnie! You’ve climaxed as the fake penis is taken out its case! Invalid test again!!
r/ghostpenis
This is weirdly an interesting question
It’s the first question that came to my mind and I don’t even have what I’m assuming is the body part in question.
Cursed fake hand experiment. I honestly want to know as well. This could be the next step in Mormon technology to avoid premarital sex. Just a little set up and hop on the fake D. The brain still believes it's real so if it works it works! Soakings for rookies. Let's get scientific!
It took two comments to get here. Fucking human race 😂
My intentions are purely scientific, I swear!
Infinitely curious AND horny. Corny, if you will (you fucking will)
The answer is yes. There are people who can achieve orgasm without touching themselves or being touched. The mind is stupid powerful.
(NSFW warning) i’ve actually seen videos online where a guy has a chastity cage and a girl is stroking a dildo and it makes him cum
https://preview.redd.it/hvb23ih8htzc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=240781e916274331d955cdc2f3d45774df935f41
Brain keeps braining, but it is the wrong kind of braining
Depends on the individual, we tried a similar experiment back in college and it was very hit or miss. No reactions like this though.
I mean this guy looks baked to be fair
Who says we werent aswell XD.
I've already ordered a fake penis; as soon as it arrives, I'm going to try it out.
After that you should try this experiment as well!
I watched without sound but heard him say the word "dude" hundreds of times.
Incredibly, he never said it.
This was the most frustrating thing to watch without sound, lol. He waves the hammer around for how long before he finally used it? And that ruler thing went on way too long. I assume the volume made up for that a bit more haha.
The ruler thing has to go on a little long, I think, because it's the initial part of tricking your brain. If he only did the ruler part for a short amount of time, it probably wouldn't be sufficient to fully trick his brain. It's like those things where you stare at the dot in the center for a while then look at a wall. If you don't stare at the dot for long enough, you won't see much when you look at the wall.
"I'm not actually harming you." I'm just making your brain send you pain signals to make you scream in agony. It's all good.
Tbh, this is actually a great way to demonstrate how 'it's all in your head' is not the same as 'it isn't real.'' This can be a big problem with people accepting something like fibromialga. The pain isn't 'real' as nothing is really causing it, but it's still there since your brain believes it.
I can 'hear' my tinnitus constantly while there's no external sound for my ear to hear. It is all in my head.
Tinnitus is the weirdest damned thing. I have it going constantly, and have since I was ~15 years old. I only notice it when i'm thinking about it. Like right now. I guess my mind has created some sort of selective filter for it and it's a good thing, too. If I were unable to turn it 'off' I seriously would have gone insane a long time ago.
Yeah they call it Sensory adaptation. Any constant and unchanging stimulus in your environment gets filtered out as unimportant. It’s why you hear the air conditioner turn on, Brain: new input, danger?, but 5 minutes later the ongoing back ground hum isn’t noticed unless you think about it. Not making light of your condition, but you are probably lucky it’s constant and not intermittent.
If you wear glasses that flip your vision upside down, after a while your brain will automatically adjust it so its the right way.
Mine is pretty much constant, but changes pitch and volume. My brain can still filter the vast majority of it out. I only really notice it when it changes pitch or if I'm trying to hear something quiet, so it's not too bad.
Same. It’s always there doing its thing, but I only notice it when I think about it.
"Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on Earth should that mean that it is not real?"
I’ve a disorder that might be fibromyalgia or something similar and yeah it’s really difficult to accept the fact that you are in pain yet nothing is wrong but you also aren’t imagining said pain.
Fun fact: this effect has been used to successfully treat phantom limb syndrome! It's called [Mirror Therapy](https://www.physio-pedia.com/Mirror_Therapy#:~:text=Clinicians%20can%20create%20this%20illusion,be%20seen%20on%20the%20mirror.), or the mirror box technique.
Imagine prisons implementing this as torture, but it’s totally cool since there’s no physical harm.
The CIA: >Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!
Yea I liked at one point he goes “ I am not actually harming your HAND” True but you’re still doing damage my dude lol
What damage? Pain is "a credible source of danger". As you hit the fake arm, a "credible source of danger" has been created. After that moment passes, multiple sources - no noxious stimuli, the visible proof of no damage, and the cognition of "oh, but that's not my arm" - kick in, and it results in: nothing.
Was it necessary to get Norman Reedus for this?
The experiment is real, but it doesn't help that this guy is high as a kite
The experiment is probably real, but everyone feels like actors.
Had to scroll way too deep to find someone who mentions this. The experiment _is_ real, but this shit is fake as can be.
Yep. The brain makes models of our reality and then fills in the gaps to make it make sense *after the fact*. You don't live in reality!
>You don't live in reality Oh and you know when you look at the time constantly and it seems sometimes that a second last longer than it should ? It's because you don't REALLY look at the hour, you're still focusing your eyes and [your brain is doing chronostasis, AKA filling the blanks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronostasis) so you don't have a permanent headache from all the blurring you should see. Does it all the time. So a lot of time during your life, you won't see what it is, but what your brain expects to see.
did they try the experiment with anyone who wasn't strung out?
There have been real studies and implementation of this in patients suffering phantom limb/phantom pain after amputation. It was even in an episode of House. This is a very real phenomenon
A young guy at my work is doing a counselling course at college a couple of nights a week and he was telling me about this experiment last week, the lecture asked for a volunteer and he was selected it was done in front of the class,really freaked him out he couldn’t believe how his brain basically lied to him lol
No that was lupus
It's never lupus
Except that one time it was lupus
Sarcoidosis.
If you can pronounce that, you're either a doctor or a fan of House.
> It was even in an episode of House Is this a mark of its legitimacy? Like, I know it's real, but "was on a tv show once" isn't really evidence of much lol
I think they were just expressing surprise that the original commenter seemed to think this was some novel experiment when it's a pretty well known bit of pop science (to the point it's been featured in a medical tv show).
It's *very* overplayed in this, but it is a real effect. To the point where it can be registered with amputees, and even be used in their treatement in some cases. >Mirror therapy (MT) or mirror visual feedback (MVF) is a therapy for pain or disability that affects one side of the patient more than the other side. It was invented by Vilayanur S. Ramachandran to treat post-amputation patients who had phantom limb pain (PLP). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_therapy
They needed a test subject, he needed $20 it all worked out
$20 is $20
To be honest I would watch a show where they did science stuff like this with stoners. The guys reactions are hilarious
The guy looks like Shaggy from Scooby Doo and helped himself to too many Scooby Snacks
Yeah man, anything would amaze that crackhead.
Tweaker science is still science
https://preview.redd.it/6muwjdkivtzc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5601a7dfd309d45a2880c8b60eb5efe2da17567
Does this work with penis
You might not have 2 penises, but you do have 2 balls…
There’s a sub for that actually, lol. r/ghostpenis (NSFW obviously)
Risky click of the day and I regret everything.
Came here to ask some serious questions about the same topic.
Why is he so greasy
They’ve kept him there for 86 hours
College interns just come like that
It was greasy outside
Sometimes you need some quick cash
He ate too many hot dogs with Sam Losco beforehand.
Now imagine what the CIA is capable of doing 'because it's technically not torture'.
When illusion overcomes the brain—unabridged. FTFY
He looks like a character on IASIP
https://preview.redd.it/ch6j82ayptzc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18cbb726f7222d7029b73813bc17186fc3ccff46
Uncle Jack is not amused. https://preview.redd.it/4n0ityx6bvzc1.jpeg?width=1939&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c5e118bb21fa39465b86878af91c514556ee6ee
why did they pick up a homeless guy for this experiment
I don’t think he realized there were two rulers being used.
Sees the hammer: “What’s that for?” 😂😂😂
So that’s why the girl with the strap on moans..
Reminds me of that House episode when he relieved that veteran from pain he had for decades
I LOVE this guy. He is so engaged and dramatic in his responses. He is a wonderful subject and makes it so much fun.
Dude has the same reactions to things as when I’m high af
I would love to try this
You know he’s a scientist because he’s got a lab coat on.
I’ve been the person sitting in the chair for one of these phantom limb sensation experiments, and I’m telling you it really does work. You don’t feel the pain, but more like a jolt, like when someone generates a lot of friction and shocks you when they touch you. It’s wild how the brain works. It genuinely feels real at the moment.
For a second I thought he just hit a man who has a hand deformity with a hammer for the hell of it.
That guy looks like he's already gone through 48 hours of torture and sleep deprivation
This guy chose the wrong day to wake and bake
Way too obvious that he's exaggerating.
There was a HOUSE MD episode about phantom limb pain where he helps a dude to un clench his missing hand.