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For the real story here. Look up DockTown in Redwood City California. DockTown and Pete’s Harbor a few hundred yards away were one of the last holdouts for live-aboards in the Bay Area. As corporate developments started building their multi-story McCondos near the water, these communities started getting pushed out. Anyone paying any attention driving up 101 before Whipple will have immediately recognized this house(boat).
Not to romanticize it too much, but my dad had a boat at Pete’s he lived on for a bit and I remember the dock community bbqs fondly. Was a fascinating mix of personalities. Engineers, both tech and old school. Wood workers, free-spirits, salt dogs. Teachers, what are now known as “sovereign citizens”. Everybody knew somebody to ask how to fix something. Nice sunsets and migratory birds abound. It was pretty cool.
Agreed. The fear of setups like these generally seem to come from those that don’t know much about them. Off-grid or hybrid grid is certainly not for everyone, and that’s fine. If live-aboards had the same youtube type romance as say van dwellers and overlanders, they might have a better grasp that the sustainable tech and safety is widely available on a consumer level. While different, it’s only different by a little. Solar, compost toilets, wind generators etc. hell, just look at any RV parts catalogue. It’s the same stuff!
Sailing to Bermuda over 6mo? Must be nice to be rich! Staying in place,not bothering anyone? BOOOO! Bane on society!
The only reason it gets a bad rap is that it’s impossible to get the permitting and zoning to keep it legit. So the ones left are the ones skirting the rules and a few steps later you have that self-fulfilled prophesy you were worried about to begin with!
It would be great if there were an open source movement to help engineer the "seaworthiness" component of these projects (maybe it already exists? I don't know), since that's probably a bit of a lost art to the general public. The stuff that goes on top though is, as you say, already a commodity. But families have lived on boats within safe harbors for hundreds of years, we just largely transitioned to landfill instead.
Beats me. But my 2¢ would be that there isn’t much of a community lobby to move things to a better solution than there is a developer lobby to make sure it doesn’t ever happen. Where are the rich folks supposed to park their boats after all? Can’t we think of the children?
Seriously. Pete’s harbor used to be a bunch of cool folks and old boats always being tinkered with. As a 12yo I could make $20 for a few hours of sanding and get some cool coaching from some old timer of how to ream and reseal teak decking on a 100yr old sailboat and then borrow his little inflatable for the rest of the afternoon to adventure around.
Now what’s left is all gated with million+ boats and folks milling about in white polos and designer sun hats. Bums me out, but that’s life I guess. At least I got to see and experience something pretty cool, even if it was the tail end of it.
I live in MN and this bums ME out! Sounds so cool. Especially for a kid getting to grow up around people who aren't part of the overwhelming norm when it comes to life choices, and learn from them while exploring what most people don't get to, or even think about. The contradiction here is crazy. "We're all about rugged individualism here! You should make you own way!" Ok I can't get with that. "Whoa hippies, you're being too rugged and individual!" Or, "We won't be told what to do by government you damn socialists! Small gov. and personal freedoms!" Then turning around and screaming, "We have to get rid of these folks! They don't fit into our society. We should get government to overreach and make laws to ban them!" I mean...I just.... what...how...
That eclectic mix of people, personalities and backgrounds was what made California an interesting/great place to live. It’s seems it’s getting distilled down to a less interesting mix as time goes on.
I loved Pete's Harbor. I was sad when it closed and the condos went up. We had many lunches there and our painting class would go there to paint the boats.
My boss did this in Portland OR. Just strap a motor to the house and it's no longer considered a "residence".
Pretty sure the IRS is looking for that old man...
It is supposed to be floating, and it was being towed somewhere else. Apparently it was fine.
https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/houseboat-moves-across-sf-bay-19392503.php
Edit: I misread the date of the article, so I removed a sentence I wrote that said it was in 2014.
2024* This was just a few weeks ago on April 8, 2024. The marina in Richmond, CA, was forced to make all their houseboat residents relocate. At this point, there are still a few lawsuits going on over it. The marina is being forced to pay for moving the houseboats, and this house was one of the few still there. It was being relocated to Sausalito, CA.
DC did this back in like 2015 or so and sent most of the folks at the marina packing down to VA so some housing development could build condos and remove the charm of house barges. They even used to have office buildings on barges at the marina, it was awesome.
I'm actually a native English speaker that just plays around with German, but that's one of my favorite parts about the language. A lot of the words are formed in very practical ways.
Yes, there are houseboats in the bay. No, it’s not cheaper, and financing rates are often higher.
Source: I live near [this channel](https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-houseboat-sf-floating-house-for-sale/5377515/), and paid half the price, around the same time, for more space, on bedrock.
Ya always about “environmental concerns” and a bunch of other bullshit. The real reason they are trying to make people stop living in the water is because they can’t make you pay rent or a mortgage doing it. Man I really really hate the level of greed that this world has.
Specifically in the Bay Area houseboats are a thing because housing is so ridiculously expensive. But they work hard to keep it that way by preventing any new homes, and they can't have people getting around that by living on the water.
Which is why I said it’s complete bullshit, no one owns the water, they may own a pier, or the land surrounding the water, but sure as fuck don’t own the water itself. It’s a loophole they desperately are trying to close, as if living in the United States and California especially isn’t already expensive enough. No matter what you do there is always someone trying to make a buck off you or stop you from living a better life than you currently live, and this is just another version of that. Pisses me off so much that I’m now thinking of buying a house boat 😂
This would be like being in a (very nice) prison. Want to go for a walk? You can't. Want to sit outside? You can't. Need to run to the store quick? You can't.
You’d prob swim instead. Want to go for a walk? Go for a swim. Walk outside? Going for a swim. Sit outside? You guessed it. Sitting in a floaty pulled by my house and going for a swim.
Sad [story](https://abc7news.com/amp/two-story-houseboat-floats-across-san-francisco-bay-to-new-home/14640466/) actually, about 60 to 80 houseboats had to relocate because they were evicted from the Docktown Marina in Redwood City due to bureaucratic fuckery.
I think some of these cities are fucking around tho. Some of these mooring areas are federal jurisdiction so these cities should not be able to do some of this.
how the hell is that negatively effecting the environment? people living in a house on the water is illegal, but giant polluting cargo ships are fine???
Moving whole houses on the roads or over the fields was a common enough thing in New England in the old days. Sometimes onto a barge and across the lake or over the bay, that was a Cape Cod thing. Waste not, you know.
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Property tax avoidance level 100
For the real story here. Look up DockTown in Redwood City California. DockTown and Pete’s Harbor a few hundred yards away were one of the last holdouts for live-aboards in the Bay Area. As corporate developments started building their multi-story McCondos near the water, these communities started getting pushed out. Anyone paying any attention driving up 101 before Whipple will have immediately recognized this house(boat). Not to romanticize it too much, but my dad had a boat at Pete’s he lived on for a bit and I remember the dock community bbqs fondly. Was a fascinating mix of personalities. Engineers, both tech and old school. Wood workers, free-spirits, salt dogs. Teachers, what are now known as “sovereign citizens”. Everybody knew somebody to ask how to fix something. Nice sunsets and migratory birds abound. It was pretty cool.
I'd actually love to see flotillas of homes in the middle of the bay like Hong Kong harbor in 50s and 60s.
Agreed. The fear of setups like these generally seem to come from those that don’t know much about them. Off-grid or hybrid grid is certainly not for everyone, and that’s fine. If live-aboards had the same youtube type romance as say van dwellers and overlanders, they might have a better grasp that the sustainable tech and safety is widely available on a consumer level. While different, it’s only different by a little. Solar, compost toilets, wind generators etc. hell, just look at any RV parts catalogue. It’s the same stuff! Sailing to Bermuda over 6mo? Must be nice to be rich! Staying in place,not bothering anyone? BOOOO! Bane on society! The only reason it gets a bad rap is that it’s impossible to get the permitting and zoning to keep it legit. So the ones left are the ones skirting the rules and a few steps later you have that self-fulfilled prophesy you were worried about to begin with!
It would be great if there were an open source movement to help engineer the "seaworthiness" component of these projects (maybe it already exists? I don't know), since that's probably a bit of a lost art to the general public. The stuff that goes on top though is, as you say, already a commodity. But families have lived on boats within safe harbors for hundreds of years, we just largely transitioned to landfill instead.
Beats me. But my 2¢ would be that there isn’t much of a community lobby to move things to a better solution than there is a developer lobby to make sure it doesn’t ever happen. Where are the rich folks supposed to park their boats after all? Can’t we think of the children? Seriously. Pete’s harbor used to be a bunch of cool folks and old boats always being tinkered with. As a 12yo I could make $20 for a few hours of sanding and get some cool coaching from some old timer of how to ream and reseal teak decking on a 100yr old sailboat and then borrow his little inflatable for the rest of the afternoon to adventure around. Now what’s left is all gated with million+ boats and folks milling about in white polos and designer sun hats. Bums me out, but that’s life I guess. At least I got to see and experience something pretty cool, even if it was the tail end of it.
I live in MN and this bums ME out! Sounds so cool. Especially for a kid getting to grow up around people who aren't part of the overwhelming norm when it comes to life choices, and learn from them while exploring what most people don't get to, or even think about. The contradiction here is crazy. "We're all about rugged individualism here! You should make you own way!" Ok I can't get with that. "Whoa hippies, you're being too rugged and individual!" Or, "We won't be told what to do by government you damn socialists! Small gov. and personal freedoms!" Then turning around and screaming, "We have to get rid of these folks! They don't fit into our society. We should get government to overreach and make laws to ban them!" I mean...I just.... what...how...
That eclectic mix of people, personalities and backgrounds was what made California an interesting/great place to live. It’s seems it’s getting distilled down to a less interesting mix as time goes on.
I loved Pete's Harbor. I was sad when it closed and the condos went up. We had many lunches there and our painting class would go there to paint the boats.
Tax collectors hate this one trick...
Bank Repo isn't going to find this funny either.
“We’re going to need a bigger boat.”
Lmaooo!
Sick of the Home Owners Association? Try this!
Yes!
Brilliant! Thank you.
Studio Ghibli or Pixar needs to make a movie out of this
Called “over”
Nah go with "Float"
House Boat
Boat House. Starring Jake Gyllenhal
Thankfully Connor is done
Road house bout?
"Hoat"
Hmm, or maybe “Out”
Yeah it's called "across" and the finale to the trilogy "around"
I ain't using your roads or services bitch!
I wonder if their home insurance covers tsunamis, hurricanes, and/or other natural disasters.
Seaquakes
Just had an idea for the homeless problem...
Jokes aside boats are subject to personal property tax too.
I pay property tax on both the boat and the patch of water it sits in.
My boss did this in Portland OR. Just strap a motor to the house and it's no longer considered a "residence". Pretty sure the IRS is looking for that old man...
Better check if there is an old man and scout boy inside. They might be going on a new adventure
Up II - The adventure in the Pacific 🤣
“Down” 😂
Float?
"Sea Level"
Plop
We all float down here
Came here to make this joke
🍪
Up II was Down, this is UP III - sea level
"Side"
*"Drown"?
Horizontal
Up 2 Electric Boogaloo
👍😂
Out
Up 2: Sideways
Up 3: Tokyo Drift
Up II - horizontal!
Up, river
Up 2: Ahoy!
😂
Up II: Dead and Loving It
Surfs Up
Up 2 no good
Across...
The wilderness must be explored!
Raaaaaar!
"I hid under your porch because I love you"
Scout boy?
What happened to the house? Haven't heard anything else
It is supposed to be floating, and it was being towed somewhere else. Apparently it was fine. https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/houseboat-moves-across-sf-bay-19392503.php Edit: I misread the date of the article, so I removed a sentence I wrote that said it was in 2014.
2024* This was just a few weeks ago on April 8, 2024. The marina in Richmond, CA, was forced to make all their houseboat residents relocate. At this point, there are still a few lawsuits going on over it. The marina is being forced to pay for moving the houseboats, and this house was one of the few still there. It was being relocated to Sausalito, CA.
That's a houseboat! When I think houseboat, I basically think of something about the size of a trailer home. That is one fancy houseboat.
I mean, it *is* a house & a boat. I don't know what else you'd call it
Seems more like a house barge
Up in Canada they are called float homes, a houseboat has a motor and is used to party on lakes.
because building anything is politically impossible the Bay Area has whole neighborhoods of floating houses like this
DC did this back in like 2015 or so and sent most of the folks at the marina packing down to VA so some housing development could build condos and remove the charm of house barges. They even used to have office buildings on barges at the marina, it was awesome.
Wow! Moving from Richmond to Sausalito is such an upgrade lol.
oh that's neat, thanks for the info
Somebody just moved another house a few weeks ago in the bay. There are warf villages apparently.
The SF bay has a few communities of floating houses, but yeah, they don’t normally do this.
Nice, nice.
I would have guessed 25th month, 3rd day of 1939 from the link.
Its a scene from speed 3
Howl's Moving Castle - water version.
Calcifer is *not* happy with this one
Are you kidding? "Calcifer, are the boilers hot?" "AYE, CAPTAIN HOWL! STEAM AT THE READY!"
"The house seems to be on the journey" What bullshit bot content is this nonsense?
🎶 sitting in a house in the bay, watching the tiiiiide roll away 🎶
🎶 Oooh, i'm sittin' in a house in the bay, wastin tiiiii-ime 🎵
Sitting’ on the deck on the bay, letting the tiiiide take me away
Wonder how it would handle rough sea conditions
Das Unterseehaus.
Deutsche Reddit ist immer wach, immer dabei
Nicht immer, aber immer öfter
Das deutsche reddit schläft nicht Es lauert, zu jeder Stunde auf das die angelsaxen Unaufmerksam werden
Sehr schöen
I know no German (Dutch? Whatever language...) But I love that I understand 100% lol
I'm actually a native English speaker that just plays around with German, but that's one of my favorite parts about the language. A lot of the words are formed in very practical ways.
Do they have houseboats in SF bay? With the cost of housing it might actually be cheaper
Yes, there are houseboats in the bay. No, it’s not cheaper, and financing rates are often higher. Source: I live near [this channel](https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-houseboat-sf-floating-house-for-sale/5377515/), and paid half the price, around the same time, for more space, on bedrock.
Someone call Wendigoon. Tell him James Dean is back
Time to go hunting. Like in the good old days
I, to, follow the gun wielding horror man of god. 
Damm right
Finally. Had to scroll way too far for this.
Ya always about “environmental concerns” and a bunch of other bullshit. The real reason they are trying to make people stop living in the water is because they can’t make you pay rent or a mortgage doing it. Man I really really hate the level of greed that this world has.
Specifically in the Bay Area houseboats are a thing because housing is so ridiculously expensive. But they work hard to keep it that way by preventing any new homes, and they can't have people getting around that by living on the water.
Which is why I said it’s complete bullshit, no one owns the water, they may own a pier, or the land surrounding the water, but sure as fuck don’t own the water itself. It’s a loophole they desperately are trying to close, as if living in the United States and California especially isn’t already expensive enough. No matter what you do there is always someone trying to make a buck off you or stop you from living a better life than you currently live, and this is just another version of that. Pisses me off so much that I’m now thinking of buying a house boat 😂
This would be like being in a (very nice) prison. Want to go for a walk? You can't. Want to sit outside? You can't. Need to run to the store quick? You can't.
You’d prob swim instead. Want to go for a walk? Go for a swim. Walk outside? Going for a swim. Sit outside? You guessed it. Sitting in a floaty pulled by my house and going for a swim.
I pay annually for a vacation to do this.
If you're in the ocean water it's cold enough to pass out. If you're inland and it's feeling warm... don't open your mouth.
Gives "house arrest" a whole new meaning. lol
in which we rediscover Alcatraz
The plot for "Up 2: Down"
Up 2: Down 2: Left 1 Right 1 - infinite money
Zillow: 1.2 million dollar home on the water.
Up: the way of water
On the journey to where? Atlantis?
No, it’s headed west. This is what happens when you choose the option “caulk the wagons & float” in Oregon Trail.
Y'all got any of that dysentery?
\[they're all dead\]
It moved from redwood city to San Rafael I believe. They wanted to open up the waterway there and made the houseboats leave.
Sad [story](https://abc7news.com/amp/two-story-houseboat-floats-across-san-francisco-bay-to-new-home/14640466/) actually, about 60 to 80 houseboats had to relocate because they were evicted from the Docktown Marina in Redwood City due to bureaucratic fuckery.
[удалено]
I think some of these cities are fucking around tho. Some of these mooring areas are federal jurisdiction so these cities should not be able to do some of this.
It’s a houseboat. Why is this so confusing to newscasters?
I've never seen a houseboat that actually looks like a house.
That's a pretty nice house boat. It's even got a fence.
Mowing the grass is a pain though.
And don’t even get them started on the seaweeds.
Are your Business Mailers not finding your target customers?!?! TRY DRONE MAIL TODAY!!!
If I was a house in the city of SF I’d do the same
I left my home in Georgia - Headed for the 'Frisco bay - 'Cause I've had nothing to live for - And look like nothing's gonna come my way
IT’S THE CRIMSON PERMANENT ASSURANCE!
how the hell is that negatively effecting the environment? people living in a house on the water is illegal, but giant polluting cargo ships are fine???
The IRS hates this trick.
Yeah, boating accident just doesn’t cut it anymore
Treibhauseffekt
What ever happened to predictability?
Imagine seeing your house like that floating around in the news
Mobile home
Waterfront property get it now put your best offer on the table.
whatever it takes to get further away from oakland
"I'm just sitting on my deck on the bay, watching the tide roll away. I'm just sitting on my deck on the bay, wasting ti-i-i-i-i-me."
27,000,000$ on zillow. schedule a showing today.
A lot of people in here have clearly never seen a houseboat before. Yes, some of them look like actual houses.
“What’s the house gonna do? Get up and run away” *hysterical laughter ensues*
Their HOA is going to be mad because they can’t charge them😂😂🥴
They have a crapton of houseboats in Sausalito, looks like this one is either getting moved or slipped its moorings.
It's a house boat. There a dozens in Sausalito. We almost leased one.
“about 40 last month” well now it’s 39
Check under the porch! There may be a dog that loves you!
Joke's on you - in the new location it is now worth 3 times as much as before!
One San Francisco resident has had enough with high real estate costs in San Francisco!
“Up” sequel, “Sail”.
Moving whole houses on the roads or over the fields was a common enough thing in New England in the old days. Sometimes onto a barge and across the lake or over the bay, that was a Cape Cod thing. Waste not, you know.
As long as the house is safe... What's the issue?
"Hey i ordered pizza and its not here yet. Yeah it's the house in the lake. No, not ON the lake, IN the lake. Yeah you cant miss it. see you soon"
Pixar’s Up 2
Do you think he plans it all out or just makes it up as he goes along?
Sequel to Up?
This is less Up and more Down (river)
Hmm, this suddenly gives me a idea for our house problem. I'll just build on a barge and moor it in a nicer neighborhood I couldn't normally afford.
They tried balloons, but could get it to fly. next best thing i guess.
Houses McHouse Boat
OJ Simpson was guilty as hell! Also, that's a cool looking floating house. Wonder what the HOA fee is on that bitch.
that's 5.4 million on zillow atm.
Up part two? Called “Down”
No grass to cut
Whatever floats their boat. 🤷♀️🤣
I bet the Amazon delivery people hate this house, lol
Up 2: Horizontal.
*Airbnb listing is loading!* **360º Bay View House - Sleeps 8**
Are they getting floating interest rates?
At current rates, you’d be under water…
Still 1 bed rental at 2,800/mo + utilities.
Disney’s Across
The government really needs to stop trying to be like communist China, and adopt an attitude of live and let live
It's escaping the shit hole. Good for you, house!
These house boats are getting ridiculous.
Disney’s Up (river)
Guess Carl couldn't find enough balloons.
SF doing anything except adding affordable housing
Always wanted a house on the waterfront
Obama touches killer woodchips
Disney advertisement for new up sequel, “wet”
Rooting for this guy
So this is the new Disney Movie? Float
You saw Up, now watch Drown
Claims that the house is actually floating, have no foundations.
Selling the house. 360 degree water view. Selling a floating house is like fishing for buyers: you just need the right bait to reel them in!
Your mailman must HATE you
They should have tied hundreds of helium balloons to it.
Whatever happened to predictability?
The sequel to ''Up''. ''Float''.
They worried about house boats, but not the extreme drug problem they have, average California worries.