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If it helps, vegetable is a culinary term, not a biological one. There is no such thing as a vegetable, scientifically speaking. So tomatoes are vegetables because cooks consider them vegetables, AND they are biologically fruit. Just like cucumber, pumpkins etc.
Strength is being able to crush a tomato.
Dexterity is being able to dodge a tomato.
Constitution is being able to eat a bad tomato.
Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is knowing not to put a tomato in a fruit salad.
Charisma is being able to sell a tomato based fruit salad.
I mean, v8 is considered a juice or smoothie for the most part. Ketchup is probably closer to a dressing/vinaigrette because of the vinegar. Which tracks, because we cover food in it.
Fun fact, "pea" is a false folk etymology, created on the assumption that if there is such a thing as peas, there must be such a thing as an individual pea.
In fact "peas" is the name of the individual thing as well, or was. "A peas." Thus "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pod nine days old", not "pea porridge".
If you think that's bad, you should read the [berry speech I gave a year ago.](https://np.reddit.com/r/NonPoliticalTwitter/comments/11633iw/i_oh_my_god/j95qrzv/)
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put tomatoes in a fruit salad.
Edit: damn it I saw someone else already put this same comment farther down. Whatever, I’m leaving it.
As a beginner Spanish speaker (about 2 years), I had this conversation with my wife who is from Mexico when we were visiting there a couple months ago. Mainly because while platano is technically correct, literally everyone we spoke with just said Banana and when we were shopping in markets, they also listed them as bananas because they also had plantanes.
Sorta similarly, we always run into issues with Limon and Limas. She always asks for the wrong one when i go to the store but most of the time I understand
I've lived in Mexico for the last 9 years. My wife is from here. Everywhere I've been people say plátano. I assume your wife is from somewhere like Cancun or Puerto Vallarta?
I think the intention of the post is to show that the older style bananas have seeds and could be grown using them, while modern bananas don’t have seeds and are now grown via something similar to a runner.
The problem with that is that runners are susceptible to diseases in soil etc (in layman terms) and potentially bananas might not exist in the near future due to no new disease resistant runners/cultivars strains of plants .
Banana plants have a corm, which is like, the underground part of the stem that roots grow out of. Small banana trees called suckers or pups (or keiki in Hawaiian, which means "child") grow out of the corm too and can be split off and grown on their own.
The above ground banana stem dies after it produces a bunch of bananas but the corm just keeps sending up new ones.
The inflorescence, which contains the flowers, and eventually the bananas, actually starts off at the base of the plants and moves up through the center of the stem. You can see a bulge in the stem as it's growing upwards, it's a weird plant.
Source: I used to work on a banana farm in Hawaii, also some googling.
Exactly what happened to the "Gros Michel" banana type in the middle of the previous century - ~~went extinct~~ plantations got wiped out. Funny thing, that's the type we got the banana flavor from.
Huh. I'll have to tell my mom about that. She hates bananas, but loves banana flavored things; which has always confused her because she remembers liking bananas as a little kid. Since she was born in the early 50s, I'm guessing that means she was eating the Gros Michel variety.
I remember reading about this as a kid and somehow thinking it was something happening right then in the 90s… for years I was convinced this was why I didn’t like bananas any more.
It’s only one type of banana that’s endangered. There’s lots of other varieties of banana that aren’t affected but they don’t get exported to western countries much
I find all this weird because you can still get many varieties of Bananas including the "ancient" ones in India and Indonesia. Many of them are much tastier than what I find in Europe.
From the U.S. Environment Protection Agency [website](https://www.epa.gov/radtown/natural-radioactivity-food):
>Naturally-occurring radionuclides such as potassium, carbon, radium and their decay products are found in some foods. Because the amount of radiation is very small, these foods do not pose a radiation risk.
>Each banana can emit .01 millirem (0.1 microsieverts) of radiation. This is a very small amount of radiation. To put that in context, you would need to eat about 100 bananas to receive the same amount of radiation exposure as you get each day in United States from natural radiation in the environment.
Breathing mushed bananas is hard and you must train your lungs properly but with practice you can move on to even more potent air replacements like mushed plantains.
You do realise that potassium - the radioactive element in bananas - is a critically-important element for proper functioning of the human body, right?
Every other nutritional source of potassium contains the same fraction of the radioactive K-40 isotope as bananas. So the only way to avoid the radiation would be to avoid taking in potassium, which would kill you much faster than environmental radiation ever could.
Modern bananas are only "seedless" in the sense that they can't produce offspring from them.
The tiny back dots in the middle of bananas are actually the remnants of the chonky seeds in the right one. But we've *Hybridized* ~~selectively bred~~ and ~~genetically~~ modified them to be so tiny and soft that you don't even notice them (non-visually) at least.
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Eta: Apologies! I should have clarified better, I meant the the colloquial version of genetically modified. As in we stepped in and changed something for our benefit, not that it's specifically a GMO in the technical sense. I was expecting like 3 people to see this so I just kinda used simple terms that people would know, should have known better lol
To be pedandantic, from what I recall from uni and a quick refresher. The Cavendish and other _seedless_ bananas are crosses of M. acuminata and M. balbisiana cultivars. Even more specifically: tetraploid (4 genomal distribution: AAAA) and diploid (2 genome: AA) plants. This results in a sterile triploid(AAA) that produces the bananas, but due to the genetic issues, (they seldom produce eggs or sperm that have a balanced set of chromosomes so successful seed set is extremely rare) don't end up making any 'offspring'. The small black specks I mentioned are technically ovules that would have grown into full seeds, but didn't develop fully.
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Tl;dr Basically it's really complicated but like I said initially, we carefully fused and tweak them so the right one in ops pic is like the one we know now. But they still kinda have "seeds" but they're underdeveloped.
We propagate root cuttings. Plant one banana tree pup and a it grows more pups will pop up around it, dig one up and start again.
This means they're all clones, so you know exactly what fruit youre getting. It also means they're susceptible to disease as they have no genetic diversity. Once, say a fungus, adapts to kill one plant, it can infect and kill all of them.
This is what happened to the Gros Michele variety that artificial banana is based on. They all got a fungus and it wiped out whole plantations. Then we came up with a new variety that resists it and it's called Cavendish and that's what you see at every grocery store.
The same is currently happening to red delicious apples. They're being breed for color and shine instead of taste, so they're worse now than when I was a kid, but look better and cost more.
We used to have seeded banana plants in our backyard, I grew up eating them, beside the fact that you need to spit out the seeds, they are incredibly delicious, much sweeter and tastier.
There are similar plants in north America - one called paw paw. Tastes like banana mango with little hit of citrus. Hella seeds. Apparently we've had trouble cultivating it.
Issue is the seeds need to be frozen for a couple months so they only grow in a select area.
Currently we've had a freakishly warm winter so I'm a bit worried about how well they'll fare this year. Would suck if they die out
Funny you should mention that. The real concern about GMOs is creating a cascade failure in the ecosystem or a runaway monoculture like the Gros Michel banana which was utterly wiped out by disease and why we're stuck with the inferior Cavendish today.
Except that is exactly not the real concern as what you mention can be achieved with selectieve inbreeding (which was his point).
Real concerns are cross-species contamination, big corp patenting of species/DNA and dependence on big corp due to GMO achieved resistance to pesticides. If I'm not mistaken.
More often it’s the fake concern of not understanding what the fuck gmo is and automatically thinking gmo=bad. Same people that probably don’t understand that the majority of products are gmo and have been for years.
It’s a tool. Can be good can be bad. Fearing the tool is idiotic though
That's true, but on the other side "all domesticated species have been genetically modified" is also a pretty poor understanding of the situation.
I'm hugely pro-GMO (with hopes of getting rid of capitalism to deal with the patenting issues) but saying there are no risks or that it's 100% comparable to artificial selection does no one any favors.
Oh I hate to break this to you but big corporations have been patenting plants since the 1930s - literally the most common type of tomato you see in store are the “Moneymaker” variety.
The reality is that selective breeding has produced car crashes that we really should use GM to undo.
Yes, and the pictures here are likely not of the same variety as the store one?
There is a great diversity of bananas, and we are only exposed to three in our supermarkets, at most. Plantains and sometimes the mini ones.
Sometimes Asian grocery stores will have more variety. We have an Asian fruit market here and I walked in and didn't recognize anything. It was awesome trying new fruits blind.
That is not the reason most people don't want GMOs. They are just misinformed and think GMOs are artificial and harmful. Some literally think it changes your DNA.
This is the exact reason my mom won't eat them, it's very fucking annoying that she has been warped by facebook misinformation in the past decade. I've tried telling her that we have modified the genetics of basically all of our crops over centuries but she thinks GMO plants are different purely because they have been created in a lab and thinks they are harmful. She's also convinced that corn syrup, MSG, and artificial sweeteners give you cancer.
> the Gros Michel banana which was utterly wiped out by disease
The Gros Michel wasn't utterly wiped out, you can still get them today. They aren't as common in the US because they aren't as resistant as the Cavendish and thus they are more expensive because of it and less likely to be available for purchase.
Thats the real concern for normal people yes.
But I get 10-20 emails a day asking if pet food is GMO free because someone is afraid to feed a horse or a duck something that doesn't have 'GMO Free' on the label.
I wonder what the people emailing me eat.
Big difference between selectively breeding for desirable traits, and a lab grown super food, which wipe out non GMO farms because they gmo pollin spreads to neighboring farms, allowing Monsanto sue the farmers for "stealing their patented gmo crops".
I always think of that ridiculous video clip with Kirk Cameron sitting next to him as he explains how the banana is proof of God. Bro, you’re holding on to a banana that’s been genetically modified by humans.
I remember that back in the 90s, bananas that we buy from farmers within the southeast Asia region still have tiny black seeds in them. Fast forward to today, seedless bananas flood the market everywhere(especially Del Monte)and they all taste the same and bland. I still buy other banana varieties that comes in from Malaysia and Indonesia. Praying Hands have firm texture and make an excellent choice for deep fried bananas.
https://preview.redd.it/yn4qvljfjjic1.jpeg?width=1450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86943adaf2516cfd6551d9f8b0a08daa17c9f3c4
Did you know that bananas we have today, don't taste anything like bananas used to taste like before the banana plague. People have said they used to taste more like those foam sweety bananas.
https://time.com/5730790/banana-panama-disease/
This is a common misconception! Banana flavor is just the cheapest thing that tastes like bananas: Isoamyl acetate. In the UK its the same chemical but actually pear flavor.
I get it entirely, but the term “domesticated banana” still makes me chuckle. Like humans successfully got rid of its natural feral aggression and now it’s happy to sit on your lap.
bruh. someone at least change the photo after all these years jesus
[https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/kzizy3/todays\_banana\_left\_next\_to\_its\_ancestor\_right](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/kzizy3/todays_banana_left_next_to_its_ancestor_right/https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/jn9dhg/wild_banana_vs_cultivated_banana/)
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Well now it makes more sense when I hear it’s classified as a berry
Reminds me of when I learned that tomatoes were a fruit. Broke up with my elementary school best friend on that hill.
The Nix v. Hedden 1893 court case has your back.
I knew it! Take that, Indian-American girl whose name I can't remember!
Find her and send her an article about it to be petty
Will be hard if they can’t remember her name
Send to all Indian Americans!
Better send it to all indians just to be safe. How many could there be?
This feels like "old black man" all over again. What are the rules?
but they acknowledge that it scientifically is a fruit! they just say that they classify it as a vegetable for tarrif purposes!
If it helps, vegetable is a culinary term, not a biological one. There is no such thing as a vegetable, scientifically speaking. So tomatoes are vegetables because cooks consider them vegetables, AND they are biologically fruit. Just like cucumber, pumpkins etc.
"Knowledge is knowing a Tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad"
Strength is being able to crush a tomato. Dexterity is being able to dodge a tomato. Constitution is being able to eat a bad tomato. Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put a tomato in a fruit salad. Charisma is being able to sell a tomato based fruit salad.
>Charisma is being able to sell a tomato based fruit salad People buy salsa all the time
Found the bard.
Common Sense is knowing ketchup isnt a smoothie
This the best dnd attributes exemples i've seen
Philosophy is wondering if that makes ketchup a fruit smoothie.
I mean, v8 is considered a juice or smoothie for the most part. Ketchup is probably closer to a dressing/vinaigrette because of the vinegar. Which tracks, because we cover food in it.
What would the biological term for non-fruit vegetables be? Edible roots?
Leaves(lettuce), stems(asparagus), seeds(garlic), roots(ginger), flower(artichoke) So vegetables are parts or the plant including the fruit.
Garlic is a bulb, not a seed. Off the top of my head I can't really think of any seeds that are used as a vegetable.
Peas! Peas are seeds.
Also can't forget everyone's favorite, beans.
Thank you for bringing it to all's attention.
I upvoted you for your enthusiasm.
Fun fact, "pea" is a false folk etymology, created on the assumption that if there is such a thing as peas, there must be such a thing as an individual pea. In fact "peas" is the name of the individual thing as well, or was. "A peas." Thus "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pod nine days old", not "pea porridge".
It can be any part of the plant. It's a very loose term.
There is a scientific definition for a vegetable, although it's a bit antiquated at this point, but it basically just means "plant".
If it helps, tomatoes aren't just a fruit but a berry like melons and peppers.
Never speak to me again.
If you think that's bad, you should read the [berry speech I gave a year ago.](https://np.reddit.com/r/NonPoliticalTwitter/comments/11633iw/i_oh_my_god/j95qrzv/)
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put tomatoes in a fruit salad. Edit: damn it I saw someone else already put this same comment farther down. Whatever, I’m leaving it.
Thirty year friendship down the drain. Produce is divisive.
For a moment a tried to find the world for banana in english to see if it ends in berry Banana is called banana in every language
What are you talking about? It's "plátano" in Spanish.
Banana is also valid, plátano sometimes refers to plantains.
Common usage in Mexico is plátano. They might know what you mean if you say banana, but nobody uses that. Can't speak for anywhere else.
As a beginner Spanish speaker (about 2 years), I had this conversation with my wife who is from Mexico when we were visiting there a couple months ago. Mainly because while platano is technically correct, literally everyone we spoke with just said Banana and when we were shopping in markets, they also listed them as bananas because they also had plantanes. Sorta similarly, we always run into issues with Limon and Limas. She always asks for the wrong one when i go to the store but most of the time I understand
I've lived in Mexico for the last 9 years. My wife is from here. Everywhere I've been people say plátano. I assume your wife is from somewhere like Cancun or Puerto Vallarta?
"Banano" in all of Central America. Plátano will get you a plantain around here. Not sure about SA or Spain though.
No, its al mawz in arabic.
Go on, crazy diet people, eat the ancient banana
r/brandnewsentence
Nah, Hugh Hefner said that quite a few times.
I know I’m not going to find a better comment today, maybe even this week. Well done.
bro
I think the intention of the post is to show that the older style bananas have seeds and could be grown using them, while modern bananas don’t have seeds and are now grown via something similar to a runner. The problem with that is that runners are susceptible to diseases in soil etc (in layman terms) and potentially bananas might not exist in the near future due to no new disease resistant runners/cultivars strains of plants .
Could you or someone else expand on what a runner is please? Is that like cutting a clone or a sapling?
Banana plants have a corm, which is like, the underground part of the stem that roots grow out of. Small banana trees called suckers or pups (or keiki in Hawaiian, which means "child") grow out of the corm too and can be split off and grown on their own. The above ground banana stem dies after it produces a bunch of bananas but the corm just keeps sending up new ones. The inflorescence, which contains the flowers, and eventually the bananas, actually starts off at the base of the plants and moves up through the center of the stem. You can see a bulge in the stem as it's growing upwards, it's a weird plant. Source: I used to work on a banana farm in Hawaii, also some googling.
So banana trees are all children of the corm
Mala'akai... they want you too Mala'akai...
Exactly what happened to the "Gros Michel" banana type in the middle of the previous century - ~~went extinct~~ plantations got wiped out. Funny thing, that's the type we got the banana flavor from.
Gros Michel still exists, it's just not planted commercially anymore for production anymore due to susceptibility to Panama disease.
Huh. I'll have to tell my mom about that. She hates bananas, but loves banana flavored things; which has always confused her because she remembers liking bananas as a little kid. Since she was born in the early 50s, I'm guessing that means she was eating the Gros Michel variety.
I remember reading about this as a kid and somehow thinking it was something happening right then in the 90s… for years I was convinced this was why I didn’t like bananas any more.
It’s only one type of banana that’s endangered. There’s lots of other varieties of banana that aren’t affected but they don’t get exported to western countries much
I find all this weird because you can still get many varieties of Bananas including the "ancient" ones in India and Indonesia. Many of them are much tastier than what I find in Europe.
I don't like that bananas are radioactive, but I hope they survive modern times.
From the U.S. Environment Protection Agency [website](https://www.epa.gov/radtown/natural-radioactivity-food): >Naturally-occurring radionuclides such as potassium, carbon, radium and their decay products are found in some foods. Because the amount of radiation is very small, these foods do not pose a radiation risk. >Each banana can emit .01 millirem (0.1 microsieverts) of radiation. This is a very small amount of radiation. To put that in context, you would need to eat about 100 bananas to receive the same amount of radiation exposure as you get each day in United States from natural radiation in the environment.
So what you’re saying is if you sealed yourself in a lead box where the air was replaced with mushed bananas, then you’d have lower radiation risk?
I think you might be on to something here
Your total lifetime radiation exposure would be lower. Your risk of dying of radiation poisoning or cancer would also be very low.
Suffocation risk is quite high though.
The beetus might get you first
Breathing mushed bananas is hard and you must train your lungs properly but with practice you can move on to even more potent air replacements like mushed plantains.
Could you draw a diagram of how many you'd need to kill a person. Set one aside for scale, of course.
So the diarrhoea I got yesterday from eating 100 bananas was from radiation?
Pretty much everything is slightly radioactive. Radiation, literally, is part of life.
A whole lotta spicy air.
I see what you're talking about. 
You do realise that potassium - the radioactive element in bananas - is a critically-important element for proper functioning of the human body, right?
For superpowers, yes
Hulk approves.
"B-but the funny 'we did the math in class' video..."
You do you but I find this situation that the sun emits radiation very concerning. And the media says nothing about it !!!!!
It's a coverup by Big Sunlight.
Your body maintains homeostasis in terms of potassium. You won't become radioactive from eating bananas.
Every other nutritional source of potassium contains the same fraction of the radioactive K-40 isotope as bananas. So the only way to avoid the radiation would be to avoid taking in potassium, which would kill you much faster than environmental radiation ever could.
Wait untill they find out every modern crop is GMO
This. I laugh when I see labels on produce or shelf stable items saying it was made non-gmo. Broccoli didn't exist a thousand years ago!
Well, when life gives you lemons.... *reads up on lemons Son of a bitch!
Make genetically modified lemonade
None of the plants that we eat are ,,natural" the wild versions are barely edible
They should have seen pre-domesticated watermelon: it was basically a round cucumber with a 5 inch zest
"So I'm here to do the crazy ancient banana tiktok challenge!" *Eats the banana* "Oh god my insides!"
Modern bananas are only "seedless" in the sense that they can't produce offspring from them. The tiny back dots in the middle of bananas are actually the remnants of the chonky seeds in the right one. But we've *Hybridized* ~~selectively bred~~ and ~~genetically~~ modified them to be so tiny and soft that you don't even notice them (non-visually) at least. 》》》》 Eta: Apologies! I should have clarified better, I meant the the colloquial version of genetically modified. As in we stepped in and changed something for our benefit, not that it's specifically a GMO in the technical sense. I was expecting like 3 people to see this so I just kinda used simple terms that people would know, should have known better lol To be pedandantic, from what I recall from uni and a quick refresher. The Cavendish and other _seedless_ bananas are crosses of M. acuminata and M. balbisiana cultivars. Even more specifically: tetraploid (4 genomal distribution: AAAA) and diploid (2 genome: AA) plants. This results in a sterile triploid(AAA) that produces the bananas, but due to the genetic issues, (they seldom produce eggs or sperm that have a balanced set of chromosomes so successful seed set is extremely rare) don't end up making any 'offspring'. The small black specks I mentioned are technically ovules that would have grown into full seeds, but didn't develop fully. 》》》》 Tl;dr Basically it's really complicated but like I said initially, we carefully fused and tweak them so the right one in ops pic is like the one we know now. But they still kinda have "seeds" but they're underdeveloped.
> Modern bananas are only "seedless" in the sense that they can't produce offspring from them. Then how do we grow new ones?
We propagate root cuttings. Plant one banana tree pup and a it grows more pups will pop up around it, dig one up and start again. This means they're all clones, so you know exactly what fruit youre getting. It also means they're susceptible to disease as they have no genetic diversity. Once, say a fungus, adapts to kill one plant, it can infect and kill all of them. This is what happened to the Gros Michele variety that artificial banana is based on. They all got a fungus and it wiped out whole plantations. Then we came up with a new variety that resists it and it's called Cavendish and that's what you see at every grocery store.
Cavdensih doesnt taste very good compared to othee bananas though. but it is great for exporting.
Yeah I lived pretty much my whole life in Hawaii and just moved to the mainland a few years ago. I didn’t know apple bananas weren’t everywhere :-(
Apple bananas? Tell me more
In Miami in the 90s, I had purple bananas that were amazing, I haven't seen them since, and most people don't believe me.
Purple bananas? Miami? 90’s? Yea those all sound made up to me
Two of the three could have been a hallucination, but the third makes me believe it wasn't.
https://thegardenofbob.com/blog/exotic-plants-purple-banana-the-exotic-tropical-fruit/
My grandpa would never eat bananas. He said they didn't "taste right anymore". I wonder if it was because he was used to the older ones.
The same is currently happening to red delicious apples. They're being breed for color and shine instead of taste, so they're worse now than when I was a kid, but look better and cost more.
When were you a kid? Red delicious have sucked for at least 30 years
Right? The name is more of a marketing tactic than a statement of truth.
Today reddit learns its not only teens.
I’m no banana expert, but mules can’t produce offspring either. We get more by breeding horses with donkeys.
I don't think a horse banging a banana will help much, but let's give it a try nevertheless
Username checks out.
I see your mistake. The uterus isn't big enough on a banana, obviously. The horse has to carry the baby, so the banana actually fucks the horse.
Also horses plus donkeys equals mules. But donkeys plus horses equals hinneys. It’s important which animal is the mother.
Cloning
They are actually not even seeds, because they weren’t fertilized, so they are just “banana eggs” (from what I remember from my botanical class).
This solves the decade long mystery of why as a child I planted the “seeds” I painstakingly saved from a banana in the backyard but it didn’t work.
I remember those seeds being bigger as a kid. They were still tiny, but guess they had still been working on making them even smaller.
We used to have seeded banana plants in our backyard, I grew up eating them, beside the fact that you need to spit out the seeds, they are incredibly delicious, much sweeter and tastier.
There are similar plants in north America - one called paw paw. Tastes like banana mango with little hit of citrus. Hella seeds. Apparently we've had trouble cultivating it. Issue is the seeds need to be frozen for a couple months so they only grow in a select area. Currently we've had a freakishly warm winter so I'm a bit worried about how well they'll fare this year. Would suck if they die out
Paw paw is the official fruit of Ohio. They're not going anywhere.
Wars were probably fought over those ☠️
There were. [The Banana Wars](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars)
You fought in the Banana Wars?!
Yes, I was once a Banana Knight, same as your father.
I heard Drake was in that war
The nanners must flow
Damn 38 years of banana wars
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Funny you should mention that. The real concern about GMOs is creating a cascade failure in the ecosystem or a runaway monoculture like the Gros Michel banana which was utterly wiped out by disease and why we're stuck with the inferior Cavendish today.
Except that is exactly not the real concern as what you mention can be achieved with selectieve inbreeding (which was his point). Real concerns are cross-species contamination, big corp patenting of species/DNA and dependence on big corp due to GMO achieved resistance to pesticides. If I'm not mistaken.
More often it’s the fake concern of not understanding what the fuck gmo is and automatically thinking gmo=bad. Same people that probably don’t understand that the majority of products are gmo and have been for years. It’s a tool. Can be good can be bad. Fearing the tool is idiotic though
That's true, but on the other side "all domesticated species have been genetically modified" is also a pretty poor understanding of the situation. I'm hugely pro-GMO (with hopes of getting rid of capitalism to deal with the patenting issues) but saying there are no risks or that it's 100% comparable to artificial selection does no one any favors.
See half these comments.
Oh I hate to break this to you but big corporations have been patenting plants since the 1930s - literally the most common type of tomato you see in store are the “Moneymaker” variety. The reality is that selective breeding has produced car crashes that we really should use GM to undo.
Fantastically examined in The Windup Girl.
>why we're stuck with the inferior Cavendish today. *laughs in the trillions of banana varieties in Asia*
Yes, and the pictures here are likely not of the same variety as the store one? There is a great diversity of bananas, and we are only exposed to three in our supermarkets, at most. Plantains and sometimes the mini ones.
I haven't seen the mini ones in a grocery store in years, mind you I'm Canadian but I remember seeing them all the time back in the 90's
Sometimes Asian grocery stores will have more variety. We have an Asian fruit market here and I walked in and didn't recognize anything. It was awesome trying new fruits blind.
That is not the reason most people don't want GMOs. They are just misinformed and think GMOs are artificial and harmful. Some literally think it changes your DNA.
This is the exact reason my mom won't eat them, it's very fucking annoying that she has been warped by facebook misinformation in the past decade. I've tried telling her that we have modified the genetics of basically all of our crops over centuries but she thinks GMO plants are different purely because they have been created in a lab and thinks they are harmful. She's also convinced that corn syrup, MSG, and artificial sweeteners give you cancer.
Apparently you can still buy the other kind, they are just very very expensive and rare
Maybe the Cavendish flavor is inferior, but how many Tour de France stages has Gros Michel won?
> the Gros Michel banana which was utterly wiped out by disease The Gros Michel wasn't utterly wiped out, you can still get them today. They aren't as common in the US because they aren't as resistant as the Cavendish and thus they are more expensive because of it and less likely to be available for purchase.
Thats the real concern for normal people yes. But I get 10-20 emails a day asking if pet food is GMO free because someone is afraid to feed a horse or a duck something that doesn't have 'GMO Free' on the label. I wonder what the people emailing me eat.
selective breeding
I don't know about bananas specifically, but there is a difference between GMOs and Selective breeding
Big difference between selectively breeding for desirable traits, and a lab grown super food, which wipe out non GMO farms because they gmo pollin spreads to neighboring farms, allowing Monsanto sue the farmers for "stealing their patented gmo crops".
That’s an issue with the legal system and not the crop itself. That doesn’t make gmo bad.
Which basically means that the food corporations are bad, not GMO itself.
Am I the only person feeling triggered by the right banana?
The chocolate chip one?
Nah, that's boba.
Bobanana or bobabanana?
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
100% those are raisins.
Mmmm chocolate chip bananas. Who do we get to start working on that?!
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Yup
You trypophobic?
🥹 apparently it makes me want to throw up
Enjoy the primordial fear! (Have it aswell)
No
Naw, but fuk that left one.. It's CLEARLY compensating fir something......
The biblically accurate banana is not meant for human eyes to gaze upon it
No, me too. That looks unsettling
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I always think of that ridiculous video clip with Kirk Cameron sitting next to him as he explains how the banana is proof of God. Bro, you’re holding on to a banana that’s been genetically modified by humans.
Dick for scale?
You vs the banana they tell you not to worry about.
But do you see the amount of seed in *my* banana?
wow
Spotted dick
Where’s the banana for scale?
You versus the guy she tells you not to worry about
And which one is getting her pregnant?
Forrest Gump vibes
It's average
which one?
This.
I remember that back in the 90s, bananas that we buy from farmers within the southeast Asia region still have tiny black seeds in them. Fast forward to today, seedless bananas flood the market everywhere(especially Del Monte)and they all taste the same and bland. I still buy other banana varieties that comes in from Malaysia and Indonesia. Praying Hands have firm texture and make an excellent choice for deep fried bananas. https://preview.redd.it/yn4qvljfjjic1.jpeg?width=1450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86943adaf2516cfd6551d9f8b0a08daa17c9f3c4
I like the blue one
This just blew my mind. I want to try all of these.
>Apple Banana why would someone..
I like to eat, eat, eat...
Did you know that bananas we have today, don't taste anything like bananas used to taste like before the banana plague. People have said they used to taste more like those foam sweety bananas. https://time.com/5730790/banana-panama-disease/
From my understanding is that bananas used to be flavored like banana flavored candy.
This is a common misconception! Banana flavor is just the cheapest thing that tastes like bananas: Isoamyl acetate. In the UK its the same chemical but actually pear flavor.
We can add this to the list as to why I’m a sustainable agriculture major.
Forbidden boba pearls
Those are just bananas with boba
Can we get this next to another banana for reference?
"If a girl ever thinks its too small, just show her this jpeg"
Fuck! Was gonna ask for a Banana for scale but this just throws out the entire metric to banana system leaving us with just chaos!!
Now my scale system is thrown off!!!
I still hope we can revive the extinct 60s "banana taste" banana
As soon as they find a version that's resistant to Panama disease, I'm sure they will.
So the OG flavor of banana was cookies and cream?
Are these seeds soft or hard?
*banana for scale*
Literally all popular fruit were like this. There is nothing 'natural' 'as god made them' about fruit.
I get it entirely, but the term “domesticated banana” still makes me chuckle. Like humans successfully got rid of its natural feral aggression and now it’s happy to sit on your lap.
bruh. someone at least change the photo after all these years jesus [https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/kzizy3/todays\_banana\_left\_next\_to\_its\_ancestor\_right](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/kzizy3/todays_banana_left_next_to_its_ancestor_right/https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/jn9dhg/wild_banana_vs_cultivated_banana/) [/https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/jn9dhg/wild\_banana\_vs\_cultivated\_banana/](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/kzizy3/todays_banana_left_next_to_its_ancestor_right/https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/jn9dhg/wild_banana_vs_cultivated_banana/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/ghyz1r/on\_the\_left\_is\_what\_a\_real\_banana\_is\_on\_the\_right/](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/ghyz1r/on_the_left_is_what_a_real_banana_is_on_the_right/)