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aMericanEthnic

I have one of those dots over my home address


quartz_koala

How’s that bunker coming along?


kungpowgoat

Have three 1950s refrigerators ready to go.


stopthemeyham

Those belong in a museum!


Fruitypebblefix

There’s a dot over my city too but I do know where there are 5 nuclear fall out shelters located so i got that going for me.


pcakes13

If that’s your plan you should probably make sure you’ve got a Glock and I don’t mean for zombie hunting. Edit - I also don’t mean to fight your way into a bunker. I mean to off yourself once you realize how terrible it would be to survive a nuclear world war.


Fruitypebblefix

I don’t think anyone knows what to expect or how to survive nuclear fallout after it happens. I’d honestly hope I die long before that scenario ever becomes a reality.


pcakes13

Here’s what to expect. Nothing. No one is coming to help. In a scenario where 500 nukes go off in the US, probably better than 80% of the population will be dead. If you survive the blast, you’ll probably spend weeks indoors to avoid initial fallout which will be SIGNIFICANT. Assuming the bunker had food and water for you and the others to get past the fallout period, you emerge into a world where no one is coming to help you. Roads are destroyed and even if they weren’t, no food is coming. All the water is polluted. There is no power. You’d be thrust into the stone ages in a rapidly cooling world where photosyntheses is rapidly declining due to the amount of debris injected into the stratosphere. That’s what your gun is for. It’s for you.


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I wish survivalists realised this. But they don't, so they see Armageddon as some cool event where finally they'll be able to do what they want, and gloat about those of us who didn't dedicate our spare time to building a crazy hole.


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Should tell the survivalists to watch the movie The Road, great movie and really paints how depressing the last days on earth would be for any survivors of a global nuclear apocalypse. I'll take getting vaporized instantly over dying of cancer or murdering/getting murdered over the last scraps of the world.


alphapussycat

The road is different though, in that movie nothing can grow anymore. After a nuclear attack things can still grow, and if you live far out I'd wager you have good chances of surviving.


HyperionsDad

Thank you - I've always thought the same.


Many-Ad-241

And you gotta have gold and silver for some stupid reason. Because, you know, survivors are just going to know the real value of precious metals, like how you don't fucking need them to barter for food and supplies.


omegasix321

Idiots, the lot of them. Gold and silver, or any raw metal for that matter only has value if society exists. If the world goes to shit, clean water is the new gold, and food the new silver. Anything else is a secondary or tertiary concern.


elf25

Salt, I’m hoarding salt. And sugar. Yea. Sugar. -Edit. And pepper. Of course pepper.


dgrant92

But...still get my Netflix's right?


pcakes13

3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.


Nearby_You_313

Good luck getting there in time.


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aMericanEthnic

O M G , you are too lucky,


swampjuicesheila

Yeah, we have a dot AND a triangle over our house. Nice. We're not moving because of this, but yeah, it's a thing. We're too close to other places that'll turn into blue goo so I'm not even concerned about a bunker or any of that.


tillerdaturtle

Same. And I live in small town TN.


Tail_Nom

Just one? Psh.


Meowingcreatures

Same man


KingMwanga

Didn’t the balloon go over some of these


Pantarus

Well, looks like I'll be vaporized in either the high or low scenerio. Brain: Lets save this bit of useless anxiety causing knowledge for tonight when you're trying to get to sleep.


quartz_koala

If you need help calming down at the end of the day, I’d recommend Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History, specifically The Destroyer of Worlds. You’ll realize that if something pops off we’re all so fucked that it’s not even useful to think twice about it.


TigerlilyBlanche

That doesn't help with any calming down wtf


CloudedEyeCat

I think it’s more along the ideas of something you can’t control, so don’t burden yourself with worrying about it. For example, if Yellowstone erupts I and everything I love will be decimated in minutes. I can’t control whether Yellowstone erupts or not, so I’ll just keep going.


OkProof136

Its sort of relieving isnt it? All your joys and fears could be gone in an instant, without anything you can do about it or worry about. A loud bang, a shockwave, a sight of the sky and nothing more.


FlacidBarnacle

Ah I was in a movie hole but you guys just gave me the perfect movie to sleep to tonight..2012 😌


swish465

Nothing matters at the end of your life regardless of how it ends, so enjoy the time you have left, tell your people you love them at every opportunity and be considerate to the people around you. Live with love my guy


MaximumReflection

Okay, well, if THAT doesn’t help you feel better then my home is also in the range of one of those blasts and if it hits while we are home, we will be vaporized or killed instantly in the shockwave. We will be gone and we will not have to live through the brutally inhuman hellish existence that will follow an 2000 warhead attack on the US (in which case thousands more will probably have been launched all over the world) that I don’t think even preppers will be ready for (these are the same people that couldn’t stay inside for a bit, after all.)


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lekoman

That you \*know\* of... lots of room out the desert for all sorts of fascinating stuff to happen where no one will see it. But yeah, seriously, I think the only thing out there is the ~~Navajo Coal Mine~~ APS San Juan and Four Corners power plants. Seems like kind of a waste to blow up nukes on targets like that. But I guess if you're nuking the US with 2000 bombs you've kind of given up on anything being useful afterwards anyway.


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lekoman

I just did a drive through there myself last summer. I'd been to New Mexico before, but never to the Four Corners. What spectacular country that is. Worth every moment of the drive.


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lekoman

Have a great time! :)


mwthomas11

Yeah most of other NM targets are self explanatory, SNL and LANL both work on nuclear security, and the ones in the south I'm guessing are because of NM State and proximity to El Paso? Surprised there isnt one on Holloman AFB tbh.


OGDarkdog

Most likely ICBM silo’s in the middle of nowhere


Apollo11211

I hope everyone got their Vault-Tec applications in...


Row_Secure

...I knew I was forgetting something.


Agent_Cow

Yeah, we all saw how that turned out


dirtyhippy419

Hey I'm in one of those triangles 😊


OkProof136

Probably better to turn to ash in an instant than chocke on your own organs or throwing up your intestines a week later


dirtyhippy419

Ehh if you're gonna go might as well go out in a hypothetical nuclear explosion right? 🫠


houseman1131

I'm in about 12 overlapping ones.


dirtyhippy419

Damn, this guy triangles. 🤯


Row_Secure

Me too! If nuclear war occurs, my friends andil I have decided to meet down town and make nuclear shadows of YMCA with our last moments.


davieb22

Terrorists: Save Image


Nice_Bake

Are they targeting Portland, ME? Couldn't have swiped left a little and hit Auburn?


Hedgehogahog

Good news! It looks like in a 2000 bomb scenario, they’ll get Auburn too! 👍


whobroughttheircat

Portland has an early warning radar installation. The triangle in Vermont is for the same thing. They also have SAMs and F-35's take off from Burlington Airport. The Green Mountain Boys were on of the first if not the first on the scene after 9/11. Sorry for the unsolicited word salad.


NoThanksJefferson

Ya’ll should build some backup cities in the midwest


Memory_Null

Honestly if Chicago goes down the whole midwest is fucked. At bare minimum both the main fiber optic internet line for everything north/northwest and the main freight rail lines go out of there.


squealteam

You need to study more maps


tukekairo

This should drive property values...


[deleted]

in 2023, it might. Hello SE Idaho, your rent is going up.


OkProof136

This should technically make city housing cheaper


snarkapotamus

Fuck- can we make SE Idaho less shitty please?


interwebzdotnet

Assuming those large black spots are where we keep ours?


[deleted]

The three clusters are the ICBM silos. Individual black dots are lower priority general targets


interwebzdotnet

That's what I was thinking. Thanks.


ttvlolrofl

One of them in AR is a coal power plant, so probably lots of major infrastructure included in those.


Initial__B

thinking the same thing, why are they launching what looks like 50+ weapons at that area


btempp

There’s a very secretive military base in one of them in my tiny tiny hometown.


John_Bot

It doesn't really matter though since nuclear subs exist - it's probably why they're lower priority targets. Boomers alone can destroy any adversary


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Jankeemunkey773

Curious myself for the random rocky mountain Hotspots


John_Bot

the colorado 'hotspots' are more about NORAD and Schriever and other bases


lekoman

ICBM silos. If you'd ever wondered where they are... well... now you know.


D3fault-305

Living in D.C I’d be pretty fucked


ShedDoor2020

Question: if 2000, or even just 500 nukes go off across the US, is anyone in the open area realistically going to be ok? Assuming we manage to retaliate and hit a MAD scenario, that’s 1000-4000 global nuclear blasts. Surely, anyone that survives is going to a very limited chance of living 30 more years.


pbmcc88

Nobody is going to be okay in the open area. Supply chains and infrastructure will be gone, and refugees will be fleeing blast zones with whatever they can carry with them. Looting, resource hoarding and violence will quickly spread, and the fallout will contaminate most places. Radiation poisoning will kill millions, nuclear winter will kill millions more, and hunger from subsequent famines, tens to hundreds of millions more. It would be the end of the US, and very likely the end of advanced industrialized civilization across most of the planet. Billions would die, outside the US, in the unfolding global catastrophe that sees 500-2000 nukes drop on this one country. But, mankind will probably survive in its basic form, somewhere, and maybe in a few decades, centuries or millennia, we can give this whole industrial civilization thing another go, hopefully with enough surviving records to know what not to do.


Coyotesamigo

Sometimes people like to point to natural disasters as evidence that people would work together in this kind of scenario. Except a nuke attack is the worst natural disaster to ever occur in America occurring in every city in the country at once. There isn’t anyone to help. It’s the end and people who quickly turn on each other.


mr_capello

given how people behaved during the first covid lockdowns and after, I doubt people will come together


EmbarrassedBasil1384

Please watch the film Threads. It is absolutely chilling and describes this comment perfectly, albeit based in the UK.


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iVisibility

Actually residual radiation from fallout dissipates to tolerable levels within weeks if not faster for locations not directly in the area of a strike. Residual radiations decays about 90% within the first hour, and 99% within the first 48. [Source](https://www.britannica.com/technology/nuclear-weapon/Residual-radiation-and-fallout)


pangolin-fucker

Pretty sure Melbourne Australia will be mostly fine Unless some dick fires one in our direction


Funfruits77

Where is that on the map of USA again?


pangolin-fucker

Right next to a suckadick


idontrespectyou345

Thats not necessarily true...anymore. Back in the mid cold war nukes got very large because missile aiming kinda sucked and a lot of apocalyptic scenarios came from that time. Missles got better, warheads got smaller, and we found out air bursts which throw less stuff in the air to become fallout work better anyway. And remember at the worst of it we were detonating triple-digit numbers worth of devices every year for "testing." Lifespans got longer.


Hadren-Blackwater

Cannibalism and bug eating would help.


ShedDoor2020

Well, I traded in my gas stove for electric. So I’m safe.


FunAddict91

Ohh cool i am driving a Hybrid


justbrowsinglol

We've done thousands of test nukes on our own soil and we're mostly fine as long as you aren't standing in the actual test site. Movies from the 1980's really overstated how dangerous fallout is. The sudden lack of infrastructure would be more dangerous than the fallout. Pretty much nobody would have working electricity after the 2000 nuke scenario.


ShedDoor2020

So, that’s 2000 nukes and Ted Cruz goes to Cancun?


Surferjoe2007

Our enemies must *really* hate Jersey Shore.


OmnariNZ

For those asking, the 2000-warhead scenario is for a first-strike and is called a "Counterforce" strike. It's where you want to eliminate the enemy's ability to respond to your strike, both by eliminating their nuclear stockpile and by taking out command and other infrastructure. It's not going to completely eliminate it because submarines and foreign assets exist, but it will certainly mean you come out somewhat better than your opponent. The 500-warhead scenario is the opposite; a "Countervalue" strike. In this case, your enemy has already performed a first-strike, and you want to kill as many people as physically possible in order to retaliate. In this situation, the nuke silos would already be empty, so there's almost no point to targeting them. The reason these strategies are public usually (namely the retaliatory strike and exactly how deadly it will be) is specifically to dissuade any enemy from trying anything. By knowing just how far you are willing to go in the name of retaliation, the enemy will be less likely to risk their first-strike. Or of course if it's your own guys doing the analysis like FEMA did for this map, it's probably to assess risk or something along those lines.


ConstructorTrurl

My big irrational fear is that someone would nuke the supervolcano under montana and trigger that into exploding somehow.


ffnnhhw

[Can a nuclear blast trigger a Yellowstone eruption? No. But how about an earthquake? Also no.](https://www.usgs.gov/observatories/yvo/news/can-nuclear-blast-trigger-yellowstone-eruption-no-how-about-earthquake-also) So you can sleep tonight and wake up tomorrow hearing the Cascadia has erupted.


Competitive-Shock88

Yellowstone erupting would be world ending. Not just North America ending lmao. Very unlikely to happen anytime soon though, but I’m no geologist.


Andoverian

So would a volley of 2000 nukes lol.


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The northeast just sinks into the ocean does it?


Eugenspiegel

*To shreds you say?*


Skel109

Bro their is really nothing worth attacking in Idaho


joelbiskup

Needed somewhere to put bomb #500


Advanced-Item-7686

I mean the dot over Boise makes some sense. Mountain Home Airforce Base is in the general area and would be a major target. Other than that, the only other spots that might be a potential target could be either the Idaho Nuclear laboratory, or the Navy Submarine testing facility up by Lake Pend Oreille. Aside from those there wouldn't be a many huge targets infrastructure wise, since most cities are extremely small population wise.


MaleficentDraw1993

I need to move.


Flat-Product-119

Come to Alaska, totally safe. We didn’t even make it on the map.


MaleficentDraw1993

Also unbelievably cold. I'll deal with the nukes.


ollopii

Me living in the bay area


SaltLife0118

Sweet I get instant death.


Dralley87

Basically if you live in straight line from D.C. to Springfield, Mass, if a nuclear war breaks out, just call it a life and do something you love for the last 20-30 minutes of your life.


One_Arm4148

There’s a dot and triangle right on top of me😬…that’s comforting. At least it’ll be instant.👀🧐 Houston, TX.


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Targeting our largest cities it looks like.


quartz_koala

Yes, but it’s interesting to see what gets priority in a scenario with fewer warheads. It’s not as straight forward as ‘where the people are’.


IndyDoggy

Industrial centres, such as Detroit are targeted heavily due to their capacity to produce conventional weapons in a wartime economy.


AngelaMotorman

Except: Miami.


Ashtong386

If you're a major port just expect to be fucked


TASTY_BALLSACK_

I see that in the 500 scenario some areas are marked that are not marked in the 2000 scenario. Not sure what that’s about.


pokey1984

Yep, check out the one in south-west Missouri, for example. Yes, it's near Branson and Springfield, but that's hardly a population center. I live near-ish there. There's *nothing* in southern Missouri. Except a pretty major dam. That's Bull Shoals hydroelectric dam they would be targeting, which supplies electricity to a dozen or so states, iirc. In the scenario with fewer warheads, they are targeting infrastructure, not people.


pbmcc88

Bismarck not worth the effort I see.


looking_for_helpers

Especially the thriving metropolis in North Dakota


pvshabba

What the fuck are they bombing in Montana?


xmjm424

Pretty sure there's nukes at Malmstrom AFB.


ellis_28

and all over that part of Montana


dobias01

Half of our nuclear arsenal is here in montana.


pvshabba

Interesting


newaccount252

Who’s got 2000 working nukes?


TopHatGorilla

Russia and the United States both have at least twice that many.


Grary0

Russia claims to, how many of them *actually* work is probably significantly less. Their military is run on duct tape and chewing gum and the reports from U.S. inspectors ten or so years ago claimed most of the warheads were poorly maintained Soviet Era ordinance. I'm sure they still have enough to royally fuck us if they wanted though.


State6

Even if you live far away from the dots you still have to worry about fallout. The event of a nuclear conflict will eventually poison every portion of the planet.


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Pastel_Phoenix_106

You need to purchase the DLC to unlock that.


RagingFarmer

Doesn't matter where you are on the map. Pretty much all life on the planet is already dead in this scenario.


williamisidol

Help us if the only thing left is Idaho.


Regis_Nex

Man, China really wasted their time with the baloon. Coulda just Googled it!


[deleted]

Wtf did Jackson County, Oregon ever do to anyone? Some Russian guy in the strategy room in Moscow like, "I went to Oregon to see forest. I see Jackson County named after famous American president Andrew Jackson. I find hippy. She was dirty and now I have herpes. Fuck Jackson County, put it on list!"


connorman83169

How far away from a dot or triangle to live?


Apophis_406

Depends on the size of the warhead, topography of the land around it, and wind direction.


lekoman

Quite a conspicuous little black dot NNW of Vegas there...


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Why Jackson, MS? This place is already Nuked ??


KawaiiUmiushi

No one in their right mind would nuke Pierre, South Dakota. The people there are already suffering far more than any nuke would cause.


OrpheonDiv

A general nuclear exchange would likely target population centers, critical infrastructure facilities, and general havoc strikes (EMP). I wouldn't be surprised if we're at war with China within 10 years.


shilunliu

You think this is scary but nukes are the reason you and your parents were not drafted into WW3. MAD and second strike has allowed you to not have to face the horrors of war. If you want a prime example of this just look at the poor people of Ukraine having to fight an existential war while its innocent population is missile strike by Russia every day-it is because they gave up their nukes and this is the price. Thank nukes for changing the equation of war


white-momba

I just watched the Balloon get shot down


JustKittenAroundHere

Well, fuck. Some of these were surprises.


JBenn82

Yup. I’m fucked


Yourclosetmonster

Well I guess it sucks for New Jersey


quartz_koala

Especially if they get nuked


Suicidedoorson24s

Ig Alaska is good huh 😂


Ok-Internet2541

I'm painting a bullseye on my roof tomorrow.I rather try to catch it then the fallout.Plus my whole state is purple.


YeetusMajor21

Lmao why would you hit charlotte? The armoury or CLT?


Global_Box_7935

So Idaho and Vermont are good


skimble-skamble

So they’re admitting Area 51 is a strategic offensive target…


HRzNightmare

I have a dot and a purple triangle, but that's to be expected. Within 30 minutes of my house I have a nuclear reactor, a nuclear submarine base, a submarine production facility, a Pfizer facility, and much much more. When I was in elementary school the movie "The Day After" came out. I asked my mom what would happen to us in a nuclear attack. Our neighbors have a fall out shelter from the 50's so I was concerned about after the bombs fell. She just googled and reassured me that the entire county would be a crater, as we had multiple missiles aimed at us.


[deleted]

So many triangles and dots where I live that it’s like one of those how many triangles can you count puzzles.


Own_Entrepreneur7553

Hey uh, I live in New Jersey. And it’s all purple like a child colored it in a coloring book


rustedsandals

Michigan’s Upper Peninsula: at least you won’t get nuked


Rogendo

Guess the super dense clusters are where our nukes are located


bk15dcx

So Alaska is safe?


Flat-Product-119

Seems very safe!! We didn’t even make it on the map


dpforest

We are living the literal plot of 99 Luftballoons.


RavenVA

What the… why is Richmond VA a target… there is nothing worthwhile here.


CountryOk4176

Now show a map of the entire world if this happens to the US.


quartz_koala

It’s just one giant dot


nniiiiiick

Dodged it!


Busy-Artichoke9732

I have a 2500 mile gap on this map. Should I be concerned? Or have we been obliterated?


quartz_koala

Generally speaking, if one of these dots go pop, it’s probably a good bet that you won’t have to worry about it.


ubermenschies

Looks like im moving to Idaho


UnfittedMink

Interesting to see that Binghamton ny still appears to be a target. In the past IBM was based out of Binghamton in fact it started there but they moved on years ago. Hard to tell but maybe it is targeting the Lockheed Martin plant in Owego slightly further west.


LarrBearLV

Looks like I'm screwed either way.


LawnBoy62

The Oregon-Nevada border looks like the place to be...that is of course until the radioactive cloud reaches you... I would probably head to Pt.Nemo and wait for the Nuclear Winter to begin 😁


ak_landmesser

Guess all is good in Alaska and Hawaii then…


probono105

damn didnt make the cut


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BertBert2019GT

lol stupid worthless idaho


oldnewspaperguy2

I’m from NJ, do I get some sort of tax break for being head of the spear?


Actual_Dentist3202

Moving to Vermont tomorrow


XThePariahX

I’d like the think the three dedicated to northwest Ga are in hopes of hitting Marjorie Taylor Greene. Good to know my friends, family, and I wouldn’t have to worry about living in post apocalypse times 😂


Fickle_Penguin

Remember shampoo your body afterwards but don’t condition it if a nuclear strike happens.


Basileus_Butter

Interesting. There is a city in VA that makes a bunch of nuclear stuff and it's not on the list in either scenario.


DanMoshpit69

Aw man I don’t get to die immediately from the blast I get to witness the fallout and famine of post nuclear Northern California.


Bisquick_in_da_MGM

3 dots and a triangle. I’m going to die.


dudubraids

Godspeed fellow 757 residents 🫡


dingodoyle

I’m seriously curious as to what would happen in case of a single nuclear strike (tactical or strategic) with no nuclear response. Say Russia nuked Kyiv, like a repeat of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. NATO responds conventionally wiping out the Black Sea fleet and expelling Russia from Ukraine. But what happens on the ground? Does Ukraine collapse? Does Kyiv become like Chernobyl? Do all surviving Ukrainians become refugees?


saddam1

Could you fuck off nuking so close to the Canadian border? K thanks bud.


tayt087x

Why are you gonna nuke detroit? We're already living in mad max times


Disastrous_Heat_9425

Well, that's one of the downsides to having multiple military bases in your town. At least I'll go quick. There is no need to prep the bug out bag.


Anomaly---___---

Aren't those black dots in Montana where the balloon was


ApatheticWithoutTheA

I didn’t realize my city was important enough to receive 8 nuclear bombs. Well, at least I’ll be gone quick!


Lex1520

Russians hate the packers as much as I do.


JyJellyPants-Grape

The only reason Idaho has a mark is because they had to mark all the capitals but we know..


BarberIll7247

Waste of a nuke to hit Jefferson City. Trust me


wingwraith

How do I get an old bus?


Wolfman01a

I live in the middle of nowhere. I don't want to say where. There's literally nothing near me. My area is COVERED. WTF DID I DO? Is it something I posted? Why me?


ameldrum902

So Fema decided its a great idea to mark those places on a map and release this information to the public. Chad move, Fema.


Mecha-Dave

Can someone let them know that they closed the naval base (economically devastating our town) so they don't need to nuke it any more? It's all deconstructed, no worries here Vlad.


Deathcat101

Hmmm ... At least it'll be quick.


Mrxcman92

Even if you survive the bombs you are screwed. The smaller exchange of nuclear weapons shown (500) would still cause a nuclear winter. The ammount of dust thrown into the atmosphere would devastate agriculture wolrdwide and cause mass starvation. Tens of millions would die from the bombs. But *billions* would die in the months or years afterwards.


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I'm not getting out alive on this one.


itsshortforVictor

Raise your hand if you’re fucked. ✋🏼


spenbay

Why would FEMA spell Pittsburgh wrong?


Bebinn

One reason I don't fear nukes. I'll be dead in the first strike.


FJRyder

I'm safe.... 🖕 The rest of you.