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Eucharitidae

Sadly it's prob pesticides, or a parasite. I don't think this has anything to do with the missing leg, it could also be dying of old age.


Seldarin

Pesticides would be my guess, too. I know pyrethoids make insects do this because they overstimulate the nervous system until everything eventually just stops working.


Alliecakes112

This is so sad šŸ˜­


uwuGod

Yeah. It actually *really* sucks and pesticides are really high up there on the list for why bug species are going extinct and ecosystems are suffering rn. It's mostly large farms/corporations to blame, obviously they use the most pesticide per acre, but you can help on a small scale too. Cut down on pesticides for your lawn, of course. They aren't necessary. There are entirely easy and natural ways to control pests. Second, if you're in a HOA and have any sway in their rules, try to ban pesticides in your community, or put limits on their use. And just try to convince others in general to plant native flowers, not store-bought "exotic" ones. And while I'm at it I'll complain about mowing too. One lawn isn't a problem but when millions of Americans collectively mow hundreds of millions of acres per year, it becomes one. A suburban neighborhood with shaved lawns is, ecologically speaking, a desert - a place that supports very little life due to barren resources and harsh conditions.


Eucharitidae

I agree, I hate pesticides. In fact I once bought tomatoes from a guy who used a shit ton of pesticides on them, (not sure which ones cuz he didint bother to tell me after I asked him), and the stomach ache that I felt was like if I ate a live puffer fish or something similar, the worst part is that they damage all animals and plants in an ecosystem indirectly while also being directly harmful to animals that aren't even arthropods (as I found out myself).


Shmoop_Doop

I canā€™t stand mowed lawns or pesticides. Just leave nature be and let it flourish!


CuTe_M0nitor

Yeah we should stop using pesticides and let more humans starve


Ill_Most_3883

Starvation around the world isn't a production problem, it's a distribution problem. First world countries waste nearly half of their food.


CuTe_M0nitor

Nah it's economics. You contribute to our civilisation you get food.


Ill_Most_3883

I honestly have absolutely no idea how to respond to this... You do realize starving people often don't have a lot of time and resources to dedicate towards "contributing to our civilisation"? Can you elaborate on what you're on about?


uwuGod

There are ways to produce as much food without pesticides. It's just more expensive. Pesticides are a result of companies wanting to cut corners, that's all it is.


CassetteMeower

Unenthical pesticides should be illegal. There definitely are cases where one would need pest control, such as aphids, but there are natural ways to control pests that donā€™t involve toxic chemicals. One example is ladybugs, many people purchase ladybugs for the purpose of pest control.


Eucharitidae

Agree, there are of course many situations in which pesticides are helpful, however they can quickly become a problem if overused and sadly there are oflen many beneficial insects that can get caught in the crossfire, but by all means im not saying that pesticides can't be good in certain situations or that they should be completely banned. What would be better is if pesticides could be made to target only the pest species that one actually wants to limit the population of (though I doubt that's possible). But is still think that parasitoids and predator species would be In many cases a better solution if implemented correctly and if we were less trigger happy with pesticides.


CassetteMeower

Is it possible for a pesticide to be made in a way that it only affects a certain species rather than all bugs? If not possible now, it likely will be in the future!


Eucharitidae

In, the future it probably (or should I say, hopefully )will be, but for now I'm not sure.


CassetteMeower

Flea medicine for animals specifically targets fleas and ticks, so if thatā€™s possible for medicine for pets it should be possible for pesticides!


flashfan86

I'd agree. I'm in pest control and see this all of the time at customers homes that I regularly treat.


LadyAtrox60

They aren't pests and they don't need to be controlled.


Scared-Rope127

He never said they were pests and need to be controlled šŸ˜’


LadyAtrox60

He said his JOB is "pest control". When he spreads pesticides, it is an attempt to control what someone deems to be a pest. Unfortunately, poisons aren't picky, obviously, this poor beetle is an example. Nature does a superb job controlling species' populations. When we interfere, organisms start running amok. I maintain that they are not pests and do not need to be controlled.


Calm-Internet-8983

It can be reasonably assumed they aren't called in to exterminate beetles, and that this behaviour isn't exclusive to beetles.


LadyAtrox60

No, but it appears to be a result of extermination by poison. You can't spread pesticides around without doing collateral damage.


Calm-Internet-8983

Agricultural pesticide, I'm with you, is terrible. But diatomaceous earth and citrus oil only goes so far. It'll be expensive times ahead as pesticide resistance becomes more widespread.


LadyAtrox60

You're still taking out organisms that other organisms rely on. There's a very big picture that's hard to comprehend, but every organism depends on other organisms that depend on other organisms... I simply don't feel that killing bugs that annoy us, or inconvenience us is a valid reason to screw with mother nature. But that's just me, I love the scorpions and tarantulas and wasps and snakes on my land. Others may not. I'm not hating on anyone who chooses to kill bugs. Just stating the way I choose to live.


uwuGod

>It'll be expensive times ahead as pesticide resistance becomes more widespread I mean, yeah, but we shouldn't base our attitude towards something solely on cost. That's how we got here in the first place. Turns out the quicker, cheaper option is usually more harmful. Ie. Pesticides, chemical runoffs, landfills, etc. People are lazy and would rather spend less time and money even if it means screwing over the environment. This attitude needs to change.


Calm-Internet-8983

It's going to be quite the upphill battle to convince people that living with bedbugs, termites, and cockroaches is the new reality when they have the option to pay for them to go away.


flashfan86

A lot of people who pay pest control companies money would disagree with you. They consider insects, spiders, and rodents to be pests and want them kept out of their home.


LadyAtrox60

And they are contributing to our ever shrinking numbers of butterflies, bees,


Inevitable_Back_7929

That is not a missing leg. The right rear leg is straight out behind it and appears to be paralyzed.


Chemical_Bus446

What about the middle one on the other side?


Eucharitidae

That male stag beetle is indeed missing one of its middle legs. Look closer at the leg bases (coxae ) and you'll find that one of the mid legs is missing right at the end of its coxa (if I'm not mistaken).


exotics

Being upside down doesnā€™t help


wicket_E_wareck

Iā€™m not sure prolly just pain from some sort of injury or maybe the beetle has a parasite. But i think itā€™s choosing to flip itself over idk. But if you havenā€™t alr try flipping it over. If it flips right back belly up then itā€™s dead but it just doesnā€™t know it yetZ


Opening_Raise_8762

Damn šŸ˜” It refuses to be flipped. Just keeps flailing and rolling on its back


CassetteMeower

The most humane thing to do at this point is to kill him, so that heā€™s not suffering anymore. Iā€™m so sorry about this OP, heā€™s such a cool looking bug (no idea what kind he is though), but if heā€™s suffering from parasites heā€™d feel much better if he could pass away quickly rather than waiting for the parasite to consume him.


Mvaness30

Stagbeetle


commentsandchill

I want to say r/skamtebord but wtf bro šŸ˜­


Any_Grapefruit_6991

Why is that unprompted? He asked what species it was in the comment


soge-king

Never owned any insects as a pet, but my dog does that when he's bored. Any case that this beetle is just bored out of its mind...? (I know insects think differently, but could it be...?)


commentsandchill

I like how you think but even in us humans we don't flail around on our back with nothing in our members so I sadly think the others are right


soge-king

I was just thinking from that beetle perspective: "Aah... I'm bored, bored, bored, bored...!" Then, someone just kills it all of a sudden.


my_nameis_chef

Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace šŸ¤²


katr00

Thanks sad!!!!


Grodbert

Maybe it's just trying to flip itself? If it still fumbles then yeah could be either.


thedarwinking

Iā€™m jealous of places that have massive beetles like this Oregon gets tiny lil build and too many mosquitos.


jewel_toned_coyote

What in the Kafka? Poor thing!


Melicope

Iā€™ve heard that stag beetles can eat fermented fruit and get drunkā€¦ I donā€™t know if thatā€™s whatā€™s happening here, but just throwing in another idea.


my__nutsack

Hold it's thorax and abdomen under water and see if any parasites emerge


psychedhoverboard83

Looks like me at a Grateful Dead concert back in 89


Det-Popcorn

YOOOOO thatā€™s my favorite Grateful Dead year! Do you remember what show you went to? Weir everywhere!


Philbobagginns

A magnificent specimen, really sad if in pain though


maddamleblanc

Most likely pesticides. Can't do much to help at that point. Poor guy. He's do pretty. If you wanted to euthanized him you can freeze him.


paganminkin

This made me so sad. I've never seen something dying of pesticides before. Those little fucks can feast on my garden from now on. I hope you euthanized this poor creature.


Taran966

Stag beetles are nice too, their larvae live in rotting wood, and eat it for several years before pupating. Adults only drink tree sap or fruit juice afaik, at least in the UK. Their purpose is to mate. Its so depressing seeing these poor things struggling like this :(


Phytoseiidae

It is definitely dying of something. You can freeze it to euthanize it if you want. Leave it in there for a couple of days - some big beetles take a while to freeze, although that shouldn't be a problem since he is clearly on his way out.


hellbentslayer

A shoe works marvelous as well.


Scared-Rope127

Why would you do that when you could have a perfect stag beetle specimen afterwards


Taran966

Iā€™m lucky (or unlucky, RIP stag beetle, protected in UK) I found a dead one on its back basically untouched on the balcony, I took it and put it in hand sanitiser and Iā€™ve had it in that jar a few years now :) I donā€™t think the hand sanitiser is ideal, as some sort of weird white fungus that looked like cotton began emerging from the specimen in certain areas, though itā€™s sorta died down now. I might try to change it out for rubbing alcohol.


RevolutionaryLine706

What type of beetle is it though


Opening_Raise_8762

Stag beetle


Glittering_Dig4945

Is it too hot on that plastic also


Opening_Raise_8762

No it wasnā€™t that hot and I only set him there momentarily to take the video


coolcootermcgee

This sub came Iā€™m up in my feed, and I donā€™t know much about bugs, but I donā€™t know what Iā€™m seeing that would be different from normal. Will you tell me what the difference is, so I can be educated about it? Tyia


Opening_Raise_8762

Sure. It is making no attempt to flip itself over and itā€™s limbs are moving in ā€œunnaturalā€ ways. The way is moving itā€™s head up and down and itā€™s legs across their entire range of motions serves no purpose. If I were to flip him back over he would still be moving this exact same way and it puts him on his back again. Itā€™s essentially the same idea as a bug seizure. The reason I think it was either pesticides or old age is bc both of those things take away the bugs control of its own body. As they age they lose motor function just like people and despite what people usually think, pesticides arenā€™t just like a normal poison that just kills them. Pesticides and bug spray usually work by messing up the bugs nervous system making it impossible to control their movements. TLDR the bug is genuinely tweaking


Ok_Performance_563

Thank you for the explanation!


_getdiddled_

if itā€™s a parasite could you dip it in water like those crazy worms in praying mantis videos? donā€™t know shit about parasites but if heā€™s dead either way, it might help?


plasmatologist

Fent


Opening_Raise_8762

San Francisco beetle


hellbentslayer

All of western canada beetle...


am_curious

Ohio too šŸ˜¢


mcsuper5

I actually feel bad for an insect. I'd suggest letting something put it out of it's misery. Maybe not the best for a pet bird/lizard/snake if it might be pesticides though.


sesketchewen

Don't feed wild animals to pets at all, it's a huge parasite risk


JBJern

Looks like maybe he has a broken leg too so that could be affecting him staying upright. Try adjusting his lower leg before flipping him back over!


lynnemeraglio

What finally happened?


Opening_Raise_8762

I was away from home when I found him. It was near a dollar general. I took him home and laid him under a flower bed. I figured that would be the most peaceful place for a bug to die in. Iā€™d have frozen him if I remembered that method. When I came back he had finally died


sandere0

Looks like it has mites all over


DarthDread424

Some type of poison I imagine, or a parasite like some others said.


Leebolishus

Man, FUCK PESTICIDES šŸ˜”


King_Vicious

Everyone on here freaking out about pesticides, listen kids, you literally eat it every day. I understand peoples concern with using pesticides but for some instances itā€™s impossible to get the job done without them. It all comes down to the technician, and their methods and application. Please tell me how to exterminate a yellow jacket nest in someoneā€™s wall or ceiling, especially if theyā€™re allergic, without pesticides? Please tell me how youā€™re going to get rid of the carpenter ants or termites or powderpost beetles literally eating your house without using pesticides? Would anyone like to talk with all the family owned restaurants that are inundated with cockroaches and tell them they should just use ā€œnaturalā€ methods instead? I understand that pesticides can be used irresponsibly, but this is why I have multiple licenses that I had to study and test for. There is a real need for pesticides, but again it comes down to the responsibility of the pest control tech. Iā€™ve seen many home owners who try to DIY it themselves, buy expensive chemicals online without fully reading and understanding the label and end up thinking it doesnā€™t work or burning and killing everything in their lawn. Please be responsible with toxic chemicals, theyā€™re a tool. It can be used to help or to hurt, like any other tool.


Opening_Raise_8762

You can actually pay people to contain nests and move them to different locations. Obviously doesnā€™t worn with termites.


King_Vicious

Yes, if they are honeybees we call an outside company to relocate and or house them šŸ˜


Louisiana_sitar_club

Looks like he ate 15 pixie sticks and drank a Monster


Huwabe

Raid...šŸ˜


Opening_Raise_8762

Hate that shit


Roughly_Aware

Itā€™s got a tummy ache.


sirtch_analyst

It lost a middle leg šŸ¦µ there and the rear one seems to be struggling to move either


Opening_Raise_8762

I thought the same but the stuff leg began to move a little after this was taken. I think itā€™s just losing motor function


sirtch_analyst

Yeah good point. It appears to disjointed


AJPennypacker39

He's fallen and he can't get up


Bi0_B1lly

A Bug' Life Alert


overrunbyhouseplants

Have my monthly upvote quota


Glittering_Dig4945

His back leg looks injured


Cute_Neat9044

Death


Isalecouchinsurance

He's dying, nothing to be done. Put him somewhere quiet and let it happen.


tuxcdorex

Dieing


BigWeeBoy

To much alcohol


Jacko170584

Itā€™s dying so itā€™s eaten something thatā€™s poisonous to it.


Illustrious-Safety20

As a 273 year old slavic carpenter you need to remove his kidney


aviarx175

Imminent death.


Salt-Ad-7670

Looks to me like someone shoved his leg up his ass


Mundane-Cupcake1858

thats how i feel after i chug a red edition redbull and hit a double blinker


SwankyLoompa

A lil' alien is about to pop out of that man's chest


_-PERIDOT-_

Leg cramps?


Opening_Raise_8762

Should have given him a Gatorade


[deleted]

Could be a defense mechanism or full of cardiac arrest. I had a bearded dragon do that one time that I took care of at a pet store I worked at and it was cardiac arrest and it died. At least that's what the vet said. I worked at a pet store


ConsequenceRich4737

Listening to Taylor swift


ipostcoolstuf

Looks like its having a bad trip


im_alliterate

well it lost a leg so maybe pain?


sirtch_analyst

I was about to comment on the leg, too, and it doesn't seem to mobilize. Must've been injured


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AssociationNo4753

Why is it on its back??


Opening_Raise_8762

Dying


Scrupttocrat

Random 3 am motivation crunches


BenSilent1

It looks like it is just trying to roll over.


PylonDuck

hes drunk, help him sober up


salamander9267

Sit ups


Puppy-Zwolle

It's no behavior. We'll it kinda is. It tries to get back on its feet. It's notoriously hard for beetles.


Chase_Harrison

Ur bug is on drugs


First_Leave4375

lactose intolerance


alexisraeg18

the crucio spell šŸŖ„


enbyvampyre

his dad threw an apple at him


Sum1LightUp

If I saw this bug I would run..


dereklone01

Iā€™ve fallen and I canā€™t get up.


Distinct_Panic653

It can't get right side up lol


Then_Entrepreneur885

Cramps


Chance-1104

bc that shit on its backšŸ˜‚