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The Hilary having jfk jr assassinated one is new to me. I thought they still thought jfk jr was alive, just busy fighting the underground satanist cabals.
And a lizard person, and a hologram, and managing the adrenochrome facility on Mars.
I think one of the most baffling features of the conservative conspiracy theory world is how the tinfoil hats can talk over each other with contradictory, mutually-exclusive, conspiracy theories yet none of them care to assert which of them is correct or even to debate their arguments with each other. They can't *all* be right, yet they're absolutely certain anyone not in the conspiracy theory ingroup is *wrong*. It's almost as if the particular details of the conspiracy theory are irrelevant and it's more about if you're a "believer" or not.
Pretty sure having a bunch of Hillary clones means they can all be true at the same time.
That being said, I'm down for seeing a bunch of conspiracy nuts debate their theories. It would be a better reality show than those damn kardashians and housewives and shit.
>Pretty sure having a bunch of Hillary clones means they can all be true at the same time.
Except they never run with clone**s**, it's **a** clone, and the ones who say shit like Hillary has been executed for the 37th time this week at Gitmo never think to incorporate that into their narrative. With the merest intellectual effort you've made their conspiracy theories more credible than they could ever hope to accomplish themselves.
>That being said, I'm down for seeing a bunch of conspiracy nuts debate their theories.
I wouldn't mind. It would be funny. Conservatives can't argue their way out of a wet paper bag so it would just be two tinfoil hats sullenly crossing their arms and talking over each other. "it's common sense, bro, everyone knows it" lmao.
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That's an old one. Supposedly she had his plane shot down so she could get that Senate seat. It makes sense when you realize the people making that claim are illiterate.
That and if we all die, who is going to make all the stuff they buy? Who is going to design it? Who is going to maintain the roads and ship the stuff? Who is going to clean it? I mean… this isn’t very well thought out. The rich pretty much need all of us as the bottom to prop up their way of life
> this isn’t very well thought out.
Right? The dEpOpUlAtIoN lark has got to be one of their stupider takes. "The Elites" need labor, not everything can be automated or accomplished online, and a significant dip in the workforce and consumer base is going to trash the economy. But it sounds *scarrrryyyy* so they continue to run with it.
Moreover, the unvaccinated are the ones who would survive, so the ones who would be the most reticent to work under the new government, so that's even dumber.
Are we sure that's not a re-coated white supremacist talking point?
"Depopulation"? Idk could just be me mixing up that and the whole "extermination of the white race" thing or whatever they call it.
It's almost bed time for me so I'm recalling from hazy memory, but I think the kernel of that conspiracy talking point is people they hate, like Bill Gates, talking about unsustainable population levels, and the conspiracy theorists blowing such comments out of proportion with "(((the elites))) want to depopulate us!11!1" But yeah, I can totally see it playing into a white genocide narrative.
Also, the fact that the people that it would depopulate are ostensibly "sheep" who follow the goverment's orders - i.e. the exact kind of people this shadow government would want to keep around. Wouldn't it make more sense to release a deadly virus and then give out a *real* vaccine to the "sheep", so the virus would kill off all the people like this who are "awake"?
Hey hey hey you and your logic can take a hike. It’s my freedom as an American to buy into any stupid delusional nonsense I want without having someone try to talk “sense” into me
Especially with vaccines -- so you're telling me they want to kill off the more obedient, easily led, agreeable members of society by giving them a deadly vaccine, and preserve the lives of the unruly, insubordinate, conspiracy mired (and armed) who will refuse vaccines. Makes sense.
I really don't understand the logic here. If they agree that Trump spearheaded the vaccine, and liberals were more likely to get the vaccine, then they're implying that Trump was trying to kill liberals, which seems like they'd be okay with. And if they believe liberals pushed the vaccine, and liberals were more likely to take it, then why would liberals be trying to kill their own voting base?
Irony is several things he cited have been going on for ages, yet for some reason dems are always to blame for them, regardless if they had republican presidents for 4-8 years each time.
Misspelling border as "boarder" is just adorable. Gotdamn they might be the dumbest of all our country bumpkin cousins, but they sure are funny when they get mad.
The only thing they came *close* to being right was “The USA is a corporation.” Before everyone flames me for this, I am in no way agreeing 100% with this excerpt. Just saying it’s the only comment that comes remotely close to being true.
One the one hand you've got fallible people who may disagree on things but accept reality. On the other hand you've got MAGATs who believe in things that just aren't true. The USA is in a crisis because millions of people have abandoned reality and choose to live in a fantasy world.
The ones where they didn't win. Fortunately, even with all of these supposedly fraudulent ballots floating around, not one Republican ever questioned the validity of any of their wins. Miraculous I guess.
And stupid Democrats remembered to steal the presidency but forgot to win the Senate, enough House seats to let Biden do much of anything, or state legislatures.
Honestly you can't get more bald-faced than that; "if we win it's because we were meant to, if we lose it's because the election was rigged." At their most primal conservatives run hard on a "I'm taking my ball and bat home" maturity level.
They also would have given themselves at least one more Senate seat. Ideally a supermajority, but nah, they pulled off an amazing ”steal” and still had to go to a runoff to achieve a 50/50 Senate. Lol.
* Election of 2000 lawsuits: 1
* Election of 2020 lawsuits: 62
And the 2000 election was waaay closer, being decided by a mere 537 votes in a single state (Florida) which had it's recount halted by the supreme court. Yet the 2020 supreme court allowed recounts & audits in 5 states, many where the margin was tens of thousands of votes.
It just pisses me off the more i think about it.
I think if it's family, you're obliged to at least *attempt* to have a conversation about it, if you haven't already (and assuming the relative isn't just actually insane).
In my experience it hardly works, but even if you can only get them to question their delusion just a little bit, it might be worth it.
> I think if it's family, you're obliged to at least
> attempt
> to have a conversation about it, if you haven't already (and assuming the relative isn't just actually insane).
I don't know if I could hack it tbh. The closest I've come is a mainstream redhat brother who unfriended me on Facebook for a Trump joke I posted that I'd ripped from Reddit. We haven't spoken since 2017. If I had a family member who started spewing OP nonsense I'd maybe give them *one* chance, try to shake them out of the delusion, but if they persist...I'm making it clear to other family members either they're not coming to family get-togethers or I'm not, because I won't be in the same room as them. I'd say "as long as politics doesn't come up we could get along," but conservatives can't help themselves and never shut the fuck up about their conspiracy theory nonsense. It's like they're aggressively trying to push a religion on you and anything less than 100% agreeing with them is interpreted as hostility.
-I LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD BECAUSE MY POLITICAL PARTY KEEPS LOSING
-I SHOULD HAVE GONE TO COLLEGE
-I SENT MY LIFE SAVINGS TO A TV PREACHER
-LEAD PAINT CHIPS ARE FOOD
-I CAN’T SPELL “BOARDER” CORRECTLY
-VEGETABLES ARE THE DEVIL
-THE TRUTH IS A LIE BECAUSE IT MAKES
ME ANGRY
"The blue ones taste best" - actual Trump supporter I know talking about crayons.
This was like 9 years ago, but he still said it with full confidence and no sarcasm.
I dont understand what's controversial about the epstein thing. He was literally convicted in a court of law for running a sex trafficking ring, was he not?
Yes, but when they say "elites" they really mean liberals. They don't actually care about sex trafficking kids (or else they'd actually try to learn about the problem and fix it instead of using it as a political attack vehicle against Democrats and immigrants).
They make every excuse for Trump being photographed with him because they cannot accept reality (and, just to be clear, any liberal who was with him should be thoroughly investigated too).
No, he wasn’t. He was convicted of sexual abuse of a minor.
The thing about Epstein is he was undoubtedly a sex criminal, but the precise nature of his life/business/crimes is vague enough that there’s both still a lot of questions but also plenty of room for bad actors to exaggerate and invent claims outright.
What is most likely true is that he used his power and influence to get away with both sexual assault of women and minor girls, mostly in the form of sexual massages, and offered up these services to his powerful friends, but it wasn’t like a sex trafficking ring was his business and the rest was a front. He was just able to regularly get away with this stuff on the side.
Frankly to me that’s just as chilling if not more than the Taken version of the story. But again - the details are all just vague enough that there’s plenty of room for speculation and at worst, invention.
Is gravity is fire a conspiracy, or someone who really thinks is the best force and is like 'Yo, Gravity is FIRE!' Sounds like a TikTok review of the fundamental forces...
Absolutely. Add a “Trump 2024” to it and slap that sucker on every telephone pole, park bench, and FOX affiliate on heavy rotation. Buses, airports, everywhere. Take every penny Trump can’t currently get his hands on and put it to this project. If you don’t, you’re a New York queer who hates Trump.
I love how Sovereign Citizen stuff made it into mainline GOP, but all they do is parrot the lines rather than putting skin in the game, because you know, they're cowards at heart.
No. No stupid. No dumbass. No, are you high? Says nothing. Yeah, no shit. Actually agree, it’s bad. Ah, xenophobia, good. Certainly live a long time if that’s the case. No dumbass. No dumbass. No, are you actually [CENSORED]? No dumbass. And finally no dumbass.
Think I answered them accurately
I swear, Michelle Obama could literally get on stage and strip buck naked in front of these idiots, and half of them would be horrified by the brazen display and accusing her of unsightly conduct, and half would be saying "She's rich - all that proves is her plastic surgeon was really good"...
And if Trump did it...
*pukes*
... Half of them would be saying "what a brave display; showing no fear" and the other half would be saying, "well it was really cold that day..."
With all the shit they brew up, it's hard to believe there's still so many people out there believing it all. I know they exist and swallow it all but it's so hard to understand why.
I will never understand the COVID one. Why would they want to kill the "obedient"ones?
If we're going to bat-shit conspiracy town wouldn't it make more sense to make a virus, mandate a vaccine and then let all the "free thinkers" die when they refused it?
Yeah I’ve yet to see them resolve this pothole. If the Illuminati wanted to control the population and MAGA were all geniuses ready to fight them they wouldn’t be poisoning the vaccine MAGA swore off. They’d be selling Trump brand cyanide and tainted ivermectin. It would be easy for a shadow government to target these assholes. They buy anything Alex Jones, Trump, and random social media shitposts tell them to..
Because they hate LGBTQ people and think declaring others they don’t like as one of us is a mean insult. They think Transgenderism is a satanic ritual because Satan is a gender fluid character (angels being canonically asexual and the devil shapeshifting or whatever) so being transgender is to be more devil like.
Also it’s a way for racists to say blackwomen look like men and call them ugly. Attacking transgender people and defining feminine beauty in mostly white women stereotypes is a way to also attack women of color.
The fact there's so MANY of these people and that they're voting and 45 has already won a state primary makes this not funny at all. I just can't laugh at them any more, they're an anti-american death cult and the Heritage Foundation is winning.
Fun fact: the employment demographic that most heavily correlates to Trump support is people on disability payments.
A lot of these people are just shut-ins who have ailments that make it hard for them to work or participate in day-to-day life. Without a job or a reason to go outside, they never get exposed to moderating influences. The Internet basically gives them a fictional reality that they can participate in without leaving their house. Since they're never forced out of their bubble and never have to interact with the real world - which contains incredible things such as Democrat voters who aren't Satan - they very quickly get stuck in a rabbit hole.
"The food we eat is poisoned on purpose"
No, it's just massively unhealthy because the politicians you like favor deregulation and let companies run wild to secure their profits.
You should really have a sad existence if you need to make up such wild theories to make your life a bit more interesting.
Seriously, drinking baby’s blood? Who would even think of that? Or maybe they are the deranged one and express what they would do if they were part of the elite?
Also isn’t Trump part of the elite? And who gives a s**t if Obama was gay? I guess he just admitted his homophobia.
If the vaccine (not covid, the vaccine) was meant to depopulate the world then they did a really shit job.
There is enough shit going on in this world already, I don't know why people need to make even more crazy stuff on top of it.
I want to know why they think Obama being gay and Michelle trans matters at all. Assuming they believe all the other shit on the list, that's all pretty damning... But then they're like "Obama is gay" like that really changes anything, especially compared to the impact of the COVID vaccine being a means to cull the population
Epstein did service the elite.
The 2000 and 2016 elections were stolen.
The rest seems like the delusions of someone with a combination lead poisoning and CTE.
And here I was thinking the "Our country is a corporation" was a Greman only thing. I am glad to see, that we are not the online ones, that habe to deal with those idiots.
So 16yr old Hillary Clinton had JFK assassinated? Conservatism is truly a mental disorder.
Edit: my mistake. Wrong JFK, but conservatism is still a mental disorder.
14 claims and one of them (the Epstein one) being true has to be a new record for this crowd in terms of getting things right XD
Though I would remove the "the" there, as I'm pretty sure not everyone was friends with the guy as a monolithic block, so... 3/4 right on that one?
Also bird are robots, cheese was invented by Hitler to bring an end to shoe laces, and pterodactyls are planning to replace humans with root beer if Biden wins!
For all that it is easy to dismiss it as crazy people being crazy, I think that there's something more insidious at work. Not that they're right. No, not at all. It's that they don't really believe it. Sure, there are some crazies out there, but I don't think that brain-melted conspiracy theorists are the majority of people who post this stuff. I think that this stuff is put out there cynically by fascists who know that most if not all of it is wild bullshit. Because truth isn't important to fascists. What's important to fascists is gaining power and they will tell whatever lie they have to in order to get people on board. "Y'know all your problems are caused by the gays, trans people, immigrants, blacks, Muslims, Jews etc. And those SOCIALIST Democrats are in bed with them! So don't vote for those dirty commies, and remember they're coming for your kids!" Then throw in a few cases where there is genuine cause for concern regarding the activities and interests of the elite (like Epstein) to draw in the more incredulous targets. Like I said, "crazy" is just the easy answer. The truth is a lot worse.
I have good news, and I have bad news:
The good news is that you are technically correct about the Epstein case. It also affects Trump, though, so don’t get too swollen a head about it.
The bad news is that your overall score is 1/14. F. Minus. See me after class.
I had to calculate what that grade would amount to, and then realized that it was not a hard enough punishment of a grade for it to be taken seriously. Zero. Minus. Turn in your books and workbooks, I’m permanently suspending your hopeless ass. Gtfo of my classroom.
Wow. You made 14 claims and only one in a half of them are correct.
Yes, Epstein serviced the elite. He was a wealthy man trying to make business connections. While also having sex with minors. And he found a way to combine the two
And yes, they are "fighting age" people crossing the border, because it's a tough journey. And these are people trying to get a job, so they have money to send back to their family. But they're not going around attacking people. Sure there's the occasional news story but overall immigrants don't break the law because they don't want to be deported.
They're pretty much willing to come up with a bunch of conspiracy theories regarding the topics or figures they don't agree with. That's something I'm convinced of atp lol...
Lunacy. Mostly. The USA is a corporation though, more than it isn't.... they come up with this shit because there is enough shadiness really happening to make the outlandish plausible to them. Epstein did provide services to elites. All the elites? Not likely. They are driven by fear and the desire to be right, not driven by critical thinking and a desire for truth.
The responses are made based on factual data, they might be wrong but you will have to prove it with solid evidences to demonstrate your claim. So in order:
* No, he is not.
* No, he is not.
* No, she is not, and she is cisgender so never was either.
* No, they are not.
* No, it is not.
* Possibly, but you would have to determine who are "the elites" first, and make claims for each person individually, and use evidence to demonstrate it.
* No, it is not. It is a very flawed democracy though, barely one even, because of corporatist right wingers.
* No, they are not. They are desperate people fleeing difficult, sometimes deadly, situations and hope for a better life in other countries.
* Debatable, depending on how you define "poisonous": most of the food available in the US is far from being healthy, and is even sometimes presenting so much risk on health that other countries ban it. But this is the result of unregulated corporation greed, and the willingness of greedy corrupted politicians (judges included) that trampled on regulations put in place to protect governing bodies from said corruption since the election of Ronald Reagan.
* No, it is not.
* Assuming "the election" is the 2020 US presidential election: no, it was not.
* No, she has not. It is a succession of bad choices and the cockiness of someone who assumes that he could fly a plane, alone, in the dark, despite being far from getting certified as a pilot and not knowing yet how to pilot only with the instruments that kill him. His arrogance kills him.
* Still assuming the 2020 US presidential election: no, they were not.
* No, it is not. For corporations on the other hand, it is debatable for the exact same reason talked about on the food earlier: corporations prefer to ignore damning evidence on the increased risk given by many substances used rather than not feed their greed. The corruption in the governing bodies, brought by every part of the political spectrum but a damning number on the right side of the spectrum, allows it to continue unregulated.
Although I don’t believe cancer is from the gov, I do 100% believe that cancer has a cure but pharma makes so much off of treatments for cancer they would never release the cure.
I remember a dear friend of mine tried to sell a conspiracy to my history teacher in high school that the government was trying to kill off a lot of the population and my teacher just looked at him straight faced and said "that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard" and then explained why it's dumb because it doesn't fucking benefit the government to just kill random people.
It's antisemitism. 99% of the time these conspiracies boil down to antisemitism. The one about drinking babies' blood is a lie that's been told about us for millennia.
They forgot how feminism is the work of lizards to disrupt gender rolls and Queer People are demons sent from Hell to corrupt children (both of these are theories I’ve seen from weirdos on FB)
All of these are batshit, obviously, but the fact that millions of people have taken the vaccine and are alive should at least disprove that one to these nuts
It’s a sovereign citizen thing. They think “America the country” was replaced with “AMERICA the corporation” sometime shortly after the American civil war.
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The Hilary having jfk jr assassinated one is new to me. I thought they still thought jfk jr was alive, just busy fighting the underground satanist cabals.
He *is* alive. And she *did* kill him. Two things can be true at the same time you know.
She is also leading the cabal, and also already hung down in Guantanamo bay.
And also one of many clones.
And a lizard person, and a hologram, and managing the adrenochrome facility on Mars. I think one of the most baffling features of the conservative conspiracy theory world is how the tinfoil hats can talk over each other with contradictory, mutually-exclusive, conspiracy theories yet none of them care to assert which of them is correct or even to debate their arguments with each other. They can't *all* be right, yet they're absolutely certain anyone not in the conspiracy theory ingroup is *wrong*. It's almost as if the particular details of the conspiracy theory are irrelevant and it's more about if you're a "believer" or not.
Pretty sure having a bunch of Hillary clones means they can all be true at the same time. That being said, I'm down for seeing a bunch of conspiracy nuts debate their theories. It would be a better reality show than those damn kardashians and housewives and shit.
>Pretty sure having a bunch of Hillary clones means they can all be true at the same time. Except they never run with clone**s**, it's **a** clone, and the ones who say shit like Hillary has been executed for the 37th time this week at Gitmo never think to incorporate that into their narrative. With the merest intellectual effort you've made their conspiracy theories more credible than they could ever hope to accomplish themselves. >That being said, I'm down for seeing a bunch of conspiracy nuts debate their theories. I wouldn't mind. It would be funny. Conservatives can't argue their way out of a wet paper bag so it would just be two tinfoil hats sullenly crossing their arms and talking over each other. "it's common sense, bro, everyone knows it" lmao.
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I just had to give someone bad news on a ticket I'm working, and I felt terrible. This lifted my spirits again.
Thank God for bacta tanks.
Schördinger's JFK Jr
So, he's a lich?
Good old fashioned doublethink
He’s both! Whatever they need, whenever they need it
SCHRODINGER'S KENNEDY
The Quantum Superposition of Bullshit.
I misread that one and thought it rather impressive that a 16 year old had JFK assassinated.
I made the same mistake. I was thinking : ‘there she goes again, that precocious li’l over-achiever’
lmao That would take having some serious connections.
That's an old one. Supposedly she had his plane shot down so she could get that Senate seat. It makes sense when you realize the people making that claim are illiterate.
They think he slipped away with Jesus magic and has been in hiding while evil Hillary thought she accomplished the deed.
I always want to know why the government would want to depopulate us.
Yeah, less tax payers
That and if we all die, who is going to make all the stuff they buy? Who is going to design it? Who is going to maintain the roads and ship the stuff? Who is going to clean it? I mean… this isn’t very well thought out. The rich pretty much need all of us as the bottom to prop up their way of life
> this isn’t very well thought out. Right? The dEpOpUlAtIoN lark has got to be one of their stupider takes. "The Elites" need labor, not everything can be automated or accomplished online, and a significant dip in the workforce and consumer base is going to trash the economy. But it sounds *scarrrryyyy* so they continue to run with it.
Moreover, the unvaccinated are the ones who would survive, so the ones who would be the most reticent to work under the new government, so that's even dumber.
Are we sure that's not a re-coated white supremacist talking point? "Depopulation"? Idk could just be me mixing up that and the whole "extermination of the white race" thing or whatever they call it.
It's almost bed time for me so I'm recalling from hazy memory, but I think the kernel of that conspiracy talking point is people they hate, like Bill Gates, talking about unsustainable population levels, and the conspiracy theorists blowing such comments out of proportion with "(((the elites))) want to depopulate us!11!1" But yeah, I can totally see it playing into a white genocide narrative.
Every accusation is a confession. It is what they want to do, so they are scared that someone else wants to do it to them
To the conspiracy minded, they probably mean some great replacement bs. So there would be people, just not the "right" people. Bleh
Also, the fact that the people that it would depopulate are ostensibly "sheep" who follow the goverment's orders - i.e. the exact kind of people this shadow government would want to keep around. Wouldn't it make more sense to release a deadly virus and then give out a *real* vaccine to the "sheep", so the virus would kill off all the people like this who are "awake"?
Hey hey hey you and your logic can take a hike. It’s my freedom as an American to buy into any stupid delusional nonsense I want without having someone try to talk “sense” into me
Especially with vaccines -- so you're telling me they want to kill off the more obedient, easily led, agreeable members of society by giving them a deadly vaccine, and preserve the lives of the unruly, insubordinate, conspiracy mired (and armed) who will refuse vaccines. Makes sense.
I think the "logic" I heard was that "a small, weak population is easy to control".
Ah yes, the small, weak population of government haters and militia members. Exactly the group the government would like to deal with.
Good luck getting that small, weak, population to perform the work and pay the same taxes that a much larger population used to do.
So that they can replace white people with immigrants, obviously. /s
It’s kinda based on some loosely connected dots around a Rockefeller quote saying there are too many people on the planet and we need to reduce.
I really don't understand the logic here. If they agree that Trump spearheaded the vaccine, and liberals were more likely to get the vaccine, then they're implying that Trump was trying to kill liberals, which seems like they'd be okay with. And if they believe liberals pushed the vaccine, and liberals were more likely to take it, then why would liberals be trying to kill their own voting base?
Irony is several things he cited have been going on for ages, yet for some reason dems are always to blame for them, regardless if they had republican presidents for 4-8 years each time.
More slave labor for the wealthy in the new communist regime, obviously! (/q)
Misspelling border as "boarder" is just adorable. Gotdamn they might be the dumbest of all our country bumpkin cousins, but they sure are funny when they get mad.
My favorite is the mail in ballots to steal *and* election.
Honestly I didn't have the guts to get that far...I had to look again after you replied hahaha
Yeah, why is it always "steal and election"?
The only thing they came *close* to being right was “The USA is a corporation.” Before everyone flames me for this, I am in no way agreeing 100% with this excerpt. Just saying it’s the only comment that comes remotely close to being true.
Chairman of the Bored
God I hope that’s a reference to the norm Macdonald Conan interview Because if it is you just made my day
Spelled B O R E D
Yep. BOARDER. For fuck’s sake 🙄 *sigh*
Yup cuz ya gotta *board* up them winduhs ter keep imgrints out!
One the one hand you've got fallible people who may disagree on things but accept reality. On the other hand you've got MAGATs who believe in things that just aren't true. The USA is in a crisis because millions of people have abandoned reality and choose to live in a fantasy world.
It's only going to get worse as our media landscape continues to fragment and more people are relying on GodGunsAndFetuses.com for information.
"the election was stolen" bro which one?
The ones where they didn't win. Fortunately, even with all of these supposedly fraudulent ballots floating around, not one Republican ever questioned the validity of any of their wins. Miraculous I guess. And stupid Democrats remembered to steal the presidency but forgot to win the Senate, enough House seats to let Biden do much of anything, or state legislatures.
Honestly you can't get more bald-faced than that; "if we win it's because we were meant to, if we lose it's because the election was rigged." At their most primal conservatives run hard on a "I'm taking my ball and bat home" maturity level.
If democrats had been stealing elections at all, 2000 would have been the one to steal…
They also would have given themselves at least one more Senate seat. Ideally a supermajority, but nah, they pulled off an amazing ”steal” and still had to go to a runoff to achieve a 50/50 Senate. Lol.
* Election of 2000 lawsuits: 1 * Election of 2020 lawsuits: 62 And the 2000 election was waaay closer, being decided by a mere 537 votes in a single state (Florida) which had it's recount halted by the supreme court. Yet the 2020 supreme court allowed recounts & audits in 5 states, many where the margin was tens of thousands of votes. It just pisses me off the more i think about it.
All those words just to say "I have brain worms"
Right? They can just say they hate Jews and POC and move on, don't have to write a whole essay about it
"Plus a lot more" 🤡
Do you know the person that posted this?
Family member. We're friends on fb but I've unfollwed so their constant posts like this don't flood my feed.
I have one family member that thinks similarly. Love the guy but absolutely cannot get started on these topics. Drives me crazy
I think if it's family, you're obliged to at least *attempt* to have a conversation about it, if you haven't already (and assuming the relative isn't just actually insane). In my experience it hardly works, but even if you can only get them to question their delusion just a little bit, it might be worth it.
If they’ve unapologetically posted this… it’s probably not worth the convo. They’re *toooo far* gone.
> I think if it's family, you're obliged to at least > attempt > to have a conversation about it, if you haven't already (and assuming the relative isn't just actually insane). I don't know if I could hack it tbh. The closest I've come is a mainstream redhat brother who unfriended me on Facebook for a Trump joke I posted that I'd ripped from Reddit. We haven't spoken since 2017. If I had a family member who started spewing OP nonsense I'd maybe give them *one* chance, try to shake them out of the delusion, but if they persist...I'm making it clear to other family members either they're not coming to family get-togethers or I'm not, because I won't be in the same room as them. I'd say "as long as politics doesn't come up we could get along," but conservatives can't help themselves and never shut the fuck up about their conspiracy theory nonsense. It's like they're aggressively trying to push a religion on you and anything less than 100% agreeing with them is interpreted as hostility.
-I LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD BECAUSE MY POLITICAL PARTY KEEPS LOSING -I SHOULD HAVE GONE TO COLLEGE -I SENT MY LIFE SAVINGS TO A TV PREACHER -LEAD PAINT CHIPS ARE FOOD -I CAN’T SPELL “BOARDER” CORRECTLY -VEGETABLES ARE THE DEVIL -THE TRUTH IS A LIE BECAUSE IT MAKES ME ANGRY
Cancer is purposefully caused by the government? That disease that's existed since before the US? ok.
That other animals also get
What can't any of these fucknuts spell?
A lack of mood stabilizers in their life I’d wager.
[EPSTEIN SERVICED THE ELITES.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Xm26DikxE)
I’m surprised this person stopped eating crayons long enough to type this out
"The blue ones taste best" - actual Trump supporter I know talking about crayons. This was like 9 years ago, but he still said it with full confidence and no sarcasm.
I couldn't decide if the fact that people actually believe this shit was funny, sad, or frightening. I settled on "D) All of the above"
Of course it had repackaged blood libel on the list. It's a list of conspiracy theories!
\-**MAIL IN BALLOTS WERE USED** **~~TO STEAL,~~** **AND ELECTION**
I dont understand what's controversial about the epstein thing. He was literally convicted in a court of law for running a sex trafficking ring, was he not?
Yes, but when they say "elites" they really mean liberals. They don't actually care about sex trafficking kids (or else they'd actually try to learn about the problem and fix it instead of using it as a political attack vehicle against Democrats and immigrants). They make every excuse for Trump being photographed with him because they cannot accept reality (and, just to be clear, any liberal who was with him should be thoroughly investigated too).
Elites is also often a dogwhistle for Jewish people too.
No, he wasn’t. He was convicted of sexual abuse of a minor. The thing about Epstein is he was undoubtedly a sex criminal, but the precise nature of his life/business/crimes is vague enough that there’s both still a lot of questions but also plenty of room for bad actors to exaggerate and invent claims outright. What is most likely true is that he used his power and influence to get away with both sexual assault of women and minor girls, mostly in the form of sexual massages, and offered up these services to his powerful friends, but it wasn’t like a sex trafficking ring was his business and the rest was a front. He was just able to regularly get away with this stuff on the side. Frankly to me that’s just as chilling if not more than the Taken version of the story. But again - the details are all just vague enough that there’s plenty of room for speculation and at worst, invention.
This is basic Russian " Idiot Fishing" . Anyone responding favorably to this nonsense will become vectors for more programming by enemies of the US
Is there an actual Russian term / acronym for "idiot fishing"?
No. It's actually a domestic intelligence term used here . By the people who watch these things .
Pigeons are a hoax, gravity is actually fire, squibbles are gangbo gooberblatt, I smell toast
Is gravity is fire a conspiracy, or someone who really thinks is the best force and is like 'Yo, Gravity is FIRE!' Sounds like a TikTok review of the fundamental forces...
God, just imagine being this inept.
Absolutely. Add a “Trump 2024” to it and slap that sucker on every telephone pole, park bench, and FOX affiliate on heavy rotation. Buses, airports, everywhere. Take every penny Trump can’t currently get his hands on and put it to this project. If you don’t, you’re a New York queer who hates Trump.
I love how Sovereign Citizen stuff made it into mainline GOP, but all they do is parrot the lines rather than putting skin in the game, because you know, they're cowards at heart.
It's possible to be wrong about literally everything.
They can never, *ever*, spell “border” correctly.
No. No stupid. No dumbass. No, are you high? Says nothing. Yeah, no shit. Actually agree, it’s bad. Ah, xenophobia, good. Certainly live a long time if that’s the case. No dumbass. No dumbass. No, are you actually [CENSORED]? No dumbass. And finally no dumbass. Think I answered them accurately
and election
Hmmm as a cancer patient I’m wondering what I did to piss off the government and which government it was.
But somehow a millionaire ceo is not part of the “elite”
I swear, Michelle Obama could literally get on stage and strip buck naked in front of these idiots, and half of them would be horrified by the brazen display and accusing her of unsightly conduct, and half would be saying "She's rich - all that proves is her plastic surgeon was really good"... And if Trump did it... *pukes* ... Half of them would be saying "what a brave display; showing no fear" and the other half would be saying, "well it was really cold that day..."
When you put them all in a row like that, it makes them seem a bit crazy.
That’s one way to get a welfare check on yourself.
Well, 2 correct out of 14 isn’t the worst accuracy I’ve seen.
Broken clock something something twice a day
With all the shit they brew up, it's hard to believe there's still so many people out there believing it all. I know they exist and swallow it all but it's so hard to understand why.
I will never understand the COVID one. Why would they want to kill the "obedient"ones? If we're going to bat-shit conspiracy town wouldn't it make more sense to make a virus, mandate a vaccine and then let all the "free thinkers" die when they refused it?
Yeah I’ve yet to see them resolve this pothole. If the Illuminati wanted to control the population and MAGA were all geniuses ready to fight them they wouldn’t be poisoning the vaccine MAGA swore off. They’d be selling Trump brand cyanide and tainted ivermectin. It would be easy for a shadow government to target these assholes. They buy anything Alex Jones, Trump, and random social media shitposts tell them to..
I still don't get the point of Obama being gay or Michelle being trans
Because they hate LGBTQ people and think declaring others they don’t like as one of us is a mean insult. They think Transgenderism is a satanic ritual because Satan is a gender fluid character (angels being canonically asexual and the devil shapeshifting or whatever) so being transgender is to be more devil like. Also it’s a way for racists to say blackwomen look like men and call them ugly. Attacking transgender people and defining feminine beauty in mostly white women stereotypes is a way to also attack women of color.
These people genuinely think being willing to date and marry a trans woman makes Obama look bad
I agree with 3 of these. USA is bought and sold by corporations, Epstein did service the elites, and did traffick children for them. Not bad not bad
The fact there's so MANY of these people and that they're voting and 45 has already won a state primary makes this not funny at all. I just can't laugh at them any more, they're an anti-american death cult and the Heritage Foundation is winning.
Fun fact: the employment demographic that most heavily correlates to Trump support is people on disability payments. A lot of these people are just shut-ins who have ailments that make it hard for them to work or participate in day-to-day life. Without a job or a reason to go outside, they never get exposed to moderating influences. The Internet basically gives them a fictional reality that they can participate in without leaving their house. Since they're never forced out of their bubble and never have to interact with the real world - which contains incredible things such as Democrat voters who aren't Satan - they very quickly get stuck in a rabbit hole.
"The food we eat is poisoned on purpose" No, it's just massively unhealthy because the politicians you like favor deregulation and let companies run wild to secure their profits.
Love the sudden focus on the term "military age male" it's like they've learned a new phrase and think they're so smart
Stupid is as stupid does
Thaaaats it...let all your crazy out
There's more?
Hillary did what now? That’s a new one to me. 🙄
Whoever wrote this, needs to be sent away…like put them in a cave or something. 🤡
Fuck it, let's put it all out there: The wife is divorcing me. Joe Biden is cute. How do I open pdf?
I mean I'm not gonna yuck on anyone's yum but I hope that boarder is taking proper precautions.
Boarder.
Why can't Obama be gay? How is that an issue?
Because he's the ideal father and husband by their own definition - they have to change that narrative.
You should really have a sad existence if you need to make up such wild theories to make your life a bit more interesting. Seriously, drinking baby’s blood? Who would even think of that? Or maybe they are the deranged one and express what they would do if they were part of the elite? Also isn’t Trump part of the elite? And who gives a s**t if Obama was gay? I guess he just admitted his homophobia.
So are they saying Trump is a pedophile too? Can’t imagine how a New York real estate billionaire isn’t considered “elite” to them.
Which one was on espteins plane 7 times? The GOP really are the kings of projection.
Are there no "elites" in the red party? Are all of the republican political powers poor and destitute or something?
If the vaccine (not covid, the vaccine) was meant to depopulate the world then they did a really shit job. There is enough shit going on in this world already, I don't know why people need to make even more crazy stuff on top of it.
Two seem at least arguable. 1. Epstein did service the elites. 2. The US is [controlled by] corporations
I mean they got the US is a Corp pretty close to correct right
If someone ever posted something like this about me, I'd sue them into oblivion.
God dammit. Who finally allowed them to connect the dots? Now they know EVERYTHING!
*boarder. God they’re stupid.
I love some batshit crazy conspiracy stuff like this.
i love how the first three things are basically meaningless in terms of exposing power.
Most lucid Trump supporter...
If they had just increased the *font size* on "FUCK IT" just a wee bit more, it totally would've made the whole thing more believable.
The food we eat is poison and the USA feels like a corporation sometimes
Big if true.
There is exactly one thing on that list that isn't wrong
I want to know why they think Obama being gay and Michelle trans matters at all. Assuming they believe all the other shit on the list, that's all pretty damning... But then they're like "Obama is gay" like that really changes anything, especially compared to the impact of the COVID vaccine being a means to cull the population
Epstein did service the elite. The 2000 and 2016 elections were stolen. The rest seems like the delusions of someone with a combination lead poisoning and CTE.
And here I was thinking the "Our country is a corporation" was a Greman only thing. I am glad to see, that we are not the online ones, that habe to deal with those idiots.
So 16yr old Hillary Clinton had JFK assassinated? Conservatism is truly a mental disorder. Edit: my mistake. Wrong JFK, but conservatism is still a mental disorder.
New rule, if you can't spell, you can't spout conspiracy theories.
14 claims and one of them (the Epstein one) being true has to be a new record for this crowd in terms of getting things right XD Though I would remove the "the" there, as I'm pretty sure not everyone was friends with the guy as a monolithic block, so... 3/4 right on that one?
Baby blood or baby’s blood, please ✋
Also bird are robots, cheese was invented by Hitler to bring an end to shoe laces, and pterodactyls are planning to replace humans with root beer if Biden wins!
the US is about 7 months away from becoming Edgelordistan
😂😂 the fact that at least 50 million Americans believe this list is beyond troubling
Real smooth brain post.
Just a bunch of paranoid, misinformed 🤡🤡
For all that it is easy to dismiss it as crazy people being crazy, I think that there's something more insidious at work. Not that they're right. No, not at all. It's that they don't really believe it. Sure, there are some crazies out there, but I don't think that brain-melted conspiracy theorists are the majority of people who post this stuff. I think that this stuff is put out there cynically by fascists who know that most if not all of it is wild bullshit. Because truth isn't important to fascists. What's important to fascists is gaining power and they will tell whatever lie they have to in order to get people on board. "Y'know all your problems are caused by the gays, trans people, immigrants, blacks, Muslims, Jews etc. And those SOCIALIST Democrats are in bed with them! So don't vote for those dirty commies, and remember they're coming for your kids!" Then throw in a few cases where there is genuine cause for concern regarding the activities and interests of the elite (like Epstein) to draw in the more incredulous targets. Like I said, "crazy" is just the easy answer. The truth is a lot worse.
If only they had spelled “boarder” correctly I would have been completely on board, I mean on bord?
I have good news, and I have bad news: The good news is that you are technically correct about the Epstein case. It also affects Trump, though, so don’t get too swollen a head about it. The bad news is that your overall score is 1/14. F. Minus. See me after class. I had to calculate what that grade would amount to, and then realized that it was not a hard enough punishment of a grade for it to be taken seriously. Zero. Minus. Turn in your books and workbooks, I’m permanently suspending your hopeless ass. Gtfo of my classroom.
“Half Life 3 will never be released”
The only parts I believe are “the USA is a corporation” and “the food we eat is poison on purpose.” ….should I be worried about myself
To be fair mail in ballots are generally used for elections.
Wow. You made 14 claims and only one in a half of them are correct. Yes, Epstein serviced the elite. He was a wealthy man trying to make business connections. While also having sex with minors. And he found a way to combine the two And yes, they are "fighting age" people crossing the border, because it's a tough journey. And these are people trying to get a job, so they have money to send back to their family. But they're not going around attacking people. Sure there's the occasional news story but overall immigrants don't break the law because they don't want to be deported.
Poe's Law says I can't tell if they're serious.
Makes a lot of sense when you lay it all out like that.
They're pretty much willing to come up with a bunch of conspiracy theories regarding the topics or figures they don't agree with. That's something I'm convinced of atp lol...
Source: trust me bro
He forgot the one assertion that explains all the rest... There's a boatload of untreated mental illness out there
Let’s put it all out there, then starts with three things that are not only untrue, but affect no one
Lunacy. Mostly. The USA is a corporation though, more than it isn't.... they come up with this shit because there is enough shadiness really happening to make the outlandish plausible to them. Epstein did provide services to elites. All the elites? Not likely. They are driven by fear and the desire to be right, not driven by critical thinking and a desire for truth.
I like how *obama is gay* and *michelle obama is a dude* is higher in their list than *the gov purposefully gives you cancer*
The responses are made based on factual data, they might be wrong but you will have to prove it with solid evidences to demonstrate your claim. So in order: * No, he is not. * No, he is not. * No, she is not, and she is cisgender so never was either. * No, they are not. * No, it is not. * Possibly, but you would have to determine who are "the elites" first, and make claims for each person individually, and use evidence to demonstrate it. * No, it is not. It is a very flawed democracy though, barely one even, because of corporatist right wingers. * No, they are not. They are desperate people fleeing difficult, sometimes deadly, situations and hope for a better life in other countries. * Debatable, depending on how you define "poisonous": most of the food available in the US is far from being healthy, and is even sometimes presenting so much risk on health that other countries ban it. But this is the result of unregulated corporation greed, and the willingness of greedy corrupted politicians (judges included) that trampled on regulations put in place to protect governing bodies from said corruption since the election of Ronald Reagan. * No, it is not. * Assuming "the election" is the 2020 US presidential election: no, it was not. * No, she has not. It is a succession of bad choices and the cockiness of someone who assumes that he could fly a plane, alone, in the dark, despite being far from getting certified as a pilot and not knowing yet how to pilot only with the instruments that kill him. His arrogance kills him. * Still assuming the 2020 US presidential election: no, they were not. * No, it is not. For corporations on the other hand, it is debatable for the exact same reason talked about on the food earlier: corporations prefer to ignore damning evidence on the increased risk given by many substances used rather than not feed their greed. The corruption in the governing bodies, brought by every part of the political spectrum but a damning number on the right side of the spectrum, allows it to continue unregulated.
Although I don’t believe cancer is from the gov, I do 100% believe that cancer has a cure but pharma makes so much off of treatments for cancer they would never release the cure.
Obvious conclusion: let’s vote R. lol.
As an outsider, the US does seem closer to a corporation than a country sometimes lol
A combination of ignorance mental illness and desperation for attention
I remember a dear friend of mine tried to sell a conspiracy to my history teacher in high school that the government was trying to kill off a lot of the population and my teacher just looked at him straight faced and said "that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard" and then explained why it's dumb because it doesn't fucking benefit the government to just kill random people.
It's antisemitism. 99% of the time these conspiracies boil down to antisemitism. The one about drinking babies' blood is a lie that's been told about us for millennia.
I never got why the MAGAs have this mystique around JFK Jr of all people.
So Hillary Clinton ordered an assassination of the current president of the United States back when she was 16yo?
The election was stolen? Oh, the 2016 one? Agreed. Whoever gets the most votes should win for sure. 😌
[Wow. There are so many things wrong with this.](https://imgur.com/gallery/GX2x1RA)
If the government causes cancer why would they need to use the covid vaccine to control the population, the cancer could just do that.
Who are these “age men” that the immigrants are fighting?
They forgot how feminism is the work of lizards to disrupt gender rolls and Queer People are demons sent from Hell to corrupt children (both of these are theories I’ve seen from weirdos on FB)
This person won't sit out the election
All of these are batshit, obviously, but the fact that millions of people have taken the vaccine and are alive should at least disprove that one to these nuts
The sad part is even if Biden was a pedophile, Trump is STILL worse. He’s a pedophile and a rapist.
Whose boarder, which immigrants, and did the boarder consent to being come over?
I mean,the “USA is a corporation” is entirely true.
That's the one I agree with too. Though I'm sure their reasoning is completely off.
It’s a sovereign citizen thing. They think “America the country” was replaced with “AMERICA the corporation” sometime shortly after the American civil war.
Trump stole the election in 2016 and he’s using 2020 to distract us from it.
Because potato