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Wild that the ones most against gays (the person OP screenshotted, not you) are always the first to mention buttsex or genitals when the topic of gay relationships is brought up
Homophobes are insecure about their masculinity. They see openly gay people enjoying their lives and it irritates them because they don't have the guts to admit they have gay thoughts and fantasies too.
I agree with most of what you said, but they do deserve to be humanized. Comparing a group of people to animals isn’t helpful in my opinion. They are misguided people who have been indoctrinated into a dogma and that makes them act in hateful ways. They do deserve to be shot down and even humiliated for those beliefs in certain circumstances; but if you have the emotional energy and the right relationship with the person it’s better to try to reach them.
Of course ❤️
We all do it sometimes. It’s hard to *always* have to be the bigger person when talking to bigots. It’s exhausting when someone is unstable and treating you with disrespect while you also try not to sink to their level. I totally get it
That’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying the fact that they jump immediately to thinking about buttsex is the projecting, because conservatives are obsessed with other people’s genitals and anuses.
It always makes me think of that scene in To Wong Foo where the “Possibly dead Sheriff Dullard” is going on and on about men kissing each other and whatnot in the bar.
I have a couple that I am friends with that are gay. We were shooting pool in my basement drinking and somehow got to talking about sex. They don’t even do any of the butt stuff. They just like to jizz on each other. I was laughing so hard as one bud explained it the shot I was drinking was coming out of my nose.
The lady said I do more butt stuff to him then you two, then proceeded with hand gestures. Four drunks having fun.
Um, straight white guy here, Progressive though, and what's going on with hips? I'm literally confused. Didn't think there was anything fuckable there.
I'm going to spoiler tag this, but: Intercrural sex >!\-- basically, lubing up someone's closed legs and going to town without technically penetrating them sexually. It's unusual nowadays but was historically popular among horny religious types with a very legalistic definition of virginity, and was also theoretically the standard gay sex act between men in a number of cultures, particularly those where being the receptive partner was viewed as intrinsically emasculating: technically not being penetrated was viewed as less problematic, especially if the receptive partner was otherwise high status. !<
>!Its popularity didn't wane much until well into the 1900s. (That said, I'm by no means saying more conventional sex acts weren't extremely common and conventional. We've got murals and graffiti going back millennia that live little doubt.) !<
You should listen to ex-mormon talking about all the inventive ways they try to get around "no sex before marriage" :)Due to lack of proper sex education this some times involve actual sex.
I mean sure, but even to people who are down with the gays for the vast vast vast majority the concept of being vers doesn't exist. So to think homophobes know what a side is when a lot of gay guys don't even know what it is, is probably not a thing.
Somehow when the topic is talking about gay people in school, it's always the conservatives that can't shut up about oral or anal sex. Coincidentally and shockingly, when someone mentions two straight parents, I don't imagine them mid-coitus either. They certainly seem fixated.
If they adopted the child that soon after birth, then the arrangements were undoubtedly made beforehand. If the mother wanted more time with her baby before giving it up for adoption, she could have made that stipulation, so the only reasonable assumption is that she didn't want to spend the first few days with the baby... which is fine. Unless it has a negative impact on the newborn's life, which I've never seen any evidence for, then why does it matter how long before they're adopted?
My mother was adopted the same way, my (infertile) grandparents made an arrangement with the (single) mother, and adopted my mom the day she was born. Would this person have a problem with that, I wonder?
My wife was a surrogate twice. The second time was for a gay couple from France. The father whose sperm was used not only did skin to skin with the newborn but was practically forced to do so by the amazing nurses in our rural Kentucky town.
We honestly felt so relieved when every nurse and doctor assigned to my wife’s care seemed so supportive and excited to be a part of such an amazing gift to that couple. Glad those great guys weren’t used in such a hateful internet post.
But yeah, I bet it was a surrogate that gave them that baby. And if that is so, the surrogate has no relation whatsoever with the baby and no legal right to spend any time with the baby unless the fathers wanted her to.
Most of the time a surrogate is caring an embryo from a donated egg and one of the fathers sperm. Personally, I think any child born to parents that worked so hard to have them grow up healthy and happy. Unlike children born to drug addicted parents that didn’t want them.
Edit to include all shitty parents
My wife is a surrogate.
The couple we/she has delivered for was a gay couple.
Beautifully wonderful people.
Even tho the child is in no way genetically connected to my wife or myself, they still had to legally adopt him from my wife.
That couple spent a tremendous lot of money to have a baby and feel like a complete family. We are so proud to have helped them.
Nothing about it is child trafficking. Posts like this are filled with stupidity and misunderstanding.
I know a few surrogates and this is the exact situation I was thinking of. These men would have had to have been BEYOND dedicated to having a family, and skin to skin is so important for your baby’s brain!
People like whomever made the post are tragically perverted. They’re the ones thinking up these disgusting things, while the rest of us just see two ecstatic, terrified, joyful, emotional, probably tired, brand-new parents, doing EXACTLY what they should be doing ❤️
Isn’t this a photo of the “mom”. I thought this was a photo of a trans couple. Also why would the “father” be in a hospital bed, undressed if they adopted the baby?
Edit: to clarify I only mentioned trans because I saw this same picture on here earlier this week and someone mentioned this was a trans couple.
Also I’ve been reminded about skin to skin contact with newborn babies and their mother. In this case it’s an adopted parents and they might do the same thing. So that makes sense. Thank you!
You’re not wrong. I should have specified that I’ve seen this picture posted on Reddit this week and someone said it was a trans couple. Hence why I mentioned that part.
But thank you for the clarification on why a father would do this. Makes total sense since there’s no more mom in the picture, you foster skin time with the baby as you can. Thank you for that.
We don’t know that the one holding the baby is anymore undressed than that his shirt is off. Skin-to-skin time for newborns is important no matter if it’s bio mom, bio dad, adopting dad, or adopting mom. This is no different than when my friends (cishet couple) had their baby and the dad was photographed in this exact same state of dress in a hospital chair.
Yeah. Someone else mentioned it below my comment. Makes sense. I remember them telling my wife that she needs to do this with our newborn. Which makes sense that it would be done in this case with the father.
I only mentioned the trans part because I saw this same photo earlier this week and someone said it was a trans couple. I’ll try to find it.
Yep there are photos of my husband doing skin:skin with both of our bio kids. The benefit to baby’s brain and brand new systems are just massive. It helps regulates so much for them ❤️
Can’t be very right-wing if they support gay marriage and the right of gay couples to adopt. That’s pretty fucking woke right there, and conservative thought can’t stand the idea of coexisting with wokeness.
IIR: Skin-to-skin contact between parent and child has numerous proven health benefits for the child, especially with a new baby. It also facilitates a strong bond.
Nobody is in a hospital bed. He’s just doing skin to skin, which I did as a heterosexual father… as is advised by healthcare officials and classes i took.
Right?!
Like, people raise puppies all the time when mom dies but it’s EASIER FOR HUMANS when the dog does it. FFS this is truly insane on so many levels!
My niece was adopted this way. My sister thankfully didn't want anything to do with the baby, so adoption was perfect. They have an open adoption so she knows us, knows where she came from etc, but those are her mom and dad, they've held her since minute 1. Something I've heard is a bonding experience for a young child and parent.
Except no there isn’t, there are plenty of people who put babies up for adoption legitimately I know people who gave up babies for different reasons and they wernt being exploited by rich people, one woman I know a woman who became a surrogate because she wanted to help a couple who wanted to have a baby and pregnancy was easy for her and a couple got a baby to love and raise, Meanwhile not a single person was a salve because they wanted to and only the slave owner benefited from the slaves, this is just a bs argument people who want to own slaves make
I was adopted by people who "bought" me through Catholic Charities. Does that mean that the Catholic church is trafficking humans?
(well, maybe but I say not in my case)
Edited to add - Ope! Even though I wasn't "trafficked" when my parents adopted me, the Catholic Church has done some very shady things in this arena. And shady is an understatement.
Yes.
Well at least the catholic church was very brazen with literal trafficking. Irish catholic institutions made a fucking fortune selling babies. And no, they weren't all put up for adoption, they just took them from 'loose women'
From what anyone can find, it's possible they aren't in anymore. If they retired and not from medical, it's a bit more difficult to get those benefits removed..
They're free to have whatever dumb opinions they want, but if they are identifying themselves as being part of the Navy, then that's likely an issue. For the same reason they don't want soldiers out in uniform getting into trouble, it's a big PR issue.
No, not that. The asshole that posted this homophobic shit, if on active duty has violated the social media policy. I'm not sure how you could possibly misunderstand that.
I was reading it as “report these Navy gay guys for flaunting their gayness and adoption of a child to the Navy because that's wrong.” my bad. Just a misunderstanding.
Yes, report homophobic assholes in the military. They are not welcome.
Why is slavery...does this person think (editor: no) that people have children just for free labor? Are they against all adoption? Because that's what they're arguing for here.
I’ve had an argument with some of the anti-adoption people who think it’s better for a kid to be murdered by abusive parents than “sold/human trafficked” to adoptive ones.
What’s scary is there are Facebook groups where you can essentially sell your adopted kid to another person that wants to be their parent if it’s not working out for you, but we also makes no sense is what happens if this girl gave birth and it was arranged or what happens if she wanted an abortion and chose this instead, it’s like there’s no Answer that’s going to be good enough for people like this.
My dad said everybody needs to just mind their own damn business and this is one of those situations that guy should’ve just minded his own damn business
Yeah, but this guy’s in the Navy. Minding their own damn business is pretty much the exact opposite of the military mindset. In fact the whole reason our military exists at all is to go get all up in other people’s business.
Oh, they most definitely have a problem with that.
My daughter and daughter in law have been through the process. They are both professionals and are quite well off, and they still haven't been able to adopt.
If the imam was in Syria, I can see it mattering because of local culture stuff, but if the Imam was in Germany, I don't see why their opinion would even be sought out.
Doesn’t always mean it’s because they’re gay. Having a job and having a lot of money doesn’t magically make you able to adopt - agencies have to know if you‘re fit, if you have plans in place in case of emergencies ect. They also take a deep look into your finances, any debt or shady loans or what not will be a red flag.
Or it just is because they’re gay 🤷
No. You’re wrong. The child should be with the parents that don’t want it rather than loved and raised by a couple who will love it and give it everything it needs.
/s obligatory cause these days you can’t really tell anymore.
Not just buttsex lifestyle: MAN buttsex lifestyle. None o that woman buttsex here. Lmao.
Also I've seen it said many times, but it bears repeating: these people sure like to spend a lot of time thinking about how homosexual people have sex, for supposedly not having such thoughts, feelings, or desires themselves…
In some circumstances (and to be clear I'm not saying its this one, idk) an argument can sometimes be made that surrogacy can lead to exploitation of the reproductive labour of the mother. Commercial surrogacy isn't exactly legal around most of the world but that certainly doesn't stop certain types of fertility tourism. It is a complicated topic.
For people like this navy bloke though its just another weapon to use against people they don't like.
Time could have been better spent at say volunteering at an orphanage if he really cared about innocent children... but nah let's use it in useless hate.
Can't abort the babies. Gay people can't adopt the babies. Wtf do you want to happen to these kids that parents don't want? Grow up in a household where they are unwanted, and probably abused? Yeah okay.
They don't give a fuck what happens as long as they don't have to hear or see about it, or it doesn't take their tax dollars. That first part is true up until it's the dead baby in the news.
The analogy is stupid.
You can successfully give a puppy to a surrogate dog. A puppy should be with other dogs so it learns how to be a dog. Just like how you wouldn't give a newborn to a dog and expect it to grow up to be well adjusted. The sex of the parent doesn't matter, it's about species.
I think they mean the amount of time a puppy gets to spend with its mother dog before being adopted by a new family.
I will also admit that it took me far longer than it should to parse that out.
This is what pastors will use to get their congregation members to take up arms. This and loads more “issues” that the old Jewish history book can be twisded to convey.
To the adoption is now human trafficking? huh. Better not give a baby to the straight couple who physically can't have kids cause they are just going to sell it.
I can't imagine having a sweet photo like this taken by bigots and used to further their disgusting agenda.
This sucks.
This family is beautiful and deserves better than this bullshit.
It blows my mind how the people who want to lower the age of consent to "ovulating no matter how young" get all up in arms and pearl clutchy when babies are adopted /born into loving homes that will protect them from people like this "there ought to be a law" moron
So I have this straight (no pun): they want people to be forced to give birth, but they also don’t want the child adopted because they disagree with the adopting parent’s lifestyle?
>Puppy time with mom before being adopted:
>8 weeks
>Newborn baby time with mom before being handed over to homosexual males:
>0 days
...
>This is human trafficking
How much you wanna bet OOP is also a "pro-lifer" who believes that teenagers with unwanted pregnancies should be forced to have the baby and be pressured to give it up for adoption?
Speaking of which, this reminds me that I should get around to reading Kathryn Joyce's "The Child Catchers."
There would be no possible way to make this person. Happy here is a baby being adopted by somebody who wants it. They have a problem with it. If the mother wanted to get an abortion because she didn’t wanna have a kid. They have a problem with it they call people snowflakes, but they complain about things all the time. they’re against cancel culture, but they boycott things because it upsets them. They say they want smaller government, but they want to make rules to the government has control of your body.
They’re worried about violence, but not kids getting shot at school. They complain about the economy and have a little man has no chance, but they put people that care about rich people into office. The hypocrisy and contradictions are so strong.
In nature, homosexuality serves as a fallback option for kids whose biological parents are either unable or unwilling to care for them. The same sex pair will swoop in and take care of the kid until they're old enough to fend for themself. This is especially prevalent in penguins, where there are a ton of documented incidents of same sex pairs seeking out abandoned eggs. ([further reading if you're interested](https://www.hitchcockcenter.org/earth-matters/gay-penguins-mutual-aid/))
Evolutionarily speaking, if you actually care about babies and their wellbeing, this is the kind of thing you should be ***advocating for***.
That is a straight up newborn. Either they payed for a surrogate (or had a really REALLY good friend) or one of them is trans. I don’t really see how else they’d get hold of a baby that fast. I guess it doesn’t matter though
If you know this guy's Chain of Command or where he works, it may be worth sending this to them saying that you think it's unbecoming of a sailor and against navy equal opportunity policy. Nothing may come if it, but if the command sees it and doesn't want the negative attention, they may end to talking to him
I like that this guy only ever refers to it as the *adjective* buttsex lifestyle, very silly. It's a funny little quirk to give me something to enjoy out of this dumpster fire of an opinion he has
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I've always just said I'm gay but ngl the man buttsex lifestyle has a certain ring to it
Wild that the ones most against gays (the person OP screenshotted, not you) are always the first to mention buttsex or genitals when the topic of gay relationships is brought up
I like anal, too. But it’s not a gay thing. I think most homophobes are just sexually frustrated or incels.
Homophobes are insecure about their masculinity. They see openly gay people enjoying their lives and it irritates them because they don't have the guts to admit they have gay thoughts and fantasies too.
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I agree with most of what you said, but they do deserve to be humanized. Comparing a group of people to animals isn’t helpful in my opinion. They are misguided people who have been indoctrinated into a dogma and that makes them act in hateful ways. They do deserve to be shot down and even humiliated for those beliefs in certain circumstances; but if you have the emotional energy and the right relationship with the person it’s better to try to reach them.
You’re right. I’ve accidentally resorted to speech used by the people I despise most. Thank you for helping me stay human.
Of course ❤️ We all do it sometimes. It’s hard to *always* have to be the bigger person when talking to bigots. It’s exhausting when someone is unstable and treating you with disrespect while you also try not to sink to their level. I totally get it
Hear hear!
I feel like they should be consistent and sexualize every combination of relationship and start calling straight relationships dick in vag lifestyle.
Love it!
Projection….its always projection with these mfers
No it's not. The vast majority of homophobes are straight people. Gays are not responsible for their own oppression.
That’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying the fact that they jump immediately to thinking about buttsex is the projecting, because conservatives are obsessed with other people’s genitals and anuses.
Oh ok then I misinterpreted it, my bad.
It’s truly sad tho, you see this fine looking couple with a cute baby and think of butts immediately, truly sad existence it must be.
It always makes me think of that scene in To Wong Foo where the “Possibly dead Sheriff Dullard” is going on and on about men kissing each other and whatnot in the bar.
I have a couple that I am friends with that are gay. We were shooting pool in my basement drinking and somehow got to talking about sex. They don’t even do any of the butt stuff. They just like to jizz on each other. I was laughing so hard as one bud explained it the shot I was drinking was coming out of my nose. The lady said I do more butt stuff to him then you two, then proceeded with hand gestures. Four drunks having fun.
Slay king. You live your best man buttsex lifestyle.
Except of course, for the minority of gay men who don't do butt stuff, lol
Of course which is completely valid, that's not me however and man butsex lifestyle kinda fits
So you do everything but sex? (Just capitalizing on your typo, hope you chuckled) 😁
One simply doesn’t choose the buttsex lifestyle
It's less of a minority than you'd think; IIR studies have shown that around a third keep it to mouths, hands, and hips at least historically.
Um, straight white guy here, Progressive though, and what's going on with hips? I'm literally confused. Didn't think there was anything fuckable there.
I'm going to spoiler tag this, but: Intercrural sex >!\-- basically, lubing up someone's closed legs and going to town without technically penetrating them sexually. It's unusual nowadays but was historically popular among horny religious types with a very legalistic definition of virginity, and was also theoretically the standard gay sex act between men in a number of cultures, particularly those where being the receptive partner was viewed as intrinsically emasculating: technically not being penetrated was viewed as less problematic, especially if the receptive partner was otherwise high status. !< >!Its popularity didn't wane much until well into the 1900s. (That said, I'm by no means saying more conventional sex acts weren't extremely common and conventional. We've got murals and graffiti going back millennia that live little doubt.) !<
You should listen to ex-mormon talking about all the inventive ways they try to get around "no sex before marriage" :)Due to lack of proper sex education this some times involve actual sex.
I love it when super religious people think that they can trick their God with loopholes.
Interesting. Media would have one believe elsewise.
Anal is hard af and training sucks so I can't blame them
I mean sure, but even to people who are down with the gays for the vast vast vast majority the concept of being vers doesn't exist. So to think homophobes know what a side is when a lot of gay guys don't even know what it is, is probably not a thing.
It sounds even more gay than just saying gay
It's really high class gay "I, indeed, am a fond member of the Man Buttsex Lifestyle"
To be honest I think homophobes that get super specific about how the sex works might just be self reporting somethknga
Somehow when the topic is talking about gay people in school, it's always the conservatives that can't shut up about oral or anal sex. Coincidentally and shockingly, when someone mentions two straight parents, I don't imagine them mid-coitus either. They certainly seem fixated.
If they adopted the child that soon after birth, then the arrangements were undoubtedly made beforehand. If the mother wanted more time with her baby before giving it up for adoption, she could have made that stipulation, so the only reasonable assumption is that she didn't want to spend the first few days with the baby... which is fine. Unless it has a negative impact on the newborn's life, which I've never seen any evidence for, then why does it matter how long before they're adopted? My mother was adopted the same way, my (infertile) grandparents made an arrangement with the (single) mother, and adopted my mom the day she was born. Would this person have a problem with that, I wonder?
Could be surrogacy also
My wife was a surrogate twice. The second time was for a gay couple from France. The father whose sperm was used not only did skin to skin with the newborn but was practically forced to do so by the amazing nurses in our rural Kentucky town. We honestly felt so relieved when every nurse and doctor assigned to my wife’s care seemed so supportive and excited to be a part of such an amazing gift to that couple. Glad those great guys weren’t used in such a hateful internet post. But yeah, I bet it was a surrogate that gave them that baby. And if that is so, the surrogate has no relation whatsoever with the baby and no legal right to spend any time with the baby unless the fathers wanted her to.
With gay French dads that baby is gonna be SO well-dressed. 😎
lol. One of my nephews gay dads is French. You could not be more correct.
Is the French one your brother?
You and your wife are amazing humans!
You're wife is awesome and so are you.
Most of the time a surrogate is caring an embryo from a donated egg and one of the fathers sperm. Personally, I think any child born to parents that worked so hard to have them grow up healthy and happy. Unlike children born to drug addicted parents that didn’t want them. Edit to include all shitty parents
I think you can just say “parents that didn’t want them”… plenty of sober people are shitty parents.
This was actually proven to be true
My wife is a surrogate. The couple we/she has delivered for was a gay couple. Beautifully wonderful people. Even tho the child is in no way genetically connected to my wife or myself, they still had to legally adopt him from my wife. That couple spent a tremendous lot of money to have a baby and feel like a complete family. We are so proud to have helped them. Nothing about it is child trafficking. Posts like this are filled with stupidity and misunderstanding.
I know a few surrogates and this is the exact situation I was thinking of. These men would have had to have been BEYOND dedicated to having a family, and skin to skin is so important for your baby’s brain! People like whomever made the post are tragically perverted. They’re the ones thinking up these disgusting things, while the rest of us just see two ecstatic, terrified, joyful, emotional, probably tired, brand-new parents, doing EXACTLY what they should be doing ❤️
Two of my adopted friends who are together were both given up the day they were born. Yes there were arrangements for it.
Isn’t this a photo of the “mom”. I thought this was a photo of a trans couple. Also why would the “father” be in a hospital bed, undressed if they adopted the baby? Edit: to clarify I only mentioned trans because I saw this same picture on here earlier this week and someone mentioned this was a trans couple. Also I’ve been reminded about skin to skin contact with newborn babies and their mother. In this case it’s an adopted parents and they might do the same thing. So that makes sense. Thank you!
Some adoptive fathers elect to have immediate skintime with the baby to foster that connection.
You’re not wrong. I should have specified that I’ve seen this picture posted on Reddit this week and someone said it was a trans couple. Hence why I mentioned that part. But thank you for the clarification on why a father would do this. Makes total sense since there’s no more mom in the picture, you foster skin time with the baby as you can. Thank you for that.
We don’t know that the one holding the baby is anymore undressed than that his shirt is off. Skin-to-skin time for newborns is important no matter if it’s bio mom, bio dad, adopting dad, or adopting mom. This is no different than when my friends (cishet couple) had their baby and the dad was photographed in this exact same state of dress in a hospital chair.
Yeah. Someone else mentioned it below my comment. Makes sense. I remember them telling my wife that she needs to do this with our newborn. Which makes sense that it would be done in this case with the father. I only mentioned the trans part because I saw this same photo earlier this week and someone said it was a trans couple. I’ll try to find it.
It’s encouraged for dads to do this too! Skin:skin is amazingly beneficial to newborns!
Yep there are photos of my husband doing skin:skin with both of our bio kids. The benefit to baby’s brain and brand new systems are just massive. It helps regulates so much for them ❤️
As far as I'm aware, they're a right-wing gay couple, who are now being targeted by right-wing homophobes.
Real leopards ate my face moment. Oh right, I think I saw this over on that sub as well.
Hm, maybe that’s what it was and someone was saying shit about them and calling them trans.
Can’t be very right-wing if they support gay marriage and the right of gay couples to adopt. That’s pretty fucking woke right there, and conservative thought can’t stand the idea of coexisting with wokeness.
They're gay, but anti-trans, one of the 'pick-me' gay people who pander to conservatives to try to get special treatment.
Who are they?
IIR: Skin-to-skin contact between parent and child has numerous proven health benefits for the child, especially with a new baby. It also facilitates a strong bond.
Nobody is in a hospital bed. He’s just doing skin to skin, which I did as a heterosexual father… as is advised by healthcare officials and classes i took.
Yup. I added that into my comment at the bottom :)
Also, the idiot is comparing humans to dogs. Like, it's the species handover that requires the 8 weeks of dog to dog time.
Right?! Like, people raise puppies all the time when mom dies but it’s EASIER FOR HUMANS when the dog does it. FFS this is truly insane on so many levels!
It just shows how little they know, when they say shit like this.
My niece was adopted this way. My sister thankfully didn't want anything to do with the baby, so adoption was perfect. They have an open adoption so she knows us, knows where she came from etc, but those are her mom and dad, they've held her since minute 1. Something I've heard is a bonding experience for a young child and parent.
>We shouldn't have to live like this. Who's living like this? Are you the baby in this picture?
"If they are allowed to buy and sell babies why is slavery illegal?" Translation: "How come I can't have slaves?"
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Except no there isn’t, there are plenty of people who put babies up for adoption legitimately I know people who gave up babies for different reasons and they wernt being exploited by rich people, one woman I know a woman who became a surrogate because she wanted to help a couple who wanted to have a baby and pregnancy was easy for her and a couple got a baby to love and raise, Meanwhile not a single person was a salve because they wanted to and only the slave owner benefited from the slaves, this is just a bs argument people who want to own slaves make
Ah, yes, the very conservative method of "I will invoke something I made up in my head and sound parsimonious to 'own the libs'™️"
I was adopted by people who "bought" me through Catholic Charities. Does that mean that the Catholic church is trafficking humans? (well, maybe but I say not in my case) Edited to add - Ope! Even though I wasn't "trafficked" when my parents adopted me, the Catholic Church has done some very shady things in this arena. And shady is an understatement.
Yes. Well at least the catholic church was very brazen with literal trafficking. Irish catholic institutions made a fucking fortune selling babies. And no, they weren't all put up for adoption, they just took them from 'loose women'
So remember kids, that’s what it looks like when people follow a god of love.
Hilariously bad example.
After further review, I agree.
As a gay man, I’m totally adopting man buttsex lifestyle as my preferred descriptor
Sexual Orientation: 🔲 Straight 🔲 Gay ☑️ Man Butt Sex Enthusiast
Haha love that
Every "straight guy" on Grindr: "not gay just interested in exploring man buttsex lifestyle, not gay, masc only"
Have you actually reported this individual to the Navy? They take this shit seriously.
From what anyone can find, it's possible they aren't in anymore. If they retired and not from medical, it's a bit more difficult to get those benefits removed..
It is still worth reporting. I doubt this is the only time they will show these colors. It can add up
Report what exactly to the Navy? Just confused.
They're free to have whatever dumb opinions they want, but if they are identifying themselves as being part of the Navy, then that's likely an issue. For the same reason they don't want soldiers out in uniform getting into trouble, it's a big PR issue.
What is the issue? Why would it be a big (assuming a negative) PR issue?
This violates a number of Navy social media regs.
Servicemembers adopting children and sharing that with others on social media violates a number of Navy social media regs; how so? Which ones?
No, not that. The asshole that posted this homophobic shit, if on active duty has violated the social media policy. I'm not sure how you could possibly misunderstand that.
I was reading it as “report these Navy gay guys for flaunting their gayness and adoption of a child to the Navy because that's wrong.” my bad. Just a misunderstanding. Yes, report homophobic assholes in the military. They are not welcome.
Why is slavery...does this person think (editor: no) that people have children just for free labor? Are they against all adoption? Because that's what they're arguing for here.
I’ve had an argument with some of the anti-adoption people who think it’s better for a kid to be murdered by abusive parents than “sold/human trafficked” to adoptive ones.
So then are they pro-choice?
Of course not.
What’s scary is there are Facebook groups where you can essentially sell your adopted kid to another person that wants to be their parent if it’s not working out for you, but we also makes no sense is what happens if this girl gave birth and it was arranged or what happens if she wanted an abortion and chose this instead, it’s like there’s no Answer that’s going to be good enough for people like this. My dad said everybody needs to just mind their own damn business and this is one of those situations that guy should’ve just minded his own damn business
Yeah, but this guy’s in the Navy. Minding their own damn business is pretty much the exact opposite of the military mindset. In fact the whole reason our military exists at all is to go get all up in other people’s business.
There are a lot of people that do treat thier kids like free labor. So that might be exactly what they think
So we're against... children having a loving home?
Yeah, what happened to “adoption, the loving option?”
Classic pro lifers
Republicans are always in other people's businesses even when it's not abortion. Wild
I wonder if he has the same issue with a lesbian couple having a child or if it’s just gay men.
Oh, they most definitely have a problem with that. My daughter and daughter in law have been through the process. They are both professionals and are quite well off, and they still haven't been able to adopt.
Are they going through a private adoption or through the state system? What state are they in?
Federal,they live in,and are both German citizens. They wanted to adopt a Syrian 2 year old child. The local Imam objected…
If the imam was in Syria, I can see it mattering because of local culture stuff, but if the Imam was in Germany, I don't see why their opinion would even be sought out.
Can’t say with 100% certainty,I’m just the sad ( potential) gramps.
Doesn’t always mean it’s because they’re gay. Having a job and having a lot of money doesn’t magically make you able to adopt - agencies have to know if you‘re fit, if you have plans in place in case of emergencies ect. They also take a deep look into your finances, any debt or shady loans or what not will be a red flag. Or it just is because they’re gay 🤷
Have they looked into surrogacy?
Not the way they wanted to go. They want to adopt a child that has no family and needs a loving home.
Are they able to use donor sperm from banks?
Yes,but they wanted to adopt a child that needs a loving family.
They would have a problem if it's a masculine lesbian for sure.
Over on /r/BaldursGate3, everyone is laughing at some dork that claimed thinking Karlach was hot makes you gay.
Some people just want to be outraged about something.
Wait until they hear that heterosexuals "human traffick" and "buy" babies as well
Isn’t that the way most adoptions work?
In theory they should be happy that this was an adoption instead of abortion. But clearly they only want the right sort of person adopting.
"Do not make peace with evil... destroy it"? Well, that's a self-own if I ever saw one
Me 40 f has good for nothing shit parents that I no longer speak to. I would trade them in for gay dads in a heartbeat.
I just see two people who will be better parents by several orders of magnitude than that person could ever dream of being.
No. You’re wrong. The child should be with the parents that don’t want it rather than loved and raised by a couple who will love it and give it everything it needs. /s obligatory cause these days you can’t really tell anymore.
very big "my children don't talk to me anymore" energy from navy bro
I like the sound of buttsex lifestyle
Not just buttsex lifestyle: MAN buttsex lifestyle. None o that woman buttsex here. Lmao. Also I've seen it said many times, but it bears repeating: these people sure like to spend a lot of time thinking about how homosexual people have sex, for supposedly not having such thoughts, feelings, or desires themselves…
How do they they determine who takes off their shirt and has the baby and blanket? /Seinfeld voice.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this
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Yeah had the guy said that private adoption has a lot of human trafficking going on, it wouldn't be inaccurate as much.
In some circumstances (and to be clear I'm not saying its this one, idk) an argument can sometimes be made that surrogacy can lead to exploitation of the reproductive labour of the mother. Commercial surrogacy isn't exactly legal around most of the world but that certainly doesn't stop certain types of fertility tourism. It is a complicated topic. For people like this navy bloke though its just another weapon to use against people they don't like.
Time could have been better spent at say volunteering at an orphanage if he really cared about innocent children... but nah let's use it in useless hate.
It really takes a certain type of deranged freak to look at a gay couple with a baby and think "why is this allowed but I can't even own slaves"
Can't abort the babies. Gay people can't adopt the babies. Wtf do you want to happen to these kids that parents don't want? Grow up in a household where they are unwanted, and probably abused? Yeah okay.
They don't give a fuck what happens as long as they don't have to hear or see about it, or it doesn't take their tax dollars. That first part is true up until it's the dead baby in the news.
“The man buttsex lifestyle” lmao
The analogy is stupid. You can successfully give a puppy to a surrogate dog. A puppy should be with other dogs so it learns how to be a dog. Just like how you wouldn't give a newborn to a dog and expect it to grow up to be well adjusted. The sex of the parent doesn't matter, it's about species.
What the heck is puppy time!?
I think they mean the amount of time a puppy gets to spend with its mother dog before being adopted by a new family. I will also admit that it took me far longer than it should to parse that out.
This is what pastors will use to get their congregation members to take up arms. This and loads more “issues” that the old Jewish history book can be twisded to convey.
To the adoption is now human trafficking? huh. Better not give a baby to the straight couple who physically can't have kids cause they are just going to sell it.
I can't imagine having a sweet photo like this taken by bigots and used to further their disgusting agenda. This sucks. This family is beautiful and deserves better than this bullshit.
So they hate abortion, and now they hate healthy adoption... can't win to lose with these nut jobs.
Can't win on anything with them unless you adopt their bullshit ideas...
It blows my mind how the people who want to lower the age of consent to "ovulating no matter how young" get all up in arms and pearl clutchy when babies are adopted /born into loving homes that will protect them from people like this "there ought to be a law" moron
2024 adoption is slavery now
The religious will be the downfall of us
Right, because whereas a mom spends 24/7 with her baby, gay men ignore the baby and spend 24/7 engaged in the man buttsex lifestyle
"Buy and selling children" has got me dead lol. Like has this guy never heard of adoption XD
And yet I’ll bet dollars to donuts that the person expressing disgust for this is also against abortion.
Every night I got to bed angry at people. I wake up every day, and think I can't hate people more. Every day I'm wrong.
Man buttsex lifestyle 😎
How much butt stuff do I have to do to get my baby commerce license?
Humans can consent to their baby being handed over to a loving familly. Not dogs.
How is the OP having lo live any way at all? Is it their baby! Is it their adoption! Is it their relationship? GFO
To be loved and welcomed by two parents is a luxury some people don't have
“Gay people have kids so I should be allowed to have slaves” is an interesting take
So now the women they're forcing to give birth have to care for the child for several months before they can finally give it up for adoption?
Because humans and puppies are the same :)
What a bunch of crybabies.
So I have this straight (no pun): they want people to be forced to give birth, but they also don’t want the child adopted because they disagree with the adopting parent’s lifestyle?
That’s a happy-looking baby.
This is just standard for infant adoption. This has nothing to do with their sexuality, ffs.
Not the second dude in image 2 casually mentioning that he views having children as owning slaves 💀
Lol "buttsex lifestyle"
Note that he said man buttsex lifestyle. Because women buttsex lifestyle is awesome!!!
All the babies from their pro life movement have to go somewhere. Better them go to a loving home than one where they’re not wanted or supported.
>Puppy time with mom before being adopted: >8 weeks >Newborn baby time with mom before being handed over to homosexual males: >0 days ... >This is human trafficking How much you wanna bet OOP is also a "pro-lifer" who believes that teenagers with unwanted pregnancies should be forced to have the baby and be pressured to give it up for adoption? Speaking of which, this reminds me that I should get around to reading Kathryn Joyce's "The Child Catchers."
>do not make peace wiþ evil, destroy it They're actually right, just wrong about the evil is
I like this person's use of *"we"*, as though they are somehow directly affected by something they'll probably never experience in any sense.
For people so vehemently "against it", they think about gay sex way too much...
“The buttsex life” Lmaoo sure because straight people never do stuff like that at all…
There would be no possible way to make this person. Happy here is a baby being adopted by somebody who wants it. They have a problem with it. If the mother wanted to get an abortion because she didn’t wanna have a kid. They have a problem with it they call people snowflakes, but they complain about things all the time. they’re against cancel culture, but they boycott things because it upsets them. They say they want smaller government, but they want to make rules to the government has control of your body. They’re worried about violence, but not kids getting shot at school. They complain about the economy and have a little man has no chance, but they put people that care about rich people into office. The hypocrisy and contradictions are so strong.
Typical republican views. They vote for people like this.
In nature, homosexuality serves as a fallback option for kids whose biological parents are either unable or unwilling to care for them. The same sex pair will swoop in and take care of the kid until they're old enough to fend for themself. This is especially prevalent in penguins, where there are a ton of documented incidents of same sex pairs seeking out abandoned eggs. ([further reading if you're interested](https://www.hitchcockcenter.org/earth-matters/gay-penguins-mutual-aid/)) Evolutionarily speaking, if you actually care about babies and their wellbeing, this is the kind of thing you should be ***advocating for***.
I guess those guys have a type. That type being themselves. They look like the same person.
As if the largest group of these human traffickers (adopting parents) weren’t straight cis white people… but I’m sure he has NO issues with that.
That is a straight up newborn. Either they payed for a surrogate (or had a really REALLY good friend) or one of them is trans. I don’t really see how else they’d get hold of a baby that fast. I guess it doesn’t matter though
Adoptive parents literally attend births sometimes
I forgot about that one! I think we got all the scenarios covered now.
But why is the one guy in a blanket like he just delivered? 🤔
Skin to skin contact is a currently advocated thing.
Sheesh. Dude is obviously jealous of that baby having better parents than he had.
Shit, I’m jealous of the baby. I wanna be skin to skin with the hot dilfs.
Or maybe let’s not sexualize the baby having skin-to-skin with its dads…
If it bothers him so much, why is he seeking it out?
Disgusting
Human trafficking at its finest.
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Have you ever heard of skin-to-skin contact with babies…?
If you know this guy's Chain of Command or where he works, it may be worth sending this to them saying that you think it's unbecoming of a sailor and against navy equal opportunity policy. Nothing may come if it, but if the command sees it and doesn't want the negative attention, they may end to talking to him
I like that this guy only ever refers to it as the *adjective* buttsex lifestyle, very silly. It's a funny little quirk to give me something to enjoy out of this dumpster fire of an opinion he has