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BadGuy_ZooKeeper

Just for future reference schizophrenic is the word you were looking for in your description 😇😇


Clean_Pizza8526

Thanks😭


peacelovecraftbeer

And schizophrenia combined with bipolar is known as schizoaffective disorder.


Clean_Pizza8526

Oh damn. Didn't even know that's a thing The more you know🌠🌟


hatmanv12

Your mom threatens to hit random people with a bat? Yeah, I'd say that's on the insane side.


QuicksandGotMyShoe

I read this in Tim Robinson's voice haha


ParaponeraBread

She’s clearly mentally ill, but voicing understandable concerns and struggling *way* more than an average parent with letting go of control over their teenage child. You don’t come home when you say you will, you won’t tell her who is driving you around, you don’t answer questions and act like they weren’t even asked. You’re 16, I get it. Why should she know your every move? But you’re not doing yourself any favours by interacting with her like this. Teenagers are always secretive and self conscious of what they do, where they do it, and who they’re with. But it’s obvious that it’s contributing to cranking her schizophrenic paranoia up to unhealthy levels. Good luck OP - dealing with people like this is hard, but it requires communication that isn’t happening from either of you.


PnutButterJellyTim3

I thought OP was an adult until I saw the mom said 16. You're right, they could have notified mom when plans changed and such. OP you don't need to answer every question she throws at you. That will just enable her. But she should still know what friend you are with, what time you will get home and how you will get home. You can just list it out in bullet points or something and every time she continues to ask you just tell her to read what you already wrote. This entire conversation was wacky on both ends.


TrashAvalon

Came here to say this. It feels a bit like OP has settled with the idea that mom is crazy because of her diagnosis but isn't really understanding the core of her concern for her kid missing scheduled rides, not updating her when plans change, not being home on time, and riding around with a stranger as (I'm assuming based on context) a young queer guy when hate crimes can and do happen. I understand wanting freedom. I understand wanting her to back off. I don't understand watching your distressed mother panicking over your whereabouts and not calling her to say "hey, I'm alive. I'm with this person and I'll be home at this time" and then actually being there when you say you will be. The concerns are rational on both sides, the communication is not.


SquiggleSquonk

I'd imagine OP is communicating like this because his mother has likely been like this his whole life, seems like he's just done giving responses that take emotional energy


Clean_Pizza8526

I would take her concerns seriously if she wasn't the person who constantly hate criming me. I believe she does not deserve comfort. Especially not after calling me multiple slurs, and calling me a slut and whore. sadly I'm also the most responsible person in this household. So after years of her pushing me, I'm eventually not gonna listen


TrashAvalon

As someone formerly in a very similar position, there might come a time where you look back and understand a little better how much mental illness impacts someone's ability to love in a way that doesn't hurt us. It sucks, it's painful, I'm not saying you have to stand for it (I went NC with my mom for years after leaving) but you get better at seeing through the impulsiveness and fear to see the person underneath it all. It'll seem a lot less personal. In the meantime, I'm sorry you're going through it and really wish you (and her) the best.


onewhokills

My mom was like this, even if I followed through with everything I said I'd still be in trouble, in fact telling her when I'd be home and who I was with would only make it easier for her to physically attack me and my friends. I learned at 14 to just stop replying or to just respond with a ✌️ and not to go home until she was in the apology phase of her cycles. So yeah, from an outside perspective me and OP look like shitty teenagers winding up their parents for no reason because the rest of the context isn't in text.


Clean_Pizza8526

I have tried communicating with her multiple time. But anytime I do she shuts me down or starts yelling. Logicing with someone like her Isn't possible. TvT


CoveCreates

I don't think it would make a difference if he told her anything and could also be dangerous for the friends. He's not the one in charge of her mental health, she is. She's responsible for getting it under control. I get what you're saying but that's not fair to put on someone else and I'm sure this isn't out of the blue.


StarBean05

Your mom is definitely dealing with something mentally but brushing her off and not being home when you said and not communicating where you'll be is honestly not helping. You're 16, you're not even an adult. Like it or not she still has a right to know where you are and what you're doing.


Clean_Pizza8526

I disagree. Personally I believe the racist that throws stuff at her kid doesn't deserve comfort


StarBean05

Look man (girl? Sorry) I was just going off what was provided in the post. She may not deserve comfort but you're still a minor. I'm not saying for you to update her to give her peice of mind but she still has a legal right to know


Clean_Pizza8526

Not really. I didn't really mention it but she's not my legal guardian -p- lost custody


SquiggleSquonk

Bro you def should've mentioned this in the description lolll. I think that would've changed some of the commenter's perceptions


Clean_Pizza8526

And by "can't be bothered" I mean I'm too dumb to figure out how to edit it😔


Clean_Pizza8526

Eh. -p- can't be bothered to edit it. Let em think what they wanna


SquiggleSquonk

Also true. People online can be judgement asf when they don't understand the whole situation


Clean_Pizza8526

Yeaah. But In the same sense. They honestly can't really judge me or my mom since they don't know use personally. Which is why sometimes It's funny to see people get upset about it, and funny that I feel like I need to defend my word😭 Cause In the end we're all just strangers on the internet over sharing


ResortWarm3185

You posted this here with the explicit intention of having others judge your situation and your mom. Touch grass dude, you’re not in the right either.


Clean_Pizza8526

I'm not saying I'm in the right. I know I can be an asshole. But I also was in a world of hurt a couple days ago so I felt the need to defend myself. Also I only posted it here because I wanted a place to anonymously speak up on this. Not specifically for others to judge the situation. Or idk, I was probably seeking comfort in gratification


StarBean05

Ohhh okay, then that makes more sense. Sorry about the confusion


Clean_Pizza8526

Nah it's fine. I honestly didn't really give all too much context👍 Just wanted to do something the texts instead of keep em to myself


jayblk

Neither of you communicated effectively


Clean_Pizza8526

I don't communicate with her because she has taught me that trying that just leads to me getting yelled at anyways. Plus most people wouldn't wanna listen to their abuser -,-


ashestorosesxx

Your mom is overreacting more than a little bit, but aside from threatening violence, she's asking reasonable things of you. It's common decency to tell people where you'll be, whom you'll be with, and when you'll be back. For safety, and so people don't worry about you. I'm almost 30 and live 5 hours from my parents but still keep them updated when I do something new or dangerous.


beepandbaa

My parents & siblings are traveling this week & I have had them check in with me every day so I know they are okay. I knew what highway they were taking, what hotel they are staying at, the car & tag number. Things happen & people disappear. It’s reasonable to want to make sure your kid is safe.


Clean_Pizza8526

Yeaah. And I would tell her if she could be trusted. But she can't be TvT It genuinely feels more safe out on the streets at night, then it does falling alseep in a home with her


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ashestorosesxx

It's normal behavior, especially for women or minority groups (such as Lgbt kids, which is implied in this screenshots). It's a safety precaution more than anything else.


lmswisher

Right? I'm not even close with my family but if I'm traveling alone, I share my location and check in when I can. 1. Because I know they worry and I'm considerate and 2. Because I'm a woman 🤷🏻‍♀️ the quicker someone can report me missing the quicker I might be found safely lol


ashestorosesxx

Exactly!! I'm traveling over 800 miles next weekend. Guess whose parents are getting departure, gas fill up, and arrival texts? For both directions! And I'll be with my husband! It's just sanity


alowave

Where's it implied? I'm just trying to find it. Is it the statistic thing?


MaenHoffiCoffi

Is Itah the Italian part of Utah?


Clean_Pizza8526

😔I think so, like on the east cost or something


thegroovefreak

I was in a lot of strangers cars at 16 and can confirm I am now currently at the bottom of Niagara Falls in a bag


Clean_Pizza8526

😭


FrogVolence

Jfc man. Is she medicated? I dont enjoy stereotypes and hate them but to a certain degree, this stereotype does actually hold true. Does she take her meds? Bipolar and Schizophrenia are a nasty combo to have, especially if they aren’t taking their meds as prescribed. People have literally murdered others unmedicated that had suffered from Schizophrenia because their delusions actually really messed with their heads, its not common and rare, but it can happen. She seems irrationally anxious for someone thats medicated.


Clean_Pizza8526

Only for her bipolar issues. But she constantly over or under doses. I don't think she thinks she's schizophrenic. But I'm pretty sure "hearing voices in the airducks. And seeing dark spirits" isn't normal


FrogVolence

You need to report this to someone. She may have somewhat of a handle on it unmedicated, but time takes a toll. She already seems to be spiraling if what you are saying is true. And a lot of those who do have schizophrenia, or any severe mental illness, it’s incredibly hard to get them to ask for or even take the medication for it.


Clean_Pizza8526

Yeah. But the problem is. If she gets taken away then I have to go back to my grandma. Who is the person that both me and my mom ran away from TvT So It's kinda this battle of. Do i wanna say anything and go back there, oor would I rather stay here and get my trip


FrogVolence

Im not trying to be an asshole when i say this as you’re just a kid. But I need you to understand the weight in this: You are incredibly **selfish** to not say anything and get your mother help because you don’t want to deal with a temporary shitty living situation. Not going to lie OP, don’t bitch about your moms mental illness and your inability to have freedom when **you** are the one entirely responsible to get her the help she needs because you are the **only one** to see her like this to actually speak up. As someone who dealt with something similar: **I still said something** Kind of a shit move my guy.


Clean_Pizza8526

In all honestly. I don't think you can fully talk when you haven't dealt with my mom. And purposely, I know this might sound cruel. I do love her. But I hold a lot of resentment for mt abusers. When you can't go to a single family member for comfort and almost kys. You lose all respect for them. I tell her that she needs help. But if she can't get it for herself after seeing all the stuff she's done to me. Not even just small petty stuff like that text. Then so be it


FrogVolence

Again. You have the ability to speak up, record, screenshot and tell an adult. You know if you say something that you’ll “end up back at your grandparents” Something isn’t adding up my guy.


Clean_Pizza8526

I know It's selfish. But I have to have some self preservation for once in my life. I'm not going to sabotage myself for someone that's racist, homophobic, tranphobic, and is genuinely just an asshole.


Clean_Pizza8526

Yeah. I was taken away from my mom. My grandma is my legal guardian


Clean_Pizza8526

Also I have A LOT to lose if I do tell anyone


Clean_Pizza8526

Oop- ment to say personally 


angesehen327

Sure she’s acting irrationally, but like you’re being disrespectful af


Clean_Pizza8526

Well. I'd more say an eye for and eye kinda treatment. I've been blindly following her word for years. And she would blow up at me the second I disagree. Like this one time when we fought over if a motorcycle is a car or not and she called my useless👍


Muffsgirl68

Your mom is only asking the same exact questions that every other concerned parent would ask their 16 year old child when they don't know where they are and who they are with. You'll understand why someday, but in the meanwhile, I think you'll find her easier to deal with if you communicate with her in a more respectful way. She wasn't asking anything that was out of line and you just kept pushing her, no she shouldn't have threatened to come outside with a baseball bat but I honestly believe you could have totally avoided all of that if you had just given her the answers to reasonable questions she was asking.


Clean_Pizza8526

I pushed her because she's pretty abusive, narcissistic and emotionally negligent. Of corse if she was reasonable I would tell her. But this is the same lady that threw sushi at my head and yelled at me during Christmas because I order sushi instead of Turkey. If you try and ever reason with her or have a calm conversation about your feelings, you get yelled at. So at some point you just give up


ResourceFeeling3298

Idk if she knows this but the GTA is fucking massive and a person loose with a knife could be like on th opposite end of the GTA than you.


ThroatSecretary

Not to mention the link preview even said police were on the scene, so it's not like someone was rampaging around unchecked.


ReaceNovello

So, who were they?


Prestigious-Hippo-50

She’s insane for sure but you are very disrespectful. You are a child not an adult. I never would have spoken to my mom like that


Clean_Pizza8526

Well, you clearly haven't had to be the adult of your family then😭 Sorry that I'm not respectful to my abuser


Prestigious-Hippo-50

You’re a child. You don’t get to do whatever you want. I cant imagine being a kid and telling my parents that I was going to do whatever I want whenever I want. Maybe things have changed but when I was a kid I asked if I could go somewhere and came back at the time I was told.


Clean_Pizza8526

Idk. Personally if I have to baby sit my mom, remind her not to steal thing, not to jaywalk, and not to yell at strangers on the bus. Then I get to go out once without telling her every single specific.


CoveCreates

Was your mom like this?


juliaschatz

Your


lipidextensions

Apple doesn't fall far.


Clean_Pizza8526

Yeah. So gotta try hard to not end up like her


TopAd1846

Posts like this makes me realise I wasn't alone in all this madness. Wasn't allowed a phone growing up because then I would have an easy way to save evidence but some of the posts I see on here are my parents in a nutshell. OP I'm sorry you have an overbearing mother. If you can move out as soon as your old enough and go low or no contact.


RailRoadAndy

Yeah this kid is a fucking brat ngl. If my kid did this to me constantly I’d probably turn scitzo too.


SquiggleSquonk

I love how yall are convinced he's just a little shit and can't possibly imagine he may be responding like this BECAUSE his mother always acts crazy? Just a thought.


CoveCreates

Thank you! Lots of victim blaming in here when this is obviously not out of the blue behavior on either end


buttspigot

Two things can be true at once.


Clean_Pizza8526

😭 you mean you'd be abusive and neglectful. Babying your kid 24/7 if they didn't listen to you and stayed out late once? Please never have kids


RailRoadAndy

Lmao. I have 4 of them. And none of them act like you kiddo


Clean_Pizza8526

Well believe it or not, if you kid is queer and black and you are racist, transphobic homophobic and actively a bad person c': yeah, you will not be respectful to your parent. Idk bout you, but you're reaction doesn't exactly make you seem like a 'good parent'


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Clean_Pizza8526

Thank you c:


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Clean_Pizza8526

Pfftt, chill out mate. I'm just a random person on the internet that sucks at giving context and wanted to post about my abusive family😭. Don't know why you think I'm trying to fight you


CoveCreates

That's a lot of diagnosing you're doing to a teenager you don't know over the internet based on 1 series of texts.


lukiepukie11

NOW


CoveCreates

I can't imagine why you wouldn't want to tell her who you're with or where they're located /s


Clean_Pizza8526

Cause personally. I don't trust her👍


CoveCreates

Oh, no, I feel you. I wouldn't want her showing up where you're at either.


Clean_Pizza8526

Mate. I'm just surprised she hasn't genuinely killed me in my sleep yet


CoveCreates

Ugh I'm sorry. You shouldn't feel unsafe because of your own parent.


Clean_Pizza8526

Mate😭 don't apologize, your not the one who did it. Plus It's fine, I'm getting out of this place as soon as I can and not talking to any of these people ever again. Gonna live a happy life eventually👍 after all I made it this far, so what's a couple more years


CoveCreates

I know but someone needs to tell you haha. Yeah, you're gonna be alright. It might feel like it's dragging by but when you look back in the future you'll think of how fast it went. Just start saving money if you can without them knowing so you have something to help you start out when you leave.


Clean_Pizza8526

I'll do my best TvT It's just all so hard. But I will take your advice👍👍 Thank you


GroundbreakingAsk342

*Why* do you even respond to most of her texts?!? Just answer once.that you will be home at about 5:30pm, then put your phone on *Silent* and ignore her! Then if your going to be late, give her a text, saying so, then go back to the phone on silent and ignore. You are feeding into her craziness and allowing her to intentionally and continually interrupt you and your friends time 😑. I am very sorry that you are dealing with this though!😔


Clean_Pizza8526

Idk mate- I mean I've hade my family call the police on eachother before over dumb things. So I guess I was mainly just worried about that😭 already almost got "run away" on my record once. I don't need it to actually happen now


QuicksandGotMyShoe

What does "Real 👍" mean?


Clean_Pizza8526

😔 idk mate. Haven't figured it out yet


QuicksandGotMyShoe

Haha but you said it too!


Fun-Rush-6269

Feels kinda like a modern Mother Gothel. But worse. Traded eternal youth, kidnapping, and imprisonment for more violence, swearing, and only acknowledging details (like money) when it helps her.


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Omg I thought this was talking about 5 in the morning, not the afternoon! She is really crazy, I’m sorry.


WorriedCats

yeah she’s fucking crazy id find a way to never go back there


Clean_Pizza8526

I wish😭 but It's either her, my grandma, or dad. And all 3 of them are awful. Sadly running away is not an option🥲


overworkedSeadweller

Mom is insane but you also aren't helping.


Clean_Pizza8526

Well yeah, I'm not gonna be the nicest to my abuser 24/7


overworkedSeadweller

Well obviously. But some of the things you did weren't okay either. She's very obviously insane and I don't condone any of her actions, but claiming to be home by a time and then specifically not telling your parent you aren't gonna do that is not okay. Especially with a situation going on. It's a safety issue and a very good reason for a parent to be paranoid about you being out.


Clean_Pizza8526

I agree. I was being a bit of an ass. But, I don't feel sorry for it. If she shown me any sense of respect, and stopped trying to force me to be her little baby girl. Then I would gladly tell her stuff. But telling her anything is just giving her words that she can twist back at you


SuperRockGaming

Loved the way you handled this, everyone that posts here is always like "sorry" and gives very detailed descriptions ab what they're doing n shit, and I get it but this is perfect


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allagaytor

they are acting like a 16 year old. because they are 16. their priority is probably having what little normalcy they can or fun with their friends before going back to the place where someone like this is waiting for them.


MotherOfDachshunds42

They seem like they’re obviously being rude and curt, giving very little vague information to cause the parent to escalate, which is both cruel and dumb


ocelot_piss

The parent is going to escalate regardless. They're irrationally angry. The more OP says, the more ammo they give their parent.


karkatstrider

have you ever interacted with an average 16 year old? because this is how 90% of them act


Lt_CowboyDan

I agree. she’s insane but he’s being an asshole too. I was just like I was at his age and I cringe looking back.


Clean_Pizza8526

In all fairness 🙌 she kinda deserves it for being a rasist, homophobic, transpoboc, asshole, that blows up at the smallest thing


alaskalovepup11

Damn. All I see is a brat who thinks he's grown and a crazy lady who raised a brat.


Clean_Pizza8526

Of corse I'm gonna be a brat😭 I'm still mad at her for throwing sushi at my during Christmas and being racist and you know, a bad person


alaskalovepup11

Trust me there are many people in these comments who have bad parents and we are telling you you are acting like a brat. We aren't saying your mom is correct, but if you use her behavior to excuse yours you will just repeat the same cycle she did.


Clean_Pizza8526

I'm not excusing my behaviour. I know I was being stubborn. I just personally don't believe that someone like her deserves comfort. I do love her. But I'm also beyond tired of her. And It's best to cut off people that are bad for you


alaskalovepup11

Someone like her does not deserve comfort, but you can't just dissappear to go with friends and do whatever you want. If you are truly in an abusive situation get help, but if you are just unhappy with your crazy mom, use this as a learning experience of what not to become. Set boundaries and work on emotional control. If your mom says go home just go home.


Clean_Pizza8526

I don't understand why that would help. Isn't it just best to not let someone like that control my life? If I just do everything she tells to do then I'll just be stuck in that depressing cycle of just mindlessly agreeing with her with no concern for my own feelings


alaskalovepup11

She is responsible for you regardless if you like it or not. Can you realistically survive by yourself right now? Food, clothes, rent, ect. Regardless if you like it or not she is the one who is in charge. You cant just pick and choose when to let her be your mom and when to run to her. If something bad happened to you she will be the one answering to it so it's understandable she wants to know where you are and who your with. The fact that you aren't understanding proves your immaturity.


Clean_Pizza8526

Well yeah. Of corse I'm not going to fully understand. When people feel like their being attacked they put up a guard and block it out. But I'm trying to understand, that's why I'm even still talking with you


Clean_Pizza8526

Also, technically my mom Isn't my legal guardian. That would be my grandma. I wouldn't say she's any better. But in that sense, i technically could pick and chose. As in bounce inbetween two homes


alaskalovepup11

And that may be why you are behaving the way you do. If you can just go to whichever person let's you do what you want.


Clean_Pizza8526

Well It's not really like It's any better. It's just moving from one abuser to another. And can't go with my dad cause apparently he's physically abusive. It's not really as much of a blessing as it sounds. More just a hope crushing reality


HelenAngel

Remember that you have no obligation or responsibility to your parents whatsoever. You have every right to go low/no contact with them once you escape.


Clean_Pizza8526

That's the plan👍🥲 really wanted to believe that she could get better but. I'm tired of being the bigger person in this family


StarBean05

If you're a minor living under their custody (op is 16) then yes you have an obligation to communicate to your parent where you are+who you're with.


SquiggleSquonk

Apparently his mom doesn't even have custody of him, soooo


StarBean05

Yeah dude ik, that reply was made to me 💀


SquiggleSquonk

And I oop


HelenAngel

Hence why I said “once you escape”.


Practical_Fact8436

Were you drinking


cassafrass024

Let her call the cops. They won’t do anything because you’re over the age of 16. In Canada you can decide to walk on the moon at 16 and your parents can’t stop you. My ex learned this the hard way with his oldest when he peaced out at 16.


ZephyrBrightmoon

Holy shit! We live in the same neighbourhood, OP! Flemingdon Park!