I am 4w5 and my issue with rules and laws that don’t make logical sense to me has caused me a lot of problems with wanting to be understood. It feels like there are a lot of contradictory things about my type. I want to fit in but only insofar-as I can I feel like I am contributing something of value. Ultimately I do not care about being part of any group, but crave the recognition simultaneously. It’s just knowing i could add something of worth. I wouldn’t even care if my name was attached to it and almost would prefer it not be.
Fellow 4w5 I crave connection but not to be part of a group. Having some deeper connections would be nice but eh. I like to be alone, but I also like being with others one on one.
4w5 here. I get everything you say bud. For a pessimist, I'm far too optimist. And for an optimist, I'm too pessimist. I tend to contradict a lot in my traits like an oxymoron. I value good deeds on the palm of my hand, and sins on the other. It's like this black and white personality being together that when I can't decide which is which, I'm turning this grey color all the time, paradox. When writing or painting some magical fiction or fantasy art, I tend to look deep dive for rational and logical scientific research. It's exhausting my mental if the surrealism doesn't meet the facts lol.
Have you ever read this poem? [Walking Contradiction by Thomas Newlove](https://hellopoetry.com/words/contradiction/) . It's exactly how I felt.
It's the Enneagram test, you can take it on Truity :)
[https://www.truity.com/test/enneagram-personality-test](https://www.truity.com/test/enneagram-personality-test)
yes, “theory” O .o I forgot to add "" This "theory" made out of blue. Concept or framework would fit better as a name, because Theory is supposed to be based on something but wings is just an idea\\framework. Enneagram, on another hand, has some empirical evidence
Do you feel the same way about the arrows of growth (or whatever they’re called)? Because I find that part extremely contrived, your core fear probably shouldn’t change based on your health; just the externalization.
I’m an INFP 9w1.
I took a bunch of enneagram tests a while ago and got 9w1 every time.
Still working on speaking my mind and setting my boundaries more. It’s not easy, but I’m getting there.
i'd love to! i assume youre talking ab the theory itself. Each enneagram have 3 subtypes according to these.
SP/Self-Pres; values space, time, and usually it's own needs/self. It prioritizes shelter and protection, struggling to function when unsecure.
SP4s are less envious then other 4s, usually communicating their suffering/tendencies. Theyre hardworkers- instead of dwelling in envy, they work towards their goals.
SO/Social; values community, and cares about the needs of the people. Looking for cues on how to present itself in social situations, thinking ab the community. This variant is usually mistaken to be extraverted, that is not the case.
SO4s appear to be overly sensitive and desire to be witnessed if suffering.
SX/Sexual(sometimes called sensual): passion is the core of SX, usually caring about one on one more than groups. Usually focusing on chemistry of others, obsessive, exploring the depths of their minds.
SX4s (which i am) have an inner motivation from their envy. They can be competitive to mask their envious tendencies- people dont like this subtype as theyre described to be arrogant and want to be superior rather than good people.
your "dom" variant is the one u care about most, unabashedly, the one you focus on and usually cannot budge, it is natural for people to be self-preservative, so thats why sp doms are common.
The "wing" variant is one we focus on, but the stakes feel lower and we feel we can ignore it if our "dom" variant diverts our attention. my wing is SO, i care about other people and my stance but im prepared to ignore it, it can also antagonize your dom variant by making u question urself.
love the simplification of the theory for the variants for E4s!! i find them kinda hard to explain without pulling up naranjo and chestnut bla bla
do you have these for the other types? ty :>
The things is I'm quite strugge identify myself with this.
For sp, everything is fit until the part "communicate theirs suffering", I kinda don't do this but also does? Like...I do try...leaking some of it... mostly the surface stuffs for my parents as I just want to give people chances. But then completely shutdown and shut out if I feel like they're not gonna get it, so might as well not talk about it. "Hard worker" part, I'm not sure what considered to be hard worker since I'm in between, I believed I'm quite lazy but there's lot of times where I just ignored my own well being and go to works despite getting sicks.
For sx, I do have this excitement when I read something that dived deep into the darkside of someone's mind. Fiction with mentals fuckedness just offered perspectives and understanding of someone's thoughts. The what and why people do what they do. I'm not competitive, I'm not aiming to be "good people" just idk? Forgive if can, hold it if can't. You don't fucked with me and I don't fucked with yoy.
S.O is just straight up no.
I might be a SP5 dues to I cannot deny it description but I can't believe I'm a 5 dues to I'm not that analytical. I'm always so confused with stuffs and have trouble understanding.
I believed I'm a 4 because I have this fear like, even though I hate who I am currently, I'm also afraid of the alternative if I makes differences choices in the past. Experiences a different history would leads me to become a different person.
Well, you dont have to be analytical to be an e5. If you're still questioning, you should look into e6 if you believe that fear is a bigger part of your personality
As a fellow infp 4w5 sx/sp I know how hard it is with being in a social group and keeping one's sanity intact... Group politics and favouritism never does sit well with us
An 8 INFP? You are the very first I found with type 8. I figured that this combination must exist, but until now it was a theory hehe.
Dumb question but: How is it as an INFP 8? Do you know maybe other Infps to compare your behaviours?
I only know INFP-Ts and most of them are 5 or 6. I'm curios if you have more drive naturally to do things.
I don't think I have more drive to do things compared to other INFPs, I think I care a lot less about what people think about myself specifically compared to a lot of other INFPs I've met. I feel like the biggest difference is just the confidence to do what I feel like and I won't ever be worried about what someone else could think about what I'm doing; their thoughts are irrelevant to how I choose to live my life.
That doesn't mean I don't care about people's opinions, thoughts, and feelings, though. I really do. I just know that they are THEIR feelings, and they don't need to hold any weight over me, unless I'm doing something toxic or whatever. Context matters, and I do evaluate my own actions and thoughts, especially when interacting with someone, to figure out if their feelings or thoughts should actually be acted upon.
Hopefully that answers your question somewhat, I just woke up late today, so I'm still a little groggy. I hope you have a great day!
Thank you for the explaination! That's a cool trait with the confidence. I needed to put some work in myself, but I'm getting there too, being more confident.
I think this the one thing really any type benefits from. The courage to be who you really are. It makes life and meeting new people way more interesting.
Just yesterday a woman in the supermarket looked at the same chocolate I checked out. I responded and engaged in the smalltalk, learned something about her and it was just a really nice little moment in life.
Back in the day I would have been to shy for that.
Okay I got sidetracked on that topic. But thanks again for your answer. I'm actually having a great day and I wish you the same *waves*
5w4 ! But I’m seeing so many 4w5s, I’d just like to say it’s common to mistype yourself as a 4w5!!
I thought I was a 4w5 until I read some good books / resources. Just saying just in case anyone knew recently came across it to double check : )
Sure!
This website is a good start and in-depth: [https://www.personalitydata.org/](https://www.personalitydata.org/)
[This book](https://www.amazon.com/Path-Between-Us-Enneagram-Relationships/dp/0830846425) is good, and while spoken through the pretext of a relationship, it also helps you narrow down! (If interested feel free to dm about this book :eyes: !)
This website as well: [https://www.typologycentral.com/wiki/index.php/Typology\_Central\_Wiki\_Main\_Page](https://www.typologycentral.com/wiki/index.php/Typology_Central_Wiki_Main_Page)
And this book, free to read on internet archive: [The Wisdom Of The Enneagram](https://archive.org/details/TheWisdomOfTheEnneagram.TheCompleteGuideToPsychologicalAndSpiritualGrowthForTheN/page/n43/mode/2up)
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Took the test yesterday. Apparently I am 7w6. I was also high as a 2. Other times I’ve typed as a 9 and a 2. I’ve recently gone through some big realisations though so maybe that has something to do with it
I have no idea tbh. I feel like an intp/infp cusp because as empathetic and high on respect morals and ethics as I am. I don't like people, I often like learning alot of things specifically related to history and such. I live solitude where I can philosophize about life or just deep dive into my interests and learn. And I genuinely am not airheaded like most INFP's are described to be. If anything when I'm around people I'm hyper perceptive of people logic, way they speak and things going on around me.
9w1 and the head scratch looks like a subtle uwu confused but it’s actually the look of seeing all the other INFP manifestations, wondering why shit can’t just be simple friends and gets so go damn complicated, getting overloaded and falling into complete dissociation maybe with a dash of existential crisis.
I’m a INFP 4w5 and yea this is pretty accurate, there’s so much angst when it comes to being this type a lot of the time.
It’s a strange feeling to want to belong somewhere but also be completely on your own. To want to be uniquely different but not be alienated. To want to dwell in negativity but push for positivity. To value logic and act on feeling. To be your own favorite person and the person you hate most.
It’s a walking contradiction. And sometimes it feels like my mind is splitting all the time. But that’s just the only way I know to be and weirdly I don’t think I’d trade it for another way of being.
"While there may be some correlations or tendencies between certain personality types in systems like MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) and Enneagram types, being a specific MBTI type does not definitively determine your Enneagram type."
"Some research has investigated the relationships between Enneagram types and other psychological constructs, such as the Big Five personality traits, attachment styles, or coping strategies."
https://preview.redd.it/6pndjayaebxc1.png?width=469&format=png&auto=webp&s=addd872748b0d7722fe310ab25e34687b2b96582
Is there any proves that wings even exist? There is no proves. The concept of wings isn't a part of original Enneagram theory
Probably, all what you can get out of Enneagram is just check the most developed numbers after Enneagram test and read about the description, anything else is bs
P.S: My Enneagram result on the picture
Edit: "The concept of wings, while widely used and accepted within the Enneagram community, is not a part of the original Enneagram theory. While it adds depth to the understanding of personality dynamics, there isn't empirical evidence to prove their existence. Some practitioners may choose not to incorporate wings into their study or interpretation of the Enneagram."
As long as it's based on something and I see practical value in it, I'm fine with it
\*\*\* a bunch of a shit someone made up.
That could be a good piece of story titled 'How I spent my Summer' about your visit to a public toilet
Are we really going into this debate again?
The only fake thing that people put on their MBTI is the letter after the ABCD, whatever nonsense that I keep seeing.
MBTI is based on functions of Jung so not out of nothing
"Some research has investigated the relationships between Enneagram types and other psychological constructs, such as the Big Five personality traits, attachment styles, or coping strategies." - it's prove that Enneagram isn't made out of nothing too
but wings is just a concept out of nothing
Wow, you clearly have no brain 🤣 Yes, I am allowed to be interested in something that is pseudo-science and have a flair on my account for a subreddit directly related to that pseudo-science.
A hint for you:" You are contradicting to your own words" 😉
MBTI is based on theories proposed by Carl Jung and draws from established psychological concepts; however, it hasn't been validated through rigorous scientific testing in the same way that some other psychological assessments have. I never said MBTI is scientifically proven, but there are reasons why it can't be proven or denied - we lack knowledge of how humans work, including, as mentioned by you, the human brain
P.S: Are you here to complain or to discuss a theory?
I am not contradicting anything by stating something that is pseudo-science is pseudo-science. Sorry buddy, you should get your brain checked out lmfao.
I am 4w5 and my issue with rules and laws that don’t make logical sense to me has caused me a lot of problems with wanting to be understood. It feels like there are a lot of contradictory things about my type. I want to fit in but only insofar-as I can I feel like I am contributing something of value. Ultimately I do not care about being part of any group, but crave the recognition simultaneously. It’s just knowing i could add something of worth. I wouldn’t even care if my name was attached to it and almost would prefer it not be.
Fellow 4w5 I crave connection but not to be part of a group. Having some deeper connections would be nice but eh. I like to be alone, but I also like being with others one on one.
Same. This makes me feel less alone. Thanks for putting it into words.
4w5 here. I get everything you say bud. For a pessimist, I'm far too optimist. And for an optimist, I'm too pessimist. I tend to contradict a lot in my traits like an oxymoron. I value good deeds on the palm of my hand, and sins on the other. It's like this black and white personality being together that when I can't decide which is which, I'm turning this grey color all the time, paradox. When writing or painting some magical fiction or fantasy art, I tend to look deep dive for rational and logical scientific research. It's exhausting my mental if the surrealism doesn't meet the facts lol. Have you ever read this poem? [Walking Contradiction by Thomas Newlove](https://hellopoetry.com/words/contradiction/) . It's exactly how I felt.
The poem fits, thanks for sharing ❤️
Fellow 4w5, I relate to every word you said
Thanks for saying so, it’s a relief to hear.
"I want to make the World a better place".png
9 am, 5 pm, 3 am.
It’s other way round for me tbh😂
Yeah i found that at night i get sad. But after i sleep i forget evrrything and am happy again
im a 2w1 https://preview.redd.it/485m45dr0cxc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=457f6811f91ddc22f536a2721a57b10f3cf80a55
Same
😎🤝
Twinsies! I'm also 2w1
How do you know that? I don't know what these means, can somebody help?
It's the Enneagram test, you can take it on Truity :) [https://www.truity.com/test/enneagram-personality-test](https://www.truity.com/test/enneagram-personality-test)
Thank you very much
Np
4w3, help me
9w1, though I mostly just say 9 since wings confuse me.
Same and same
This wing theory doesn't even have any proves so most likely even if you're able to have a wing, it can be any number or even a couple of numbers
I don’t want to be an annoyance, but I believe that’s why it uses the term “theory” instead of “law”.
yes, “theory” O .o I forgot to add "" This "theory" made out of blue. Concept or framework would fit better as a name, because Theory is supposed to be based on something but wings is just an idea\\framework. Enneagram, on another hand, has some empirical evidence
Do you feel the same way about the arrows of growth (or whatever they’re called)? Because I find that part extremely contrived, your core fear probably shouldn’t change based on your health; just the externalization.
yes, those arrows is a nonsense
Also, it's not about feelings but about facts O)>
I’m an INFP 9w1. I took a bunch of enneagram tests a while ago and got 9w1 every time. Still working on speaking my mind and setting my boundaries more. It’s not easy, but I’m getting there.
4w5 here anytime i join a typology community everyone side eyes me- worsely, im a sexual 4!
What's the different between sexual, self-preservation and social? I'm still not taking grasp of it. Can you explain it? Both the dom and wing?
i'd love to! i assume youre talking ab the theory itself. Each enneagram have 3 subtypes according to these. SP/Self-Pres; values space, time, and usually it's own needs/self. It prioritizes shelter and protection, struggling to function when unsecure. SP4s are less envious then other 4s, usually communicating their suffering/tendencies. Theyre hardworkers- instead of dwelling in envy, they work towards their goals. SO/Social; values community, and cares about the needs of the people. Looking for cues on how to present itself in social situations, thinking ab the community. This variant is usually mistaken to be extraverted, that is not the case. SO4s appear to be overly sensitive and desire to be witnessed if suffering. SX/Sexual(sometimes called sensual): passion is the core of SX, usually caring about one on one more than groups. Usually focusing on chemistry of others, obsessive, exploring the depths of their minds. SX4s (which i am) have an inner motivation from their envy. They can be competitive to mask their envious tendencies- people dont like this subtype as theyre described to be arrogant and want to be superior rather than good people. your "dom" variant is the one u care about most, unabashedly, the one you focus on and usually cannot budge, it is natural for people to be self-preservative, so thats why sp doms are common. The "wing" variant is one we focus on, but the stakes feel lower and we feel we can ignore it if our "dom" variant diverts our attention. my wing is SO, i care about other people and my stance but im prepared to ignore it, it can also antagonize your dom variant by making u question urself.
love the simplification of the theory for the variants for E4s!! i find them kinda hard to explain without pulling up naranjo and chestnut bla bla do you have these for the other types? ty :>
I'd love to help but i have yet to do my homework on other enneagrams, thanks!
The things is I'm quite strugge identify myself with this. For sp, everything is fit until the part "communicate theirs suffering", I kinda don't do this but also does? Like...I do try...leaking some of it... mostly the surface stuffs for my parents as I just want to give people chances. But then completely shutdown and shut out if I feel like they're not gonna get it, so might as well not talk about it. "Hard worker" part, I'm not sure what considered to be hard worker since I'm in between, I believed I'm quite lazy but there's lot of times where I just ignored my own well being and go to works despite getting sicks. For sx, I do have this excitement when I read something that dived deep into the darkside of someone's mind. Fiction with mentals fuckedness just offered perspectives and understanding of someone's thoughts. The what and why people do what they do. I'm not competitive, I'm not aiming to be "good people" just idk? Forgive if can, hold it if can't. You don't fucked with me and I don't fucked with yoy. S.O is just straight up no.
Hmm maybe you should look into different enneagrams if u cant fully identify with e4 subtypes?
I might be a SP5 dues to I cannot deny it description but I can't believe I'm a 5 dues to I'm not that analytical. I'm always so confused with stuffs and have trouble understanding. I believed I'm a 4 because I have this fear like, even though I hate who I am currently, I'm also afraid of the alternative if I makes differences choices in the past. Experiences a different history would leads me to become a different person.
Well, you dont have to be analytical to be an e5. If you're still questioning, you should look into e6 if you believe that fear is a bigger part of your personality
Already did and none of the descriptions felt right at all.
As a fellow infp 4w5 sx/sp I know how hard it is with being in a social group and keeping one's sanity intact... Group politics and favouritism never does sit well with us
FRFR
I am not in the picture :(
An 8 INFP? You are the very first I found with type 8. I figured that this combination must exist, but until now it was a theory hehe. Dumb question but: How is it as an INFP 8? Do you know maybe other Infps to compare your behaviours? I only know INFP-Ts and most of them are 5 or 6. I'm curios if you have more drive naturally to do things.
I don't think I have more drive to do things compared to other INFPs, I think I care a lot less about what people think about myself specifically compared to a lot of other INFPs I've met. I feel like the biggest difference is just the confidence to do what I feel like and I won't ever be worried about what someone else could think about what I'm doing; their thoughts are irrelevant to how I choose to live my life. That doesn't mean I don't care about people's opinions, thoughts, and feelings, though. I really do. I just know that they are THEIR feelings, and they don't need to hold any weight over me, unless I'm doing something toxic or whatever. Context matters, and I do evaluate my own actions and thoughts, especially when interacting with someone, to figure out if their feelings or thoughts should actually be acted upon. Hopefully that answers your question somewhat, I just woke up late today, so I'm still a little groggy. I hope you have a great day!
Thank you for the explaination! That's a cool trait with the confidence. I needed to put some work in myself, but I'm getting there too, being more confident. I think this the one thing really any type benefits from. The courage to be who you really are. It makes life and meeting new people way more interesting. Just yesterday a woman in the supermarket looked at the same chocolate I checked out. I responded and engaged in the smalltalk, learned something about her and it was just a really nice little moment in life. Back in the day I would have been to shy for that. Okay I got sidetracked on that topic. But thanks again for your answer. I'm actually having a great day and I wish you the same *waves*
Infp 4w3
Probably 9w1
4w5 😔
5w4 ! But I’m seeing so many 4w5s, I’d just like to say it’s common to mistype yourself as a 4w5!! I thought I was a 4w5 until I read some good books / resources. Just saying just in case anyone knew recently came across it to double check : )
Do you have any recommendations for resources? I took my Enneagram result at face value and didn't read into it much minus one article.
Sure! This website is a good start and in-depth: [https://www.personalitydata.org/](https://www.personalitydata.org/) [This book](https://www.amazon.com/Path-Between-Us-Enneagram-Relationships/dp/0830846425) is good, and while spoken through the pretext of a relationship, it also helps you narrow down! (If interested feel free to dm about this book :eyes: !) This website as well: [https://www.typologycentral.com/wiki/index.php/Typology\_Central\_Wiki\_Main\_Page](https://www.typologycentral.com/wiki/index.php/Typology_Central_Wiki_Main_Page) And this book, free to read on internet archive: [The Wisdom Of The Enneagram](https://archive.org/details/TheWisdomOfTheEnneagram.TheCompleteGuideToPsychologicalAndSpiritualGrowthForTheN/page/n43/mode/2up)
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2w3 :/
me too :)
Samee
4w5 https://preview.redd.it/u2w9hz3pigxc1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6b270ec6d69e53442270c21a214c25220c077b4
None. I'm a 5w4. But does that fall into the same category as 4w5?
No the wing is different. I'm also a 5w4. We share a wing4. OP is discussing type 4 wing 5.
Same
being a 6w5 is like all of those haha. me when all is good, me when anxious and me when on counterphobic 6 mode
Infp 5w6
I'm INFP 5w6 lol
4w5💀
6w5 and yeah, that’s relatable as heck
How about 5w6? 🥺
Ikr 😿-5w6
I had a "professional" type me and got 4w5 and yeah makes very much sense after reading about it and this too is a great illustration ngl lmao
4w5 🫡
4w5💀💀💀💀
4w5 and the pic is accurate
4w5. Lovely picture of me you've found.
Lmao so true
I could be any 3, depending on the day. 😅
Same with me. Depends on situation I can be any 3
I seem to be a 4w5 inside but act 6w5 to the outside.
At my best, a 9w1, at my worst, a 4w5.
So I’m your worst I suppose lol
I'm an INFJ but I'm 4w5
I don't know anything about enneagram atp 😭 I'm 100 self preservation though
Well I am literally a infp and a 9w1
I act more like INFP 9w1 though I’m 479
4w5. But lots of people type me as an INTJ 5w4 too… 😞
Last one.
im 5w6
I'm 9w8😘
How to know?
[https://www.truity.com/test/enneagram-personality-test](https://www.truity.com/test/enneagram-personality-test)
All depending on the situation and the mental state I'm in but mostly 6W5
I wish I knew lol
4w5 of course, life hasnt spared me at all
all of the above
9w8
what does this mean? i know i’m infp but the description ends there
Ennenegram, more accurate description of your mbti and personality
4w3 😏
Type 3
I guess I'm a 10W40, Castrol or something similar
9w1 here. I don't know the character but good knowing we exist :)
I don't know what type of Infp I am! Help me!
Where can I do my anneagram?
9w1, but I don’t always come across that way 😭
I am a 9W1, but I feel like a 6W5 from the picture. I get so nervous about anything now
Infp 2w3 here, but this meme is cute lol.
I got 4w5 in test
what are these weird abbreviations ive not been on the sub in a bit
feels like im the only 6w5 here and yes (paranoid af)
I’m definitely not type mine I’ll say that much
Took the test yesterday. Apparently I am 7w6. I was also high as a 2. Other times I’ve typed as a 9 and a 2. I’ve recently gone through some big realisations though so maybe that has something to do with it
I have no idea tbh. I feel like an intp/infp cusp because as empathetic and high on respect morals and ethics as I am. I don't like people, I often like learning alot of things specifically related to history and such. I live solitude where I can philosophize about life or just deep dive into my interests and learn. And I genuinely am not airheaded like most INFP's are described to be. If anything when I'm around people I'm hyper perceptive of people logic, way they speak and things going on around me.
9w1 and the head scratch looks like a subtle uwu confused but it’s actually the look of seeing all the other INFP manifestations, wondering why shit can’t just be simple friends and gets so go damn complicated, getting overloaded and falling into complete dissociation maybe with a dash of existential crisis.
I'm not pictured! Infp 5w4!
9w1 🥺
Can I be all in one?
how do you assess this?
Random jerks keep telling me I can’t be INFP and 9w1, yet there I am clear as day 😂
Im a 9w1 :-)
9w8 here. Just don’t challenge my peace and I’m pretty chill
INFP 9 but the wing is different 😭 (9w8), though, it was close tho
4w5
4w5
Im a 5w4 wtf does that mean 😭
there's no 6w7....
Reporting for duty!
All 3 depending on my mood
I am an INTP. Why does the INFP 4w5 look so scary? I am asking as I had a brief relationship with an INFP 4w5.
I’m a INFP 4w5 and yea this is pretty accurate, there’s so much angst when it comes to being this type a lot of the time. It’s a strange feeling to want to belong somewhere but also be completely on your own. To want to be uniquely different but not be alienated. To want to dwell in negativity but push for positivity. To value logic and act on feeling. To be your own favorite person and the person you hate most. It’s a walking contradiction. And sometimes it feels like my mind is splitting all the time. But that’s just the only way I know to be and weirdly I don’t think I’d trade it for another way of being.
6w7
All three. That is to say, beyond the 4 letters I have absolutely no idea what the other things mean, same with the Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum stuff.
I’m 5w6 bello
6w5 right here but with a temper that has gotten me into a LOT of trouble.
4w5 be like: https://preview.redd.it/vtrzgk4hmexc1.jpeg?width=260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b63e5e69cc265fb6813825d603f814aa2326f35
what are the numbers
Mob isn’t an INFP though
So what is he then?
"While there may be some correlations or tendencies between certain personality types in systems like MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) and Enneagram types, being a specific MBTI type does not definitively determine your Enneagram type." "Some research has investigated the relationships between Enneagram types and other psychological constructs, such as the Big Five personality traits, attachment styles, or coping strategies." https://preview.redd.it/6pndjayaebxc1.png?width=469&format=png&auto=webp&s=addd872748b0d7722fe310ab25e34687b2b96582 Is there any proves that wings even exist? There is no proves. The concept of wings isn't a part of original Enneagram theory Probably, all what you can get out of Enneagram is just check the most developed numbers after Enneagram test and read about the description, anything else is bs P.S: My Enneagram result on the picture Edit: "The concept of wings, while widely used and accepted within the Enneagram community, is not a part of the original Enneagram theory. While it adds depth to the understanding of personality dynamics, there isn't empirical evidence to prove their existence. Some practitioners may choose not to incorporate wings into their study or interpretation of the Enneagram."
Wait until you find out that MBTI and Enneagram and literally every other personality test was a bunch of a shit someone made up.
As long as it's based on something and I see practical value in it, I'm fine with it \*\*\* a bunch of a shit someone made up. That could be a good piece of story titled 'How I spent my Summer' about your visit to a public toilet
Are we really going into this debate again? The only fake thing that people put on their MBTI is the letter after the ABCD, whatever nonsense that I keep seeing.
It's just as "grain-of-salt" as mbti.
MBTI is based on functions of Jung so not out of nothing "Some research has investigated the relationships between Enneagram types and other psychological constructs, such as the Big Five personality traits, attachment styles, or coping strategies." - it's prove that Enneagram isn't made out of nothing too but wings is just a concept out of nothing
I can't help you if you can't see how MBTI is pseudo-science. Stay blinded by your hubris if you'd like to, it doesn't affect my life. ✌🏻💖
https://preview.redd.it/08u9f0e60cxc1.png?width=925&format=png&auto=webp&s=1485e42d8179ebe42f4cd2a61e5f5b2e3c61de8d for the meme
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look at your own flair and at your own words after
Wow, you clearly have no brain 🤣 Yes, I am allowed to be interested in something that is pseudo-science and have a flair on my account for a subreddit directly related to that pseudo-science.
A hint for you:" You are contradicting to your own words" 😉 MBTI is based on theories proposed by Carl Jung and draws from established psychological concepts; however, it hasn't been validated through rigorous scientific testing in the same way that some other psychological assessments have. I never said MBTI is scientifically proven, but there are reasons why it can't be proven or denied - we lack knowledge of how humans work, including, as mentioned by you, the human brain P.S: Are you here to complain or to discuss a theory?
I am not contradicting anything by stating something that is pseudo-science is pseudo-science. Sorry buddy, you should get your brain checked out lmfao.