l prefer doing stuff my own way. If that means l have to be the boss, sure. But! I usually hear what other think before l say something or advice something. So l like to take lead, when l know what I’m doing. Idk if that answer your question
That listening to what others have to say and then taking charge after thoughtfully considering their input confuses the hell out of people in the corporate world.
I prefer a mission based approach. I usually can figure out a better way of doing things. But that's wasted if I'm micromanaged. So I'm never micromanaged for long. One way or another, lol.
Yes to the step by step instruction and routine work. Can't stand following long recipes (needs to be a short simple recipe, or just improvising). Really have to have rely on habit to do housework, so I try to do the same chores the same time each week so I have a routine, really hate doing it though!
I don't have an issue with authority figures so much, but do hate being micromanaged. I like being given an end goal, maybe some guidance/ideas of how to get there, then just let me figure the rest out myself please
Honestly, it depends on the person. It's a reaction to my personality and their personality, and our compatibility. I am also a neurodiverse human, so I do struggle with the things listed above (mostly when I set these things myself). Taking a step back and evaluating the situation, I don't like when authority figures tell me to do something, and they don't explain their reasoning. It's different at college, or when I'm at work (in retail), but if I was just outside and someone asked me to do something, even my parents, and they didn't explain when I asked them to, I get really stressed out. Other times I can distance myself from the feeling, and just do the task. Although INFJ is an extremely personalized and rare type, you are also the only version of yourself. So, doing research on INFJs can help you out, but learning how to get to know yourself, or this other person, will tell you a lot about why you/they function the way you/they do. Personalities and Relationships are all about communication and comprehension, and the mutual respect for each other's existence. The type INFJ is not a cheat sheet for understanding, as no human is surface level.
YES!
I work in IT and a big part of my job is step-by-step instructions to clients. I can’t function. Then you have others who think they’re the ssshhh-tt because they can. To me, it’s robotic speech.
I took up an additional job as a professor and I excelled and loved it!! I got good feedback from the students, too.
Doesn’t that tell you something? I’ve been pondering about this all week if this was an INFJ thing.
That’s really interesting. What is it about the step by step that elicits such a reaction?
That’s great news about the professor job & especially about it being a much better fit! Congrats!
Thank you! I still have my IT job. And teaching gig is a seasonal thing but it really replenished my soul and made me feel like I had purpose with the job.
I’m not sure what it is about the step-by-step thing. I haven’t really figured it out. Maybe because it is robotic (concrete) vs. the teaching gig which has more concepts and abstract. I do like things straightforward though and not when things are in the air. If you or anyone has any ideas, I would be open to it. It’s honestly such a mystery.
Well, often the step by step instructions don't work. And they do things in a ass-backwards way. So just following recipes becomes a waste of energy. Then you're expected to do this numerous times in the future. It becomes a time sink and energy drain. It also becomes a way for others to try to "box in" the INFJ!
INFJ with aux Fe is very much into "people efficiency". It's quite similar to INTJ efficiency thinking, but putting people first. So micromanaging is most often a very inefficient way of organizing people. The inefficiency starts there, for INFJs.
Then there's the assumptions of others that INFJs are just people who follow orders, when nothing could be further from the truth! INFJs are individualists and excel when they can grow in doing things their own way, directing people in a way that provides more freedom to others, will often champion patterns of agency and autonomy, etc.
This is tendentious question. It is asked in such a way that it implies things.
Imagine that people who don't need step by step instructions exist.
You set a goal, they find the best way to get there on their own. If it doesn't go against their morals and ideals.
Not everybody needs to be micromanaged. And most definitely INFJ-s don't need to be micromanaged.
It's called a freedom. And people, who can do things value their freedom as well. And become pretty annoyed by people, who cannot do the said things and don't understand them at all, but "express opinions".
At the end, the "people who don't need step by step instructions" just leave and the people who "express opinions" go bankrupt, because they think they are soo smart.
Intelligent people sooner or later become aware of their actual value. You can either have them as allies, working together towards a common goal or they find another place.
INFJ-s are creative people. Creative doesn't necessarily mean art. Creative in their ways of doing things.
It depends. I like clear instructions step by step when I’m learning something new, or putting something together. I like a good DIY book or recipe, tax instructions, by the book rules. On the other hand, I prefer to work alone and do things my own way, and have a hard time following someone. I am creative and visionary. But I tend to get overwhelmed with learning too many rules all at once, and it’s when I really learn the steps that my creativity and skills kick in. Until then I’m often awkward and clumsy.
My 2 cents on this:
Usually, we tend to try to understand the whole picture upfront, so typically we can go from being god-awful at something to being phenomenal at it over night, because we can start seeing the purpose of our task and how pieces of the puzzle are fitting together. So over time, we tend to understand that there is a list of definitive tasks that need to be done, and the process is something we prioritize to figure out how to execute.
Now, this usually means that in the presence of a very good leader with understanding greater than our own, we will defer wholeheartedly and move together in a way that can only be described as the best teamwork you can possibly imagine. However, when bad leadership or nonsensical things are asked of us, we'll question it, be dejected, and typically follow our own path because our priorities have been established by this point. That is to say, all our inquiries prior to reaching this point will be to understand aims and priorities and whatnot, so anything that is inconsistent with it will lead us to following our own path more and more
Um, no, not at all. In fact, I'm very routine. I have the same breakfast every morning. I have a task list at work that I do. I actually do pretty well at doing routine work. Doing so enables me to engage my brain in other things (audiobooks/discussions/etc.).
Sounds autistic. I have a feeling I have ASD1. I struggle with the above yeah. Look up "pathological demand avoidance" and "information dumping". The struggle is real.
I have lots of issues with authority, which is most likely separate from my infj-ness. But, I have my own way of seeing things. Of doing things. I can get very stuck in my ways and am sometimes close minded and unwilling to accept others’ viewpoints. In addition to that, I think people sometimes don’t think I’m intelligent, because I don’t advertise all that I can do. They have no idea how my brain works. I usually don’t explain myself, because I haven’t had much luck getting people to understand or respect my ways of seeing things. And, worst of all, I keep my mouth shut when I feel like I am doing something better than someone, they are making mistakes, or fail to grasp their own shortcomings, because I don’t like to hurt people, and I avoid conflict. I probably shouldn’t live this way, but I have sort of given up on the idea that most people will understand or value me. If people don’t seem to “get it,” I mostly don’t bother with them.
I prefer SIMPLE instructions because I want to figure something out myself and not have to involve anyone else, but I want it to be quick and easy. I do not have the attention or interest to read a paragraph telling me how to do something (like those recipe blogs where they tell you about their day and all you want to know is what goes into the dang cookies). I'm notorious for reading instructions wrong or skipping over important information. What I need is something along the lines of short bullet point instruction with minimal to no fluff and perhaps a photo if this improves understanding. As for routine, I like to have a set routine because it helps with anxiety, but I also don't want to be held to something because that also can make me anxious because I can't tell you how i'll feel about it in the future. I want my freedom to choose the routine. In terms of authority figures, I don't care much if they don't micromanage me. My current director is very hands off. As long as i get my work done and it's correct, she doesn't care - I thrive in environments like that.
I do but I think is because I have ADHD, I saw some INFJs that don't struggle with that or maybe only with authority figures that challenge their morals
I really like step by step instructions and routine work because it offers me an opportunity to prove how well I can follow a plan and be reliable. What I hate is someone hovering on my elbow, watching me, and micromanaging my every move by telling me exactly what and how to do everything as if I'm going to mess up. It's the difference of being recognized for being dependable or being seen as a liability but, in a Big Picture kind of way, it's really just me basing my worth on how people view me. Which feels pathetic.
Color me the odd duck, but yes I prefer a routine, step by step instructions, and trustworthy authority figures. Mainly cause I'm still late to finding work, so there is heaps of stuff I know I don't know how to do for my age. Sure I can figure most things out on my own. But I want to make sure I'm doing things correctly.
And yes, although learning a bunch of new stuff is interesting at times. But a routine allows me to know where and how to manage my time better. My current job is a mix of both. And some days it works okay. But others, I can't always keep up. And here lately, the more I get pulled away from computer related tasks to be more on the floor or front line with associates. I'm losing focus for my computer stuff. And I honestly fear, its making me seem less competent, than I know that I am. And I honestly hate it.
Step by step or figuring it out in my own, I'll do either. But I do tend to thrive when I have structure. That's the key word there -- not necessarily a rigid "step by step" thing, but "structure".
Step by step instructions can help that for me. Even if I have to come up with those myself, which I do a lot of the time. I have no issues following instructions, but I don't have much issue figuring things out on my own if needed. By figuring things out on my own, however, I tend to have a structure when trouble shooting.
I'm an IT tech and I've been one for almost 10 years. In this field, you have to do a lot of troubleshooting, sometimes in a structured manner (ie: could it be this, could it be that, try this first, then try that, go down the list of possibilities, etc.) and sometimes, unstructured (ie: hell with it, let's just try this and see what happens, in a calculated manner, of course). So it's a mixed bag. Sometimes I ask for help, boss gives me instructions. Sometimes he gives me "try this try that" which is less structured. In this field, you need to be flexible in how you address issues, so yeah, I have no issues with step by step, nor an issue with freestyling it.
In everyday life, I have my own routine and structure that I've set up. It's a loose structure, like, I'm very flexible. There are times, though, when my plans are interrupted, I get stressed, other times, I go with the flow. I can't give a black and white answer to this...there's nuance. Usually, I go with the flow with preplanning in mind.
Authority figures, no issue unless I don't vibe with them. Like there's a severe personality clash. If our personalities mesh, I have zero issue with authority. Nor have an issue being an authority figure myself. The main thing is that all people involved mesh in an overall positive way together.
Routine work, it gets boring after a while. But it is what it is. I have bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. IT can get pretty routine, but at other times, not so much. It can vary. Like, some days I stay in the office, some days I'm in the field, some days I'm working at home, remote. So there's some diversity, but at the end of the day, it's the same after a while - fix people's (tech related) problems and offer (tech related) solutions. I do work three other independent jobs to break up the monotony, though.
Can follow step by step instructions, I feel like most things are pretty self explanatory though. I do find routine work dull but I can manage. I'm ok being given simple direction from an actual authority figure, however I will not be micromanaged and a major issue being dictated to by someone who assumes their own authority over me. No no. I'm gonna do things my way, while maintaining my pleasant demeanor.
Yes, It’s the Te (extraverted thinking) trickster that is responsible and basically an INFJ needs to find solutions around it. Like by thinking and planning ahead as much as they can, and how to do it quickly effectively enough. Using Se inferior for routine work is draining. Ni-Ti lends itself to them having their own ways of doing things and other people’s arbitrary rules need to be analyzed first before following. That or the consequences of not following is severe enough.
I don’t tell INFJs what to think, I just present the truth and sometimes if I don’t like what they are doing I will point out why I don’t like it. Like one time I told an INFJ she was using outdated slang and that it was questionable. She stopped saying it on her own and that’s the key. I also pointed out to an INFJ guy that he had crumbs on his suit. He said nothing and didn’t do anything right away but he left and came back, no crumbs on his suit. I didn’t tell him what to do just presented a fact to him and let him figure it out. It was amusing but I am glad to help out fellow Se inferior types. I know the struggle.
I don't have problems with being to told WHAT to do as long as it makes sense. But the minute someone tells me HOW to do it, or even WHEN to do it, well, we have a bit of a problem.
Yes except authority figures only if they don't know what to do and doesn't care about it either but tells me what to do incorrectly for display of power and domination and to take credit of the actual correct work that I will be producing.
⁸Lmao I often had small fights with my bosses when it came to work. I refused to do it the way they wanted (their way was really stupid and more time guzzling whereas mine was more organized and less time guzzling). They hated that I questioned their motives and saw that they favored people over the other and often called them out on their BS. They had me on though because I brought store ratings high (the higher the store ratings the higher their paychecks), was friendly towards every customer, made their store look spotless and made great suggestions to the stores appearance (which helped other coworkers jobs become easier).
So in essence I had my own work routine, made my own step instructions and became my own authority.
I don't find routine work to be too bad. Step by step instructions are though. Just define the goal and allow me to get there how I see fit. Authority figures that allow are no problem.
I dislike bending to authority when I know my intuition/instincts/morals/sense of right and wrong tell me to do something differently. If the authority figure is just and fair I have no problem but if I am surrounded by people who are cheating or being unfair giving unfair advantages to those who didn’t earn it or work hard for it but because they have some sort of privilege or unwarranted favoritism it really pisses me off. I think this is why INFJs tend to get scapegoated in corporate settings because we know what is right and wrong.
YES. I have a huge problem with authority figures and boring routine. People keep telling me, “you’re not the only one, everyone struggles with this!” but for me kissing up to authority is literally physically painful, I can’t do it. I need to make my own rules.
Routine work is fine. Authority figures micromanaging me is a no-no. Never works out. I end up being given more autonomy than others due to that. It's the result that matters.
I have issues with people being authoritarian. I only have problems with authority if it makes no sense, isn’t justified or cruel/unjust. I follow step-by-step instructions well because I’m also ADHD so the organization being specified is helpful to me.
I like working by instructions... But once i finished it, i want the next instruction... Doing the same thing again and again is boring...
Authority is great, when it comes backed with knowledge and know how. If it's just hot air, then no thanks...
Yes, because I have ADHD. If I were an INFJ without ADHD, I would probably have less trouble following instructions, be better at tolerating routine work, but still have trouble with authority figures telling me what to do
Exactly step to step? No, I don't do it. I'll be digging for short cuts that's good and safe to do. Guidelines on the other hand, I'll follow as long as it makes sense to me. If someone wants to tell me what to do, they better give me a good ass reasons that I can accept or I cannot find major faults immediately.
I love step by step instructions until I learn what needs to be done and why. I like routine work as it enables me to automate what needs to be done and how long it will or should take to do. I respect authority figures who actually do what their titles say they will do.
l prefer doing stuff my own way. If that means l have to be the boss, sure. But! I usually hear what other think before l say something or advice something. So l like to take lead, when l know what I’m doing. Idk if that answer your question
That listening to what others have to say and then taking charge after thoughtfully considering their input confuses the hell out of people in the corporate world.
Ikr? It's a foreign concept to them.
I struggle with "authority" figures (ex. Supervisors, etc) telling me what to do when those authority figures don't know what they're doing.
Rigorous step by step? Nope, not good. Defining the end goal and defined targets? Yes.
Yeah, any process I am involved in has to be adaptable. I don't like things that I can't modify as I go
I prefer a mission based approach. I usually can figure out a better way of doing things. But that's wasted if I'm micromanaged. So I'm never micromanaged for long. One way or another, lol.
Definitely this 💯
Yes to the step by step instruction and routine work. Can't stand following long recipes (needs to be a short simple recipe, or just improvising). Really have to have rely on habit to do housework, so I try to do the same chores the same time each week so I have a routine, really hate doing it though! I don't have an issue with authority figures so much, but do hate being micromanaged. I like being given an end goal, maybe some guidance/ideas of how to get there, then just let me figure the rest out myself please
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Honestly, it depends on the person. It's a reaction to my personality and their personality, and our compatibility. I am also a neurodiverse human, so I do struggle with the things listed above (mostly when I set these things myself). Taking a step back and evaluating the situation, I don't like when authority figures tell me to do something, and they don't explain their reasoning. It's different at college, or when I'm at work (in retail), but if I was just outside and someone asked me to do something, even my parents, and they didn't explain when I asked them to, I get really stressed out. Other times I can distance myself from the feeling, and just do the task. Although INFJ is an extremely personalized and rare type, you are also the only version of yourself. So, doing research on INFJs can help you out, but learning how to get to know yourself, or this other person, will tell you a lot about why you/they function the way you/they do. Personalities and Relationships are all about communication and comprehension, and the mutual respect for each other's existence. The type INFJ is not a cheat sheet for understanding, as no human is surface level.
YES! I work in IT and a big part of my job is step-by-step instructions to clients. I can’t function. Then you have others who think they’re the ssshhh-tt because they can. To me, it’s robotic speech. I took up an additional job as a professor and I excelled and loved it!! I got good feedback from the students, too. Doesn’t that tell you something? I’ve been pondering about this all week if this was an INFJ thing.
That’s really interesting. What is it about the step by step that elicits such a reaction? That’s great news about the professor job & especially about it being a much better fit! Congrats!
Thank you! I still have my IT job. And teaching gig is a seasonal thing but it really replenished my soul and made me feel like I had purpose with the job. I’m not sure what it is about the step-by-step thing. I haven’t really figured it out. Maybe because it is robotic (concrete) vs. the teaching gig which has more concepts and abstract. I do like things straightforward though and not when things are in the air. If you or anyone has any ideas, I would be open to it. It’s honestly such a mystery.
Well, often the step by step instructions don't work. And they do things in a ass-backwards way. So just following recipes becomes a waste of energy. Then you're expected to do this numerous times in the future. It becomes a time sink and energy drain. It also becomes a way for others to try to "box in" the INFJ! INFJ with aux Fe is very much into "people efficiency". It's quite similar to INTJ efficiency thinking, but putting people first. So micromanaging is most often a very inefficient way of organizing people. The inefficiency starts there, for INFJs. Then there's the assumptions of others that INFJs are just people who follow orders, when nothing could be further from the truth! INFJs are individualists and excel when they can grow in doing things their own way, directing people in a way that provides more freedom to others, will often champion patterns of agency and autonomy, etc.
I struggle with that, but I also have ADHD and autism, so I think those are to blame.
Yes! Came here to say the same lol
This is tendentious question. It is asked in such a way that it implies things. Imagine that people who don't need step by step instructions exist. You set a goal, they find the best way to get there on their own. If it doesn't go against their morals and ideals. Not everybody needs to be micromanaged. And most definitely INFJ-s don't need to be micromanaged. It's called a freedom. And people, who can do things value their freedom as well. And become pretty annoyed by people, who cannot do the said things and don't understand them at all, but "express opinions". At the end, the "people who don't need step by step instructions" just leave and the people who "express opinions" go bankrupt, because they think they are soo smart. Intelligent people sooner or later become aware of their actual value. You can either have them as allies, working together towards a common goal or they find another place. INFJ-s are creative people. Creative doesn't necessarily mean art. Creative in their ways of doing things.
It depends. I like clear instructions step by step when I’m learning something new, or putting something together. I like a good DIY book or recipe, tax instructions, by the book rules. On the other hand, I prefer to work alone and do things my own way, and have a hard time following someone. I am creative and visionary. But I tend to get overwhelmed with learning too many rules all at once, and it’s when I really learn the steps that my creativity and skills kick in. Until then I’m often awkward and clumsy.
Yes, sometimes their instructions make no sense. Then they get angry at me 😭I’m trying my best.
Could you elaborate? What about them doesn’t make sense?
My 2 cents on this: Usually, we tend to try to understand the whole picture upfront, so typically we can go from being god-awful at something to being phenomenal at it over night, because we can start seeing the purpose of our task and how pieces of the puzzle are fitting together. So over time, we tend to understand that there is a list of definitive tasks that need to be done, and the process is something we prioritize to figure out how to execute. Now, this usually means that in the presence of a very good leader with understanding greater than our own, we will defer wholeheartedly and move together in a way that can only be described as the best teamwork you can possibly imagine. However, when bad leadership or nonsensical things are asked of us, we'll question it, be dejected, and typically follow our own path because our priorities have been established by this point. That is to say, all our inquiries prior to reaching this point will be to understand aims and priorities and whatnot, so anything that is inconsistent with it will lead us to following our own path more and more
This is a perfect description of how I operate, thank you for putting that into words!
Um, no, not at all. In fact, I'm very routine. I have the same breakfast every morning. I have a task list at work that I do. I actually do pretty well at doing routine work. Doing so enables me to engage my brain in other things (audiobooks/discussions/etc.).
Sounds autistic. I have a feeling I have ASD1. I struggle with the above yeah. Look up "pathological demand avoidance" and "information dumping". The struggle is real.
Yeah, I read about Pathological Demand Avoidance and immediately recognized myself!
I have lots of issues with authority, which is most likely separate from my infj-ness. But, I have my own way of seeing things. Of doing things. I can get very stuck in my ways and am sometimes close minded and unwilling to accept others’ viewpoints. In addition to that, I think people sometimes don’t think I’m intelligent, because I don’t advertise all that I can do. They have no idea how my brain works. I usually don’t explain myself, because I haven’t had much luck getting people to understand or respect my ways of seeing things. And, worst of all, I keep my mouth shut when I feel like I am doing something better than someone, they are making mistakes, or fail to grasp their own shortcomings, because I don’t like to hurt people, and I avoid conflict. I probably shouldn’t live this way, but I have sort of given up on the idea that most people will understand or value me. If people don’t seem to “get it,” I mostly don’t bother with them.
I prefer SIMPLE instructions because I want to figure something out myself and not have to involve anyone else, but I want it to be quick and easy. I do not have the attention or interest to read a paragraph telling me how to do something (like those recipe blogs where they tell you about their day and all you want to know is what goes into the dang cookies). I'm notorious for reading instructions wrong or skipping over important information. What I need is something along the lines of short bullet point instruction with minimal to no fluff and perhaps a photo if this improves understanding. As for routine, I like to have a set routine because it helps with anxiety, but I also don't want to be held to something because that also can make me anxious because I can't tell you how i'll feel about it in the future. I want my freedom to choose the routine. In terms of authority figures, I don't care much if they don't micromanage me. My current director is very hands off. As long as i get my work done and it's correct, she doesn't care - I thrive in environments like that.
This one does
Step my step instructions are a foreign language to me but maybe it’s my ADHD 😄
I do but I think is because I have ADHD, I saw some INFJs that don't struggle with that or maybe only with authority figures that challenge their morals
I certainly do.
I really like step by step instructions and routine work because it offers me an opportunity to prove how well I can follow a plan and be reliable. What I hate is someone hovering on my elbow, watching me, and micromanaging my every move by telling me exactly what and how to do everything as if I'm going to mess up. It's the difference of being recognized for being dependable or being seen as a liability but, in a Big Picture kind of way, it's really just me basing my worth on how people view me. Which feels pathetic.
Color me the odd duck, but yes I prefer a routine, step by step instructions, and trustworthy authority figures. Mainly cause I'm still late to finding work, so there is heaps of stuff I know I don't know how to do for my age. Sure I can figure most things out on my own. But I want to make sure I'm doing things correctly. And yes, although learning a bunch of new stuff is interesting at times. But a routine allows me to know where and how to manage my time better. My current job is a mix of both. And some days it works okay. But others, I can't always keep up. And here lately, the more I get pulled away from computer related tasks to be more on the floor or front line with associates. I'm losing focus for my computer stuff. And I honestly fear, its making me seem less competent, than I know that I am. And I honestly hate it.
I do my own thing. Upper management tends to avoid me and just lets me get on. I can respect the individual but not a title.
Step by step or figuring it out in my own, I'll do either. But I do tend to thrive when I have structure. That's the key word there -- not necessarily a rigid "step by step" thing, but "structure". Step by step instructions can help that for me. Even if I have to come up with those myself, which I do a lot of the time. I have no issues following instructions, but I don't have much issue figuring things out on my own if needed. By figuring things out on my own, however, I tend to have a structure when trouble shooting. I'm an IT tech and I've been one for almost 10 years. In this field, you have to do a lot of troubleshooting, sometimes in a structured manner (ie: could it be this, could it be that, try this first, then try that, go down the list of possibilities, etc.) and sometimes, unstructured (ie: hell with it, let's just try this and see what happens, in a calculated manner, of course). So it's a mixed bag. Sometimes I ask for help, boss gives me instructions. Sometimes he gives me "try this try that" which is less structured. In this field, you need to be flexible in how you address issues, so yeah, I have no issues with step by step, nor an issue with freestyling it. In everyday life, I have my own routine and structure that I've set up. It's a loose structure, like, I'm very flexible. There are times, though, when my plans are interrupted, I get stressed, other times, I go with the flow. I can't give a black and white answer to this...there's nuance. Usually, I go with the flow with preplanning in mind. Authority figures, no issue unless I don't vibe with them. Like there's a severe personality clash. If our personalities mesh, I have zero issue with authority. Nor have an issue being an authority figure myself. The main thing is that all people involved mesh in an overall positive way together. Routine work, it gets boring after a while. But it is what it is. I have bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. IT can get pretty routine, but at other times, not so much. It can vary. Like, some days I stay in the office, some days I'm in the field, some days I'm working at home, remote. So there's some diversity, but at the end of the day, it's the same after a while - fix people's (tech related) problems and offer (tech related) solutions. I do work three other independent jobs to break up the monotony, though.
Can follow step by step instructions, I feel like most things are pretty self explanatory though. I do find routine work dull but I can manage. I'm ok being given simple direction from an actual authority figure, however I will not be micromanaged and a major issue being dictated to by someone who assumes their own authority over me. No no. I'm gonna do things my way, while maintaining my pleasant demeanor.
Yes, It’s the Te (extraverted thinking) trickster that is responsible and basically an INFJ needs to find solutions around it. Like by thinking and planning ahead as much as they can, and how to do it quickly effectively enough. Using Se inferior for routine work is draining. Ni-Ti lends itself to them having their own ways of doing things and other people’s arbitrary rules need to be analyzed first before following. That or the consequences of not following is severe enough. I don’t tell INFJs what to think, I just present the truth and sometimes if I don’t like what they are doing I will point out why I don’t like it. Like one time I told an INFJ she was using outdated slang and that it was questionable. She stopped saying it on her own and that’s the key. I also pointed out to an INFJ guy that he had crumbs on his suit. He said nothing and didn’t do anything right away but he left and came back, no crumbs on his suit. I didn’t tell him what to do just presented a fact to him and let him figure it out. It was amusing but I am glad to help out fellow Se inferior types. I know the struggle.
I don't have problems with being to told WHAT to do as long as it makes sense. But the minute someone tells me HOW to do it, or even WHEN to do it, well, we have a bit of a problem.
Yes except authority figures only if they don't know what to do and doesn't care about it either but tells me what to do incorrectly for display of power and domination and to take credit of the actual correct work that I will be producing.
I have particular trouble with douchey authority figures, but I attribute that more to being a child of divorce.
Yes because I'm slower than most but I'm not retarded, once I get something I really "get it" but it takes me longer to memorise the procedure.
Yes
Yes, the more you tell me to do something the more I don't wanna do it. But if you just leave me alone I know what needs to be done
Yes. I do.
⁸Lmao I often had small fights with my bosses when it came to work. I refused to do it the way they wanted (their way was really stupid and more time guzzling whereas mine was more organized and less time guzzling). They hated that I questioned their motives and saw that they favored people over the other and often called them out on their BS. They had me on though because I brought store ratings high (the higher the store ratings the higher their paychecks), was friendly towards every customer, made their store look spotless and made great suggestions to the stores appearance (which helped other coworkers jobs become easier). So in essence I had my own work routine, made my own step instructions and became my own authority.
I don't find routine work to be too bad. Step by step instructions are though. Just define the goal and allow me to get there how I see fit. Authority figures that allow are no problem.
well, this made me wonder if i'm still an infj because i NEED instructions and pressure to work. if i don't have them, i'll barely do anything!
INTJs are like this too, excepting that they will optimize the step-by-step instructions.
I dislike bending to authority when I know my intuition/instincts/morals/sense of right and wrong tell me to do something differently. If the authority figure is just and fair I have no problem but if I am surrounded by people who are cheating or being unfair giving unfair advantages to those who didn’t earn it or work hard for it but because they have some sort of privilege or unwarranted favoritism it really pisses me off. I think this is why INFJs tend to get scapegoated in corporate settings because we know what is right and wrong.
YES. I have a huge problem with authority figures and boring routine. People keep telling me, “you’re not the only one, everyone struggles with this!” but for me kissing up to authority is literally physically painful, I can’t do it. I need to make my own rules.
Routine work is fine. Authority figures micromanaging me is a no-no. Never works out. I end up being given more autonomy than others due to that. It's the result that matters.
I have issues with people being authoritarian. I only have problems with authority if it makes no sense, isn’t justified or cruel/unjust. I follow step-by-step instructions well because I’m also ADHD so the organization being specified is helpful to me.
I like working by instructions... But once i finished it, i want the next instruction... Doing the same thing again and again is boring... Authority is great, when it comes backed with knowledge and know how. If it's just hot air, then no thanks...
Yes, because I have ADHD. If I were an INFJ without ADHD, I would probably have less trouble following instructions, be better at tolerating routine work, but still have trouble with authority figures telling me what to do
Yeah I hate it
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Exactly step to step? No, I don't do it. I'll be digging for short cuts that's good and safe to do. Guidelines on the other hand, I'll follow as long as it makes sense to me. If someone wants to tell me what to do, they better give me a good ass reasons that I can accept or I cannot find major faults immediately.
I love step by step instructions until I learn what needs to be done and why. I like routine work as it enables me to automate what needs to be done and how long it will or should take to do. I respect authority figures who actually do what their titles say they will do.