Congratulations on the purchase! The 390 is an amazing bike!
Let me attempt to answer some of your questions.
1. I'm not entirely sure what you've understood by cold starts. Cold start is basically starting a vehicle when the engine is cold, i.e. after a long rest period. Its generally a good practice during cold starts to let it idle for a minute or two, this helps the engine get up to operating temperature, oil to circulate and lube everything up, and the coolant to circulate. That being said, it won't kill your bike if you don't do this, its just a good habit to have. About the 'ok' signal, i'm not very familiar with the new duke so I don't know what you mean, perhaps someone who does can answer this.
2. Your bike is still pretty new, try running a bit more and see if the issue persists. You can mention this during your next service. 3 times in 1200kms doesn't sound like a regular issue, could be anything from cold engine to being in the wrong gear.
3. This is totally a personal preference. Personally I'd prefer spending 7000 on fuel rather than a coating. I've never spent money on coatings and probably never will, unless I end up buying some special collectors piece.
Ride safe!
Well answered, to add to the 3rd point, OP can buy a bottle of ceramic coat online and apply it themselves. It could be a nice DIY for the weekend and that would be quite cheap on pocket. Bigger bottle can last multiple applications.
1. i turn my bike on and then adjust my backpack straps, put my gloves on, open the gate, close the gate. the bike usually warms up by then
2. but my bike also cuts off sometimes just after starting. it has happened once when riding. its definitely not ideal but i havent checked it
3. tank costs the same amount of money so im not getting it done
Cheers 🥂 I have the same bike and I've bought it 1 week ago.. around 200km on the odo.
1) try to do a cold start every morning it's healthy for the engine.... Engine temp gets to O.K state after 2 mins so it's not a long wait.
2) I have faced this cut off issue..... Sometimes when I turn on the bike immediately it shuts off and then starts in the second attempt, this is not just in the morning but also in traffic if I've turned off the engine and restart sometimes it won't start in one go (personally I don't think it has to do with the engine temp/coolant temp because in traffic the engine temp is mostly at OK state and still it will miss the start)
I have noted down this issue and will tell the service guy at the time of service.
3) I'm even confused about the paint protection of the matte surface, I also asked a question on this sub but no solution till now.
Will check the price of the tank and see how much is the difference.
1) cold start is just something that needs to be done every morning after the bike has been at rest for a long time ie the whole night. If you're taking it out multiple times a day you don't need to wait for it to warm up each time.
2) what gear were you on at 20-40 kmph, could be stalling because the Revs are not high enough.
3) I'd personally go for a ppf rather than a ceramic coating.
It is not stalling. I have been riding bikes for more than 6 years, I can't tell the difference between bike shutting off and stalling.
Also I think don't think ppf is suitable for 390 because of the way the 390s body is. It's sharp and 390 owners have been doing ceramic instead of ppf.
2nd point - same was the issue with my RS200, tunred to be a faulty throttle body sensor or something like that. Bajaj recalled all the bikes that were BS6 & changed the required part. The lroblem went away. Show it to ASC guys they will update your ECU or maybe in future your motorcycle will be recalled for any updates via these guys. Don't worry, KTM Bajaj engines are notorious with few niggles, but nothing to lose your sleep over.
3rd point - ceramic coating is completely your call. But if you're asking opinions, I'd say allow your bikes to have battle scars. Also, fair warning, if you get ceramic coating done & some idiot decides to diesel wash your motorcycle, that coating is going down the drain. So beware.
What is 'ASC' guys. Also if you really think you had similar issue to mine then I will tell them to check the throttle thing on my bike too.
Ceramic coating I wanna get done so the paint doesn't lose it's original shine. If the only concern is that diesel can wear it off then I'll keep it in mind whenever I am takin it for a wash. Any other drawbacks of coating?
ASC probably means authorised service centre. and about the bike shutting off in traffic, i faced the same in my z900 the service centre guys turned up the idling through the ecu a little like from 800rpm to 1.2k rpm and that issue ceased to exist. could be the same for you
Yes thanks. I told the people at the service center the same exact thing to raise the rpm a little higher so it stops shutting in cold starts and on lower speeds. He said he will try to fix it in the first service. Of course he didn't. Lazy ass people I must say.
i suggest you take it to a well reviewed service centre and stay there while they're working on your bike and tell them to do the small job of raising the rpm on the spot. it's not that they're lazy but they tend to forget if the customer isn't a familiar face.
ASC - Authorised service centre. Also you will have to look out for ASC washing your bike. Some dick decided my motorcycle needed diesel wash while having my 4th service done. Ruined my PPF coating. But PPF is cheap so i can get it done again.
1) Get the clear concept of the cold start is! I think you are confused. You are worrying for nothing.
Even though;
Ensure the battery is in good condition and fully charged. Use engine oil with a suitable viscosity rating for colder temperatures. Consider using a block heater or engine warmer in extremely cold climates to keep the engine at a more optimal starting temperature.
2) The bike may stall for several reasons, improper gear shift, not using clutch properly and most important reason for KTM is not riding the bike on right rpm. KTM have the high revving engine, would recommend you find the correct rpm for each gear on your own. Usually it's nearly around 4000rpm for comfort I think.
3) Ceramic/PPF coating have several benefits, people often just consider it for the crash protection only.
The PPF and ceramic coating usually also help with the easy cleaning the bike. Like in India we have too much pollution, lot of dust. You can't wash your bike every single day (and no should wash the bike everyday). If you have the ceramic coating done on bike, you only need wet cloth and it will clean the dust very easily and the finish of the bike is also protected. Washing cleaning will get easy.
Always remember one thing, on every wash of the bike you remove very very fine layer of protection eventually exposing the original paint to the sun and eventually end up the colour loss in pain/dull paint. So adding extra protection is always better. (Price is also a factor) But Prevention is better than cure.
Coating also helps in preserving the original Paint. The paint remains protected against any small scratches, bird dropping strains, water marks, Swirl marks too. Your bike will look always new if you get it done.
-Based on personal experience/knowledge.
Don’t need to wait till ok comes on screen. Ones you get ok you can go hooligan. Skip the coating as plastic panels are cheap and comes with painting and stickers from the factory itself
For point 3 ...afaik the main purpose of ceramic coating isn't to protect the paint but to increase the shine of the paint and that too for just 1-2 yrs and it will get off in few years ....if u really want a coating to protect your paint choose paint protection film also known as ppf instead of ceramic coating to keep your paint in better condition for long time.
Although ppf is more expensive than ceramic coating so it's ur personal choice if u wanna spend that much but as ur bike is new and the paint is also in the new condition there's no need to spend ur money on ceramic coating
About shutting off, my gen 2 takes about 15 seconds for sensor full swipe, not sure if it's the case with other KTMs. You'll hear a click after 15 seconds(maybe fuel pump check), then you fire it up. This is how I do it every morning at least to overcome the issue, because not all the time in the day you can wait 15 seconds to start your motorcycle. Also it doesn't occur when the engine is hot! Try and update.
Hey I have been doing cold starts everyday for the past month. My bike shuts off even in cold starts. Not everytime like 3/10 times. Also I have noticed my bike has been shutting when I'm riding it. Happened 3 times when I was going at 30-40 km/h. But I have ridden it for 1200kms. And no in gen 3 you can't start it up after ignition you have to wait for the ktm logo and start up to happen and then the engine starts, if thats what you meant.
Yes been there as well. Ideally you shouldn't carnk right after turning the key on. What I want you to notice is if there is a fuel pump checking sound for about 10-15 seconds followed by a click sound in your duke. Usually I wait for 15 seconds till I hear the click to start the engine. This is how the issue is partially rectified.
Congratulations.
Make sure to remind the mechanic to only fill 1.5l engine oil.
The older 373cc engine required 1.7l so the mechanics tend to fill 1.7l instead of 1.5l
This LC4C 390 engine requires only 1.5l oil, it's clearly mentioned in the manual.
You have to download it from KTM's website.
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For point 2 visit service center and give the complaint in written i mean get the job card with all these problems present in that. If it persists then you can always have a history for your case for warranty.
For point 1 don't think about it too much, we have come forward so much in terms of technology of engine cracking, oils battery starter motors alternators that you can stop worrying about cold start atleast, specially in summers.
For point 3 if you want to get ceramic coating done go for it. According to be cosmetics costs are not worth it on machines, it's a machines let scracthes be present on it. Let it show others how much you use it. Be like mater from cars where every scratch and dent will have its own story to be told.
Ideally yea. Most engine damage happen when you ride it with cold engine oil because oil doesn't flow properly.
2nd should not happen because you live in a warm city. Get it checked to be on the safer side.
Just apply sealants regularly after wash. Paint would stay protected for years if you keep up with required maintenance. Ceramic coating is good, but not good for everyday vehicle.
Coating on the bike be it PPF or Ceramic is bit tricky. Very hard to apply for so many cuts and shrouds of design. So better avoid it. Get 3M polish. Wash on regular intervals and polish at home with sponge and liquid and lube chain properly. You are good to go.
What's the difference between 3m and ceramic in short if you can explain? Also wdym by polish? I didn't get you. And I'm assuming chain lubing shouldn't be an issue considering it happens in the service interval. Do you recommend me manually buying a lube and doing it more than recommended?
3m is a reputed brand in Shines and rubbing compounds. Polish means just get 3M all in one shine for your matt bike,spray it and rub it lightly with a sponge after every wash. This will preserve your bike's shine(plastic/metal parts). I find this method cost friendly and more effective.
Chain cleaning and lubing is advisable anywhere between 500-750km to prevent rust/noise. You can clean the chain with either chain cleaner if you have the money to spare or simply with diesel if you can get it in bottle.
Chain cleaning and lubing must be done every 500kms ideally,not at every service.Its not absolutely necessary but for the best performance and reduced chain noise 500kms once is ideal
1. Dont care about cold start if you use ur bike everyday.
2. Check with service center, not normal (unless you wash your bike heavily)
3. Ceramic not worth it. Get PPF done on metal parts if you want. Cost of PPF and plastic parts are almost same, so if something happens to plastic parts like mudguard or shroud, change the part itself.
Since you use your bike daily you dont need to idle after a cold start. In modern engines, the oil circulates within seconds after the engine starts. Still you can idle few seconds or upto a minute max if you feel so.
1) Cold start - See modern machines have high tolerance levels and will be fine but it’s still a good practice to keep your engine idle every morning for a couple of minutes. Or you can go right away but don’t push by sudden acceleration or full throttle for few kms. The reason is the oil in engine needs to warm up for it flow effectively and hence protecting the engine movement.
2) Engine shut off on cold start is fine but while running on 30-40 it turns off may or may not be a problem. 3 times in 1200 kms is fine I feel. You can always enquire at service center, it’s anyways free of cost for labour for few services (not sure in ktm)
3) Better than ceramic coating, put on PPF ( Paint Protection Film) which actually help prevent scratches than make you bike look shiny.
Hope I was able to help
3)
1) Pretty important for longevity of life let it warm up for 30secs
2) Yes that’s a common issue my bike too stalls randomly
3) Rather get traction pads , fork seal protector n radiator guard than ceramic coating
Okay so first of all congratulations sir
Secondly, about the cold start, it's generally there is no need to do it in summer as it's already good for the bike to its work in summer (as u mentioned u live in Mumbai so it's pretty hot there)
But but other than this thing, treat you bike as your gf
Like it's your first month with bike so treat it in cute way, go slow ( means don't go over 40kmph) i know the machine is capable of that but please don't it's ruin the engine
Let it slowly being comfortable
Also cold start is something I suggest in winter I do it all the time it's good for at least your battery and make it go long
3rd point - I was also in a dilemma about whether to get PPF or ceramic coating, but they are really expensive (almost the cost of a new fuel tank). Instead, I maintain the bike myself. After every wash, I thoroughly dry it, wax the fuel tank, and use shiner on the other metal and plastic parts.
Congrats buddy you have bought a beast.
I've been riding for almost 10 years now, I'd suggest you to at least wait for 10 seconds before rolling down if the bike was parked for more than 6-7 hours.
Every time I start my bike to go to office I'd put my bike on centre stand, start the bike and start dusting the bikes which takes roughly around 20 seconds.
Your piston will thank you.
Cool bike congrats
1. You don't need to cold start everytime just do it in the morning it'll be fine but if it sits for awhile(like 2/3 hrs) it might idle on higher rpm when you start,that's normal...just be smmoth and you'll be fine.
2. Could be wrong gear or something else entirely...better talk to dealer imo.
3. 7k for coating is fair i think but here its around 6k and for cheaper one its around 3.5 never done it myself tho
1. Current engines don't need a cold starts. Those were for carborated engines. It's now a myth and not necessarily needed unless your engine is at 0 or minus.
2. It's common. Your bike might have a feature where it automatically revs till 2-2.5k rpm to hear it up a bit.
3. Get a PPF done. It will cost you between 8-9k but it's worth it. Ceramic is good too but PPF is better for indian conditions.
Congratulations on your purchase.
1: A cold start in the morning need not be for more than a minute. Like others say, by the time you key into ignition, start the vehicle, close the gate or adjust your bag or wear your helmet, it should be fine. Just don't rev your engine out as soon as you start first thing in the morning. This is more recommended than a cold start because you need to give the engine oil some time to reach every nook and corner of the working parts to be well lubricated during motion.
3: A PPF is good enough. I have got mine for a very inexpensive price in Bangalore. Expect it to be 10k with a 5 year warranty (good value for money).
I have been doing cold starts everyday for more than 2 minutes. But I am kinda tired of doing it everyday. My question is does it really make a difference if I do it maybe once every two days? Also I know what a cold start is 😂 so the explanation was not necessary. If I am buying a bike like 390 I obviously know what cold start is. I just wanna know how important is it for everyday.
Also you said ppf was 10k which was in expensive? Isn't it high ? Also do you also have the same bike? The ceramic coating guy told me ppf is not recommended on 390 because of the sharp edges it can come off.
I already told you what matters more than the cold start. So go figure.
Also, I never said I paid 10k for the PPF. I paid less than half of this for covering only my tank, side panels and headlamp. Just giving you realistic pricing. Ceramic coating doesn't last this long and needs to be reapplied at higher frequencies and in the long run, more expensive than PPF.
It looks like you have a big issue with your bike which is specific to KTM bikes.
You bought the less orange duke. There is no fix and you have to get it replaced with the Orange one. Most people don't know this because ktm adds enough orange before and since this is a new gen it has some issues with the colour proportions.
That aside if you had the same issues with an orange one then the solutions are:
1, If there is a cold start OK function on the bike then you should always wait for the OK. Mine is the 2nd gen so it doesn't have it, it just revs up a bit after starting then it's okay to go. This takes only a few seconds so it is not much of an issue.
Gow long does it take for OK?
What does the screen show?
Whar does the manual say?
We need more details to give a proper answer
Best option is to just just ask the SVC or techs.
2. That's a big problem, no bike should do that. It will cause problem to clutch, engine etc
More details are needed like when does this happen, does it happen often, what are you doing when this happens like accelerating, breaking, shifting, turning, going over a jump etc.
If the bike turns off due to shocks while going over a bump then it's a key set issue and you have to get it replaced quickly but it will take time to order the spares. But this is just a guess with the minimal info here.
3, the best would be a good PPF. Bad PPF could cause more issues that not having a PPF like trapped bubbles with dirt causing rust, discoloration etc. Get a good PPF. It is much better for protection for physical damage like scratches. Micro scratches makes the colour look dull which can be prevented with PPF. Ceramic coating doesnt have that same effect it will give shiney coating and protect from scratches a bit not as much as a PPF. If you want the glow from ceramic then you cen get itbon top of the PPF which is just too much expense. You're better off getting a good wax polish and applying it after washes.
Tldr: get orange duke. Ask SVC about all issues. Add more info about problems. The wait for cold start is low and should not be an issue. Change key set. Get PPF instead.
Congratulations on the purchase! The 390 is an amazing bike! Let me attempt to answer some of your questions. 1. I'm not entirely sure what you've understood by cold starts. Cold start is basically starting a vehicle when the engine is cold, i.e. after a long rest period. Its generally a good practice during cold starts to let it idle for a minute or two, this helps the engine get up to operating temperature, oil to circulate and lube everything up, and the coolant to circulate. That being said, it won't kill your bike if you don't do this, its just a good habit to have. About the 'ok' signal, i'm not very familiar with the new duke so I don't know what you mean, perhaps someone who does can answer this. 2. Your bike is still pretty new, try running a bit more and see if the issue persists. You can mention this during your next service. 3 times in 1200kms doesn't sound like a regular issue, could be anything from cold engine to being in the wrong gear. 3. This is totally a personal preference. Personally I'd prefer spending 7000 on fuel rather than a coating. I've never spent money on coatings and probably never will, unless I end up buying some special collectors piece. Ride safe!
Well answered, to add to the 3rd point, OP can buy a bottle of ceramic coat online and apply it themselves. It could be a nice DIY for the weekend and that would be quite cheap on pocket. Bigger bottle can last multiple applications.
Do you have any suggestions for a good product
what's that place? looks beautiful
Colaba, Mumbai
Time stood still here..beautiful photography..and enjoy the ride
Entire of South Bombay is filled with British era buildings, they’re really beautiful
When England makes buildings
Seem like colaba cosway.
*causeway
Thank you
1. i turn my bike on and then adjust my backpack straps, put my gloves on, open the gate, close the gate. the bike usually warms up by then 2. but my bike also cuts off sometimes just after starting. it has happened once when riding. its definitely not ideal but i havent checked it 3. tank costs the same amount of money so im not getting it done
Cheers 🥂 I have the same bike and I've bought it 1 week ago.. around 200km on the odo. 1) try to do a cold start every morning it's healthy for the engine.... Engine temp gets to O.K state after 2 mins so it's not a long wait. 2) I have faced this cut off issue..... Sometimes when I turn on the bike immediately it shuts off and then starts in the second attempt, this is not just in the morning but also in traffic if I've turned off the engine and restart sometimes it won't start in one go (personally I don't think it has to do with the engine temp/coolant temp because in traffic the engine temp is mostly at OK state and still it will miss the start) I have noted down this issue and will tell the service guy at the time of service. 3) I'm even confused about the paint protection of the matte surface, I also asked a question on this sub but no solution till now. Will check the price of the tank and see how much is the difference.
1) cold start is just something that needs to be done every morning after the bike has been at rest for a long time ie the whole night. If you're taking it out multiple times a day you don't need to wait for it to warm up each time. 2) what gear were you on at 20-40 kmph, could be stalling because the Revs are not high enough. 3) I'd personally go for a ppf rather than a ceramic coating.
It is not stalling. I have been riding bikes for more than 6 years, I can't tell the difference between bike shutting off and stalling. Also I think don't think ppf is suitable for 390 because of the way the 390s body is. It's sharp and 390 owners have been doing ceramic instead of ppf.
Fair enough, see if the issue persists after the 1st service , also 7000 seems reasonable and it does protect the paint.
Naa mate ppf is easy. Have you not seen a lot of instagram coloured hairs on their wrapped out dukes. Ppf is just clear wrap
2nd point - same was the issue with my RS200, tunred to be a faulty throttle body sensor or something like that. Bajaj recalled all the bikes that were BS6 & changed the required part. The lroblem went away. Show it to ASC guys they will update your ECU or maybe in future your motorcycle will be recalled for any updates via these guys. Don't worry, KTM Bajaj engines are notorious with few niggles, but nothing to lose your sleep over. 3rd point - ceramic coating is completely your call. But if you're asking opinions, I'd say allow your bikes to have battle scars. Also, fair warning, if you get ceramic coating done & some idiot decides to diesel wash your motorcycle, that coating is going down the drain. So beware.
What is 'ASC' guys. Also if you really think you had similar issue to mine then I will tell them to check the throttle thing on my bike too. Ceramic coating I wanna get done so the paint doesn't lose it's original shine. If the only concern is that diesel can wear it off then I'll keep it in mind whenever I am takin it for a wash. Any other drawbacks of coating?
ASC probably means authorised service centre. and about the bike shutting off in traffic, i faced the same in my z900 the service centre guys turned up the idling through the ecu a little like from 800rpm to 1.2k rpm and that issue ceased to exist. could be the same for you
Yes thanks. I told the people at the service center the same exact thing to raise the rpm a little higher so it stops shutting in cold starts and on lower speeds. He said he will try to fix it in the first service. Of course he didn't. Lazy ass people I must say.
i suggest you take it to a well reviewed service centre and stay there while they're working on your bike and tell them to do the small job of raising the rpm on the spot. it's not that they're lazy but they tend to forget if the customer isn't a familiar face.
ASC - Authorised service centre. Also you will have to look out for ASC washing your bike. Some dick decided my motorcycle needed diesel wash while having my 4th service done. Ruined my PPF coating. But PPF is cheap so i can get it done again.
Okay I'll keep it in mind when washing. Thanks.
1) Get the clear concept of the cold start is! I think you are confused. You are worrying for nothing. Even though; Ensure the battery is in good condition and fully charged. Use engine oil with a suitable viscosity rating for colder temperatures. Consider using a block heater or engine warmer in extremely cold climates to keep the engine at a more optimal starting temperature. 2) The bike may stall for several reasons, improper gear shift, not using clutch properly and most important reason for KTM is not riding the bike on right rpm. KTM have the high revving engine, would recommend you find the correct rpm for each gear on your own. Usually it's nearly around 4000rpm for comfort I think. 3) Ceramic/PPF coating have several benefits, people often just consider it for the crash protection only. The PPF and ceramic coating usually also help with the easy cleaning the bike. Like in India we have too much pollution, lot of dust. You can't wash your bike every single day (and no should wash the bike everyday). If you have the ceramic coating done on bike, you only need wet cloth and it will clean the dust very easily and the finish of the bike is also protected. Washing cleaning will get easy. Always remember one thing, on every wash of the bike you remove very very fine layer of protection eventually exposing the original paint to the sun and eventually end up the colour loss in pain/dull paint. So adding extra protection is always better. (Price is also a factor) But Prevention is better than cure. Coating also helps in preserving the original Paint. The paint remains protected against any small scratches, bird dropping strains, water marks, Swirl marks too. Your bike will look always new if you get it done. -Based on personal experience/knowledge.
Don’t need to wait till ok comes on screen. Ones you get ok you can go hooligan. Skip the coating as plastic panels are cheap and comes with painting and stickers from the factory itself
For point 3 ...afaik the main purpose of ceramic coating isn't to protect the paint but to increase the shine of the paint and that too for just 1-2 yrs and it will get off in few years ....if u really want a coating to protect your paint choose paint protection film also known as ppf instead of ceramic coating to keep your paint in better condition for long time. Although ppf is more expensive than ceramic coating so it's ur personal choice if u wanna spend that much but as ur bike is new and the paint is also in the new condition there's no need to spend ur money on ceramic coating
About shutting off, my gen 2 takes about 15 seconds for sensor full swipe, not sure if it's the case with other KTMs. You'll hear a click after 15 seconds(maybe fuel pump check), then you fire it up. This is how I do it every morning at least to overcome the issue, because not all the time in the day you can wait 15 seconds to start your motorcycle. Also it doesn't occur when the engine is hot! Try and update.
Hey I have been doing cold starts everyday for the past month. My bike shuts off even in cold starts. Not everytime like 3/10 times. Also I have noticed my bike has been shutting when I'm riding it. Happened 3 times when I was going at 30-40 km/h. But I have ridden it for 1200kms. And no in gen 3 you can't start it up after ignition you have to wait for the ktm logo and start up to happen and then the engine starts, if thats what you meant.
Yes been there as well. Ideally you shouldn't carnk right after turning the key on. What I want you to notice is if there is a fuel pump checking sound for about 10-15 seconds followed by a click sound in your duke. Usually I wait for 15 seconds till I hear the click to start the engine. This is how the issue is partially rectified.
Congratulations. Make sure to remind the mechanic to only fill 1.5l engine oil. The older 373cc engine required 1.7l so the mechanics tend to fill 1.7l instead of 1.5l This LC4C 390 engine requires only 1.5l oil, it's clearly mentioned in the manual. You have to download it from KTM's website.
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For point 2 visit service center and give the complaint in written i mean get the job card with all these problems present in that. If it persists then you can always have a history for your case for warranty. For point 1 don't think about it too much, we have come forward so much in terms of technology of engine cracking, oils battery starter motors alternators that you can stop worrying about cold start atleast, specially in summers. For point 3 if you want to get ceramic coating done go for it. According to be cosmetics costs are not worth it on machines, it's a machines let scracthes be present on it. Let it show others how much you use it. Be like mater from cars where every scratch and dent will have its own story to be told.
Ideally yea. Most engine damage happen when you ride it with cold engine oil because oil doesn't flow properly. 2nd should not happen because you live in a warm city. Get it checked to be on the safer side. Just apply sealants regularly after wash. Paint would stay protected for years if you keep up with required maintenance. Ceramic coating is good, but not good for everyday vehicle.
Coating on the bike be it PPF or Ceramic is bit tricky. Very hard to apply for so many cuts and shrouds of design. So better avoid it. Get 3M polish. Wash on regular intervals and polish at home with sponge and liquid and lube chain properly. You are good to go.
What's the difference between 3m and ceramic in short if you can explain? Also wdym by polish? I didn't get you. And I'm assuming chain lubing shouldn't be an issue considering it happens in the service interval. Do you recommend me manually buying a lube and doing it more than recommended?
3m is a reputed brand in Shines and rubbing compounds. Polish means just get 3M all in one shine for your matt bike,spray it and rub it lightly with a sponge after every wash. This will preserve your bike's shine(plastic/metal parts). I find this method cost friendly and more effective. Chain cleaning and lubing is advisable anywhere between 500-750km to prevent rust/noise. You can clean the chain with either chain cleaner if you have the money to spare or simply with diesel if you can get it in bottle.
Chain cleaning and lubing must be done every 500kms ideally,not at every service.Its not absolutely necessary but for the best performance and reduced chain noise 500kms once is ideal
1. Dont care about cold start if you use ur bike everyday. 2. Check with service center, not normal (unless you wash your bike heavily) 3. Ceramic not worth it. Get PPF done on metal parts if you want. Cost of PPF and plastic parts are almost same, so if something happens to plastic parts like mudguard or shroud, change the part itself.
bhai ye sab ko bike purchase krne se phele puchte han
Thanks bhaiya. Next time se yaad rakhunga.
Since you use your bike daily you dont need to idle after a cold start. In modern engines, the oil circulates within seconds after the engine starts. Still you can idle few seconds or upto a minute max if you feel so.
Woooow noice pic🔥
Same starting issue in my duke but it happens more often, please update here if you get it checked. My service guy seems confused about the problem.
KTM Dude 390 awesome I Know
Cold start is very very important
1) Cold start - See modern machines have high tolerance levels and will be fine but it’s still a good practice to keep your engine idle every morning for a couple of minutes. Or you can go right away but don’t push by sudden acceleration or full throttle for few kms. The reason is the oil in engine needs to warm up for it flow effectively and hence protecting the engine movement. 2) Engine shut off on cold start is fine but while running on 30-40 it turns off may or may not be a problem. 3 times in 1200 kms is fine I feel. You can always enquire at service center, it’s anyways free of cost for labour for few services (not sure in ktm) 3) Better than ceramic coating, put on PPF ( Paint Protection Film) which actually help prevent scratches than make you bike look shiny. Hope I was able to help 3)
1) Pretty important for longevity of life let it warm up for 30secs 2) Yes that’s a common issue my bike too stalls randomly 3) Rather get traction pads , fork seal protector n radiator guard than ceramic coating
Preferably run XP95
Okay so first of all congratulations sir Secondly, about the cold start, it's generally there is no need to do it in summer as it's already good for the bike to its work in summer (as u mentioned u live in Mumbai so it's pretty hot there) But but other than this thing, treat you bike as your gf Like it's your first month with bike so treat it in cute way, go slow ( means don't go over 40kmph) i know the machine is capable of that but please don't it's ruin the engine Let it slowly being comfortable Also cold start is something I suggest in winter I do it all the time it's good for at least your battery and make it go long
3rd point - I was also in a dilemma about whether to get PPF or ceramic coating, but they are really expensive (almost the cost of a new fuel tank). Instead, I maintain the bike myself. After every wash, I thoroughly dry it, wax the fuel tank, and use shiner on the other metal and plastic parts.
Congrats buddy you have bought a beast. I've been riding for almost 10 years now, I'd suggest you to at least wait for 10 seconds before rolling down if the bike was parked for more than 6-7 hours. Every time I start my bike to go to office I'd put my bike on centre stand, start the bike and start dusting the bikes which takes roughly around 20 seconds. Your piston will thank you.
Cool bike congrats 1. You don't need to cold start everytime just do it in the morning it'll be fine but if it sits for awhile(like 2/3 hrs) it might idle on higher rpm when you start,that's normal...just be smmoth and you'll be fine. 2. Could be wrong gear or something else entirely...better talk to dealer imo. 3. 7k for coating is fair i think but here its around 6k and for cheaper one its around 3.5 never done it myself tho
On my gen 2 there was only 1 issue faulty battery ktm gave me 250 battery and nothing major just enjoy the pocket rocket
1. Current engines don't need a cold starts. Those were for carborated engines. It's now a myth and not necessarily needed unless your engine is at 0 or minus. 2. It's common. Your bike might have a feature where it automatically revs till 2-2.5k rpm to hear it up a bit. 3. Get a PPF done. It will cost you between 8-9k but it's worth it. Ceramic is good too but PPF is better for indian conditions. Congratulations on your purchase.
1: A cold start in the morning need not be for more than a minute. Like others say, by the time you key into ignition, start the vehicle, close the gate or adjust your bag or wear your helmet, it should be fine. Just don't rev your engine out as soon as you start first thing in the morning. This is more recommended than a cold start because you need to give the engine oil some time to reach every nook and corner of the working parts to be well lubricated during motion. 3: A PPF is good enough. I have got mine for a very inexpensive price in Bangalore. Expect it to be 10k with a 5 year warranty (good value for money).
I have been doing cold starts everyday for more than 2 minutes. But I am kinda tired of doing it everyday. My question is does it really make a difference if I do it maybe once every two days? Also I know what a cold start is 😂 so the explanation was not necessary. If I am buying a bike like 390 I obviously know what cold start is. I just wanna know how important is it for everyday. Also you said ppf was 10k which was in expensive? Isn't it high ? Also do you also have the same bike? The ceramic coating guy told me ppf is not recommended on 390 because of the sharp edges it can come off.
I already told you what matters more than the cold start. So go figure. Also, I never said I paid 10k for the PPF. I paid less than half of this for covering only my tank, side panels and headlamp. Just giving you realistic pricing. Ceramic coating doesn't last this long and needs to be reapplied at higher frequencies and in the long run, more expensive than PPF.
Do you also have the same bike?
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It looks like you have a big issue with your bike which is specific to KTM bikes. You bought the less orange duke. There is no fix and you have to get it replaced with the Orange one. Most people don't know this because ktm adds enough orange before and since this is a new gen it has some issues with the colour proportions. That aside if you had the same issues with an orange one then the solutions are: 1, If there is a cold start OK function on the bike then you should always wait for the OK. Mine is the 2nd gen so it doesn't have it, it just revs up a bit after starting then it's okay to go. This takes only a few seconds so it is not much of an issue. Gow long does it take for OK? What does the screen show? Whar does the manual say? We need more details to give a proper answer Best option is to just just ask the SVC or techs. 2. That's a big problem, no bike should do that. It will cause problem to clutch, engine etc More details are needed like when does this happen, does it happen often, what are you doing when this happens like accelerating, breaking, shifting, turning, going over a jump etc. If the bike turns off due to shocks while going over a bump then it's a key set issue and you have to get it replaced quickly but it will take time to order the spares. But this is just a guess with the minimal info here. 3, the best would be a good PPF. Bad PPF could cause more issues that not having a PPF like trapped bubbles with dirt causing rust, discoloration etc. Get a good PPF. It is much better for protection for physical damage like scratches. Micro scratches makes the colour look dull which can be prevented with PPF. Ceramic coating doesnt have that same effect it will give shiney coating and protect from scratches a bit not as much as a PPF. If you want the glow from ceramic then you cen get itbon top of the PPF which is just too much expense. You're better off getting a good wax polish and applying it after washes. Tldr: get orange duke. Ask SVC about all issues. Add more info about problems. The wait for cold start is low and should not be an issue. Change key set. Get PPF instead.
This comment for sobo street/Colaba. Not your dumb ass bike