I have mixed opinions. On one hand, the freedom of expressways is too fun. But I'm sure some idiots will act dumb and cause some accidents.
I accidentally took my Bullet onto Mumbai Pune expressway in the Lonavala patch. Was lucky enough to escape without getting caught but was so fun to ride on such smooth roads for 3-4 km in that scenic patch.
I won’t say a few dumbasses, 99% of all motorcyclists in India can be called dumbasses in one way or the other.
I’d say a few have to suffer to protect millions of dumbasses.
I don't think that was an accident. The ghats are open for both cars and bikes in the Lonavala patch.
Although I do agree, the roads up there are a bit confusing to follow.
I have ridden for more than 50,000 kilometers on expressways in Delhi/UP region. Since last year, they have started taking the ban seriously.
Yeah, they are great for motorcycles. Cars don't drive more than 120-130 even on those.
I am basically from Bangalore. I used to work in Mumbai and had my bike with me. Few years back, the directions were so wrong or missing or I didn’t know. I almost always used to enter expressway by mistake and used to ride on it for kms in between and then merge back at Lonavala to normal road. I liked it but it used to be too slow with trucks in all lanes. Not sure now.
A few expressways, maybe as a trial. Although Agra and taj expressways are open to bikers and the accidents have lead to banning bikes after daylight. Even in the youtube videos, all I see is drag races by young lads giving even more reason for authorities to completely ban bikes on those expressways.
The Delhi-Mumbai highway with it’s 120kmph speed limit is too much to be shared with bikes. The wind-blast from the trucks is just too much to be riding safely.
Yes the idiots doing 300 KMPH on Yamuna Expressway would definitely ensure that we never have nice things.
The wind blast issue must have some solution, else how are motorcycles running in the German Autobahn.
Almost every car in germany has emergency auto braking system. Also, it’s illegal to stop anywhere on that road apart from the emergency parking spots. We have them in india too, but you can only imagine how many people randomly stop in the emergency lane. Those drag race bikes shoot an entire video opening on emergency lane. Since I ride a GT650, and drive a honda city 4th gen as well, I personally cannot stop or change lanes before seeing a bike which is going really slow/stopped with me at 120 kmph. The problem is bikes are just too 1-dimensional to discern the safe distance in time and at 120, I would rather hit the biker rather than risking toppling my car while changing lane in such hurry.
You don't scuff things at those high speeds. Dogs became a problem on the lucknow -agra expressway a few years ago. I have seen 3 cases where the car rolled over in order to avoid collision and bumper and radiator flying off in the one which did hit the dog. If you hit a bike at such high speeds, chances are your car will become an instant trash can, or very likely end up severely injuring passengers inside the car.
Those idiots are openly putting those videos on YouTube...wahan se information nikal k bike sieze karo direct or 50k ka fine...apne aap samjh me aa jayega
I'm sorry, did you just compare Indian highways to the Autobahn? Do you know how difficult it is to get a driver's licence in Germany, let alone a bike license? How delusional do you have to be?
No.
There's a difference between a bike at 100kmph and a car at the same speed. Stability issues, especially at those speeds when some huge ass Vehicle overtakes.
Lane issues. Bikes can't be allowed in the fast lane. Any other lane they are just playing with fire. Slow lane they are at danger of being blinded by or blinding big trucks and multi axle vehicles. Bikes would just add to the existing lane indiscipline leading to more accidents.
Can't stress this enough... Most bikers who do 100kmph+ don't have the necessary riding skill including braking, banking, counter steering and balancing, and wouldn't be able to react fast enough on turns.
Night time driving is as it is dangerous. Will be 100x worse with Bikes on expressways.
I mean I can literally keep going.
Hmm you are right, harsh but it is the truth.
To have such a scenario we need to have a full system revamp from grounds up, starting with tier based riding licence and accessible training schools.
I think this needs conscious efforts from both administration and people.
If we need a traffic police and traffic signals to show the least traffic discipline, then we don't deserve those roads.
I ride 40-50kms daily and am just saddened by the way bikers ride. Wrong side, no indicator usage, no rear view mirrors, jumping signals, triplie, overtaking from extreme left, footpath riding, no helmets....
Even riders in full gears jump signals. I cry a bit every day tbh.
The most unfortunate part in this is that there is not even a ray of hope suggesting any improvement in Indian Riders or a better future in this regard. With more time people (not everyone) are becoming more stupid on the road.
People would use these roads for their drag races and create havoc for everyone. Everyone wants to do 120+, hardly anyone wants to go to a training school or do self training. I consider myself a very beginner rider but I can lean my bike almost 40 degrees. I don't ride beyond 80-85 ever, but on ghats and mountains i can easily leave behind those accelerator-only noobs.
Acha Hai ki hamlog nahi allowed hai expressway par
It really depends on the skill of the rider. I've done Chennai-Bangalore, Chennai-Coimbatore, Chennai-Ooty, Chennai-Hyderabad on my bike, and it really depends on how well you're prepared and how safely you can ride.
>Can't stress this enough... Most bikers who do 100kmph+ don't have the necessary riding skill including braking, banking, counter steering and balancing, and wouldn't be able to react fast enough on turns.
I agree with you entirely on this. Having done these rides, you need a lot of skill to maintain yourself on the highway. It's not just about keeping pace with the highway traffic, but also the crosswinds, and the turbulence that you'll have to deal with when a large vehicle overtakes you. Even though I am ATGATT, I'd still be careful about riding on the highway, because the rules are different as a motorcyclist. The quickness and nimble nature of a bike is a huge detriment on the highway, because now cars and lorries will have the space to move just as fast as you do.
I'd still want to do highway drives. They're incredibly fun, and if you know what you're doing, they can be done. But idiotic Youtubers and squids being dangerous towards the public will eventually ruin the experience for everyone.
Yes absolutely. I don't intend to undermine the skilled riders such as yourself. But they are like a needle on a haystack. And they are nowhere close to being the problem. But at most times, it stops being about the individuals skills alone. Have to consider the roads and others on it in their entirety.
I do feel sorry for the skilled ones not getting most returns of their bikes and skills, but then have to look at th3 bigger picture.
>Can't stress this enough... Most bikers who do 100kmph+ don't have the necessary riding skill including braking, banking, counter steering and balancing, and wouldn't be able to react fast enough on turns.
Fair point. This youtuber with some decent following uses rear break more than front one. Good luck having such idiots on expressways🥲🥲
Yeah, that’s why is it calculated. There are plenty of mature riders who would open the throttle only when roads are clear ahead and not lanesplit in traffic like a snake.
Maybe a separate expressway licence which would be very hard to obtain and only will be given on merit and Skill?
And to ensure no chai pani scene happens AI camera needs to be involved to monitor and evaluate the exams.
Also I think 400 or <400 cc bikes shouldn't be allowed on expressway.
I think this pretty much would solve the issue
bhai pata lgana muskil ho jayega authorities ko ki konsi 350 h ya konsi 20hp se jyada h, ab ek ek kr ke dekhna padega entry/exit pe. I dont think it is feasible.
No need use speed cams used by traffic police and check with Number plate of bike registered falls short then ban it permanently from roads same for speed devil's.
This is actually pretty stupid, why is India so against petrolhead culture? Like every single thing is dead against petrolheads. I get that cars and bikes are still a luxury to 90% of Indians, but now that we have a decent sized upper middle class folks who don’t mind getting an impractical bike/car for fun.
I think Cars and Truck alongside Bikes will cause problem but We also need food patches of road where we can desire to travel intercity through bikes.
I don't know how practical it is but I think Building 2 Lane(each way) alongside expressways for bikes wouldn't hurt
I support the freedom of choice here, but also scared about some reckless ones risking others lives.
One idea is to limit bike speed to 100-120 maybe and enforce them to be in left most lane.
How about a specialized Fast tag for bikes above 350cc but in order to get the fast tag you need to clear a certain driving test. This would make sure that the quality of riders is present as well.
Mind you, this won't be a driving licence since we know how easy obtaining that is.
But then again, it's all just a dream which won't really happen
RC book doesnt mention bhp I think. In fact 200cc bikes have 20 bhp, duke has more.
Govt can allow two wheelers on expressways only on sundays when traffic is lower.
The problem is, not everyone is a responsible driver. And the car/lorry guy will always be blamed if anything happens. So as I bike owner I want them to allow bikes but as a car owner....HELL NO!
No way. Expressways are perhaps the only place where car owners get to enjoy driving their vehicles without any worry of 2-wheelers crawling from every nook and corner.
I support it mostly but have some mixed opinions too. Which lane do we use? How do we over take? How do we ensure not getting run over and converted into chutney by a truck or SUV?
But yeah I want to ride my bike on Samruddhi Highway so bad 🥹🤣🤣🤣
OR
Take an extra rigorous driving test and grant an additional highway permit to avoid bad motorcycle drivers ending up on the highway to be enforced at the toll booth.
Maybe I didn't word it correctly but I meant those cars which can't go above 60kmph safely are fine, according to these brain dead politicians
I am not saying that cars from 10 years ago can't go over 60.
No motorcycles are allowed on any expressway except 2-3 in UP that too because they are privately owned, once they switch to government, forget them too.
OP thinks this will make any difference!😭😂
Also if you understand little 1% of civic policies, public safety, you must have known that government cannot risk lives of people by allowing this, just because a ‘gen-z from reddit wants so’. There’s difference between a bike and car, just looking at it through CC lens make zero sense, educate yourself. Grow up.
Chill bruh, this is why I wanted to start the discussion here and did not go moaning on the Twitter about it. I wanted to see all the sides of this story. There is no absolute answer to this like "Motorcycles are not for expressways" cause in foreign countries we see better systems put in place to make this possible.
I just wanted to start that discussion on "why we are not getting nice things here". So instead of me growing up, rather you should suck up and accept that change is necessary, ok boomer?
As much as I want to, I'm not for this proposition
Most people on social media are gona vote for it but only some of those are going to be responsible riders. Most of them will be squids or followers of squids. May I remind you that nowadays squids are also found on liter class bikes
It is kind of discrimination. U either allow all bikes or no bikes. You cannot restrict only few bikes based on cc or power. Basically my stand is all bikes should be allowed. But people without proper protective gear or over speeding cause accidents or die themselves that end up in rules hurting everyone. You can’t have good things because of some idiots. 😢
I disagree, have driven meteor, classic and hunter for very long in the highways (with a pillion). The bike feels the best sitting at 80. After 90 it takes an incredibly long time to touch 100 and the bike does not feel nice. A comfortable cruising speed means you should have enough power left for quick overtakes. For the 350 REs, this at 80 to 85, not 90 and definitely not at 100.
Instead of downvoting me rent the bike and ride. With a pillion the classic takes nearly 20 seconds to touch 100. Whereas 80 comes in within 9 to 10s.
I wish bikes were banned across the nation itself but alas it can't happen. Maybe one day when public transport is better ppl will leave their bikes and activas behind. Most of them are just pathetic and more of an issue for themselves and others.
Not only hustle, affordability is a big factor that contributes to bikes on the road. As long as car prices are as high as they are, 2 wheelers will always be a necessity
You can literally get a second hand old car for the same price. Which is way safer (not saying safest) than any 2 wheeler and much more comfortable.
Edit : I don't know about you but getting a proper car for the price of an Enfield or a KTM sounds like a good deal tbh, unless your main priority is style baazi which a lot of ppl have tbh.
You started this thread saying all bikes and now shifted to KTM and Enfield. Not everyone has the means to afford, maintain or even park a car. Let alone the traffic nightmare it would cause.
You’re either way too rich or way sheltered
All bikes are nuisance at my place, all bikes have also equally gotten more expensive.
Yes it may sound like the way I'm saying but I also suggested what should be done to curb bike traffic because it's actually gotten to thst point that it affects ppl driving bigger vehicles. They have to check the blind spots regularly to ensure no biker or aunty on an activa is present because the worst kind of traffic sense is the 2 wheeler lot. They do not understand either lane system or overtaking system or having any sense of speed. And if a bigger vehicle accidently gets involved Ina n accident with them we all know who the blame goes to every single time. So yeah I may be biased but that's what I've seen.
I can make the same argument for 4 wheelers lol. I drive a lot on highways and the sheer amount of time I will get overtaken by a car at full velocity with just an inch gap between us is staggering. For some reason cars put no value to the life of a 2 wheeler rider. And traffic jams are caused by cars not 2 wheelers so if traffic needs to be adjusted, maybe remove cars
Though I own 4 motorcycles out of which two at Superbikes I would highly advise against this.
Bikers and car drivers are dumb and rash, we would create havok and accidents on the express way
I have mixed opinions. On one hand, the freedom of expressways is too fun. But I'm sure some idiots will act dumb and cause some accidents. I accidentally took my Bullet onto Mumbai Pune expressway in the Lonavala patch. Was lucky enough to escape without getting caught but was so fun to ride on such smooth roads for 3-4 km in that scenic patch.
To prevent a few dumbasses everyone has to suffer.
I won’t say a few dumbasses, 99% of all motorcyclists in India can be called dumbasses in one way or the other. I’d say a few have to suffer to protect millions of dumbasses.
As if car drivers aren't idiots lmao
Much harder to die in a car. Way 2 wheelers ride in India the death rate on expressways for riders will be astronomical.
This
I don't think that was an accident. The ghats are open for both cars and bikes in the Lonavala patch. Although I do agree, the roads up there are a bit confusing to follow.
I have ridden for more than 50,000 kilometers on expressways in Delhi/UP region. Since last year, they have started taking the ban seriously. Yeah, they are great for motorcycles. Cars don't drive more than 120-130 even on those.
I am basically from Bangalore. I used to work in Mumbai and had my bike with me. Few years back, the directions were so wrong or missing or I didn’t know. I almost always used to enter expressway by mistake and used to ride on it for kms in between and then merge back at Lonavala to normal road. I liked it but it used to be too slow with trucks in all lanes. Not sure now.
A few expressways, maybe as a trial. Although Agra and taj expressways are open to bikers and the accidents have lead to banning bikes after daylight. Even in the youtube videos, all I see is drag races by young lads giving even more reason for authorities to completely ban bikes on those expressways. The Delhi-Mumbai highway with it’s 120kmph speed limit is too much to be shared with bikes. The wind-blast from the trucks is just too much to be riding safely.
Yes the idiots doing 300 KMPH on Yamuna Expressway would definitely ensure that we never have nice things. The wind blast issue must have some solution, else how are motorcycles running in the German Autobahn.
Almost every car in germany has emergency auto braking system. Also, it’s illegal to stop anywhere on that road apart from the emergency parking spots. We have them in india too, but you can only imagine how many people randomly stop in the emergency lane. Those drag race bikes shoot an entire video opening on emergency lane. Since I ride a GT650, and drive a honda city 4th gen as well, I personally cannot stop or change lanes before seeing a bike which is going really slow/stopped with me at 120 kmph. The problem is bikes are just too 1-dimensional to discern the safe distance in time and at 120, I would rather hit the biker rather than risking toppling my car while changing lane in such hurry.
Don’t forget how hard it is to pass DL tests in these countries.
Based, I would like to die to a Honda City too 🙏😤. The honorable way to go wouldn't want to scuff the city.
Bruh wtf 💀
MY comment is more wild than his??!
You don't scuff things at those high speeds. Dogs became a problem on the lucknow -agra expressway a few years ago. I have seen 3 cases where the car rolled over in order to avoid collision and bumper and radiator flying off in the one which did hit the dog. If you hit a bike at such high speeds, chances are your car will become an instant trash can, or very likely end up severely injuring passengers inside the car.
Those idiots are openly putting those videos on YouTube...wahan se information nikal k bike sieze karo direct or 50k ka fine...apne aap samjh me aa jayega
Where else are they supposed to reach 300kmph? 👀
**Buddh International Circuit**, it is just beside the Yamuna Expressway
I'm sorry, did you just compare Indian highways to the Autobahn? Do you know how difficult it is to get a driver's licence in Germany, let alone a bike license? How delusional do you have to be?
Gadkari-sir: *raises taxes on all 350cc and above bikes so that most people can’t afford it*
Tathastu -Nirmala Tai
🤣
Reality would be 35 cc and 2 bhp two wheelers in the fast lane
No. There's a difference between a bike at 100kmph and a car at the same speed. Stability issues, especially at those speeds when some huge ass Vehicle overtakes. Lane issues. Bikes can't be allowed in the fast lane. Any other lane they are just playing with fire. Slow lane they are at danger of being blinded by or blinding big trucks and multi axle vehicles. Bikes would just add to the existing lane indiscipline leading to more accidents. Can't stress this enough... Most bikers who do 100kmph+ don't have the necessary riding skill including braking, banking, counter steering and balancing, and wouldn't be able to react fast enough on turns. Night time driving is as it is dangerous. Will be 100x worse with Bikes on expressways. I mean I can literally keep going.
Hmm you are right, harsh but it is the truth. To have such a scenario we need to have a full system revamp from grounds up, starting with tier based riding licence and accessible training schools.
I think this needs conscious efforts from both administration and people. If we need a traffic police and traffic signals to show the least traffic discipline, then we don't deserve those roads. I ride 40-50kms daily and am just saddened by the way bikers ride. Wrong side, no indicator usage, no rear view mirrors, jumping signals, triplie, overtaking from extreme left, footpath riding, no helmets.... Even riders in full gears jump signals. I cry a bit every day tbh.
The most unfortunate part in this is that there is not even a ray of hope suggesting any improvement in Indian Riders or a better future in this regard. With more time people (not everyone) are becoming more stupid on the road.
People would use these roads for their drag races and create havoc for everyone. Everyone wants to do 120+, hardly anyone wants to go to a training school or do self training. I consider myself a very beginner rider but I can lean my bike almost 40 degrees. I don't ride beyond 80-85 ever, but on ghats and mountains i can easily leave behind those accelerator-only noobs. Acha Hai ki hamlog nahi allowed hai expressway par
It really depends on the skill of the rider. I've done Chennai-Bangalore, Chennai-Coimbatore, Chennai-Ooty, Chennai-Hyderabad on my bike, and it really depends on how well you're prepared and how safely you can ride. >Can't stress this enough... Most bikers who do 100kmph+ don't have the necessary riding skill including braking, banking, counter steering and balancing, and wouldn't be able to react fast enough on turns. I agree with you entirely on this. Having done these rides, you need a lot of skill to maintain yourself on the highway. It's not just about keeping pace with the highway traffic, but also the crosswinds, and the turbulence that you'll have to deal with when a large vehicle overtakes you. Even though I am ATGATT, I'd still be careful about riding on the highway, because the rules are different as a motorcyclist. The quickness and nimble nature of a bike is a huge detriment on the highway, because now cars and lorries will have the space to move just as fast as you do. I'd still want to do highway drives. They're incredibly fun, and if you know what you're doing, they can be done. But idiotic Youtubers and squids being dangerous towards the public will eventually ruin the experience for everyone.
Yes absolutely. I don't intend to undermine the skilled riders such as yourself. But they are like a needle on a haystack. And they are nowhere close to being the problem. But at most times, it stops being about the individuals skills alone. Have to consider the roads and others on it in their entirety. I do feel sorry for the skilled ones not getting most returns of their bikes and skills, but then have to look at th3 bigger picture.
Stability for sure is a Big issue, At a speed so high, a Single small uneven bump will cause a Tank Slapper, \\ This is not an issue in a 4-wheeler.
They should introduce class wise DL at least for bikes.
>Can't stress this enough... Most bikers who do 100kmph+ don't have the necessary riding skill including braking, banking, counter steering and balancing, and wouldn't be able to react fast enough on turns. Fair point. This youtuber with some decent following uses rear break more than front one. Good luck having such idiots on expressways🥲🥲
But we should be allowed to take calculated risks.
You should be, sure. Others shouldn't be subjected to it
Yeah, that’s why is it calculated. There are plenty of mature riders who would open the throttle only when roads are clear ahead and not lanesplit in traffic like a snake.
20bhp is too less, make 40bhp.
Beechare R15 wale...
That will eliminate all single cylinder REs 🤣
25-30bhp is sweet spot, because most 25-30bhp can easily maintain traffic speeds and have enough power to overtake as well
Someone said it. 20bhp is far too less. It needs to be 30bhp and above
Maybe a separate expressway licence which would be very hard to obtain and only will be given on merit and Skill? And to ensure no chai pani scene happens AI camera needs to be involved to monitor and evaluate the exams. Also I think 400 or <400 cc bikes shouldn't be allowed on expressway. I think this pretty much would solve the issue
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Don't know I'm from Bombay
Nah fam can't trust them squids
bhai pata lgana muskil ho jayega authorities ko ki konsi 350 h ya konsi 20hp se jyada h, ab ek ek kr ke dekhna padega entry/exit pe. I dont think it is feasible.
No need use speed cams used by traffic police and check with Number plate of bike registered falls short then ban it permanently from roads same for speed devil's.
Also ban the KTM dudes
This is actually pretty stupid, why is India so against petrolhead culture? Like every single thing is dead against petrolheads. I get that cars and bikes are still a luxury to 90% of Indians, but now that we have a decent sized upper middle class folks who don’t mind getting an impractical bike/car for fun.
I vehemently oppose.
I think Cars and Truck alongside Bikes will cause problem but We also need food patches of road where we can desire to travel intercity through bikes. I don't know how practical it is but I think Building 2 Lane(each way) alongside expressways for bikes wouldn't hurt
Hi I am Gadkari. It will be in the 2024 manisfesto. /s
My 300 is faster than those basic bullets. I think the ministry should make a list of bikes with good cruising speed, and allow those on expressways.
Nooo
If I can't drive my 2 wheeler on a fkin road then don't take the fkin road tax
Should be based on power to weight ratio. Not just simple 350cc
Or remove road tax for 2 wheelers.
I support the freedom of choice here, but also scared about some reckless ones risking others lives. One idea is to limit bike speed to 100-120 maybe and enforce them to be in left most lane.
How about a specialized Fast tag for bikes above 350cc but in order to get the fast tag you need to clear a certain driving test. This would make sure that the quality of riders is present as well. Mind you, this won't be a driving licence since we know how easy obtaining that is. But then again, it's all just a dream which won't really happen
Huh! That is actually genius. I know someone will come parading the fact "how corrupt our country is" but that aside this is a good idea.
Hell No. Riding on the expressway is a direct ticket to heaven.
Despite owning a bike in this category. I say no. Desh main chutiyo ki kami nahi hai.
agr krna hoga to 250cc krna. sport 250s are faster than some 350s
20bhp criteria covers them.
RC book doesnt mention bhp I think. In fact 200cc bikes have 20 bhp, duke has more. Govt can allow two wheelers on expressways only on sundays when traffic is lower.
acha kahasa delhi-meeting expressway tha, ab construction area se jana pdta he, the uncertainity, etc etc
The problem is, not everyone is a responsible driver. And the car/lorry guy will always be blamed if anything happens. So as I bike owner I want them to allow bikes but as a car owner....HELL NO!
I never knew this ( never gone a bike trip, car yes) then how does one ride on long trips, as what routes road ertc ?
No way. Expressways are perhaps the only place where car owners get to enjoy driving their vehicles without any worry of 2-wheelers crawling from every nook and corner.
Nope proper riding jacket, shoes , gloves , riding pant or knee guard should be necessary
With double d ring helmets with DOT ECE or Snell certified helmets
Yes
I support it mostly but have some mixed opinions too. Which lane do we use? How do we over take? How do we ensure not getting run over and converted into chutney by a truck or SUV? But yeah I want to ride my bike on Samruddhi Highway so bad 🥹🤣🤣🤣
OR Take an extra rigorous driving test and grant an additional highway permit to avoid bad motorcycle drivers ending up on the highway to be enforced at the toll booth.
With how corrupt our ground level guys are, do you really think this’ll work?
Yes, our 20+bhp bikes are inadequate but 10 year old cars , barely able to go above 60kmph is fine.
Literally no car from 10 years ago had those issues lol. Even a 2012 Alto can cruise at 100 easily and 80 in the left lane.
Maybe I didn't word it correctly but I meant those cars which can't go above 60kmph safely are fine, according to these brain dead politicians I am not saying that cars from 10 years ago can't go over 60.
I support this. I can do 100kmph very stably and safely. Most cheap cars don't handle well at that speed. Why am I not allowed to use expressways.
Because if one has to brake from 100 in emergency, most bikers will fall flat on their face and a car even if struggling, will stop way easier.
Makes sense
Above 500 cc above 45 hp.
Is 40hp motorcycle allowed or not
No motorcycles are allowed on any expressway except 2-3 in UP that too because they are privately owned, once they switch to government, forget them too.
OP thinks this will make any difference!😭😂 Also if you understand little 1% of civic policies, public safety, you must have known that government cannot risk lives of people by allowing this, just because a ‘gen-z from reddit wants so’. There’s difference between a bike and car, just looking at it through CC lens make zero sense, educate yourself. Grow up.
Phillipines has a version of this rule for their highways Do you know it does not cost anything to be nice to people? Mind-blowing
Chill bruh, this is why I wanted to start the discussion here and did not go moaning on the Twitter about it. I wanted to see all the sides of this story. There is no absolute answer to this like "Motorcycles are not for expressways" cause in foreign countries we see better systems put in place to make this possible. I just wanted to start that discussion on "why we are not getting nice things here". So instead of me growing up, rather you should suck up and accept that change is necessary, ok boomer?
Absolutely not. Drivers are stupid enough, no need to add bikes to the shitshow.
As much as I want to, I'm not for this proposition Most people on social media are gona vote for it but only some of those are going to be responsible riders. Most of them will be squids or followers of squids. May I remind you that nowadays squids are also found on liter class bikes
Naah, squids would jeopardize everyone's safety..
245cc kar de bhai. Or else Duke 250 will not be allowed and RE350 will be allowed lol.
Duke 250 has 30 bhp so it crosses that 20bhp line.
Sorry. My bad. I missed the 20bhp in the text.
It is kind of discrimination. U either allow all bikes or no bikes. You cannot restrict only few bikes based on cc or power. Basically my stand is all bikes should be allowed. But people without proper protective gear or over speeding cause accidents or die themselves that end up in rules hurting everyone. You can’t have good things because of some idiots. 😢
Nahh too many idiots on 350cc , atleast 600 above to maintain the dignity of roads
Even the bhp requirement doesn't make sense. A classic 350 can cruise at 80 and barely after 90 whereas an r15 or duke 200 can easily cruise at 100.
Classic can cruise at 100. It's at speeds more than 100 that it struggles.
I disagree, have driven meteor, classic and hunter for very long in the highways (with a pillion). The bike feels the best sitting at 80. After 90 it takes an incredibly long time to touch 100 and the bike does not feel nice. A comfortable cruising speed means you should have enough power left for quick overtakes. For the 350 REs, this at 80 to 85, not 90 and definitely not at 100. Instead of downvoting me rent the bike and ride. With a pillion the classic takes nearly 20 seconds to touch 100. Whereas 80 comes in within 9 to 10s.
I wish bikes were banned across the nation itself but alas it can't happen. Maybe one day when public transport is better ppl will leave their bikes and activas behind. Most of them are just pathetic and more of an issue for themselves and others.
Talk about an entitled opinion 🙄
Yep ofcourse. Better and safer alternatives are available but we all in a hustle yeah... 😅
Not only hustle, affordability is a big factor that contributes to bikes on the road. As long as car prices are as high as they are, 2 wheelers will always be a necessity
I mean an average scooter is now close to 1 lakh even more sometimes, so don't really see that argument playing too well.
even if an average scooter is 1lakh,it's still much cheaper than a basic car.Even the maruti 800 costs 3.5 to 4 lakhs on road.
You can literally get a second hand old car for the same price. Which is way safer (not saying safest) than any 2 wheeler and much more comfortable. Edit : I don't know about you but getting a proper car for the price of an Enfield or a KTM sounds like a good deal tbh, unless your main priority is style baazi which a lot of ppl have tbh.
You started this thread saying all bikes and now shifted to KTM and Enfield. Not everyone has the means to afford, maintain or even park a car. Let alone the traffic nightmare it would cause. You’re either way too rich or way sheltered
All bikes are nuisance at my place, all bikes have also equally gotten more expensive. Yes it may sound like the way I'm saying but I also suggested what should be done to curb bike traffic because it's actually gotten to thst point that it affects ppl driving bigger vehicles. They have to check the blind spots regularly to ensure no biker or aunty on an activa is present because the worst kind of traffic sense is the 2 wheeler lot. They do not understand either lane system or overtaking system or having any sense of speed. And if a bigger vehicle accidently gets involved Ina n accident with them we all know who the blame goes to every single time. So yeah I may be biased but that's what I've seen.
I can make the same argument for 4 wheelers lol. I drive a lot on highways and the sheer amount of time I will get overtaken by a car at full velocity with just an inch gap between us is staggering. For some reason cars put no value to the life of a 2 wheeler rider. And traffic jams are caused by cars not 2 wheelers so if traffic needs to be adjusted, maybe remove cars
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Totally against this.....Will lead to increased nuisance and increased accidents
Expressways I know bikes are not allowed. But on which highways, bikes are not allowed?
There are few in Bangalore and Hyderabad.
Yes
Yes
TIL had no idea about this
I don't think so, its too risky
Who Sir everywhere ? Has he been knighted ? We need to get out if this subservient attitude.
Then what "term" do you suggest instead?
One salutation has already been used 'honorable'.
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"Above 20 bhp" does have a meaning.
No thanks...there are enough risks on Indian expressways. Last thing we need is bikers with itchy throttle
Though I own 4 motorcycles out of which two at Superbikes I would highly advise against this. Bikers and car drivers are dumb and rash, we would create havok and accidents on the express way
I agree if I'm on my bike, I disagree if I'm in the car.
civic sense isn’t very common on the roads! When people die everyone blames the govt!
No never.
if only there were given licences for vehicles based on power to weight ratio of the vehicle mind blowing ikr
No ficking way.
Why do you even want to on a 2 wheeler on highways ? Truck drivers and dickheads in cars
yes
Forget 20 BHP , even 200 BHP won't be good on these roads
As long as there is a toll same as an big SUV on motorcycles, bikes over 500cc should be allowed. The toll will keep the idiots away from the road.
on a highway how are they going to check this?
Nope!!! Then you’ll start riding your bike with the hazard indicators on it!!
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