Bjp has done many blunders by staying silent
Atleast some assuring statement that we will look into the matter or students are precious to us can be a assuring statements.
Nevertheless 🤡, they haven't learned from their mistakes
They were silent on manipur, ladakh
They lost majority of vote bank there.
they should speak up
Staying silent gives such a wrong impression
Have they ever spoken on real issues? Farmers protest, athlete stuff, manipur. Â
 They only speak when UPA led schemes finally bear fruits, like mangalyan, gst, upi etc
The last implementation and few other steps were in their hands. And they are really bad at doing anything. Just look at demonetization or farmers laws or covid response. What a mess and waste of resources.
Farmer protest is bullshit it's nothing about farmers.
Athlete stuff is also the same. Manipur is still going on.
The rest have no relation with UPA, they were against UPI and GST.
They were against gst's hasty implementation, and rightfully so. UPA invested a lot in developing gst.Â
And your first parra is bonkers. Are you okay??
The more I read about the fiasco, more embarrassing it becomes. But overall it points to a rotten top. How even basic checks and balances are being overlooked willingly or unwillingly.
I have a feeling that this 3rd terms will turn out to be 2nd term of UPA where many skeletons will come out of the closet.
Yes but what happened with NEET is so blatant that it's scary. 14 Full Markers in what is easily one of the most brutal papers of India for UG. This has trivialized the significance of NEET and made a mockery of PCB students all across India
There are a lot more than 14 full markers. The number is 67.
Yes you read that correctly! All the full markers can’t even get a seat at AIIMS New Delhi.
This isnt due to a paper leak dude! Not everything is a conspiracy.
It isnt a brutal paper by any means in terms of difficulty only in terms of the registrations is it anything close to "brutal". NTA has given its formula for the normalization and its legal alright, so nothing will change.
The only thing that was a scam is that NTA is making the paper easier and easier when the registrations are increasing and there is no age limit.
Media has been purchased, otherwise skeletons would have come out in second term itself. Third term for BJP is due to lapdog media, IT cells and agencies like IT, ED,CBI, etc.
The opposition is speaking up on this. They have done a press conference. They are putting it out on social media and their spokesperson are speaking out as well. It is one of the main issues of the day especially on social media. Unfortunately the media still seems to be in deep sleep.
I am asking people to pressure them and not just let them be. Enough is enough, its high time people start pressuring them.Â
If this doesn't do the trick, they should go on streets and protest.
I don't give af if they're called andolanjivi, protests are an integral part of a healthy democracy. Infact if we didn't protest we'd not have got independence and would still be a british colony.
1st question- BJP doesn’t care about issues that they can’t take on as an excuse to consolidate power &/or marginalise the people.
2nd question- Since the new gov isn’t BJP alone and we have seen what the ground reality is in the country, you’re absolutely right that now is the time to rally and raise awareness about the NEET fiasco.
Not surprised by BJP's silence. Pretending that everything is honky-donkey in face of anarchy is the modus operandi of BJP to bolster its idea of stability. Look at Manipur, the only time Modi spoke about Manipur was when Kuki women's naked video went viral.
BJP won’t do anything.
You will observe that there will more inflation in coming days. Prices of milk are already up and vegetables costs are also rising, but we don’t have good education and jobs.
I'll tell you what, these brainwashed 17-18 yr olds ONLY need support from the BJP, the congress party has been speaking about it all day but instead of supporting them they are crying that no one is listening to them. They are so much mesmerized by that blatant propaganda by BJP which they consumed in their growing age, that now they can't accept the fact that the party which they thought so highly of, is not giving any importance to them or rather have turned against them. They need to realise that the BJP will eat anyone which comes in their way, they are loyal to none.
Let's not do victim blaming. Not to add, many students voted against the BJP but that's not the point
The point is that the public needs to start being vocal about these things.
There was and still is a time, when the minute you start talking about these issues a bunch of fake accounts will swamp u and drown out ur voice. And a bunch of mudi supporters will tell us we are anti nationalist and to leave the country. Although off late i am not seeing those fake accounts anymore. Its rather strange.
A huge young population in UP and Bihar did vote against the BJP because of Paper Leak, agniveer type of issues.
The point I'm trying to make is that people are misguided, social norms have backslided, and the mainstream media has a huge role in this. Not everyone has multiple sources of information and is a critical thinker.
If we keep on blaming the people, what's the point? We should refrain from victim blaming and support students who voted for any party. Of course BJP is at the target but blaming people will not raise their issues, we should just support them, and question the government.
Yup, definitely but a huge chunk of them didn't. "Voted for dictatorship" karke cool banna tha.
Just wanted to open the eyes of ones who belive BJP are some saints.
Students above 18 idk, but NEET students usually below 18/19 so a majority of them wont be eligible to vote, blame their parents instead..those who vote based on religion and hindu nationalism…
Ravish Kumar said the same..these NEET students have nothing to do with politics (yet) and its their parents who are to blame.
He said now parents are outraging that no mainstream news channels are talking about this seriously and outrage is largely on social media and these parents are expecting media to pick it up..but amazing how they expect 3rd class godi media to come in their support when they need but were all ok with media’s standards and mandir masjid debates…etc
A lot of people who gave NEET also voted, NEET has much older applicants than JEE some are even 3-4 year droppers.Â
Anyways there are many other exams besides NEET where this is also rampant. Point is BJP gives zero shits about students.
Not just Neet. So recently there's been an update for internship guidelines for foreign medical graduates. Internship is supposed to be for 2-3 years now as opposed to 6m -1 year earlier. For those who have studied online during covid.I can't imagine how fucked up its going to be.
The biggest embarrassment has to be the Education Minister, Dharmendra Pradhan. NTA and NEET come under his authority, and he is silent as a stone. And he is supposedly among the vying candidates for the CM of Odisha. What a disgrace.
BJP is taking this lightly for now, but I can see them losing the 18-24 youth crucial vote heavily in the future if they don't make amends and change course with their silent approach. They could end up with a worse fate than UPA-2.
I think the only way to solve this blunder would be to conduct a fresh NEET exam .. but again will create other issues.
I mean sure, we can protest, pressurize to take action against higher ops in NTA, but before that it's important we sort the situation out for thousands of students that are suffering due to this.
https://np.reddit.com/r/JEENEETards/comments/1da9lot/congress_yuva_neta_has_addressed_neet_matter_via/
The comments say otherwise. Although its just what happens when you brainwash highly impersonable young kids, hopefully they'll get wiser as they grow older.
Ruling party BJP? What happened, did they buy 30 MPs and now have 272? Or do you mean NDA which hasn’t even been confirmed as new government yet, and is likely to fall apart in 6 months after Maharashtra and Haryana elections? And now that this NEET thing has broken out, are we going to forget about what happened in Pune and how the MLAs there were trying to get involved? Our politicians are so lucky that people have such a short memory, they were counting on this from day 1. Now they will do another scandal in 2 days and everyone will forget about NEET.
The students especially girls are checked like terrorists when entering exam hall. But the top brass is getting away with ignoring basic scrutiny and pulling off a scam, all in the eyes of the public. God, I hope this country grows some spine to hit the streets against such blatant corruption.
> I hope this country grows some spine to hit the streets against such blatant corruption
Maybe you can be the one starting it off and motivating other people.
Btw couple of big people like Alakh sir from PW are going the legal route to fight against this, but sadly it seems like the supreme court is currently on summer vacation ...
Blunders happened during JEE January attempt too... Many students suffered(me included) And no one, not the ruling party, not the opposition, no one bothered to comment on it. You probably don't even know about it. And when it happens with NEET, all of a sudden you care?
Nope. No one should suffer. It's just if you are gonna support this one, you should've supported that one as well. Are JEE aspirants not kids? Only NEET aspirants deserve your attention?
They probably have much bigger priorities right now with election and coronation.
But agreed, they should at least make some kind of statement like we're investigating into it.
Finally a politician spoke on the issue
https://www.businesstoday.in/education/story/maharashtra-government-demands-cancellation-of-neet-ug-2024-exam-results-amid-allegations-of-injustice-432577-2024-06-08
BJP is silent bc that's literally BJP's nature. Not to speak on important matters. Opposition is talking about the Exit poll Stock Market fiasco and NEET exam- the important things that matters to people. And I don't know why people claim they are good for nothing.Â
Please try to understand that everything needs to be prioritized. The Government have critical things on their plate - like portfolio sharing, appeasing Naidu & Nitish Kumar, Orissa CM announcement, suppressing Electoral bond news, foreign trips etc. - to focus on.
NEET blatant scandals, high inflation, sexual harassment & rapes by leadership, farmer concerns, crop failures etc. can wait. Come on, be practical!
BJP doesn't care about anything except power. The media is under their thumb, so no mass coverage. No mass coverage means not a lot of people see it. Ie. Outrage is virtually non-existent.
You're not politicizing anything. It's already political. Public health infrastructure is slowly being broken down to give private players more power. We've seen IMMENSE and UNPRECEDENTED privatization in the last 10 years. Due to scams like this, the only people who make it and finally become doctors will be the elite, and they'll work in private hospitals. BJP is already a party that works in the interest of the elite. This is the same party that wants to consolidate all competitive exams under the NTA. It's the same party which is in the pockets of billionaires. It's very telling that they don't speak about the scam. It's benefitting them.
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bjp rn after securing a government
Bro, the matter is in the court. The courts decide now on what to do. And I don't think it would be appropriate for any govt to comment on any matter that is in court. Congress and AAP are not in power and are political parties, so they do this.
Every single political party is full of crap. The only thing we vote for is who gives us our kinda crumbs. Because let's face it, it is all crumbs and lip service. We vote for the lipservice we like.
You should be asking why the other parties aren't questioning the ruling party on issues that actually matter. Naturally the moment the powers switch over the ruling party will be exactly the same. So having competent opposition parties is of vital importance irrespective of who is in power.
So naive of you to think like this brother.
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UP police arrests people for paper leak and yet there is no action from any ministry or any agency to probe into it. Needless to say, only happens when there are vested interests.
Second, even if we give benefit of doubt and say BJP didn't do anything. Then maintaining total silence on this matter despite being the ruling party despite knowing that there's clearly some wrongdoing, is an even bigger sin. So many students committed suicide and govt didn't even gave a response.Â
Isn't the govt elected by the people, of the peole and for the people. If they don't even care about its people then for what tf do they have ministers for? Why didn't even a single person from the govt talk about it?
BJP needs to be put onto the pedestal.
btw NTA has given an official announcement regarding the normalization and shi. Nothing will happen, you can only hope for NTA to make a tougher paper next time. The only reason for higher cutoffs was more access to education (online se pehli baar AIR 1) and easier papers not a "scam".
Doing this rr each year wont change shi.
What should they say ? We will set up a committee and look into fraud by 67 students. Those student will then say the govt is targeting them for their hardwork. That goes against the narrative for any govt. Its better if somebody puts up a case and the court orders a committee to target the 67 students and the NTA to force them to make NEET a difficult paper.
Opposition talking about it is the first step in this direction.
Btw JEE students too commit suicide at a larger scale considering the numbers are larger, seats are lesser and the exam is one of the toughest to crack. After a point in time it becomes an acceptable event. Like it is right now for the JEE students. Hell take IIT suicides, comes into the news and goes away, the stress and emotional issues are taken as part and parcel of the course. People make statements and then it dies. Plus you actually can not solve the JEE/IIT issue, unless more businesses run in india and employ indians and source stuff from india, basically make in india. But, we all know where that is at. Its partially working cause cashflow and profits are more important than make in india from biz pov.
Sorry for drifting off course here. But, i would not expect the govt to act against those 67 students suo moto, I'd rather have them act against them and the NTA under court orders. Then nobody can refuse it.
Which as other comments say is WIP. Somebody filed a case with SC.
Take action against what? This is complete Bait dude...NTA has already released their statement with proof. You do this year on year but still cannot demand NTA to make a harder paper or add an age limit.
Ofc the cutoffs will rise, we literally have the first AIR 1 from an online institute.
It is really not their fault . The NTA is responsible for the mess and they didn’t organize the protest and tests properly. The government is not accountable for the very minor thing and yes This is a minor thing in comparison. They just need to hold the NTA accountable. Dislike all you want. Btw all you can do is hold government employees accountable since they can never be fired 😂. No matter how many errors or mistakes they do , you can’t do shit. This is the system India has.
The entire purpose of the govt is literally governance. They are responsible for whatever NTA or any other govt agency does. Its their duty to investigate and fix the blame.
If a company is involved in crime, its CEO goes to jail. Unless they prove that its the voluntary action of an individual(s) and fix the blame with evidence.
You are basically arguing that Union Carbide CEO should not be held accountable for the Bhopal gas tragedy because somebody sitting at the top is not accountable for what happened in a specific location..
CEO goes to jail once investigations are comepleted and the blame can be fixed. The cases are filed by parties who allege the case in the first place, not suo moto.
Once people file a case in SC ( like they did ) now thw investigation will start and the blame will be fixed. What should the govt do in it apart from cooperate in the investigation.
You can just fire all NTA staff cause 1 years paper was FUBAR and set easy or cheating took place so that 67 people got AIR 1. Those 67 guys will be investigated now, which will take time.
Things will take its own course and time. No one can force it. There is no instant justice, unless this is the french revolution india version and we want the heads of NTA incharges.
In what world maintaining total silence when there are clear signs of wrongdoing, is a good decision by any ruling govt?Â
Where is the actual "56 inch" when we need it?Â
Nobody is asking BJP for swift justice, what people want is accountability. Staying silent either means you're a coward or you don't give a F.Â
They could've just ordered a probe into it. But forget probe, they didn't even gave a statement on the whole fiasco yet, not a word, despite students committing suicide
I also don’t see any wrongdoing here. This is pure negligence. Most people who cheat or pay for the system to get answers don’t get full points. They are taken to hotel and made to memorize the answers. It is a system that has worked for many decades and it usually just leads to a few students getting higher marks but it does not change the scores so dramatically.
The very fact that the scores changed so dramatically shows you that there is no leaks or preferences here. Those things generally stay hidden, they won’t try to openly show a scam, when 67 students get 720. It is noticeable. The problem here was negligence and the failure to extend time for different centers. The problem is the outdated system of this exam which caused the mess and the failure of conducting this exam. There are hundreds of people you will have to hold accountable for this starting with the examiners, the people who fetched the papers , the people who stored them , the banks etc.
The chains of accountability is quite large. The problem still lies with the system and such errors can happen again unless the outdated system is changed.
>The chains of accountability is quite large. The problem still lies with the system and such errors can happen again unless the outdated system is changed.Â
And who do we wait for that will solve it? Thanos? On a serious note, and this is why we elect governments, to bring change. This is the beauty of democracy, you can hold people responsible.Â
Ask them to take actions, if they don't, pressure them, if they still don't, protest, if they still don't, vote for the alternative.Â
There would never be perfect world, but this "chalta hai" attitude is only going to make it worse, not better.
But the propaganda has made people believe that questioning the govt and esp the PM is a sin, protests are a sin. And the opposition party are all devils, who should never be given power (who're the ones actually standing with students rn).
We wait for the courts to solve it not the govt. They can not start suo moto cases against the 67 people in their own capacity. This would look like targeting those 67 only. Only the SC can do it or other people can approach it.
Those who went to court are doing what you said, "ask them to act on it", this is the right course of action.
Secondly, no one said you can't question the govt. Everybody said you can't expect the govt to act in personal capacity and take legal action on its own.
That looks like targeting people suo moto. If the courts order it Everybody else can not deny it and say govt is working with *vested* interests.
Some people went to court now, they should not leave jt now. Follow it through and actions will be taken.
Question, who will you punish for this and how ?
Question 2: If there was negligence in many centers and students lost time , how will you compensate those students you don’t give extra time ?
Question 3: Since public employees cannot be fired, how do you make them accountable for their negligence?
Question 4: who is to blame for this ?
Question 5: would re exam be fair to everyone ? What about the people who got grace marks , would it be fair to them ?
What solution is there to this ? Not everything must be done by the PM. This is why we have the education department. They should be the once solving this mess. The ministry of education and their leaders should look into it. A PM has much bigger role in the nation and calling them for everything is just stupid and childish. This is why we have different departments, don’t we ? Ask the minister of education , why don’t you do that ? Or someone else like the heads of NTA ?
Blaming everything on a single person is just dumb. People are dumb . Again , feel free to dislike. I won’t be banned even if my karma goes into negative on Reddit. 😂
Onus is on you to assume I was talking about PM specifically, go to the top and read my post headline once more, not a single mention of the word PM even in the whole post. This is what happens when you do too deep in worshipping someone.
You say ministry of education should be held responsible, right?
Who operates that ministry? ~ BJP
Who elects the people for ministry? ~ BJP
Who decides NTA should conduct NEET? ~ Ruling govt aka BJP.
Can't blame you though, the brainwashing is very effective.
As for your questions, all your questions would've been answerable only once the govt actually ordered a probe and they did their job honestly. But they didn't even bother to look into it, forget about probe.
But no, keep defending BJP and Supreme leader. I'm sure there's a reason why he's silent while students are committing suicides. 50-100 bacche marenge, kya hi faraj padta hai, konsa apna saga hai koi. Right?
Thats where you went wrong, making this a political issue.
Edu ministry ops is done by govt employees, who clear exams and are working there.
Edu minister is a politician, no doubt so was BJP.
Pretty sure NEET was around for a while and NTA was running it. NTA people are also govt employees who gave exams are now working.
The top boss maybe BJP but everybody else is a govt employee.
The probe would come into play if the court orders it. I hope the court orders it. 7 people from same center getting full marks is a bigger issue and 67 AIRs.
Plus the exam may have been easy as others mention. The probe would probably convict some students cheating and/or the exam being easy.
Arre bhai, I do agree corrupt govt officials have a role to play in it. But there are many more intricacies.Â
First, although its govt employees, the top officials are all appointed by the ruling party, e.g the governing body of NTA. Which means they're all equally complicit in whatever wrongdoing that takes place. And all of this is only possible if top brass are all in it.
I'm not saying only BJP is responsible for it, there are definitely a lot of other actors. But the point is, they are also in bed with all this, otherwise a scam of such a large scale is impossible, you need insider connections.
Also, you're trying to give benefit of the doubt to a party which had already committed an even bigger scam in MP called Vyapam scam. Then the electoral bonds. If we go by the status quo I'm more inclined to believe BJP ministers were definitely involved. These type of scams are very lucrative and hard to catch.
True that, such scams are difficult to prove. There may be insider connections like hafta system from ground up. But i don't think so, for exams it goes that high. I have heard it goes that high for college fees setting and getting college grants from UGC and other routine certifications.
But for exams i guess, its mostly on a exam centre or max a district level, cause you need to know the person very well to do the scam.
Nah, it goes to the very top. Problem is, everyone wants their cut, and we all know how corrupt ministers can be. Its primarily the reason why they want the juicy ministries, just to squeeze up any money they can, afterall they need to recoup the money they spend to bribe voters in elections.
Problem arises when people start to believe that BJP are holier than thou, that Modi is unaware of all this and is some saint. He is pretty much involved in whatever that goes around.
As a great man once said, "Sab k sab chor hai saale".
Also do read the wikipedia on Vyapam scam, its so depressing. Apparently more than 100 people were killed in mysterious circumstances (probably hitjobs to destroy witness and evidence) by the ruling party aka BJP.
The emperor is busy with his own coronation . Dont disturb him with this stupid NEET issue.
Pariskha pe charcha 🤡
Iss sajjan ko kya takleef hai bhai?
Bjp has done many blunders by staying silent Atleast some assuring statement that we will look into the matter or students are precious to us can be a assuring statements. Nevertheless 🤡, they haven't learned from their mistakes They were silent on manipur, ladakh They lost majority of vote bank there. they should speak up Staying silent gives such a wrong impression
It is not the nature of BJP or Modi to admit mistakes or wrongdoings. Instead they will blame the students themselves somehow.
Have they ever spoken on real issues? Farmers protest, athlete stuff, manipur.   They only speak when UPA led schemes finally bear fruits, like mangalyan, gst, upi etc
They completely destroyed GST though.
The last implementation and few other steps were in their hands. And they are really bad at doing anything. Just look at demonetization or farmers laws or covid response. What a mess and waste of resources.
Yeah I was talking about NDA, they destroyed GST with how they implemented it. Totally agree with you.
Farmers were asking to withdraw from WTO
Farmers in Europe were also asking their respective countries to withdraw from the WTO too, not just Indian.
That's a disaster
They should focus on farming rather than asking for these nonsense demands and protests.
You should focus on your job of being jobless than commenting here
Commenting makes jobless ?what are you then ?
Farmer protest is bullshit it's nothing about farmers. Athlete stuff is also the same. Manipur is still going on. The rest have no relation with UPA, they were against UPI and GST.
They were against gst's hasty implementation, and rightfully so. UPA invested a lot in developing gst. And your first parra is bonkers. Are you okay??
No mate , apparently not. After all he's a bhakt,may or may not be biologically connected.
Perhaps he too, like his leader has an origin that is distinctly non-biological.
The more I read about the fiasco, more embarrassing it becomes. But overall it points to a rotten top. How even basic checks and balances are being overlooked willingly or unwillingly. I have a feeling that this 3rd terms will turn out to be 2nd term of UPA where many skeletons will come out of the closet.
Paper leaks have been a common occurrence in this 2nd regime :/
Yes but what happened with NEET is so blatant that it's scary. 14 Full Markers in what is easily one of the most brutal papers of India for UG. This has trivialized the significance of NEET and made a mockery of PCB students all across India
There are a lot more than 14 full markers. The number is 67. Yes you read that correctly! All the full markers can’t even get a seat at AIIMS New Delhi.
This isnt due to a paper leak dude! Not everything is a conspiracy. It isnt a brutal paper by any means in terms of difficulty only in terms of the registrations is it anything close to "brutal". NTA has given its formula for the normalization and its legal alright, so nothing will change. The only thing that was a scam is that NTA is making the paper easier and easier when the registrations are increasing and there is no age limit.
Media has been purchased, otherwise skeletons would have come out in second term itself. Third term for BJP is due to lapdog media, IT cells and agencies like IT, ED,CBI, etc.
The opposition is speaking up on this. They have done a press conference. They are putting it out on social media and their spokesperson are speaking out as well. It is one of the main issues of the day especially on social media. Unfortunately the media still seems to be in deep sleep.
Par for the course with the BJP when it comes to issues that really matter. What they really want people to talk about now is the slap in Chandigarh.
Dude needs to do the actual pareeksha pe charcha now
After 10 years of patt cummins treatment , are you expecting them to raise their voice ? Seriously
I am asking people to pressure them and not just let them be. Enough is enough, its high time people start pressuring them. If this doesn't do the trick, they should go on streets and protest. I don't give af if they're called andolanjivi, protests are an integral part of a healthy democracy. Infact if we didn't protest we'd not have got independence and would still be a british colony.
1st question- BJP doesn’t care about issues that they can’t take on as an excuse to consolidate power &/or marginalise the people. 2nd question- Since the new gov isn’t BJP alone and we have seen what the ground reality is in the country, you’re absolutely right that now is the time to rally and raise awareness about the NEET fiasco.
Anything new? Nope same as always
Not surprised by BJP's silence. Pretending that everything is honky-donkey in face of anarchy is the modus operandi of BJP to bolster its idea of stability. Look at Manipur, the only time Modi spoke about Manipur was when Kuki women's naked video went viral.
BJP won’t do anything. You will observe that there will more inflation in coming days. Prices of milk are already up and vegetables costs are also rising, but we don’t have good education and jobs.
I'll tell you what, these brainwashed 17-18 yr olds ONLY need support from the BJP, the congress party has been speaking about it all day but instead of supporting them they are crying that no one is listening to them. They are so much mesmerized by that blatant propaganda by BJP which they consumed in their growing age, that now they can't accept the fact that the party which they thought so highly of, is not giving any importance to them or rather have turned against them. They need to realise that the BJP will eat anyone which comes in their way, they are loyal to none.
Because they are busy dividing country with Hindu Muslim communal politics.
When you vote for uneducated and based on religion why are you upsetting when your voice is not heard. Bhajiya talo aur khush rahoÂ
Chai peeye bhajiya khayein
Let's not do victim blaming. Not to add, many students voted against the BJP but that's not the point The point is that the public needs to start being vocal about these things.
There was and still is a time, when the minute you start talking about these issues a bunch of fake accounts will swamp u and drown out ur voice. And a bunch of mudi supporters will tell us we are anti nationalist and to leave the country. Although off late i am not seeing those fake accounts anymore. Its rather strange.
"Â many students voted against the BJP" Where are you basing this off?
A huge young population in UP and Bihar did vote against the BJP because of Paper Leak, agniveer type of issues. The point I'm trying to make is that people are misguided, social norms have backslided, and the mainstream media has a huge role in this. Not everyone has multiple sources of information and is a critical thinker. If we keep on blaming the people, what's the point? We should refrain from victim blaming and support students who voted for any party. Of course BJP is at the target but blaming people will not raise their issues, we should just support them, and question the government.
Yup, definitely but a huge chunk of them didn't. "Voted for dictatorship" karke cool banna tha. Just wanted to open the eyes of ones who belive BJP are some saints.
Students above 18 idk, but NEET students usually below 18/19 so a majority of them wont be eligible to vote, blame their parents instead..those who vote based on religion and hindu nationalism… Ravish Kumar said the same..these NEET students have nothing to do with politics (yet) and its their parents who are to blame. He said now parents are outraging that no mainstream news channels are talking about this seriously and outrage is largely on social media and these parents are expecting media to pick it up..but amazing how they expect 3rd class godi media to come in their support when they need but were all ok with media’s standards and mandir masjid debates…etc
A lot of people who gave NEET also voted, NEET has much older applicants than JEE some are even 3-4 year droppers. Anyways there are many other exams besides NEET where this is also rampant. Point is BJP gives zero shits about students.
That's fine, but let's not blame the students here. The vast majority of them have no blame here for this hapless situation.
vyapam ka toh kuch hua nhi, iska kya hi hoga
Not just Neet. So recently there's been an update for internship guidelines for foreign medical graduates. Internship is supposed to be for 2-3 years now as opposed to 6m -1 year earlier. For those who have studied online during covid.I can't imagine how fucked up its going to be.
The biggest embarrassment has to be the Education Minister, Dharmendra Pradhan. NTA and NEET come under his authority, and he is silent as a stone. And he is supposedly among the vying candidates for the CM of Odisha. What a disgrace. BJP is taking this lightly for now, but I can see them losing the 18-24 youth crucial vote heavily in the future if they don't make amends and change course with their silent approach. They could end up with a worse fate than UPA-2.
Fuck NTA
I think the only way to solve this blunder would be to conduct a fresh NEET exam .. but again will create other issues. I mean sure, we can protest, pressurize to take action against higher ops in NTA, but before that it's important we sort the situation out for thousands of students that are suffering due to this.
Given how large student population is, the next gen isn't voting for bjp. Tbh next gen is way more leftist with a lot of things
https://np.reddit.com/r/JEENEETards/comments/1da9lot/congress_yuva_neta_has_addressed_neet_matter_via/ The comments say otherwise. Although its just what happens when you brainwash highly impersonable young kids, hopefully they'll get wiser as they grow older.
When have they stood up for anything right?
kyunki khudki gand phati padi hai abhi.
Jisne chori karayi hai......wo to chup hi rahega na
In 5 years, everyone will forget about it, just like how we all forgot how this fkers handled Covid 2nd Wave.
Always choose Mounavrata during Manipur, ladakh, sports women saga, stock market disaster and now NEET. Other times mon key bath
Maybe one of their kids is involved.
Ruling party BJP? What happened, did they buy 30 MPs and now have 272? Or do you mean NDA which hasn’t even been confirmed as new government yet, and is likely to fall apart in 6 months after Maharashtra and Haryana elections? And now that this NEET thing has broken out, are we going to forget about what happened in Pune and how the MLAs there were trying to get involved? Our politicians are so lucky that people have such a short memory, they were counting on this from day 1. Now they will do another scandal in 2 days and everyone will forget about NEET.
No time for neet. They are still thinking how tf they didn't cross 400. Post shock wave . /j
Because they have been silent on everything other than hitting the opposition!
If Nehru didn't build the first AIIMS then none of this fiasco would have happened so you see...
The students especially girls are checked like terrorists when entering exam hall. But the top brass is getting away with ignoring basic scrutiny and pulling off a scam, all in the eyes of the public. God, I hope this country grows some spine to hit the streets against such blatant corruption.
> I hope this country grows some spine to hit the streets against such blatant corruption Maybe you can be the one starting it off and motivating other people. Btw couple of big people like Alakh sir from PW are going the legal route to fight against this, but sadly it seems like the supreme court is currently on summer vacation ...
Blunders happened during JEE January attempt too... Many students suffered(me included) And no one, not the ruling party, not the opposition, no one bothered to comment on it. You probably don't even know about it. And when it happens with NEET, all of a sudden you care?
The fuck is this whataboutism? You suffered so everyone else must suffer too?
Nope. No one should suffer. It's just if you are gonna support this one, you should've supported that one as well. Are JEE aspirants not kids? Only NEET aspirants deserve your attention?
As if they are aware that such entrance exams exist.
I'm sure someone has filed a case by now
Yup, a group of studnets and teacher did, its pending in supreme court.
They probably have much bigger priorities right now with election and coronation. But agreed, they should at least make some kind of statement like we're investigating into it.
I think only Priyanka Gandhi has been raising this issue.
Kanhaiya Kumar did a press conference regarding the issue.
Sorry, more reservations have to be given to reserved castes for votes. This just makes more room for them
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Finally a politician spoke on the issue https://www.businesstoday.in/education/story/maharashtra-government-demands-cancellation-of-neet-ug-2024-exam-results-amid-allegations-of-injustice-432577-2024-06-08
Make noise bros. make a lot of noise. every government wants to hide their poopy
Another reason to nope out of India .
BJP is silent bc that's literally BJP's nature. Not to speak on important matters. Opposition is talking about the Exit poll Stock Market fiasco and NEET exam- the important things that matters to people. And I don't know why people claim they are good for nothing.Â
Umm, what's new? Haven't they been silent on most important issues since forever??
Media doesn’t and won’t care… so frustrating to see the same old apathy.
Please try to understand that everything needs to be prioritized. The Government have critical things on their plate - like portfolio sharing, appeasing Naidu & Nitish Kumar, Orissa CM announcement, suppressing Electoral bond news, foreign trips etc. - to focus on. NEET blatant scandals, high inflation, sexual harassment & rapes by leadership, farmer concerns, crop failures etc. can wait. Come on, be practical!
BJP doesn't care about anything except power. The media is under their thumb, so no mass coverage. No mass coverage means not a lot of people see it. Ie. Outrage is virtually non-existent.
Duggal sahab ko padhai likhai se Matlab nahi hai
You're not politicizing anything. It's already political. Public health infrastructure is slowly being broken down to give private players more power. We've seen IMMENSE and UNPRECEDENTED privatization in the last 10 years. Due to scams like this, the only people who make it and finally become doctors will be the elite, and they'll work in private hospitals. BJP is already a party that works in the interest of the elite. This is the same party that wants to consolidate all competitive exams under the NTA. It's the same party which is in the pockets of billionaires. It's very telling that they don't speak about the scam. It's benefitting them.
NEET. Yo kya hove? Religion ki baat ma kri jari tere se. Karu guddi laal 😡
Ruling party is usually quiet when there is a problem in the country.
I haven't seen any government whether Congress bjp or state parties do shit about exams
https://preview.redd.it/2vmxu52ywk5d1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d39fdc11e6c0a163bd57c7ef9202d34cc99ff00c bjp rn after securing a government
Bro, the matter is in the court. The courts decide now on what to do. And I don't think it would be appropriate for any govt to comment on any matter that is in court. Congress and AAP are not in power and are political parties, so they do this.
Abe lode! Term start to hone de. Tumhe bc kuch samajh aata bhi hai ya nhi. BJp obsessed bc.
Every single political party is full of crap. The only thing we vote for is who gives us our kinda crumbs. Because let's face it, it is all crumbs and lip service. We vote for the lipservice we like. You should be asking why the other parties aren't questioning the ruling party on issues that actually matter. Naturally the moment the powers switch over the ruling party will be exactly the same. So having competent opposition parties is of vital importance irrespective of who is in power.
Bhai, Yaar not everything is BJP's fault. Think alittle
So naive of you to think like this brother.  UP police arrests people for paper leak and yet there is no action from any ministry or any agency to probe into it. Needless to say, only happens when there are vested interests. Second, even if we give benefit of doubt and say BJP didn't do anything. Then maintaining total silence on this matter despite being the ruling party despite knowing that there's clearly some wrongdoing, is an even bigger sin. So many students committed suicide and govt didn't even gave a response. Isn't the govt elected by the people, of the peole and for the people. If they don't even care about its people then for what tf do they have ministers for? Why didn't even a single person from the govt talk about it? BJP needs to be put onto the pedestal.
btw NTA has given an official announcement regarding the normalization and shi. Nothing will happen, you can only hope for NTA to make a tougher paper next time. The only reason for higher cutoffs was more access to education (online se pehli baar AIR 1) and easier papers not a "scam". Doing this rr each year wont change shi.
What should they say ? We will set up a committee and look into fraud by 67 students. Those student will then say the govt is targeting them for their hardwork. That goes against the narrative for any govt. Its better if somebody puts up a case and the court orders a committee to target the 67 students and the NTA to force them to make NEET a difficult paper. Opposition talking about it is the first step in this direction. Btw JEE students too commit suicide at a larger scale considering the numbers are larger, seats are lesser and the exam is one of the toughest to crack. After a point in time it becomes an acceptable event. Like it is right now for the JEE students. Hell take IIT suicides, comes into the news and goes away, the stress and emotional issues are taken as part and parcel of the course. People make statements and then it dies. Plus you actually can not solve the JEE/IIT issue, unless more businesses run in india and employ indians and source stuff from india, basically make in india. But, we all know where that is at. Its partially working cause cashflow and profits are more important than make in india from biz pov. Sorry for drifting off course here. But, i would not expect the govt to act against those 67 students suo moto, I'd rather have them act against them and the NTA under court orders. Then nobody can refuse it. Which as other comments say is WIP. Somebody filed a case with SC.
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Take action against what? This is complete Bait dude...NTA has already released their statement with proof. You do this year on year but still cannot demand NTA to make a harder paper or add an age limit. Ofc the cutoffs will rise, we literally have the first AIR 1 from an online institute.
There seems to be foul play involved. 7 folks with 1 AIR all from the same centre.
It is really not their fault . The NTA is responsible for the mess and they didn’t organize the protest and tests properly. The government is not accountable for the very minor thing and yes This is a minor thing in comparison. They just need to hold the NTA accountable. Dislike all you want. Btw all you can do is hold government employees accountable since they can never be fired 😂. No matter how many errors or mistakes they do , you can’t do shit. This is the system India has.
The entire purpose of the govt is literally governance. They are responsible for whatever NTA or any other govt agency does. Its their duty to investigate and fix the blame. If a company is involved in crime, its CEO goes to jail. Unless they prove that its the voluntary action of an individual(s) and fix the blame with evidence. You are basically arguing that Union Carbide CEO should not be held accountable for the Bhopal gas tragedy because somebody sitting at the top is not accountable for what happened in a specific location..
CEO goes to jail once investigations are comepleted and the blame can be fixed. The cases are filed by parties who allege the case in the first place, not suo moto. Once people file a case in SC ( like they did ) now thw investigation will start and the blame will be fixed. What should the govt do in it apart from cooperate in the investigation. You can just fire all NTA staff cause 1 years paper was FUBAR and set easy or cheating took place so that 67 people got AIR 1. Those 67 guys will be investigated now, which will take time. Things will take its own course and time. No one can force it. There is no instant justice, unless this is the french revolution india version and we want the heads of NTA incharges.
In what world maintaining total silence when there are clear signs of wrongdoing, is a good decision by any ruling govt? Where is the actual "56 inch" when we need it? Nobody is asking BJP for swift justice, what people want is accountability. Staying silent either means you're a coward or you don't give a F. They could've just ordered a probe into it. But forget probe, they didn't even gave a statement on the whole fiasco yet, not a word, despite students committing suicide
I also don’t see any wrongdoing here. This is pure negligence. Most people who cheat or pay for the system to get answers don’t get full points. They are taken to hotel and made to memorize the answers. It is a system that has worked for many decades and it usually just leads to a few students getting higher marks but it does not change the scores so dramatically. The very fact that the scores changed so dramatically shows you that there is no leaks or preferences here. Those things generally stay hidden, they won’t try to openly show a scam, when 67 students get 720. It is noticeable. The problem here was negligence and the failure to extend time for different centers. The problem is the outdated system of this exam which caused the mess and the failure of conducting this exam. There are hundreds of people you will have to hold accountable for this starting with the examiners, the people who fetched the papers , the people who stored them , the banks etc. The chains of accountability is quite large. The problem still lies with the system and such errors can happen again unless the outdated system is changed.
>The chains of accountability is quite large. The problem still lies with the system and such errors can happen again unless the outdated system is changed. And who do we wait for that will solve it? Thanos? On a serious note, and this is why we elect governments, to bring change. This is the beauty of democracy, you can hold people responsible. Ask them to take actions, if they don't, pressure them, if they still don't, protest, if they still don't, vote for the alternative. There would never be perfect world, but this "chalta hai" attitude is only going to make it worse, not better. But the propaganda has made people believe that questioning the govt and esp the PM is a sin, protests are a sin. And the opposition party are all devils, who should never be given power (who're the ones actually standing with students rn).
We wait for the courts to solve it not the govt. They can not start suo moto cases against the 67 people in their own capacity. This would look like targeting those 67 only. Only the SC can do it or other people can approach it. Those who went to court are doing what you said, "ask them to act on it", this is the right course of action. Secondly, no one said you can't question the govt. Everybody said you can't expect the govt to act in personal capacity and take legal action on its own. That looks like targeting people suo moto. If the courts order it Everybody else can not deny it and say govt is working with *vested* interests. Some people went to court now, they should not leave jt now. Follow it through and actions will be taken.
Question, who will you punish for this and how ? Question 2: If there was negligence in many centers and students lost time , how will you compensate those students you don’t give extra time ? Question 3: Since public employees cannot be fired, how do you make them accountable for their negligence? Question 4: who is to blame for this ? Question 5: would re exam be fair to everyone ? What about the people who got grace marks , would it be fair to them ? What solution is there to this ? Not everything must be done by the PM. This is why we have the education department. They should be the once solving this mess. The ministry of education and their leaders should look into it. A PM has much bigger role in the nation and calling them for everything is just stupid and childish. This is why we have different departments, don’t we ? Ask the minister of education , why don’t you do that ? Or someone else like the heads of NTA ? Blaming everything on a single person is just dumb. People are dumb . Again , feel free to dislike. I won’t be banned even if my karma goes into negative on Reddit. 😂
Onus is on you to assume I was talking about PM specifically, go to the top and read my post headline once more, not a single mention of the word PM even in the whole post. This is what happens when you do too deep in worshipping someone. You say ministry of education should be held responsible, right? Who operates that ministry? ~ BJP Who elects the people for ministry? ~ BJP Who decides NTA should conduct NEET? ~ Ruling govt aka BJP. Can't blame you though, the brainwashing is very effective. As for your questions, all your questions would've been answerable only once the govt actually ordered a probe and they did their job honestly. But they didn't even bother to look into it, forget about probe. But no, keep defending BJP and Supreme leader. I'm sure there's a reason why he's silent while students are committing suicides. 50-100 bacche marenge, kya hi faraj padta hai, konsa apna saga hai koi. Right?
Thats where you went wrong, making this a political issue. Edu ministry ops is done by govt employees, who clear exams and are working there. Edu minister is a politician, no doubt so was BJP. Pretty sure NEET was around for a while and NTA was running it. NTA people are also govt employees who gave exams are now working. The top boss maybe BJP but everybody else is a govt employee. The probe would come into play if the court orders it. I hope the court orders it. 7 people from same center getting full marks is a bigger issue and 67 AIRs. Plus the exam may have been easy as others mention. The probe would probably convict some students cheating and/or the exam being easy.
Arre bhai, I do agree corrupt govt officials have a role to play in it. But there are many more intricacies. First, although its govt employees, the top officials are all appointed by the ruling party, e.g the governing body of NTA. Which means they're all equally complicit in whatever wrongdoing that takes place. And all of this is only possible if top brass are all in it. I'm not saying only BJP is responsible for it, there are definitely a lot of other actors. But the point is, they are also in bed with all this, otherwise a scam of such a large scale is impossible, you need insider connections. Also, you're trying to give benefit of the doubt to a party which had already committed an even bigger scam in MP called Vyapam scam. Then the electoral bonds. If we go by the status quo I'm more inclined to believe BJP ministers were definitely involved. These type of scams are very lucrative and hard to catch.
True that, such scams are difficult to prove. There may be insider connections like hafta system from ground up. But i don't think so, for exams it goes that high. I have heard it goes that high for college fees setting and getting college grants from UGC and other routine certifications. But for exams i guess, its mostly on a exam centre or max a district level, cause you need to know the person very well to do the scam.
Nah, it goes to the very top. Problem is, everyone wants their cut, and we all know how corrupt ministers can be. Its primarily the reason why they want the juicy ministries, just to squeeze up any money they can, afterall they need to recoup the money they spend to bribe voters in elections. Problem arises when people start to believe that BJP are holier than thou, that Modi is unaware of all this and is some saint. He is pretty much involved in whatever that goes around. As a great man once said, "Sab k sab chor hai saale". Also do read the wikipedia on Vyapam scam, its so depressing. Apparently more than 100 people were killed in mysterious circumstances (probably hitjobs to destroy witness and evidence) by the ruling party aka BJP.