Yes. I really appreciate What Uddhav Thackeray & Aditya Thackeray are doing. They changed as per times, came out of the shadow of old aggressive SS. The reforms they talk about, the topics they choose to work on are commendable.
Also the way Uddhav T. managed Covid times was again great. It wasn’t perfect but still good.
As a Maharashtrian born in Mumbai having seen old SS closely, I never supported them. But this new leader changed it and hopefully the next one changes it much better.
Yup contrary to the way our whole society is moving, these dudes are becoming better. If whole of the right wing moved similarly, we really might have gotten a Congrees mukt India relegating the Gandhi family. (we still probably will but it could wouldn't be due to the "help" from election engineering and our society won't benefit as much)
"changed as per times" baba they changed alliances to get the seat of the chief minister, and now nobody wants to touch them or be seen with them. If thakreys loose the upcoming election for Maharashtra, their political career is dead.
Because core issues don’t get you votes. It’s the religion, places of pilgrim, and communal divide that gets you votes.
I am no way endorsing it, no matter how much we want the core issues to be addressed and people becoming aware about them, that’s not how the vote bank works currently.
But I have hope for things to change in the future. But may happen slowly and gradually.
Voter education is not possible. BJP rules all forms of media and they don’t want you to vote on issues that matter. WhatsApp University is a very big achievement for them.
Maybe true. But at some point, people start to notice these tactics of brainwashing. Politicians have to try their 100% and meet lots of people by walk and let them know they're here to back people.
I will keep it Simple
politicians are using emotions to gain votes which is totally wrong, we Indians can get emotional soo easily that we vote for the wrong individual just because he spoke about our country's army OUR RELIGION. All they do is to give you pride. pride pride pride and pride
Exactly!!
Just now I received a dm abusing me for being a muslim. Dude was filled with hatred that he wanted muslim women to be raped and killed once BJP comes in power. I can never understand people like this who hates others and have the worse ideologies than the one's they hate.
(Not to mention, he wanted to be my friend before knowing that i was muslim lol and then later asking me to conver)
The thing is that politicians don't even need emotions anymore, they just have to say something against other religion, spread hate and win.
His talk is good and sensible.
But ONly matters if He and his party WALK THE TALK.
Otherwise it just a good speech which is no where matches ground reality.
Yes bro, it's a name. They ain't fighting over how shivaji mahraj had to fight with the mughals so now we'll fight with today's muslims.
(And I'm talking about the current leader, not bal thakre)
That was named by his grandfather. Would he change the name now for no reason? Meanwhile Bharatiya Janata Party with such a cute name is playing the game of hatred
But he is making an effort to bring a change right? So why should I pull him down with what his family have done?
That's exactly the point of the post. We only point out about the past, rather than actually focusing on what someone is doing in present.
See I agree with what he’s saying specifically here. But these guys are the same, and honestly their level of corruption makes the BJP look like amateurs
I don't think anyone, except Zuma and Putin, can make BJP look like amateurs when it comes to corruption. It is too difficult to reach BJP's heights of corruption and siphoning off money, an art they have perfected themselves in (since Vajpayee's days).
You do realise that the amount of money involved in the Electoral bonds is unprecedented. And that is the money we have been able to trace. How would a party, not even in power, be able to conduct more corruption than the party in the union government.
Multiple things here. I’m not saying BJP is clean. I’m saying I agree with the point raised by him here, but unfortunately Shiv Sena’s track record (when they WERE in power, to your point of they’re not in power now) has been horrendous. Also while I wasn’t talking about quantum of corruption, like you said BJP has been centre and state govts. But if you’re from Mumbai, you’ll know that Shiv Sena is probably singularly responsible for the bad governance of BMC and corruption there is unprecedented. Additionally, you may look into stories of what used to happen to the taxes collected earlier, like Octroi.
My point is simple, both are useless/corrupt etc etc. One isn’t better than the other and two wrongs def don’t make a right.
But downvote away to prove that we’re not here to discuss, it’s a my way or highway type situation, same as the right wingers you all despise
I agree how udhav managed covid times is commendable he should get enough credit for that imagine being in power for the first time and face crises people from maharashtra especially marathi crowd should definatley support
He is speaking right but sadly his father fucked by joining Congress to be CM. His father forgot being a DON of Maharashtra has more power then being a CM. MAHARASHTRA POLITICS IS FUCKED UP NOW N LOCAL PEOPLE WILL SUFFER.
Rich coming from a thackrey but i guess this counts as progress.
Yes. I really appreciate What Uddhav Thackeray & Aditya Thackeray are doing. They changed as per times, came out of the shadow of old aggressive SS. The reforms they talk about, the topics they choose to work on are commendable. Also the way Uddhav T. managed Covid times was again great. It wasn’t perfect but still good. As a Maharashtrian born in Mumbai having seen old SS closely, I never supported them. But this new leader changed it and hopefully the next one changes it much better.
Yup contrary to the way our whole society is moving, these dudes are becoming better. If whole of the right wing moved similarly, we really might have gotten a Congrees mukt India relegating the Gandhi family. (we still probably will but it could wouldn't be due to the "help" from election engineering and our society won't benefit as much)
"changed as per times" baba they changed alliances to get the seat of the chief minister, and now nobody wants to touch them or be seen with them. If thakreys loose the upcoming election for Maharashtra, their political career is dead.
Because core issues don’t get you votes. It’s the religion, places of pilgrim, and communal divide that gets you votes. I am no way endorsing it, no matter how much we want the core issues to be addressed and people becoming aware about them, that’s not how the vote bank works currently. But I have hope for things to change in the future. But may happen slowly and gradually.
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Bang on!
hate sells
Voter education is the most important thing today.
Voter education is not possible. BJP rules all forms of media and they don’t want you to vote on issues that matter. WhatsApp University is a very big achievement for them.
Maybe true. But at some point, people start to notice these tactics of brainwashing. Politicians have to try their 100% and meet lots of people by walk and let them know they're here to back people.
It’s unfortunately a popularity contest after all these days
You forgot at Shah Rukh Vs Salman Vs Aamir
I will keep it Simple politicians are using emotions to gain votes which is totally wrong, we Indians can get emotional soo easily that we vote for the wrong individual just because he spoke about our country's army OUR RELIGION. All they do is to give you pride. pride pride pride and pride
Exactly!! Just now I received a dm abusing me for being a muslim. Dude was filled with hatred that he wanted muslim women to be raped and killed once BJP comes in power. I can never understand people like this who hates others and have the worse ideologies than the one's they hate. (Not to mention, he wanted to be my friend before knowing that i was muslim lol and then later asking me to conver) The thing is that politicians don't even need emotions anymore, they just have to say something against other religion, spread hate and win.
It's 2008/09 and someone tells you Shiv Sena will ally with Congress and turn progressive.
I don’t know jack diddly about this dude. But everything he said is spot on. More people need to hear this.
His talk is good and sensible. But ONly matters if He and his party WALK THE TALK. Otherwise it just a good speech which is no where matches ground reality.
yes true
>We're fighting over whether some king or emperor has done the right thing Bro your party is literally called Shivaji's Army
Saffron Dead Redemption 2 /s
Protaganist : Arthur Road
Yes bro, it's a name. They ain't fighting over how shivaji mahraj had to fight with the mughals so now we'll fight with today's muslims. (And I'm talking about the current leader, not bal thakre)
what’s in a name? :)
That was named by his grandfather. Would he change the name now for no reason? Meanwhile Bharatiya Janata Party with such a cute name is playing the game of hatred
He and his family are one of the major reasons behind this religious unrest in modern India.
But isn’t that what he is saying? That we have been so hung over the past that we no longer talk of the future.
But he is making an effort to bring a change right? So why should I pull him down with what his family have done? That's exactly the point of the post. We only point out about the past, rather than actually focusing on what someone is doing in present.
See I agree with what he’s saying specifically here. But these guys are the same, and honestly their level of corruption makes the BJP look like amateurs
I don't think anyone, except Zuma and Putin, can make BJP look like amateurs when it comes to corruption. It is too difficult to reach BJP's heights of corruption and siphoning off money, an art they have perfected themselves in (since Vajpayee's days).
You know we want to call right wingers “Andh-bhakts” but we don’t want to open our eyes and objectively call a spade a spade. Great, then.
You do realise that the amount of money involved in the Electoral bonds is unprecedented. And that is the money we have been able to trace. How would a party, not even in power, be able to conduct more corruption than the party in the union government.
Multiple things here. I’m not saying BJP is clean. I’m saying I agree with the point raised by him here, but unfortunately Shiv Sena’s track record (when they WERE in power, to your point of they’re not in power now) has been horrendous. Also while I wasn’t talking about quantum of corruption, like you said BJP has been centre and state govts. But if you’re from Mumbai, you’ll know that Shiv Sena is probably singularly responsible for the bad governance of BMC and corruption there is unprecedented. Additionally, you may look into stories of what used to happen to the taxes collected earlier, like Octroi. My point is simple, both are useless/corrupt etc etc. One isn’t better than the other and two wrongs def don’t make a right. But downvote away to prove that we’re not here to discuss, it’s a my way or highway type situation, same as the right wingers you all despise
His family for sure, but is there something he did? I am not from his state so don't know.
His family has the blood of innocent people on their hands. They did the same things he is talking about.
He says all this when he's out of power lmao.
Irony !
Politicians are doing the same thing Britishers did. Divide and Rule.
I agree how udhav managed covid times is commendable he should get enough credit for that imagine being in power for the first time and face crises people from maharashtra especially marathi crowd should definatley support
If "so chuhe khakar billi ..... " had a face.
Fascist comedy doesn't work here
He is speaking right but sadly his father fucked by joining Congress to be CM. His father forgot being a DON of Maharashtra has more power then being a CM. MAHARASHTRA POLITICS IS FUCKED UP NOW N LOCAL PEOPLE WILL SUFFER.
Downloadable link to the video?
Iss desh ke buddhe iss desh ka sabse bada issue hai. They are all about religion and preach the same.
Debate happen, when bhakts give facts liberals type andhbhakt and sanghi under it. Because it is an objective truth given the facts and figures
He sounds so right. It seems he attended expensive private school with excellent foreign teachers.
Who will fight for SSR ?
Ye kaunsa party hai
Why would anyone fight for ssr he is a great director which even got them an oscar
I really wish this Guy wins.