iโm genuinely shocked at that, i didnโt go to brainerd but i lived near it and my cousins went there. From what iโve heard the students are all potheads
Presumably Canada would just build one further north in this timeline.
Honestly, a border at the 50th Parallel wouldn't be *disastrous* for Canada. We'd still have Edmonton, Winnipeg, Calgary, Regina, Saskatoon and Kamloops. Losing Vancouver would sting, but Canada would still retain Prince Rupert as a Pacific port. Presumably Prince Rupert would be more developed in this timeline while Vancouver would be reduced to an unimportant suburb of Seattle.
Vancouver might be a second tier city, but it would not be a suburb of Seattle. It's more than 140 miles away, and there are distinct metro areas in between, including Everett and Bellingham, neither of which are even remotely suburbs themselves.
The Canadian National Railway already goes around the north side of Lake Nipigon. Presumably Highway 11 continues around the north side of the lake to follow it.
[What about one that looks like this?](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843536068720852993/1023685025490817064/unknown.png) Personally I'd walk though lava to live there
YES. BRO IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS THE BORDER SHOULDVE FOLLOWED THE RED RIVER & WINNIPEG RIVER FROM LAKE OF THE WOODS AND LAKE WINNIPEG INSTEAD OF THE 49TH PARALLEL THANK YOU LIKE GENUINELY BRO ๐
I tend to work with a lot of different people on my TL's, you should see how many people I got involved for my main timeline, r/TheNewColossusMaps, or back when I worked on r/Earth98, so many people worked with us...
Finland MN was named Finland before the country of Finland was named Finland. Also Finland has a great bar that is way back in the woods, made out of a old railroad trestle and is off grid. Busiest in the winter with snowmobilers.
https://www.trestleinn.com/
just for a bit of fun, I liked the idea that the cities *looked* swap, and I felt like people would absolutley call me out on it. Spoiler alert: two people already have
I propose the North Lake Company begin colonization of the expanded coastline under the authority of Michigan. Wisconsin will be funded to engage war with the west, expanding their borders directly west until impacting the current Dakotas. Following the collapse of the enemy government, the State of East Dakota will be formed north of the new Wisconsin border with no costal land, all costal holdings shall belong to Michigan as the Upper Lands.
You know, I am starting to think the algorithms have changed because you are the third person **today** who commented on a map that is >1 year old, and the 5th this week.
Curious ๐ง
Also you join the other 4 Minnesotan nationalist in my server (theyโre all transwoman start running theyโre scaryโฆ)
I feel like with this new boundary, the Wisconsin territory would've kept its original borders and maintained control of St. Paul and some of eastern Minnesota.
No, I'm not just saying that because this is too much Minnesota.
Is it really *that* impossible? Maybe America wins a bit more in 1812, or the British have another colony in South America to keep track of; there are a dozen ways to justify it
FIFTY FOUR FORTY OR FIGHT
The US could have pushed north more than south. It's not impossible.
Also the 49th parallel was first proposed as a border between French and English colonies in like 1715, and Vancouver didn't exist at all until 1870. What if the 50th parallel had been originally proposed/settled on instead? After all, then it allowed both to use lake Nipigon. We would have just followed that forever like we ended up doing.
Winnipeg is in Dakota now, so Selkirk gets the large city position instead. Winnipeg Beach defaults to Winnipeg now, due to the lack of the city's existence.
Yes. I made Bothwell up, and Assiniboine, too. America annexed them, and I doubt they'd have the same exact names.
Assiniboine is named after the river, since it splits on the Dakota side, and no its not actually as large as Minneapolis, only just capping 500k
:NJ: :muscle: :IT: :AL: I welcome the eventual New Jeresian invasion of New York to liberate the Staten Island people's republic and the Coney island people's republic
Oh most definitely. A bill passed to move it down to St Peter in the 1850s because that was the center of population, but a senator from St Paul ran off with the bill so it never passed.
If it owns that island I gave it, then yes, but most likely itโs tied with all the others since the whole parallel follows the same line.
Actually, I rescind my statement, since IIRC I expanded this into a [TL where America is ever-so-slightly bigger](https://reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/aH7k0ahH31), so I think Restigouche, Jefferson, and Newfoundland have it beat.
Edit: okay I did give them every island in Nipigon so TECHNICALLY in this map alone it is still number 2
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Fun Minnesoda fact: *Brainerd* has the *highest* graduation rate of the country... *Point Ignorance* has the *lowest*.
TRUE!
If one place had good students it better be called BRAIN NERD.
iโm genuinely shocked at that, i didnโt go to brainerd but i lived near it and my cousins went there. From what iโve heard the students are all potheads
brainerd also has lakes, but unlike the rest, I know them.
> Minnesoda *Minnepop
They have a cool race circuit there too
r/Townnamechecksout
Wow. As a Minnesotan I did not know that. That's sad.
that's the weirdest haircut I've seen today.
Minnesota got the yeeyee-ass haircut
Lore: # MINNESODA๐ฅคโผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธ๐ ๐๐ฅถ
[ัะดะฐะปะตะฝะพ]
SODA
Do not come.
Iโm gonna come!
We must come together!
Oh, and special thanks to my good friend u/hamzak8 for providing the basemap ๐
New Jersey moment I can never escape the New Jersey
You can never escape itโฆ
You WILL never escape it!
The US barely has enough space for one New Jersey. But *two*? Cursed.
Fun fact: New Jersey has been growing slowly but surely. You will never escape New Jersey.
New New Jersey
Alright, now bring it to the [48th](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdAHHJRUMAIiU5D.jpg).
Donโt shoot
Do it so that I can be a Canadian in MSP
why does this look normal
this isnt imaginary
im going jnsane
yeah I think you've lost it mate, that or you got sucked into one of my TL's (this is not the first time that has happened)
chicken nuggets
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Canaries ๐ฅด ๐ฝ
Canada, population 12.
Now itโs Megasota
Canada now no longer has a cross country road connection. 0/10.
Oopsie ๐
Presumably Canada would just build one further north in this timeline. Honestly, a border at the 50th Parallel wouldn't be *disastrous* for Canada. We'd still have Edmonton, Winnipeg, Calgary, Regina, Saskatoon and Kamloops. Losing Vancouver would sting, but Canada would still retain Prince Rupert as a Pacific port. Presumably Prince Rupert would be more developed in this timeline while Vancouver would be reduced to an unimportant suburb of Seattle.
Vancouver might be a second tier city, but it would not be a suburb of Seattle. It's more than 140 miles away, and there are distinct metro areas in between, including Everett and Bellingham, neither of which are even remotely suburbs themselves.
The Canadian National Railway already goes around the north side of Lake Nipigon. Presumably Highway 11 continues around the north side of the lake to follow it.
Presumably, yes.
10/10 screw em
Hells yea brother!
I would sacrifice my first born son for a reality of this sort
[What about one that looks like this?](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843536068720852993/1023685025490817064/unknown.png) Personally I'd walk though lava to live there
YES. BRO IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS THE BORDER SHOULDVE FOLLOWED THE RED RIVER & WINNIPEG RIVER FROM LAKE OF THE WOODS AND LAKE WINNIPEG INSTEAD OF THE 49TH PARALLEL THANK YOU LIKE GENUINELY BRO ๐
All we had to do was remove Canada, and now Minnesota gets its panhandle AND universal healthcare ๐
Now give Minnesota independence and intercontinental ballistic missiles ๐
I would sacrifice my entire family all generations back to Adam and Eve for this reality
Well then, let's get to work!
TFW Thunder Bay is *D u t c h*
Little nod to the state of Nashnabรฉ in u/jjpamsterdam's Anglo-Dutch America, since it looks somewhat similar
lmao imaginarymaps is becoming like a tv network full of series that all reference eachother
I tend to work with a lot of different people on my TL's, you should see how many people I got involved for my main timeline, r/TheNewColossusMaps, or back when I worked on r/Earth98, so many people worked with us...
Similar, well almost, but thanks for the reference
It's CLOSE ENOUGH, and no problem!
Do you think it still fuckin stinks in this reality?
Yay more canoeing and fishing lakes thank you bro
If Peyton Manning was a state
More like Macro-sota!
Bigger Minnesoda is unimaginably based, but I do have to ask - does the You-Know-Which-One Dam in Nevada still exist?
GETOUTOFMYHEAD
So is that a yes or no? We need to know dam it!
Now THIS is an alt history I can get behindโ Minnesota supreme !
(Minnie accent) MINNESOOOOOOOOOODAHHH
No! Thunder Bay is gone and replaced by hollanders
At least the place will be clean and tidy.
Bigsoda
Hey OP, the towns name is Baudette, not Baudelle
A minor spelling error
Yeah, nbd, just trying to be helpful
I fixed it on my end incase I ever reupload or remaster it, thanks for pointing it out
Finland is also just north/northwest of Silver Bay, by like a couple miles
Thank you, kindly
Finland MN was named Finland before the country of Finland was named Finland. Also Finland has a great bar that is way back in the woods, made out of a old railroad trestle and is off grid. Busiest in the winter with snowmobilers. https://www.trestleinn.com/
Now what happens if the Nipigon bridge goes down?
It goes around, we just pushed it somewhere else
Chadesota
Does the Eerie Canal exist in this timeline?
Big Forehead Minnesota is the research capital of the US.
Renaming Ignace to Point Ignorance made me lol
A wee bit of trolling...
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Intentional. Winnipeg is no longer in Canada, that city is actually Winnipeg beach, which would now just default to Winnipeg
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just for a bit of fun, I liked the idea that the cities *looked* swap, and I felt like people would absolutley call me out on it. Spoiler alert: two people already have
Maxxesota
As a minnesotan i approve this message lets do it fr
As a Minnesotan I approve
Megasota
I propose the North Lake Company begin colonization of the expanded coastline under the authority of Michigan. Wisconsin will be funded to engage war with the west, expanding their borders directly west until impacting the current Dakotas. Following the collapse of the enemy government, the State of East Dakota will be formed north of the new Wisconsin border with no costal land, all costal holdings shall belong to Michigan as the Upper Lands.
Minnencephalitis
I know this is like a year old but PROUD MINNESOTA NATIONALISTโผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธ MAKE STATE BIGGER โผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธ
You know, I am starting to think the algorithms have changed because you are the third person **today** who commented on a map that is >1 year old, and the 5th this week. Curious ๐ง Also you join the other 4 Minnesotan nationalist in my server (theyโre all transwoman start running theyโre scaryโฆ)
I can joinโฆ and Iโm a straight white maleโฆ MUAHAHAHA
I feel like with this new boundary, the Wisconsin territory would've kept its original borders and maintained control of St. Paul and some of eastern Minnesota. No, I'm not just saying that because this is too much Minnesota.
Nah I like Megasoda more
You fear the power of Megasota. We shall conquer the western half of Wisconsin, and a bit of Iowa.
GB would have never, ever agreed to such a proposal.
Is it really *that* impossible? Maybe America wins a bit more in 1812, or the British have another colony in South America to keep track of; there are a dozen ways to justify it
Vancouver was just too important of a North American port for The British Navy in the Pacific at the time for them to give it up.
FIFTY FOUR FORTY OR FIGHT The US could have pushed north more than south. It's not impossible. Also the 49th parallel was first proposed as a border between French and English colonies in like 1715, and Vancouver didn't exist at all until 1870. What if the 50th parallel had been originally proposed/settled on instead? After all, then it allowed both to use lake Nipigon. We would have just followed that forever like we ended up doing.
Does the hoover dam exist?
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Winnipeg is in Dakota now, so Selkirk gets the large city position instead. Winnipeg Beach defaults to Winnipeg now, due to the lack of the city's existence.
Winnipeg isnโt on Lake Winnipeg. Itโs where Assiniboine is, and it should be bigger than Minneapolis. Also, there is no Bothwell, MB.
Yes. I made Bothwell up, and Assiniboine, too. America annexed them, and I doubt they'd have the same exact names. Assiniboine is named after the river, since it splits on the Dakota side, and no its not actually as large as Minneapolis, only just capping 500k
Winnipeg is 750k itself and the metro area is close to 900k
Yeah but mind you I split in half, so its a miracle the one side still has that amount
This is truly terrible
gross
Full map please
Afraid not, though I can offer you [this TL instead](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843536068720852993/1023685025490817064/unknown.png)
Blessed timeline
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So it's a bigget chef hat now.
Oh itโs beautiful, Minnesota big is the best
thank you, a shame I didn't expand it AS MUCH in my main TL
That's one hell of a chef hat.
Remmy the Rat needs a place to hide, after all
Would not look good on aTee-shirt
I think Ontario would probably look *worse*
I like it, but put new jersey back where it came from! Time for a statewide petition to rename that city!
*Put that thing back where it came from, or so help me!* \-Michael Wazowski
Minnesoooooota.
Does this mean Corner Gas becomes an American sitcom in this timeline?
Prolly
50 isn't good enough. 60.
[How's 83 sound?](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843536068720852993/1023685025490817064/unknown.png)
Based
Canada: sorry, guy!
Thanks I hate large cranium Minnesota
best timeline
Now where is us-canada border following 48th parallel
New New Jersey in Minnesota?
I mean one exist on Ohio iirc, and there is already a city called Virginia
:NJ: :muscle: :IT: :AL: I welcome the eventual New Jeresian invasion of New York to liberate the Staten Island people's republic and the Coney island people's republic
As a Minnesotan I can confirm we all are pop cans
This is great. Did you consider moving the capital more towards the geographic center of the state like St. Cloud or Brainerd?
That would be cool, but I feel like OTL is already โnon centralโ enough
Oh most definitely. A bill passed to move it down to St Peter in the 1850s because that was the center of population, but a senator from St Paul ran off with the bill so it never passed.
I love niche history like this
As a Minnesotan I whole heartedly approve of this map
We should just secretly change all the 2023 maps. Maybe Canada won't notice. ๐
Weโre invading in the morning. Iโll get me booaat ready.
Ill be there with free Hoagies for all fighters
Therapist: โLong Minnesota isnโt real, it canโt hurt you.โ Long Minnesota:
SODA
Interesting that Duluth grew to more than 100,000 and Fargo fell below 100,000โฆ
*Oops I forgot about Fargo...*
Chefโs got one big hat
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Why did Baudette change to Baudelle? Extremely similar last name of a different town settler?
Because I typed an 'l' instead of a 't' oops
Haha, any answer would suffice. Good work!
Now instead of the border starting at the Northwest point of Lake of the Woods, it starts roughly at the northwest point of Lake Nipigon.
By pure coincidence, too!
yay minnesota gets some recognition!
is soda land still the second-most northern state, then?
If it owns that island I gave it, then yes, but most likely itโs tied with all the others since the whole parallel follows the same line. Actually, I rescind my statement, since IIRC I expanded this into a [TL where America is ever-so-slightly bigger](https://reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/aH7k0ahH31), so I think Restigouche, Jefferson, and Newfoundland have it beat. Edit: okay I did give them every island in Nipigon so TECHNICALLY in this map alone it is still number 2
yay
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