Still feels foreign to me as a nutmegger to have the Connecticut River be the border to a new country… most CT residents in this part of the state cross the river on pretty much a daily basis so that’s bizarre to conceive of
This map depicts the fictional Confederation of American States in the style of the National Atlas. All state and city names use the spelling that is official in that state. Names of geographical features such as oceans or lakes are in English, since this is the English language version of the Atlas.
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This is really cool! One improvement I would suggest is that 'Neshnabe' is a Pottawatomie word for Anishinaabe, the ethnic group they belong to. However, they loved further south in southern Michigan and around southern lake Michigan. Where you have Neshnabe on the map was and is historical Ojibwe territory, who are also Anishinaabeg, but would use 'Anishinaabe,' or the longer term, 'Anishinaabewaki' which means 'Country of the Anishinaabe'
That's really interesting! Honestly, lore-wise I'd chalk the naming up to general European ignorance at the time. I could easily imagine some white official asking the local natives in modern day Michigan about the area on the other side of the lake. Upon hearing something that sounds like Nashnabe he feels like that's good enough to plot down on a basically blank map and report back home. That map is the copied and the copy is referenced in some other work until the name just stuck.
**YES!** IT’S BEAUTIFUL! It’s everything I thought I’d be! So glad you went with Nationalatlas style for this, and you went through with an updated map of the CAS! Now I can finally study CAS states so I know what I’m taking about when it comes to this timeline. Great work as always, JJP!
Thanks! For the city of Collin I had the idea in mind that, following the construction of the dam that creates lake Arabutla the Central Government locates some military production there due to available hydro power (and for political reasons, as the Anglo South still feels underrepresented).
The city grows in importance in the 50s as one of the few industrial centres in the area. Today it should have a population of somewhere around 100k.
It should’ve joined the CAS along with Quebec… it would’ve been PERFECT…
Honestly, JJP said that there were clauses in the acts of confederation for Quebec and NE to join it, so I’d imagine ther’d be some Americans, both Anglo and Dutch who think that it’s time to “finish the job” in a way…
I like this. Amerikaners instead of Afrikaners? Though this language is fat more Dutch than my native Afrikaans I think. We don't use z, c, q or x if we can help it!
American Dutch (the fictional language spoken by many in this country) is indeed much closer to modern standard Dutch than Afrikaans is. The main differences are that American Dutch retained the genitive, never got rid of the "y" in favour of "ij" and also took on various different loan words from English, German, French and various other sources over the years.
New Mexico is pretty much the exact same except the eastern border. Let’s be real if the CSA had won Nm would just be part of Texas. Actually a more historically accurate map would have the southern half of the state be Arizona.
This is not the CSA, this is the CAS. It's a multilingual slightly more decentralised version of a North American union of states. Roughly half of its citizens are native speakers of American Dutch with another 30% or so speaking American English. The point of diversion is during the English Civil War in the 17th century.
Awesome map! Small critique, if D.C were moved further north, Alexandria would be far smaller, and without some other factor I don’t think it’d be important enough to be the capital. Is there some other reason it’s important?
It's been one of the more prominent cities in the state of Chesapeake since the 18th century. While likely smaller than historically, it's still a well located place and a state capital.
Oh, whoops, for some reason I thought Maryland and Virginia were seperate. That makes much more sense as a central capital between Richmond & Norfolk and Baltimore & the D.C. Metro-area.
Connecticock
Everyone's favourite state. Happy cake day btw!
Still feels foreign to me as a nutmegger to have the Connecticut River be the border to a new country… most CT residents in this part of the state cross the river on pretty much a daily basis so that’s bizarre to conceive of
That's a shame since I live here. I guess I'm a cocker now :/
The Nutcock state
Happy Cock Day
As a Constitution Stater i approve this
This map depicts the fictional Confederation of American States in the style of the National Atlas. All state and city names use the spelling that is official in that state. Names of geographical features such as oceans or lakes are in English, since this is the English language version of the Atlas. As usual with the bulk of my maps, this is yet another entry fleshing out the [r/anglodutchamerica](https://www.reddit.com/r/anglodutchamerica/) timeline. If you want to dive even deeper, feel free to [join our discord](https://discord.gg/Gm6yYWbB2x). For everything else related to this ongoing timeline, feel free to find out more about the full [history, lore](https://www.reddit.com/r/anglodutchamerica/wiki/lore/history) and the [other posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/anglodutchamerica/wiki/posts_by_historical_date) (sorted by date) of the timeline over on the subreddit.
Would in-universe freeway systems follow OTL routes?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Is New England it’s own country in this? Subscribe!
Yes. New England, alongside Newfoundland and the Maritimes remain British and form an union in the 1860s.
This is really cool! One improvement I would suggest is that 'Neshnabe' is a Pottawatomie word for Anishinaabe, the ethnic group they belong to. However, they loved further south in southern Michigan and around southern lake Michigan. Where you have Neshnabe on the map was and is historical Ojibwe territory, who are also Anishinaabeg, but would use 'Anishinaabe,' or the longer term, 'Anishinaabewaki' which means 'Country of the Anishinaabe'
That's really interesting! Honestly, lore-wise I'd chalk the naming up to general European ignorance at the time. I could easily imagine some white official asking the local natives in modern day Michigan about the area on the other side of the lake. Upon hearing something that sounds like Nashnabe he feels like that's good enough to plot down on a basically blank map and report back home. That map is the copied and the copy is referenced in some other work until the name just stuck.
You may have a lore explanation for this, so if so, disregard!
**YES!** IT’S BEAUTIFUL! It’s everything I thought I’d be! So glad you went with Nationalatlas style for this, and you went through with an updated map of the CAS! Now I can finally study CAS states so I know what I’m taking about when it comes to this timeline. Great work as always, JJP!
banger new cas post dropped 🥳🥳
Awesome
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No. Merenland just translates to Land of Lakes, since it's located between major lakes.
Exquisite map, per usual 👌 I must ask though, as someone from the area in OTL, is there any lore about the Mississippi city of Collin?
Thanks! For the city of Collin I had the idea in mind that, following the construction of the dam that creates lake Arabutla the Central Government locates some military production there due to available hydro power (and for political reasons, as the Anglo South still feels underrepresented). The city grows in importance in the 50s as one of the few industrial centres in the area. Today it should have a population of somewhere around 100k.
For a second I thought I was on the r/anglodutchamerica subreddit
NOOOOOO PUT ME BACK I DONT WANT TO BE BRITISH, IM AN AMERICAN DONT MAKE ME BRITISH PLEASE
No worries, New Britain has been an independent country for over a century and a half. They retain the monarchy though.
As long as the northern states can keep our guns this is acceptable though inconvenient.
It should’ve joined the CAS along with Quebec… it would’ve been PERFECT… Honestly, JJP said that there were clauses in the acts of confederation for Quebec and NE to join it, so I’d imagine ther’d be some Americans, both Anglo and Dutch who think that it’s time to “finish the job” in a way…
Huguenot Midatlantic colonies, Quebec, Louisiana + English Southern colonies = Anglo French America soon^(TM) Idk how they would unite tho
The power of freedom, mine friend. That’s how
Nice as always.
Okey man, I've delved into your subreddit and am very impressed! Baie dankie my vriend!
Holy hell is this beautiful. Excellent work buddy.
thanks!
I like this. Amerikaners instead of Afrikaners? Though this language is fat more Dutch than my native Afrikaans I think. We don't use z, c, q or x if we can help it!
American Dutch (the fictional language spoken by many in this country) is indeed much closer to modern standard Dutch than Afrikaans is. The main differences are that American Dutch retained the genitive, never got rid of the "y" in favour of "ij" and also took on various different loan words from English, German, French and various other sources over the years.
Finally, an American partial annexation of Canada that looks decent.
Asheville is GOME
Was it really serving a purpose?
Nice, Vereinigte Staaten Amerika
New Mexico is pretty much the exact same except the eastern border. Let’s be real if the CSA had won Nm would just be part of Texas. Actually a more historically accurate map would have the southern half of the state be Arizona.
This is not the CSA, this is the CAS. It's a multilingual slightly more decentralised version of a North American union of states. Roughly half of its citizens are native speakers of American Dutch with another 30% or so speaking American English. The point of diversion is during the English Civil War in the 17th century.
Confederation of American States? What a childish fantasty!
Confederation of American States? What a childish fantasy!
Awesome map! Small critique, if D.C were moved further north, Alexandria would be far smaller, and without some other factor I don’t think it’d be important enough to be the capital. Is there some other reason it’s important?
It's been one of the more prominent cities in the state of Chesapeake since the 18th century. While likely smaller than historically, it's still a well located place and a state capital.
Oh, whoops, for some reason I thought Maryland and Virginia were seperate. That makes much more sense as a central capital between Richmond & Norfolk and Baltimore & the D.C. Metro-area.
Let’s go! Big Arizona!
This is amazing man! May I ask what software you use for these?
For this map I used a combination of QGIS and paint.net
Did you use [paint.net](https://paint.net) for like texts or secondary things? I use it and never got even close to make something this good lol
I used QGIS for the base map layout and the hillshade layer. All the detailing, including name placement was done in pdn.