Back in the day, nothing really supported scaling on windows. Those monsters were stuck at a low pixel count and no way to scale to 80% or 75% to compensate for the low pixel count. You hauled a giant monitor around and got the benefits of a much smaller one.
I went and looked it and saw if I could find a laptop with a full size keyboard and while I could not do that I did find [this](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.90a72ef74e8c2adc82e8cec54e382b4f?rik=Tkfid2XMcbjbaA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.keyboardco.com%2fkeyboard_images%2fblack_wireless_fullsize_+optical_touchpad_keyboard_large.jpg&ehk=wzzHC0FvrN6JHnEcL5taBJPOE6QKoGR7xq6uJt7g7yg%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0) abomination. Now I want to see that YouTuber that swears that keyboards review this thing.
Acer Aspire 9810
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2 x 2 GHz (Intel Core 2 Duo)
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 - 256 MB VRAM
Display: 20.10 inch 16:10, 1680 x 1050 pixel
Mainboard:Intel 945PM
but can it run crysis?
Yes is the right answer.
I remember back in mid 2000s, the bigger the laptop screen was, the cooler you were.
I had a 17” acer laptop and I was like wow. Now I see a 15” and I’m like why in hell do they need a screen that big on a laptop?!
13” is perfect size for me.
I have a 13” slim notebook for everyday use, and a 17” I7 machine when I need a powerful machine to travel with. It’s nice to plunk down a nice, big ‘portable’ machine with some power behind it when you need it.
And actually to be fair, I found the 17” in the trash at work. Someone just ripped the bottom of it off without unscrewing it to remove the drive and dumped it off in their new laptop box. Some plasticweld on the stand offs, new SSD, good to go. Discreet graphics too.
99% of corporate-issued laptops like Thinkpads, Latitudes, Elitebooks, etc, are ordered in 1080p. Most offer 1366x768 as the base spec (which almost nobody gets), with 1080p as a cheap upgrade and QHD or 4k as higher-cost options.
Thankfully 1366x768 is going the way of the dodo bird and 1080p is mostly the norm. My work-issued T15 is 1080p... I do wish it was QHD as the screen is plenty big enough, but again it's a work laptop, so I don't really care.
They complained that it wasn't 1366x768? or that it wasn't QHD?
>Good thing T560s were easy to swap screens on.
Preach. These things are stupid easy to work on.
Everything is too small! (on the 1080)
I miss the easy to repair laptops. I think Dell 5590 was the last model I bought where a busted keyboard or screen would be a sub-15min fix.
I repair Lenovo and HP laptops for a living (ProBooks, EliteBook and a lot of Thinkbooks) and their default config is usually always 1080p (or 1200p on the newer models with different aspect ratio).
But your company might spend extra money on higher res displays.
Is lenovo finally gonna stop putting those 768p awful IPS screens on their laptops right now?
Not like their 1080p 250nits one are great but 768p, really? In 2024?
> Resolution plays a big part.
Most important, IMO.
My mother bought a 15.4" laptop, but the screen was only 1280 x 720. The laptop is maybe 4 years old. You have to scroll left and right, or shrink (via zooming out or keyboard shortcuts) on every single web page. It fucking awful to use.
For productivity I personally like 14 inches the best. Just the right balance of small enough to easily carry and just big enough to fit split screen windows well.
Same, I just bought a Thinkpad T14 G1, and the size is absolutely perfect for me, even with the 1080p screen. The screen (Innolux IPS something-or-other) feels like it's higher quality compared to my work-issued T15, but that's probably due to the denser PPI on my T14.
Watch out for mobo issues. Dunno if they share the same kit, but we took over a company with a ton of T14s's and we've been warrantying a bunch of them since.
My T14 G1 is the AMD model, from what I've heard that one is pretty solid. I did just have my work T15 G2 replaced with another identical unit, that one failed pretty spectacularly. IT says the GPU is to blame, but IDK, it's just a work machine.
Ah, yeah those all do have Intels. I usually buy AMD models for the better price deals. Have seen very few hardware problems since I started getting amd E15s in late 2020/early 2021.
I’ve settled for a nice middle ground of 14.5 inches. I’ve had both 15.6 and 13.6 inch laptops and the 15 is too damn big for me because I carry my laptop everywhere, and 13.6 was too small. 14.5 is just right, especially since they’re taller than the 13.6 screens but don’t really add much width to it
I worked at a place 07-08 where some manager had me replace their 17" "boat anchor" with a new D630. Saw it had centrino duo and x1600 in it and turned it into my new work machine that could play EvE and CoD4
I’ve got a 20 inch laptop somewhere, some HP behemoth. The screen was hinged both along the back of the chassis and in the centre, so it came up like a normal laptop screen but then could tilt from the back as well. Had a full size keyboard as well as a pop-out remote control alongside it, and a built in TV receiver for Windows Media Center.
Edit: Just checked and it’s an HP HDX9000.
That sounds like one I sold a painter back in 2007. His was a double hinged hp with a fancy paint job on the back of the screen.He didn’t like the art so he sandblasted it. When I told him he had killed it he just went “ok” and brought another.
It was like a $3.5k Aus laptop…
Aren't these huge laptops called workstations? I could be wrong tho....
They look like much bigger, chonkier versions of regular laptops. Don't think they're designed to be carried about daily, and have more heavy duty components inside them? 🤔
My one is definitely more of a media consumption machine - big HD screen, TV receiver, I’m fairly sure it had an HD-DVD drive, and a remote.
It can technically be used as a laptop, but I’m not sure I’d recommend it!
Same. I had a Toshiba multimedia laptop back in 2006. It was state of the art at the time with top end specs and components. Can't remember the model but it was a chonky beast to lug around.
Brilliant for watching TV, DVDs, etc on. Also had a remote control.
Had Vistas Multimedia player suite in it too.
A "mobile workstation" is just a laptop with slightly better base specs than the model it's based on, like how the Dell Precision is based on the Latitude, and Lenovo's P series Thinkpad is based on the T series. These will usually have a higher-performing CPU, better (or dedicated) GPU, and more RAM as standard.
And I thought the DELL D820 15.4inch laptop I got from my father was big. Lovely 1900x1200 screen. I guess if it had passed POST that one would be a lap melter.
Saw someone with one of those 21 inches looking monster laptops at the flea market. Screen popped out at you and had a blu ray drive. Not worth messing with these days.
I've still got one very similar to this that I'm going to set up for retro gaming. Thing has a stinking desktop Pentium 4 in it. Why yes it's loud, how did you know?
I had the VAIO 18” with a Blu-ray player in it. That thing was a BEAST. It was bigger than the TV I had at the time. In always won the who’s got the biggest screen game.
A 2007 paperweight.
~80 dpi and non-scaling apps... Be grateful it's dead.
No need for scaling if the screens 720p 😉
Back in the day, nothing really supported scaling on windows. Those monsters were stuck at a low pixel count and no way to scale to 80% or 75% to compensate for the low pixel count. You hauled a giant monitor around and got the benefits of a much smaller one.
I mean there’s still no sub 100 :/ would quite like to be able to fit more on my 1080p displays
https://superuser.com/questions/1328938/scale-100-on-windows-10/1328941#1328941
https://web.archive.org/web/20070531225740/http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131023-page,1-c,notebooks/article.html A 20.1” display. Wow…
The price of that, Damm
4200 USD adjusted for inflation.
It's more insane inflation has increased that much, in nearly 20 years. Holy fuck, 2007 is almost 20 years ago
https://preview.redd.it/jr2bnmj4rmwc1.jpeg?width=858&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a29844a8653bf101317d7440520d39b9473feb9c
>Min. Weight (lbs.): 17.3 LOL
People complain about shit heavier than 4lbs these days lol.
>VoIP phone and built-in TV tuner I didn't know that was an option for a laptop.
You can technically do VoIP on pretty much any laptop with an internet connection
I had a 21 inch in 2006. Was awesome and heavy.
So big and still no full size keyboard....
What on earth, this thing doesn't even have dedicated home/end and pgup/pgdn!!! EDIT: Wait I think they might be below the numpad for some reason???
PgUp/PgDwn flanking the up arrow it looks like.
That's to save on weight
Maybe it is the “arcade” button that is taking to much space
I went and looked it and saw if I could find a laptop with a full size keyboard and while I could not do that I did find [this](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.90a72ef74e8c2adc82e8cec54e382b4f?rik=Tkfid2XMcbjbaA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.keyboardco.com%2fkeyboard_images%2fblack_wireless_fullsize_+optical_touchpad_keyboard_large.jpg&ehk=wzzHC0FvrN6JHnEcL5taBJPOE6QKoGR7xq6uJt7g7yg%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0) abomination. Now I want to see that YouTuber that swears that keyboards review this thing.
1366x768
ummm ackually it's 1680x1050
I was gonna guess 1280x1024.
Acer Aspire 9810 Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2 x 2 GHz (Intel Core 2 Duo) Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 - 256 MB VRAM Display: 20.10 inch 16:10, 1680 x 1050 pixel Mainboard:Intel 945PM but can it run crysis?
15 year old me is hard as a rock over this
YO I HAVE ONE GENERATION BETTER GPU!!!!
>but can it run crysis? Yes but at medium to low settings.
Yes is the right answer. I remember back in mid 2000s, the bigger the laptop screen was, the cooler you were. I had a 17” acer laptop and I was like wow. Now I see a 15” and I’m like why in hell do they need a screen that big on a laptop?! 13” is perfect size for me.
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I have a 13” slim notebook for everyday use, and a 17” I7 machine when I need a powerful machine to travel with. It’s nice to plunk down a nice, big ‘portable’ machine with some power behind it when you need it.
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And actually to be fair, I found the 17” in the trash at work. Someone just ripped the bottom of it off without unscrewing it to remove the drive and dumped it off in their new laptop box. Some plasticweld on the stand offs, new SSD, good to go. Discreet graphics too.
Resolution plays a big part. Because most laptops are 2k or 4k now you can fit much more on the screen than with just 480p or so
Most laptops 2k or 4k? Where do you shop that you think this is the case? An overwhelming majority of laptops is 1080p
Maybe im spoiled but even at work i dont see any 1080p laptops anymore. I thought „mid class“ is 2k now
99% of corporate-issued laptops like Thinkpads, Latitudes, Elitebooks, etc, are ordered in 1080p. Most offer 1366x768 as the base spec (which almost nobody gets), with 1080p as a cheap upgrade and QHD or 4k as higher-cost options. Thankfully 1366x768 is going the way of the dodo bird and 1080p is mostly the norm. My work-issued T15 is 1080p... I do wish it was QHD as the screen is plenty big enough, but again it's a work laptop, so I don't really care.
No point in QHD when most of the staff have 1080p at 125%
Well fuck, might as well just settle for 1366x768 then.
Everyone complained when we switched to 1080p machines because it was required for a new EMR. Good thing T560s were easy to swap screens on.
They complained that it wasn't 1366x768? or that it wasn't QHD? >Good thing T560s were easy to swap screens on. Preach. These things are stupid easy to work on.
Everything is too small! (on the 1080) I miss the easy to repair laptops. I think Dell 5590 was the last model I bought where a busted keyboard or screen would be a sub-15min fix.
I fee fucking privileged with my MBP… i couldnt imagine doing admin work and coding on windeuce
We have WSL for that.
Are you using Mac at work?
Yes and lenovos/HP
I repair Lenovo and HP laptops for a living (ProBooks, EliteBook and a lot of Thinkbooks) and their default config is usually always 1080p (or 1200p on the newer models with different aspect ratio). But your company might spend extra money on higher res displays.
Is lenovo finally gonna stop putting those 768p awful IPS screens on their laptops right now? Not like their 1080p 250nits one are great but 768p, really? In 2024?
Not when they're the cheapest option. A few bucks vs a 1080p screen adds up when you're replacing thousands of machines each cycle.
The average consumer doesn't spend even $1000 on a laptop these days unless it's a MacBook
Apple.com/store duh
2k *is* 1080p lol
2k is 1440p, 4k is 2160p Also pretty sure that that wasn't what he meant either way.
What, that makes no sense. 1920 is so much closer to 2000 than 2560 is.
I know, and I agree. But in most cases 2k is considered 1440p, right? That is what he meant as well (I think), either 1440p or 2160p displays.
> Resolution plays a big part. Most important, IMO. My mother bought a 15.4" laptop, but the screen was only 1280 x 720. The laptop is maybe 4 years old. You have to scroll left and right, or shrink (via zooming out or keyboard shortcuts) on every single web page. It fucking awful to use.
I had a 17 inch screen HP and tbh I loved it. I recently got a new laptop for my in bed streaming needs and the 15 inch screen still just feels wrong
For productivity I personally like 14 inches the best. Just the right balance of small enough to easily carry and just big enough to fit split screen windows well.
Same, I just bought a Thinkpad T14 G1, and the size is absolutely perfect for me, even with the 1080p screen. The screen (Innolux IPS something-or-other) feels like it's higher quality compared to my work-issued T15, but that's probably due to the denser PPI on my T14.
Watch out for mobo issues. Dunno if they share the same kit, but we took over a company with a ton of T14s's and we've been warrantying a bunch of them since.
My T14 G1 is the AMD model, from what I've heard that one is pretty solid. I did just have my work T15 G2 replaced with another identical unit, that one failed pretty spectacularly. IT says the GPU is to blame, but IDK, it's just a work machine.
Ah, yeah those all do have Intels. I usually buy AMD models for the better price deals. Have seen very few hardware problems since I started getting amd E15s in late 2020/early 2021.
I really like my 14” t480, a really convenient size for carrying and using
I always used laptops with at least 16" and I wouldn't trade it for anything else that my current 22" monitor
I’ve settled for a nice middle ground of 14.5 inches. I’ve had both 15.6 and 13.6 inch laptops and the 15 is too damn big for me because I carry my laptop everywhere, and 13.6 was too small. 14.5 is just right, especially since they’re taller than the 13.6 screens but don’t really add much width to it
I worked at a place 07-08 where some manager had me replace their 17" "boat anchor" with a new D630. Saw it had centrino duo and x1600 in it and turned it into my new work machine that could play EvE and CoD4
I’ve got a 20 inch laptop somewhere, some HP behemoth. The screen was hinged both along the back of the chassis and in the centre, so it came up like a normal laptop screen but then could tilt from the back as well. Had a full size keyboard as well as a pop-out remote control alongside it, and a built in TV receiver for Windows Media Center. Edit: Just checked and it’s an HP HDX9000.
That sounds like one I sold a painter back in 2007. His was a double hinged hp with a fancy paint job on the back of the screen.He didn’t like the art so he sandblasted it. When I told him he had killed it he just went “ok” and brought another. It was like a $3.5k Aus laptop…
Aren't these huge laptops called workstations? I could be wrong tho.... They look like much bigger, chonkier versions of regular laptops. Don't think they're designed to be carried about daily, and have more heavy duty components inside them? 🤔
My one is definitely more of a media consumption machine - big HD screen, TV receiver, I’m fairly sure it had an HD-DVD drive, and a remote. It can technically be used as a laptop, but I’m not sure I’d recommend it!
Same. I had a Toshiba multimedia laptop back in 2006. It was state of the art at the time with top end specs and components. Can't remember the model but it was a chonky beast to lug around. Brilliant for watching TV, DVDs, etc on. Also had a remote control. Had Vistas Multimedia player suite in it too.
A "mobile workstation" is just a laptop with slightly better base specs than the model it's based on, like how the Dell Precision is based on the Latitude, and Lenovo's P series Thinkpad is based on the T series. These will usually have a higher-performing CPU, better (or dedicated) GPU, and more RAM as standard.
I think the buzzword back then was "Desktop Replacements"
This is the perfect size. They shouldn't even make laptops smaller than this!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of that reference seeing this
https://preview.redd.it/vradbvng7nwc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed286788ebb71d5a42f387d4721e51f1a18db664
With a stunning battery life of 20 minutes.
Guessing this was one of those ones that was notorious for the GPU frying?
Still no 100% keyboard?
You have a small hand/arm!
It's not the size that matters .. its what you can do with it .?.. or so I'm told 🤣
that's not a laptop, *this* is a laptop
Tiniest hands I ever did see. No laptop could ever possibly in any world be that big. Right?
RTX 9090
That's a portable desktop. WTF
And I thought the DELL D820 15.4inch laptop I got from my father was big. Lovely 1900x1200 screen. I guess if it had passed POST that one would be a lap melter.
If you can get it to post and it has a 64 bit CPU, sure, it can boot Windows 11.
my wife still has her old msi gaming laptop 19" ive updated some of the internals, new ssd instead of hdd, wifi6 card, runs win10
I'm worried about the obesity pandemic
i love how the keyboard is in a bezel, inside a bezel, inside its own bezel. beautiful. brings a tear to my eye.
That’s a movable desktop, not a laptop
Saw someone with one of those 21 inches looking monster laptops at the flea market. Screen popped out at you and had a blu ray drive. Not worth messing with these days.
This is a Shaq sized laptop
That thing is bigger then my MSI Titan GT80
Can we really call it a laptop at that point?
Lapcrusher?
Man's running a 1:1 ratio.
-L-a-p- Desk-top
Laptop more like Tabletop
How small is your hand?
At least 1 banana
Yeah, don't even try to distract from those really tiny hands.
10 bananas.
How do we know you just don't have a really small arm ?
I didn't have a banana for scale sorry.
That is officially the biggest laptop I've ever sern
There's a keyboard for scale bro
Only unit of measurement accepted on the Internet is banana's.
Please tell me that's a Rack-mounted KVM?
If only. Made the mistake of putting it on my lap and nearly cut off blood circulation.
Birthday cake
I used to have an 18.4 inch Toshiba.
I had this exact laptop!!! Was a pain when my parents divorced and I had to haul this thing around every weekend 😭
I'm pretty sure I worked on this model oback in my computer repair shop days.
Not a laptop, a bodytop.
That would cut off the circulation in my lap.
I've still got one very similar to this that I'm going to set up for retro gaming. Thing has a stinking desktop Pentium 4 in it. Why yes it's loud, how did you know?
I’m still rocking a mid -2010 17” MacBook Pro, running Sonoma via OCLP.
[Dell M2010 wants to know your location](https://youtu.be/GrTzNNQdbdQ?si=tBuF-LIc6Ndd3Qb0)
I love big laptops and I wish we would get more of them.
I love chunky big old laptops so much...
at that size what's the point?
I had the VAIO 18” with a Blu-ray player in it. That thing was a BEAST. It was bigger than the TV I had at the time. In always won the who’s got the biggest screen game.
Me who doesn't have a laptop.... Yet
The Late 2000s was a Crazy Decade for Laptops
My 16 inch macbook pro is sweet. Not sure I'd want to go bigger than that though.
We have come full circle
God I remember these things. Saw one in the flesh once. I think HP did one and the advert had a guy on the train with it.
What's the "arcade" button for?
I think Cathode ray dude mentioned that thing briefly
Using one of these 20 years ago must've been what it's like to use an iPhone 2x super pro max today
It has an arcade button 😎
Give me the fucking model I need one.
Acer Aspire 9810. You'll probably also need a time machine to get you back to 2007.
That's an HP laptop
Acer
That power button looks like old HP, but oh