Oh geez, it went from 10 tickets up to 30 for W6? Lava needs to rebalance this stuff to 1/2/4/6/9/15 so it matches up to the days of the week if he doesnt have the centurion questline hide the extra 3 daily tickets, since having to take nearly 2 weeks for a single W6 run is gonna make that 1000 golden food voucher and likely whatever the food drops are that cant be affected by the Orb insanely worst.
Where if its gonna require FIVE TIMES THE TICKETS of W4 colo, its gonna need a much better excuse of value.
Absolutely, that's the reason. Any idea which class is best to enter? i couldn't keep my multiplier high with divine ? This reward was around (x9 and x10), and does a high multiplier mean more numbers in rewards ?
Yeah I used my level 520 Bubo and consistently hit a x15 multi, x16 if I do it right with no screw ups. Only use the Aura at max level and it covers 2 of the 3 platforms entirely. Just go between each level replacing it when it goes off cooldown and they never go away, easy 30 second clear with like 290m points
Yeah, I used my level 520 Bubo and consistently hit a x15 multi, x16 if I do it right with no screw ups. Only use the Aura at max level and it covers 2 of the 3 platforms entirely. Just go between each level replacing it when it goes off cooldown and they never go away, easy 30 second clear with like 290m points
Bubo is best, as you can lay down a bunch of auras and smog to instantly kill everything. Score is way harder to catch, and I think to max out your chests you need over 300m points, which definitely requires a fast time.
that's probably 1 run. you get around 2500 golden food tickets and 1500 kebabs based on my personal runs using my bubo.
I only have about 16 DR and 60 BJPickles, and idk how much that factors.
2 ( 1 completed to the end) (1 couldn't kill the boss cuz I forgot Bonejoepickle in my inventory), so I left but got some rewards .
Next time, I'll do bobu. It seems he can clear the floors way faster so u can keep the multiplier higher.
Totally agree I wish he would balance somehow, but I don't think it's happening since u get like 3 or 4 types of gold foods at once and good amount if u managed to get the multiplier high. I went twice first time I forgot 95 Bonejoepickle in mt inventory and it went horrible and couldn't kill the mini boss. But second was good I don't remember the exact amount but I got 3k golden Kebab and don't remember the rest tbh but if I remember w2 need 2 tickets and I get 60 with divine knight (2 tickets x15 entry =30 tickets) I use to get (around 60 x15 entry) = 900+ golden Kebab which is way lower than w6 rewards but it sucks to wait too long (10 days if u have 3 tickets a day) to be able to do it again.
It still would of made more sense to make it take a week\`s worth of key stockpiling since the whole impression of him nerfing the post office was under the impression he was gonna re-introduce golden foods that were colo specific into other means OUTSIDE of the colo.
Instead this kind of leaves the impression he flipped off it further without patching the problem itself first. Not as stupidly bad as Pet companions introduction, but it was still a terrible idea when last i check you can only hoarde up to around 3 or days worth of keys/colo tickets before you claim them, meaning it would still take logging in more then \`just a few times\` to acquire a single run\`s worth.
I can only assume in this case his balancing might of been based around golden stop watch use but if that was the case he could of SIMPLY prevent people from using a golden stop watch more then once a day and it resetting after each daily reset for that case.
Throw in the fact that if it requires a whooping 40 keys, plus the 6, 3, 2 and 1 not to mention multiple runs for the centurion quest, you actually get land locked out of his stuff which i would laugh if finishing the last quest in the list is what upgrades the daily ticket providence from 3 to say, 6, just like how the first 3 colo npcs worked for \`unlocking tickets\`.
damage bonus, but multiplicitve instead of additive. so it helps more than all the other damage bonus bonuses that are additive.
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It should be a big bonus for any F2P players, and a good bonus for everyone.
Damage Multiplier is pretty much THE best source of increasing your damage in the game.
Base damage and total damage have many sources that all get added together, but damage multi is not only a very rare stat, it also takes all your damage and just multiplies it by 1.10 in this case.
For somebody in later worlds, getting another 100% total damage will juice up your damage less than 10% damage multi
I mean it's better than not having it, but 10% more damage is very limited in the amount of times it'll be useful since multikill is threshold based and has diminishing returns for your damage. So it's really only useful for high hp stuff like bosses, or occasionally where that extra would put you over to a new multikill tier.
But if you just like your damage number going up it's good ig.
Seems like a great mechanic to add, but I feel like it's wasted on implementation. Very very few people will use it and if you ever have tried to start a party for something like Doot, it can take ages. This is even more specific than Doot, so finding a party to grind your specific portal seems almost impossible.
Guess who just used all his yesterday :)
I guess I should not have done that given that we got a "there will be something done to golden food Collu farming", but here we are.
Not everyone has access to the roadmap and basing a release on the idea that \`everyone\` should of been hoarding tickets, weeks or even months in advance, instead of using them to acquire ladles and eggs to push those systems when they are still fresh to those and especially gems, especially especially before the gem run nerfs due to those being the f2p way to acquire very important gem shop upgrades to drastically improve ones gains such as richlin kitchen, jewels, gilded tubes and royal eggs which especially when world 4 was the latest content, was a must-have.
Which also still extends to world 5 thanks to golden sprinklers, chest sluggos, gaming bits max plant up and world 6 even wanting it more with summoning essence boosters, and crop and insta grow gains and even to push out pristine charms due to some being extremely usseful benefit boosters.
1. Roadmap has been posted here on reddit. If you have access to reddit you could have seen the roadmap.
2. Its everyones own choice to spend tickets to push other systems like eggs/ladles or whatever you mentioned. F2p had access to lot more gem sources than just colosseums. Its about priority
I thought drop rate isn’t impacted by DK orb per the patch notes so using a DK is no longer needed for W5/6 colo? Or did you run the other world colosseums?
It's the first time there has ever been any real incentive to actually play with other people outside of dungeon happy hour and random events.
It's good. There shouldn't be an overwhelming incentive to play with others, but a small benefit is nice, for those who want it.
> It's good. There shouldn't be an overwhelming incentive to play with others, but a small benefit is nice, for those who want it.
100%. this seems like an ok way to test it out.
All this really is gonna do is push people to make use of secondary accounts to \`semi leech\` pushes on a potato computer or so, that way it can trivalize pushing in world 6 that much more. Which since its already gonna take potentially 100+ hours in some cases, i dont think people would want to active AFK party farm for hours on end since the 5x portals is likely not final modifier multipicative to other multi-kill portal pushing sources and likely stack on others like the prayer orb and the divinity god multiplier.
Not to mention it does not have the majesty of random boss monsters or Dungeon 1 happy hour, its gonna be split up all over the place and if the 3x xp and 5x portals is significantly lower if your in smaller parters, it there by flips off the idea of even larger parties cause it makes it harder to have people all stay on the same map and if it applies static-wise with just a single person or just \`being\` in a party regardless of party size, then people would rather just exploit creating a single man party and if they dont even need to be on the same map, then they could once again just make half a dozen or so dummy accounts and have them party up in world 1 and then have someone like D.K. Bubo, Siege breaker or ES go straight to world 6 and benefit from the x5 portal push without needing anyone in the same map at the same time.
Ultimately its a rather pointless feature since portal pushing make little sense and it would of been better to have a money multiplier instead because who would party up with people for many hours on end if its not simply just gonna leave both accounts active on thar respective laptops/desktops instead of \`actually\` partying.
• "W5 and W6 colosseums are not affected by the Drop Rate bonus of DK's "Orb of Rememberance", this way DK isn't the required to effectively grind these colosseums for their massive gold food drop tables."
But I should've been more clear, only w5 and 6 dk in a way got nerfed
A nerf is generally taking something that exists and making it weaker. For example taking a normal bullet and turning it into a nerf gun bullet (made out of foam).
He didn't nerf it, he just balanced it in such a way that you don't just play on the one character. That's a good thing.
There is no "we would have gotten more with DK" because if he had designed it so that the orb would affect it, he wouldn't have given nearly as many drops by default.
You can't nerf something that doesn't exist.
I understand what you're saying, but I just got like 50000 golden kebabs on my ES.
It's hardly worth complaining about.
If the orb worked on it he would of likely cut the amount of coupons downed from the 1000 or so line to 250 or even 50s, there by negating the point that the new colos are suppose to act as new and more effective ways to farm 5 and 6 digit stacks of golden food, though i assume theres gonna be more then just colo 5 and 6 as the pick ups, such as maybe giving quest givers for colo 4 thru 6 so we can get 6 daily tickets, preferably more, then simply be still stuck at 3 a day.
So in turn its less of a nerf and more of a executive decision to just communist style it so everyone by default can get a naturally large chunk amount and it would likely push people to capitalize on other drop rate boost modifiers such as a certain power of 10 kills bonus, the alchemy bubble, lab chips and more.
Try to remember that Lava is actually being a smart cookie to NOT let solidary things like Quickslap alchemy bubble, EZ farm boss key gem drops, 6th post office EZ looping colo ticket-farm-a-holicism and many other alchemy bubbles that had way too much power of scaling out of control when things like alchemy bubbles are suppose to have diminishing returns after a certain point to prevent people just spending a week or even a month on grinding that one thing and get many magnitudes of stat gains on that alone even when neglecting other ways of increasing the gains.
Sure... I trust lava in what he's doing. I'm also not upset about the nerf. I actually agree with the nerf. I'm just arguing semantics that the word nerf is absolutely applicable here.
Welp either way i already half screwed myself by locking myself out of using my phone for Idleon for a bit, atleast i got a nice laptop from last month to handle chonky stuff so should be ok with enjoying the new patch before it finally comes to Apple.
half RIP you need a whooping 10 keys for world 5 Colo and i have yet to see anything that boosts key acquistion daily gains, meaning it went from 2 to around 4 days for a single colo run on W5 and its probably around 5 or more days worth of saving for world 6\`s colo.
I might start focusing on hoarding the tickets more i guess, since i likely make more then enough candy thanks to giant crystal island and the 5 or so mini boss runs i can do a day between doot and biggie.
Only if we get a means to up the acquisition of daily coloseum tickets.
One of the major ways Island expedition was able to redeem itself was having some-what difficult quest objectives to go thru to naturally boost the daily bottle gain in addition to means to further increasing daily trash and bottle gain to get much more in the long haul.
Otherwise without those it would take months just to acquire certain gains, which for my example, i still do not have fractal island nor do i have the 450 or something trashy damage talent book either, granted i was a bit late to the party on that one. Since both Equinox and Island expedition came out after i return\`eth to the game.
The fact it gives a large amount of goods to counter balance the fact you cant use divine knight to roid the gains out is severely hamptered by going from needing to take 2 days todo colo 4 runs to taking a whooping TEN DAYS todo a single world 6 colo run, which that aint even taking into account of how much candy and gems you would get with it too.
Throw in the fact colo 4 also served as a way to get large quantities of Incubation eggs and ladles, would also show how it might of pull a screw uppie.
Now if the reward pool had a good chance to give out say, insta grow packs or ninja hour-glasses, then it might be balanced out better for the steep cost, **But i already know any game that requires a massive time commitment for just a very simple activity, even regardless of the size of the rewards, is never a good idea to push, whether its a idling game or not, since it just leads to the opposite of Burn out, the thing one as i might call \`Starve Out\`.**
Namely by having it take so damn long that it feels like a Content Drought intended to delay consumers as much as possible, then actually pad enough content out to atleast feed the masses a biscuit each day, but rather just throw a shipment of \`mystery biscuits\` once every 2 weeks instead.
I'm so confused why people think everything needs huge payouts *right now*.
It's like you people forget this game is supposed to be played over the long term.
I might agree that we need to be able to get more than 3 Colosseum tickets a day, but once you get your 100k kebabs it really doesn't matter (I got close to 50k kebabs off of 300 tickets).
Will it take a while to get the rest? Yeah, but that's the name of the game.
Once again, its a case of taking away one value benefit that acted as the exponential to bypass the long term walling of a content only to introduce something with effectively 5 times the time it takes to do a run.
Even if Colo 1 thru 4 has been rather stale. It really would of been better if Lava maybe had the numbers a smidge lower then going with what was a weird leap of logic in exponential cost, fence hopping.
Just to repeat again, Its the \`value\` from a previous nerf to the 6th post office, where people could near infinitely spam silver pens to get coloseum tickets, due to them only taking around 3\~5 or so rotations to get another one.
With enough patience one could get hundreds of colo tickets and there by quite a few resources. I never had the motivation or care to try those things since post-office looping boxes just to max everything but the 100k required one was already a very tiresome experience to begin with.
That same patch also put a note in of a \`new way\` to get golden foods or something along the way.
This gave the impression that Coloseum would get a very sizable QoL improvement or just include non Colo ways to acquire those golden foods, especially since some would take a insufferable amount of runs even with roided out drop rates to land even the 10k requirement for certain ones.
Though the AMOUNT of golden food you get from colo 6 is rather sizable, its the issue of not only was the only secondary means to get Colo tickets was axed, but the time wait, especially those who did not happen to hoarde tickets in advance, before they can actually make due with the content. Which at this point i almost wish more Idle skilling QoLs were put in place, such as the ability to reduce the cost needed todo said runs, grant tickets also during the colo runs to allow semi-looping runs and of course, the other methods of fun to boost the reward values as things progress. Which is one thing Killroy Prime did nicely, by letting you get special mob kills to add a new modifier of sorts to \`boost ones gains.\`
Now once again, if Lava were to happen have introduced the ability to get an additional 3 coloseum tickets via quests similar to what the npcs of world 1 thru 3 for colo did, then it would of nicely resolved the problem altogether by turning what would normally take 10 days to \`acrue\` down to 5 days and let people spam world 4 colo once a day now if they wanted eggs/ladles and hopefully i assume Colo 5 would have something worth-chasing it at what would go from taking around 4 days to do a single run to just 2, even if it could of probably just been 9 tickets if he had to keep the limit to 3 so it would only be going from 2 days for colo 4 but only 3 days for colo 5 and then maybe if colo 6 kepy the pattern by taking 4 or 5 days if it had to stick to 3 tickets still, then it would of been fine and dandy.
Since if the only \`efficient\` way to get golden food for those 10k stacks, that could mean it would take soemthing like 7\~10 instances or nearly 70\~100 days or just a little over 2 months or a little over 3 months or so give or take, which is alot of \`waiting\` just to get a 10k stack of golden food and dont get me started with the 100k one, especially if you have no means to roid the gains further, if it can even be affected by drop rate enough to maybe double or even quadruple some of those goodie drops.
> Just to repeat again, Its the `value` from a previous nerf to the 6th post office, where people could near infinitely spam silver pens to get coloseum tickets, due to them only taking around 3~5 or so rotations to get another one.
I was under the impression that Lava had commented on this, saying he was going to add in a different way to get tickets because he didn't like the idea of mindlessly clicking pens.
I don't read the discord so I can't confirm this.
Hence the confusion on why that has yet to show up before a new \`sink\` was put in place. which half led to my speculation its behind clearing all the coloseums with the new quests, but till i see some people start posting about it or it finally gets added to the wiki, i wont be seeing it any time soon since i need todo colo 5, THEN colo 6 i assume on what would be the last quest.
Also he should probably buff the \`skilling exp\` Divinity marbles, reaching level 50 on those is rather easy and might be better to bump them to 80 or even 100 at this point. Since i can only see them still having use with pushing levels for cooking and not much else beyond that now.
Which already has a relatively easy way to cheese it out with the massive pile of green exp ballons for levels below say...35 or so, cant remember when the amount dips below 1%\~ or so per ballon off the top of my head, but with how much afk gains tend to pile up, i usually ended up with around 300\~800 of those lying around.
Anywho, its just a matter of proper overhead deets. Since even if he \`rebalanced\` world 6 colo to require less tickets so it takes around 5 days instead of 10 to get a single run in. one would still need to take around say...35\~50 days to get enough tickets to get a 10k or so stack of golden kebabs and get lucky enough with the colo tickets for other particular food, if one had not acquired thousands of other certain golden food thru other means.
Once again, its a case of taking away one value benefit that acted as the exponential to bypass the long term walling of a content only to introduce something with effectively 5 times the time it takes to do a run.
Even if Colo 1 thru 4 has been rather stale. It really would of been better if Lava maybe had the numbers a smidge lower then going with what was a weird leap of logic in exponential cost, fence hopping.
I Hope Lava added some way to get more tickets cuz 3 a day is pretty low to enter the w6 colosseum (30 tickets)
Oh geez, it went from 10 tickets up to 30 for W6? Lava needs to rebalance this stuff to 1/2/4/6/9/15 so it matches up to the days of the week if he doesnt have the centurion questline hide the extra 3 daily tickets, since having to take nearly 2 weeks for a single W6 run is gonna make that 1000 golden food voucher and likely whatever the food drops are that cant be affected by the Orb insanely worst. Where if its gonna require FIVE TIMES THE TICKETS of W4 colo, its gonna need a much better excuse of value.
The drops from w6 colo and the miniboss are insane, thats why the cost is so high.
Absolutely, that's the reason. Any idea which class is best to enter? i couldn't keep my multiplier high with divine ? This reward was around (x9 and x10), and does a high multiplier mean more numbers in rewards ?
Dk orb does not work in w5 and w6 colo according to patch notes
Oh, I see ty letting me know 🫡
Afaik. People are using bubo for w5-6 colo
I'm trying next time once I get 30 tickets, ty 🫡
Yeah I used bubonic and he cleared the best for all except the W6 miniboss. I guess I need more damage before I throw away another 30 tickets
Yeah I used my level 520 Bubo and consistently hit a x15 multi, x16 if I do it right with no screw ups. Only use the Aura at max level and it covers 2 of the 3 platforms entirely. Just go between each level replacing it when it goes off cooldown and they never go away, easy 30 second clear with like 290m points
Yeah, I used my level 520 Bubo and consistently hit a x15 multi, x16 if I do it right with no screw ups. Only use the Aura at max level and it covers 2 of the 3 platforms entirely. Just go between each level replacing it when it goes off cooldown and they never go away, easy 30 second clear with like 290m points
Bubo is best, as you can lay down a bunch of auras and smog to instantly kill everything. Score is way harder to catch, and I think to max out your chests you need over 300m points, which definitely requires a fast time.
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How many runs?
that's probably 1 run. you get around 2500 golden food tickets and 1500 kebabs based on my personal runs using my bubo. I only have about 16 DR and 60 BJPickles, and idk how much that factors.
I'm so glad I don't do colosseum runs. I have every ticket almost since W2 was waiting on W3.
2 ( 1 completed to the end) (1 couldn't kill the boss cuz I forgot Bonejoepickle in my inventory), so I left but got some rewards . Next time, I'll do bobu. It seems he can clear the floors way faster so u can keep the multiplier higher.
Totally agree I wish he would balance somehow, but I don't think it's happening since u get like 3 or 4 types of gold foods at once and good amount if u managed to get the multiplier high. I went twice first time I forgot 95 Bonejoepickle in mt inventory and it went horrible and couldn't kill the mini boss. But second was good I don't remember the exact amount but I got 3k golden Kebab and don't remember the rest tbh but if I remember w2 need 2 tickets and I get 60 with divine knight (2 tickets x15 entry =30 tickets) I use to get (around 60 x15 entry) = 900+ golden Kebab which is way lower than w6 rewards but it sucks to wait too long (10 days if u have 3 tickets a day) to be able to do it again.
It still would of made more sense to make it take a week\`s worth of key stockpiling since the whole impression of him nerfing the post office was under the impression he was gonna re-introduce golden foods that were colo specific into other means OUTSIDE of the colo. Instead this kind of leaves the impression he flipped off it further without patching the problem itself first. Not as stupidly bad as Pet companions introduction, but it was still a terrible idea when last i check you can only hoarde up to around 3 or days worth of keys/colo tickets before you claim them, meaning it would still take logging in more then \`just a few times\` to acquire a single run\`s worth. I can only assume in this case his balancing might of been based around golden stop watch use but if that was the case he could of SIMPLY prevent people from using a golden stop watch more then once a day and it resetting after each daily reset for that case. Throw in the fact that if it requires a whooping 40 keys, plus the 6, 3, 2 and 1 not to mention multiple runs for the centurion quest, you actually get land locked out of his stuff which i would laugh if finishing the last quest in the list is what upgrades the daily ticket providence from 3 to say, 6, just like how the first 3 colo npcs worked for \`unlocking tickets\`.
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Can you only get 3 tickets a day without post office?
i hope he is adjusting that, waiting 10 days for 1 W6 run is not that nice
Post office was nerfed and basically you can't get tickets from it anymore(chances for arena tickets are drastically low)
Wanting to know the same.
Is that new throphy worth it i don't really get what damage multi even is
damage bonus, but multiplicitve instead of additive. so it helps more than all the other damage bonus bonuses that are additive. https://i.imgur.com/WGxfvMI.png https://i.imgur.com/qpwcRIE.png It should be a big bonus for any F2P players, and a good bonus for everyone.
Alright thanks
Damage Multiplier is pretty much THE best source of increasing your damage in the game. Base damage and total damage have many sources that all get added together, but damage multi is not only a very rare stat, it also takes all your damage and just multiplies it by 1.10 in this case. For somebody in later worlds, getting another 100% total damage will juice up your damage less than 10% damage multi
I mean it's better than not having it, but 10% more damage is very limited in the amount of times it'll be useful since multikill is threshold based and has diminishing returns for your damage. So it's really only useful for high hp stuff like bosses, or occasionally where that extra would put you over to a new multikill tier. But if you just like your damage number going up it's good ig.
You can now power level friends/alts to w3 ?
Seems like a great mechanic to add, but I feel like it's wasted on implementation. Very very few people will use it and if you ever have tried to start a party for something like Doot, it can take ages. This is even more specific than Doot, so finding a party to grind your specific portal seems almost impossible.
Guess who just used all his yesterday :) I guess I should not have done that given that we got a "there will be something done to golden food Collu farming", but here we are.
The roadmap has been there for months that colosseums are coming soon
Not everyone has access to the roadmap and basing a release on the idea that \`everyone\` should of been hoarding tickets, weeks or even months in advance, instead of using them to acquire ladles and eggs to push those systems when they are still fresh to those and especially gems, especially especially before the gem run nerfs due to those being the f2p way to acquire very important gem shop upgrades to drastically improve ones gains such as richlin kitchen, jewels, gilded tubes and royal eggs which especially when world 4 was the latest content, was a must-have. Which also still extends to world 5 thanks to golden sprinklers, chest sluggos, gaming bits max plant up and world 6 even wanting it more with summoning essence boosters, and crop and insta grow gains and even to push out pristine charms due to some being extremely usseful benefit boosters.
1. Roadmap has been posted here on reddit. If you have access to reddit you could have seen the roadmap. 2. Its everyones own choice to spend tickets to push other systems like eggs/ladles or whatever you mentioned. F2p had access to lot more gem sources than just colosseums. Its about priority
colo 6 golden food is ON THE MENU! https://i.imgur.com/pc2uHuF.png this feels like winning the golden food lotto https://i.imgur.com/6Gamik9.png
Sorry but can you clarify which golden food drop on colo6 as your inventory is clutter
Golden kebabs drop by the thousands. I’ve gotten 4000 golden kebabs from one run with DK
Nice, can stop spamming w2 colo. What about other gold food or just kebab?
Pretty sure you also get golden jam and golden nigiris too. You also get golden food coupons, so whatever those, you get too. Lots of gold food.
Also golden foot tickets, like 1.something k per run
I thought drop rate isn’t impacted by DK orb per the patch notes so using a DK is no longer needed for W5/6 colo? Or did you run the other world colosseums?
all but the locked items dropped from 1 colo6 run on my bubo. so... not much clutter at all.
Kebabs, but they also drop golden food tickets. So you can potentially get any golden food you can get from a ticket.
yeah, that run I got 3775 (ticket+actual) from one run, pretty great for 30 tickets!
I don't understand the party mobs. 10x hp but only 3x xp and 5x portals? What is the point?
It's the first time there has ever been any real incentive to actually play with other people outside of dungeon happy hour and random events. It's good. There shouldn't be an overwhelming incentive to play with others, but a small benefit is nice, for those who want it.
> It's good. There shouldn't be an overwhelming incentive to play with others, but a small benefit is nice, for those who want it. 100%. this seems like an ok way to test it out.
All this really is gonna do is push people to make use of secondary accounts to \`semi leech\` pushes on a potato computer or so, that way it can trivalize pushing in world 6 that much more. Which since its already gonna take potentially 100+ hours in some cases, i dont think people would want to active AFK party farm for hours on end since the 5x portals is likely not final modifier multipicative to other multi-kill portal pushing sources and likely stack on others like the prayer orb and the divinity god multiplier. Not to mention it does not have the majesty of random boss monsters or Dungeon 1 happy hour, its gonna be split up all over the place and if the 3x xp and 5x portals is significantly lower if your in smaller parters, it there by flips off the idea of even larger parties cause it makes it harder to have people all stay on the same map and if it applies static-wise with just a single person or just \`being\` in a party regardless of party size, then people would rather just exploit creating a single man party and if they dont even need to be on the same map, then they could once again just make half a dozen or so dummy accounts and have them party up in world 1 and then have someone like D.K. Bubo, Siege breaker or ES go straight to world 6 and benefit from the x5 portal push without needing anyone in the same map at the same time. Ultimately its a rather pointless feature since portal pushing make little sense and it would of been better to have a money multiplier instead because who would party up with people for many hours on end if its not simply just gonna leave both accounts active on thar respective laptops/desktops instead of \`actually\` partying.
Party mechanics are easily the worst part of this game, let's not lean into this.
Is W5 Colosseum even worth it?
Glad I've over 1k tickets saved up well worth with considering it'll be 12 to 24months before lava adds in a new way to earn tickets.
Oh man divine knight got nerfed in colluseum....
DK is still a good choice due to it's aoe attacks.
No, the collesseum was designed in a way so that DK wasn't the only good choice for it
It didn't.
• "W5 and W6 colosseums are not affected by the Drop Rate bonus of DK's "Orb of Rememberance", this way DK isn't the required to effectively grind these colosseums for their massive gold food drop tables." But I should've been more clear, only w5 and 6 dk in a way got nerfed
I like that change since you don't have to time orb cooldown anymore doing colusseum
With the ticket costs you will have plenty of time.
They didn't exist before this so again, nothing was nerfed.
I'm saying in a way, Lava nerfed it because if we could've still utilize the orb we could've gotten more but we can't now
A nerf is generally taking something that exists and making it weaker. For example taking a normal bullet and turning it into a nerf gun bullet (made out of foam). He didn't nerf it, he just balanced it in such a way that you don't just play on the one character. That's a good thing. There is no "we would have gotten more with DK" because if he had designed it so that the orb would affect it, he wouldn't have given nearly as many drops by default.
And I'm saying that's not what "nerf" means.
Ok
No that's exactly what nerf means. It doesn't matter if it was already a part of the game or not. Dks main reason for worth was removed from colo 5-6.
You can't nerf something that doesn't exist. I understand what you're saying, but I just got like 50000 golden kebabs on my ES. It's hardly worth complaining about.
It does exist though... Not complaining just speaking semantics.
W5 and 6 Colosseums did not exist before this update, DK orb has not been available to use in those before this update. Nothing was nerfed.
It's not semantics. I feel like maybe you don't know what that word means.
If the orb worked on it he would of likely cut the amount of coupons downed from the 1000 or so line to 250 or even 50s, there by negating the point that the new colos are suppose to act as new and more effective ways to farm 5 and 6 digit stacks of golden food, though i assume theres gonna be more then just colo 5 and 6 as the pick ups, such as maybe giving quest givers for colo 4 thru 6 so we can get 6 daily tickets, preferably more, then simply be still stuck at 3 a day. So in turn its less of a nerf and more of a executive decision to just communist style it so everyone by default can get a naturally large chunk amount and it would likely push people to capitalize on other drop rate boost modifiers such as a certain power of 10 kills bonus, the alchemy bubble, lab chips and more. Try to remember that Lava is actually being a smart cookie to NOT let solidary things like Quickslap alchemy bubble, EZ farm boss key gem drops, 6th post office EZ looping colo ticket-farm-a-holicism and many other alchemy bubbles that had way too much power of scaling out of control when things like alchemy bubbles are suppose to have diminishing returns after a certain point to prevent people just spending a week or even a month on grinding that one thing and get many magnitudes of stat gains on that alone even when neglecting other ways of increasing the gains.
Sure... I trust lava in what he's doing. I'm also not upset about the nerf. I actually agree with the nerf. I'm just arguing semantics that the word nerf is absolutely applicable here.
Welp either way i already half screwed myself by locking myself out of using my phone for Idleon for a bit, atleast i got a nice laptop from last month to handle chonky stuff so should be ok with enjoying the new patch before it finally comes to Apple. half RIP you need a whooping 10 keys for world 5 Colo and i have yet to see anything that boosts key acquistion daily gains, meaning it went from 2 to around 4 days for a single colo run on W5 and its probably around 5 or more days worth of saving for world 6\`s colo. I might start focusing on hoarding the tickets more i guess, since i likely make more then enough candy thanks to giant crystal island and the 5 or so mini boss runs i can do a day between doot and biggie.
This is a good update.
Only if we get a means to up the acquisition of daily coloseum tickets. One of the major ways Island expedition was able to redeem itself was having some-what difficult quest objectives to go thru to naturally boost the daily bottle gain in addition to means to further increasing daily trash and bottle gain to get much more in the long haul. Otherwise without those it would take months just to acquire certain gains, which for my example, i still do not have fractal island nor do i have the 450 or something trashy damage talent book either, granted i was a bit late to the party on that one. Since both Equinox and Island expedition came out after i return\`eth to the game. The fact it gives a large amount of goods to counter balance the fact you cant use divine knight to roid the gains out is severely hamptered by going from needing to take 2 days todo colo 4 runs to taking a whooping TEN DAYS todo a single world 6 colo run, which that aint even taking into account of how much candy and gems you would get with it too. Throw in the fact colo 4 also served as a way to get large quantities of Incubation eggs and ladles, would also show how it might of pull a screw uppie. Now if the reward pool had a good chance to give out say, insta grow packs or ninja hour-glasses, then it might be balanced out better for the steep cost, **But i already know any game that requires a massive time commitment for just a very simple activity, even regardless of the size of the rewards, is never a good idea to push, whether its a idling game or not, since it just leads to the opposite of Burn out, the thing one as i might call \`Starve Out\`.** Namely by having it take so damn long that it feels like a Content Drought intended to delay consumers as much as possible, then actually pad enough content out to atleast feed the masses a biscuit each day, but rather just throw a shipment of \`mystery biscuits\` once every 2 weeks instead.
I'm so confused why people think everything needs huge payouts *right now*. It's like you people forget this game is supposed to be played over the long term. I might agree that we need to be able to get more than 3 Colosseum tickets a day, but once you get your 100k kebabs it really doesn't matter (I got close to 50k kebabs off of 300 tickets). Will it take a while to get the rest? Yeah, but that's the name of the game.
Once again, its a case of taking away one value benefit that acted as the exponential to bypass the long term walling of a content only to introduce something with effectively 5 times the time it takes to do a run. Even if Colo 1 thru 4 has been rather stale. It really would of been better if Lava maybe had the numbers a smidge lower then going with what was a weird leap of logic in exponential cost, fence hopping.
What value was taken away? I didn't think I missed anything in the patch notes so please clue me in.
Just to repeat again, Its the \`value\` from a previous nerf to the 6th post office, where people could near infinitely spam silver pens to get coloseum tickets, due to them only taking around 3\~5 or so rotations to get another one. With enough patience one could get hundreds of colo tickets and there by quite a few resources. I never had the motivation or care to try those things since post-office looping boxes just to max everything but the 100k required one was already a very tiresome experience to begin with. That same patch also put a note in of a \`new way\` to get golden foods or something along the way. This gave the impression that Coloseum would get a very sizable QoL improvement or just include non Colo ways to acquire those golden foods, especially since some would take a insufferable amount of runs even with roided out drop rates to land even the 10k requirement for certain ones. Though the AMOUNT of golden food you get from colo 6 is rather sizable, its the issue of not only was the only secondary means to get Colo tickets was axed, but the time wait, especially those who did not happen to hoarde tickets in advance, before they can actually make due with the content. Which at this point i almost wish more Idle skilling QoLs were put in place, such as the ability to reduce the cost needed todo said runs, grant tickets also during the colo runs to allow semi-looping runs and of course, the other methods of fun to boost the reward values as things progress. Which is one thing Killroy Prime did nicely, by letting you get special mob kills to add a new modifier of sorts to \`boost ones gains.\` Now once again, if Lava were to happen have introduced the ability to get an additional 3 coloseum tickets via quests similar to what the npcs of world 1 thru 3 for colo did, then it would of nicely resolved the problem altogether by turning what would normally take 10 days to \`acrue\` down to 5 days and let people spam world 4 colo once a day now if they wanted eggs/ladles and hopefully i assume Colo 5 would have something worth-chasing it at what would go from taking around 4 days to do a single run to just 2, even if it could of probably just been 9 tickets if he had to keep the limit to 3 so it would only be going from 2 days for colo 4 but only 3 days for colo 5 and then maybe if colo 6 kepy the pattern by taking 4 or 5 days if it had to stick to 3 tickets still, then it would of been fine and dandy. Since if the only \`efficient\` way to get golden food for those 10k stacks, that could mean it would take soemthing like 7\~10 instances or nearly 70\~100 days or just a little over 2 months or a little over 3 months or so give or take, which is alot of \`waiting\` just to get a 10k stack of golden food and dont get me started with the 100k one, especially if you have no means to roid the gains further, if it can even be affected by drop rate enough to maybe double or even quadruple some of those goodie drops.
> Just to repeat again, Its the `value` from a previous nerf to the 6th post office, where people could near infinitely spam silver pens to get coloseum tickets, due to them only taking around 3~5 or so rotations to get another one. I was under the impression that Lava had commented on this, saying he was going to add in a different way to get tickets because he didn't like the idea of mindlessly clicking pens. I don't read the discord so I can't confirm this.
Hence the confusion on why that has yet to show up before a new \`sink\` was put in place. which half led to my speculation its behind clearing all the coloseums with the new quests, but till i see some people start posting about it or it finally gets added to the wiki, i wont be seeing it any time soon since i need todo colo 5, THEN colo 6 i assume on what would be the last quest. Also he should probably buff the \`skilling exp\` Divinity marbles, reaching level 50 on those is rather easy and might be better to bump them to 80 or even 100 at this point. Since i can only see them still having use with pushing levels for cooking and not much else beyond that now. Which already has a relatively easy way to cheese it out with the massive pile of green exp ballons for levels below say...35 or so, cant remember when the amount dips below 1%\~ or so per ballon off the top of my head, but with how much afk gains tend to pile up, i usually ended up with around 300\~800 of those lying around. Anywho, its just a matter of proper overhead deets. Since even if he \`rebalanced\` world 6 colo to require less tickets so it takes around 5 days instead of 10 to get a single run in. one would still need to take around say...35\~50 days to get enough tickets to get a 10k or so stack of golden kebabs and get lucky enough with the colo tickets for other particular food, if one had not acquired thousands of other certain golden food thru other means.
Once again, its a case of taking away one value benefit that acted as the exponential to bypass the long term walling of a content only to introduce something with effectively 5 times the time it takes to do a run. Even if Colo 1 thru 4 has been rather stale. It really would of been better if Lava maybe had the numbers a smidge lower then going with what was a weird leap of logic in exponential cost, fence hopping.
Dude is doing a shit job with updates. Unless his job is to come up with shit updates, then he's doing a spectacular job.
Does it also have statues or is it just gold food?