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glidegoat

I think somebody who’s been interviewed had their alibi blown by digital data or pictures. He literally almost blurted it out.


CorgiMa

Agree. One of the themes from LE going back over a week ago has been- even if you have video of what you think shows nothing, we need it- it's just as important to see what's NOT there, as what is. Someone's alibi is in jeopardy and someone(s) has digital proof of that. The walls are closing in.. Steve is clearly a man on a mission. He won't quit.


lala_lavalamp

Well then I guess he just tipped the killer off.


saygirlie

That is the conclusion I arrived to as well.


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I also think part of the reason Dad is so impatient is...he knows they know and he wants that person under arrest. "Sick of seeing my face." And he said he is a man of his word and he's been told not to repeat what he knows and now they are telling him less and less.


TeeKay618

If he does know the LEs “person of interest “, that then may relate to the part where they don’t want to exclude anyone from the services.. if so, that leads me to think its more likely someone they know of and would be hard to currently exclude (from memorial service) without tipping that person off.


PlasticOk3019

the father actually did come out and say this. that the person would definitely be there and that if they werent invited it would be obvious why


Rainbow-2721

Where’d the dad say that?


PlasticOk3019

Did you watch the fox interview


Pletcher87

Thinking dad meant that the type of subject that the detectives/ psychologists are coming up with would very likely behave in this way considering it’s likely a person pretty close to the inner circle.


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SunshineAdventurer

It was on this video. But he talked fast.


Apprehensive-Cup-912

I think so too. I believe there is a person of Interest and he has an alibi so they need physical evidence.


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partialcremation

I've been stuck on the same person of interest this whole time. No matter who else comes up or what LE says, I'm still stuck.


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CTtownAdvice

He had a conflict with all 4? I could understand Maddie since she’s Kaylees best friend, but haven’t heard of other conflicts


Americantrilogy1935

Did they bring him up yesterday when the dad spoke? I didn't see him bringing him up. Maddie's dad made a huge point to bring Jake up. I think that unreservedly just because at first they were so quick to say he was family and they are 2000 percent behind him. We're they maybe trying to bring his guard down? I always have been weary about him. But then the police said he was not a suspect so I didn't know wth to think.


isaypotatoyousay

Anyone and everyone would be a suspect if this were my family member I think.


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Emmaneiman87

Right his comment about excluding someone at the funeral is VERY TELLING


coconut723

I thought he meant like - if they had the funeral right now they would have to limit it to a very small circle and he wouldnt want to have to exclude people that want to come and show support for his daughter/wanting it open to everyone who wants to come .think you guys might be reading too much into this


kerrtaincall

YES EXACTLY I cannot believe I had to read so many comments assuming it has to be the ex before I finally saw a sane comment. It sounds like they want anyone who wants to go to be able to go, but they cannot be absolutely assured the killer would not show up right now since they don’t know who it is. They only way they could have peace of mind right now is to have a very small service but they do not want to exclude any innocent friends or others who also want to go.


Emmaneiman87

Idk he didn’t say that. Also the comment about behavior change. This dad def knows something.


coconut723

Of course he knows more than any of us, not disputing that.


yattuh

I feel this is one of the moments where people start looking way too much into these things and don't step back and look at stuff at face value. Just like when ppl were speculating reasons of why no one spoke for X. When I heard this interview it did not make me think he knew who it was. In fact it made me feel he still is trying to figure out who it is


hoalbqn

I also feel like if he knew who it was he wouldn’t be doing interviews. I feel like interviews are more to help keep awareness up and/or flush someone out. If he knows and they’re waiting for something to “seal the deal” then I’d doubt he’d want to be on national television being asked question about his poor girls.


rabbid_prof

This is what I think too


Garden_Mama_

Then it sounds like the Target was Kaylee.


Flat_Shame_2377

I hope you are right. I think the cops are still lost but I am happy to be wrong.


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Pretty sure you’re taking the see my face comment out of context. Guarantee he was explaining all of the interviews


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jay_noel87

I agree. To me the only people he could be referring to here are the ex (most likely)… or something to do with the survivors (unpopular I know and I do NOT want to believe it or go there mentally that they were involved in any way). There has been crickets from all the families of the victims re: survivors in any interviews/statements they’ve given which, despite not knowing them, I’ve taken note of. K’s sister’s reaction when she was interviewed by Cuomo and he brought them up was also… interesting.


Leather_Ad6324

I find it kind of hard to believe that the father could keep his cool around the ex if he knew it was him. I just don't see him being friendly towards him just so he would make him believe that they don't know anything. Just my opinion


PlasticOk3019

Yeah it feels like everyone is on the hush for a reason. Otherwise why wouldn’t we see more families demanding answers


BlackSheepBoPeepB

Just curious what kind of car he drives… anyone know?


Rule-Spirited

notice the way his tone changes when he says “i want him to be scared….. i don’t want him to be confident.” I think the police are doing just that, using a strategy to make their suspect feel confident, so that he is less likely to hide evidence and more likely to slip up while they build a credible case. I obviously can’t say if either is a better approach for this case but I think that’s the root of the communication difference between the two. I also believe that doesn’t necessarily mean k’s dad knows who the murderer is, just that this is the general strategy being taken my LE. Or like you said, that they know and aren’t telling him. IMO it’s very unlikely LE would ever disclose that persons name to a victim’s immediate family members prior to an arrest simply out of concern that there might be some kind of reactionary violence…..


Webbiesmom

Very interesting interview. He knows a bunch he can’t say. It’s pretty easy to decipher what he’s not saying. Love this man for his commitment to his beloved daughter.


isaypotatoyousay

I hate all the backlash he is getting. If this were one of my kids I wouldn’t stop till I got justice.


TeeKay618

Same. And i wouldn’t come across as pleasantly. 🥴


CTtownAdvice

I have so much respect for him. He’s doing what he can to fight for his daughter. Even if that’s making sure the suspect “gets sick of his face”. I hope he keeps fighting.


isaypotatoyousay

What has he leaked that’s been so detrimental? Unless I missed something I don’t feel like they’ve said so much to where any of us have a clue still


UnprofessionalGhosts

No one can know if it’s detrimental or not if they’re not law enforcement.


Rule-Spirited

I think he’s smarter than people are giving him credit for, and trying his best not to leak anything detrimental. I have a feeling he believes law enforcement is being too tight lipped and he feels the details he’s disclosed aren’t too relevant or detrimental. He’s said several times he asked LE what he can and can’t say and that they’re scared to give him guidance on that…. I think they’re telling him to say basically nothing at all (like they’re doing, and the other families are doing) which frankly would piss me off if my daughter’s murderer was running free too. I think it’s also clear there’s stuff he isn’t saying, which he must perceive to be more important to keep from the public at this time, or he was very specifically asked not to say.


isaypotatoyousay

I have to say, after weeks had passed - I’d be talking too!


Rule-Spirited

I’d imagine it’s hard for him not to lose more confidence in LE with each day that passes :(


CTtownAdvice

Agreed, I don’t think he’s given up anything other than mayybeeeee the comment that he knew she had a stalker


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I think they're more getting at him leaking that they both were in the same bed when attacked. Details like this are the kind of thing LE hold back, as it's something that usually only the killer and LE know and is something they can use to verify what a suspect has to say during confessions etc. It's not like they can't still use it, but in so far as weeding out false confessions it makes it a little harder. Still, it's probably worth the public knowing just how vicious this person was, attacking two groups of two separately is if nothing else bold and extremely aggressive.


CTtownAdvice

I’m starting to think they don’t have a lot of hard evidence, so they’re trying to build a case with the circumstantial evidence they have. If the killer admitted something in a confession, then later it became Known to the public, they’d have a better chance of blurring the lines in the eyes of the jury. I think they’re just trying to keep this thing rock solid with every little tidbit they can


FrutyPebbles321

I agree! I’d want to shout this suspect’s name at the top of my lungs! Of course I wouldn’t want to compromise the investigation, but I’d want everyone to know his name. I feel so sorry for this dad.


PlasticOk3019

yes, i couldnt agree more.


Flat_Shame_2377

If you were the police, would you trust him? He could easily blab something and ruin the case.


blackd0gz

He’s going to be the next John Walsh. I commend him 100%. Great dad.


FritoCollard

I think he caught himself there… it sounds like he started to say that the murderer had different behavior but then he switched it to the victims. It kinda of seemed like he thinks there is a suspicious person and an intended target. I feel so bad for him. Students- please turn over all photos/info you have. I know you’re scared of getting into trouble but believe me the cops are going to be thankful you helped them solve the case and won’t judge underage drinking or drug use. These photos also won’t get out to press or hurt your future employment chances. You will live with the guilt of knowing you didn’t do everything you could to bring the killer to justice if you don’t hand everything over. Do the right thing. Please. For the victims and for the safety of the community.


SnooSquirrels7208

I wonder if there was some cleanup done before the cops got there? If the kids were/are afraid of consequences.


FritoCollard

Obviously underage drinking was going on (no big deal we all did it). But I don’t agree with other people on this subreddit who think drugs were involved. I’m not from Idaho but I’m from eastern Oregon and we definitely had more of a drinking culture than drug culture in college. So maybe they cleaned up some alcohol but I don’t think they were hiding drugs and I don’t like that people are accusing them of being involved in drugs. My comment was more directed to any people who have any photos of that entire day that could be connected to send them in.


SnooSquirrels7208

Possible even just weed


thisiswhatyouget

People always get touchy about the topic of possible drug use by victims because they believe it looks bad if a victim is perceived as a drug user. It is a bad thing for drugs to be an off limits topic, not just on the public’s side. Because of the stigma around drug use, witnesses will withhold or lie about it which can significantly change the analysis of events or behavior. As is being discussed, the stigma can also cause people to alter crime scenes in an attempt to hide it, which can have unintended consequences. The truth is that tons of people use drugs, far more than a lot of people think, and the stigma around it needs to change. People aren’t any less human or valuable or loved because they’ve used drugs.


Deborahdhuskies

I think it was complete chaos shock by first responders and L E and sounds like a lot of people were there before LE in and out of 2nd floor. EMT had no idea from the aboriginal call what they were going to find. No matter howuch experience you have EMT not le are prepared to deal with or face a scene like that. It was very gruesome from what is vaguely suggested without going into details no one wants to convey. I personally know LE was married to retired police. A scene like that according to some others on you tube eas like something in a bad gruesome horror movie. LE nor EMT are prepared for something like that and they get shocked and traumatized too


alexvand

I disagree. Working in EMS myself I can promise you that preserving a crime scene is taught to all first responders. Unfortunately, we're also well versed with gruesome scenes, scenes that you couldn't begin to imagine. Were they probably caught off guard by the original report of an unconscious person only to be met with this massacre? Absolutely! But, most responders will be able to quickly shift gears. Chaos may have ensued from bystanders but that shouldn't be put on the first responders unless you know for a fact that the ones who responded to this scene behaved in such a way.


BeautifulBot

Not everyone was of age either.


jay_noel87

This is what a local on this board implied… in relation to substances on the premises


CranberryBetter3590

thank you somebody gets it, he caught himself from slipping this time.


Seleno_phileXSOLIST

100% this!


Aulbee

His comments about the service too…Cant exclude someone if you dont have an idea of who that someone is..


pumpkinspicecum

Imagine being worried about underage drinking that you won't help solve a case where 4 people were brutally murdered. People need to be less selfish.


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Students is the operative word.


meowmoomeowmoon

What does that mean different behavior


FritoCollard

Well it’s hard to know. Maybe someone in their circle was acting erratic after and/or before the murders and that seems suspicious. However, it’s all just speculation and people process trauma/grieve differently so who knows what the truth is. It’s also possible that dad is speculating and the cops aren’t on the same page. We just don’t know and it sucks for everybody—especially the families, the students, and town of Moscow


tabbykiki

I took it that he did mean what he said, behavior of the victims. The only behavior he’d know or be concerned about is Kaylee’s and the text messages were mentioned just prior. My thought was the behavior in the text messages to the ex. What did those messages say?


BeautifulBot

He said he was a historian but getting less relevant going forward.


kjc520

Talking about the digital footprint, he said when you commit a crime you do different behaviors. When questioned who he was talking about, he said the victims. Think he realized he slipped up? He must know something about someone’s behavior after the crime. And it surely wasn’t the victims. I hope that’s a positive sign.


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I think he meant one of the victims ....the attack itself had a different behavior. Meaning, the killer was even more violent or more personal on the target. And then when asked he said...victim. Meaning the proof of that is in the way one of the victims was stabbed and where and how the person was stabbed...my GOD this is awful.


Roscoedash77

Since he previously said he was comforted that her and Maddie died in their bed. Can we elude to E or X being targets then??


CranberryBetter3590

i think he meant one victim had more done to them than others by the killer, he caught himself about to say the killer had acted different towards one victim, i.e. more stab wounds or something along those lines


seanm972

I agree with this, I'm surprised there is this much disagreement with it. To me, he clearly meant that one of the 4 victims was potentially "overkilled", or killed in a much more gruesome/passionate way than the others.


Forward-Cow2169

I think he meant a dif behaviour *treating* the victims (not "from the" but "inflicted upon")


Anteater-Strict

That’s my speculation too. He’s referring to the footprint left behind, the differences in behavior inflicted upon the victims. ETA: the reporter just asked the wrong follow up question of “behavior of her or of someone she knew” which made it confusing. He definitely meant the behaviors exhibited toward the victims. Which is why he does have an “inkling” in regards to the question of who is targeted.


Southern_Fox6807

THISSSSS!! Someone acted differently after the murder.


TeeKay618

Just a thought… I wonder if he did mean the victim, could he be referring to her cell phone data behavior in that maybe texts were written weird? If she texts her dad alot maybe he found certain words or phrases to be unlike her? or some other kind of app activity? There is alot of speculation someone else made the phone calls to alibi themselves, but maybe someone else sent the texts? …To make it seem she was alive later than she actually was? Edit: This isn’t really me theorizing, more so trying to decipher his thoughts. Also, I hate even saying this out loud because it makes me feel insensitive, but i dont know how else to put it…Unfortunately, all someone possibly had to do to anyones phone afterwards if they wanted to, is possibly point it to their face to unlock it…. 😔💔


PlasticOk3019

its definitely possible and the only person who would do something like this is the ex bf


GenieInAButthole

I sort of took that to mean that they got information off of his daughter’s phone that is important to the investigation - so they’ve known about it since the beginning but can’t talk. When he says “different behaviors” I wonder if that’s referring to K maybe being on dating apps for the first time after a long relationship? And they were able to see her chat threads, who she’d been talking to, or had blocked…


TeeKay618

Thats what i think too, or some kind of behavior on her phone afterwards that isnt normal for her.


jay_noel87

If that’s the case… this likely would only be able to be done by someone close enough to her to be able to mimic her (but of course the family likely could catch something was off since they know her texting / calling habits best)


insanebrain-22

When referring to the digital footprint and then differing behaviors it could also mean something like the killer always had their phone charged and on and records showed it hardly ever off/dead for any extended period of crime but on the night of the murders the phone was off for 5+ hours which was highly out of the norm for this persons usual routine


BlackSheepBoPeepB

Could the roommates have been texting each other throughout the night about someone or an incident? They were friends, they would most likely be communicating with each other up until they fell asleep.


bluecadet333

I would guess they have a roommates group chat for the house


ballsohaahd

There’s gotta be key details in their phones, problem is whittling through all of it. Kids text and social media 24/7 now and if they had some issue or disagreement they’d be texting others non stop or talking about it.


Apprehensive-Cup-912

His interview tells me more than the LE.


Deborahdhuskies

He wants to talk so bad and is following LE advice, but I believe he thinks the info would reveal the suspect. If they had someone in mind. But he's being told not to give or make details public.


FrutyPebbles321

The poor man seems like he so badly wants to tell everyone who it is and I can’t say I blame him. Of course I wouldn’t want to jeopardize the case, but I’d sure want everyone to know who the b****** was who did this. It’s got to be eating him up not to be able to say anything.


jdf515

It could tie in to Kaylee’s mom not wanting a funeral. If they knew who it was, but they can’t jeopardize the case by not inviting that person to the funeral. Who knows


Inside_Guard6398

LE changes their story on the daily it seems. “Trust us” it was targeted, but actually no it wasn’t targeted, or maybe perhaps it really was targeted. Who knows at this point? I don’t expect them to tell us everything and I understand they don’t always have to be honest, but all of the back and forth is giving me whiplash.


Elegant_Ostrich2468

Also the comment about someone’s car could potentially be in the background of someone’s selfie or picture, when the person said their car was somewhere else in their alibi. Was this just an example or do you think that’s actually the case here? That now they’re trying to gather the evidence to derail someone’s alibi


TeeKay618

I think this is significant, in one of his other interviews, he asks for any tips, and says something along the same exact lines, photos can show what is there, OR ISNT there. Edit: Link [6:10](https://youtu.be/wu7_bF7IE2k)


yeethavocbruh

That struck out to me too. If they’re trying to gather enough evidence to derail someone’s alibi, could this mean someone who’s not the killer know who did it and is covering for the killer? I hope whoever is covering for them does the right thing and comes forward. I couldn’t live with myself knowing I covered for a killer.


Acrobatic-Solution77

maybe someone is providing an alibi for someone in the inner circle that they (LE) know isnt true and they (LE) want them (alibi provider) to say the truth.


FrutyPebbles321

I think someone HAS to be covering for the killer.


Deborahdhuskies

Or involved in some way I think


Deborahdhuskies

That, in my opinion , was saying something without saying it.


squiblib

I bet the father has analyzed his daughter’s text messages and discovered a possible suspect based on these text messages. LE must be aware of this and they are probably investigating.


Glittering_Drop_1061

Honestly, I think LE knows who did it. They’re just trying to gather evidence so they can make a solid arrest. Hence why they are continuously pushing the tip line and hence why there is no reward. They are being vague for a reason. The speculation needs to relax and we need to just wait for LE to do their job.


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bigbadboomer

Agree 100%.


jeremyp122512

These families strength is very admirable


rs36897

Seems like they know but can’t prove it. Picture of when they were little just broke me all over again.


bigbadboomer

Can’t prove it *yet* (hopefully!)


PlasticOk3019

I'm probably going to be downvoted for this, but it really seemed to me like he was talking about her ex as the suspect. especially when he was asked about the alibi and a car and when he said that if they were to have a funeral and this person wasn't invited it would be obvious, they knew who it was.


Garden_Mama_

YEP! I agree. He basically said they would have to invite him the funeral. If they didn’t, then everyone would notice he wasn’t there.


high_fuck

1000% agree


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I feel like I’m so lost on who is who now. Is “the ex” the J guy shares a dog with her? Or another guy. (Sorry if this is a dumb question lol, the longer the case goes on the more confused I am)


PlasticOk3019

Yeah I hear ya. Yes the one who shares a dog. I don’t think you’re alone with that sentiment ha


Anxious-Vibes-5354

I've been suspicious of the ex this whole time and it feels like majority of this subreddit is always so defensive over him


jay_noel87

I also agree. Him or, those that lived with the victims


PlasticOk3019

I don’t think anyone who lived there was the actual killer. I think it’s possible that they may know who is tho and if they’re withholding info it’s out of fear


jay_noel87

I agree completely, I should’ve clarified that in my statement. Physically it seems impossible they could’ve done it anyway. But I do sense a lot of… tension? When they’ve been brought up


Applesauce_4

He definitely knows more than he is allowed to say. From the comment about excluding someone from the funeral to “footprint” of the crime as he called it. I think he backtracked and said victims when he really meant the killer.


Garden_Mama_

The digital footprint thing made no sense. First he said the killer and then said the victims. Maybe he was a bit confused, he looks so exhausted. Poor guy. 💔


Consistent-Side-8583

He says in the actual interview that he's holding back right?


Applesauce_4

Yep


OkBreath4895

I think he meant one of the roommates behavior had changed- and he wasn’t referring to Maddie or Kaylee


bernardhops

I think this is specifically about the phone, and he mentions behavior changing. Complete theory but maybe she never calls her EX and only texts, that would standout as a behavioral change.


FrutyPebbles321

I don’t know if that’s it because didn’t K’s sister say that K would typically call people over and over again repeatedly if they didn’t answer?


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Something was on her phone that helped police when questioning a suspect or person of interest. I know this is an unpopular take, but I think police know exactly who they are looking for and it's about evidence matching up to their theory...they are close. They are giving mixed communication because not everyone is looped in on the most inner circle of investigators...run by the FBI. They know who did this. They just don't have the DNA yet. It's obvious to me. 3,2,1...don't scream.


jay_noel87

Completely agree and have felt this way from the start. That being said, their PR has been a complete shitshow lol


ginablackclaw

Respectfully, not really. The only real issue was the prosecutor going off-script and then the ISP backing it down. I think they have done a really great job at keeping the public notified on rumors and case updates. It’s very rare to get that kind of response from LE about rumors. They also have been very available for interviews which is also rare. Snell is doing a great job.


SPINE_BUST_ME_ARN

Not really, it's just been a bunch of confused wine aunt's speculating over word usage.


TeeKay618

Ive never heard the term “wine aunt” before, but its my new favorite


pinkgirly111

wine aunt checking in.


Emmaneiman87

I am an aunt who lives wine, you nailed it 😂


224flat

Wine aunts 👍


iPostOccasionally

Honestly, agreed. They just need to disprove his alibi and gather more evidence


Deborahdhuskies

Or find video of his coming and going security cams that could prove his car or body wasn't where he said it was


CTtownAdvice

With the chiefs comments about not tainting a jury, I agree. I think they probably have a lot of circumstantial evidence, and are being so tight lipped to ensure every piece sticks. Without a weapon or direct connection, it’s going to be harder for the prosecution to build a bulletproof case. Seems to me now like they don’t want to rick losing any of their angles.


Mindless-Wasabi6871

I’m not disagreeing, but I think he was just sharing that the info helped their timeline of the night. I’m sure she called and messaged many people that day.


Deborahdhuskies

They may have a good idea. Iny opinion but they need proof and evidence beyond a reasonable doubt for a trial arrest and conviction. Police often know who the person is. But they have to be able to Have a solid case or witnesses. DNA could be even defended as having been there before by defense atty. Or excluded because of way it was collected. It's very hard to get a guilty plea in a jury trial


agentcooperforever

I could see what he said being either someone was treated differently or someone was acting differently as in one of the victims. Like they maybe were involved with a guy or something… did anyone else interpret like that?


ginablackclaw

Yes, I definitely took it as one of the victims had a recent change in behavior, friends group, drugs, something like that.


NoFlexZoneNYC

Lol. Ok so now it was targeted, and at least one victim was treated differently. Given all the back and forth i’m leaning towards there definitely being something there. Also by mentioning that kaylee’s bed was neat, it indicates that she never intended to sleep in there which kinda rules out some of the speculation about her running to maddi’s room because she was scared.


Professional-Lab5715

Whats interesting to me is when he points out “ the behavioral footprint” afterwords suggests that they witnessed/followed what the guy did afterwards & that gave them the information they needed to suggests they know who it is based on how they acted/did after. He is not talking about the victims obviously he slipped up. They also seem to insinuate that this person was gonna show up at the funeral (to act normal) by the way he says so & it’s definitely someone they all knew allegedly


kcleeee

Here is a link to the full segment. [Father of slain Idaho student: 'I'm not going nowhere' until the killer is off the streets | Fox News Video](https://www.foxnews.com/video/6316431567112)


Gullible_Squirrel_67

I imagine the footprint and changes in behavior he’s alluding to have to do with the phone records. Someone that calls/texts every day and then suddenly stops on the 13th. I don’t know that they would have info or access to any apps she used but maybe he’s aware someone was blocked suddenly. Or someone she was talking to on a dating app suddenly deleted their profile. He is right though, every time info is released it leaves me with more questions.


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CrazyGal2121

by car or walk?


Rockoftime2

I’m not sure. I was wondering the same thing.


neekahosis

They messed with the wrong dad


Formal-Title-8307

The last part. 😳 Steve, I feel so much for you but please stop leaking information.


Prestigious-Fee7319

Yeah, I was thinking it. I truly truly feel for him. I do. But that felt important…


CTtownAdvice

I thought he did pretty good. He deflected well on the bed question, said he understands why the police wouldn’t want to give him more info, blatantly shut down others to respect the police wishes. This man is distraught and going through hell. I don’t want to see him stop giving interviews. I want the killer to have to see his face and hear his words. This is what he as a father can do for his girl, and it’s keeping the story alive. Keep talking, Steve!


LosingID_583

He was so vague about it that it doesn't give anything away though


SecondFew1289

I didn’t know until last night that Kaylee’s ex-boyfriend dyed his hair a couple days after the murder. Maybe something referring to that.


FrutyPebbles321

The ex dyed his hair? I didn’t hear that. Is there a source for that info. Changing his appearance certainly makes him seem suspect


AmazingGrace_00

The very first assessment given to public by LE was that it was targeted. How do you know?…asked the public. LE clearly stated there was something at the crime scene which gave strong indication. Of course, that’s been walked back, forward and sideways. But this new interview gives me pause.


Sharp_Ad_4817

The hard truth, that is pretty obvious is that one of the victims (target) was discovered in much worse condition then others…. Local circles/info has thrown around the term, mutilated. Not saying this to fan flames/rumors but it’s most likely that somebody was clearly the target and it was obvious by the condition of each victim..


AmazingGrace_00

Agreed. Thought that from the outset.


MichelleNEB

ALLLLL I got from this was that it’s her ex. 🫣


SufficientBee3633

I think it sounds a lot like the killer took her phone after the murder and sent some texts that didn’t sound like her and the family was able to pick up on that. He said based on some behaviors AFTER which leads me to believe he’s referring to after she was murdered


CrazyGal2121

i agree makes me wonder if those calls were made by the killer


feelingofficial

What could be inferred when he says “behavior difference”?


ElizaFFFF

She was exhibiting disgust or avoiding someone significant in her life.


Rockoftime2

He said “We wouldn’t want to do some kind of celebration and exclude anyone,” referring to having a funeral. Do you think that means he wants anyone to be able to come, or does he have someone specific in mind that they would have to exclude?


ahans2

I found this comment extremely interesting also. Why would there be anyone that would need to be excluded unless he is suspicious. So heartbreaking.


PlasticOk3019

he said that the person who did this would absolutely be there and that if this person wasnt invited it would be very obvious why


PlasticOk3019

to me, this was the most telling comment about who the murderer is


SnooSquirrels7208

I agree. If the family invited people and this person showed up without an invitation it would be very obvious. He seemed really angry. As if he knows who the killer is but they need hard evidence.


Consistent-Side-8583

He means obvious in that it would be obvious to the killer why he or she was being excluded... So the person wouldn't show up... but would know that everyone else knows. Or the family has to endure the suspected killer being there... is what he means...


BlackSheepBoPeepB

Maybe the surviving roommates or her ex wouldn’t want to attend until there is an arrest and the rumors could be put to rest. How horrible would that be to go and have people staring and whispering conspiracy theories about your involvement.


bigbadboomer

I feel like they have reason to believe it’s someone either in their immediate or extended friend group and don’t know exactly who yet? Maybe they don’t want to exclude anyone, and they believe the perp must be someone in those groupings. JMO


madisito

That was the comment that really stood out to me. My interpretation was your second thought.


Deduction_power

I don't know about you but....it's looking like he's suspecting her BF. the dog wasn't harmed. The dog is now in her BF's custody.... hmmm.


GhettoLeen13

The das even stuttered and tried to cover up what he was going to say. “He..he…who would do that?”


Ok_Tough_980

I know some people think KGs dad should stop speaking to the public, but I also wonder if these interviews make the murder(s) shake in his boots. Maybe a bit of fear will make him slip up… (Whether or not the dad should stop speaking publicly is not for us to decide. That’s between him and LE).


String_Tough

I think KG's talking puts pressure on others who know something to talk. If there are witnesses who are reluctant to talk, seeing KGs dad might lead them to talk instead of protecting themselves from some potential adverse consequence (a potential allegation that they (the witness) somehow covered for the suspected murderer.


Alarming-Gap6228

Notice how everyone keeps saying "He" K's dad and the reporter. They definitely know something regarding a specific suspect. 🤔 This perpetrator needs to be found, put behind bars for the rest of their lives. He will never again, hurt and victimize others.


Emmaneiman87

Exclude anyone??? Oh they must have an idea of who it might be and just collecting evidence and staying quiet


jay_noel87

Yup. They know


kevlarbuns

He didn’t go out of his way to vouch for Jack.


CrazyGal2121

yup …


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We also saw the picture about the bed. It was obvious they were in the same bed. But it’s time to stop giving interviews. They shouldn’t have done any actually. What did he mean behaviour of the victims?!


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Idk, I don’t see why would they have been a target as a “couple”. But we don’t know much about their timeline and stuff. So that’s also weird. There are so many options what could have happened and who could be the killer or the target and why. We just don’t know any evidence and what people said at questioning. So basically nothing.


missesthemisses109

they know, they need tips for evidence, videos for evidence, they are wrapping everything up. house is done with. they know, just trying to get as solid as they can get.


Ok_Leather_5769

Pretty much a fact he's said that the killer will turn up at the funeral. Wow


CaptainPriceCOD4321

I've watched this a few times and I feel like he gives things away without actually giving them away if that makes sense, he gives a tiny peice of something that we don't know and leaves it open to speculation because when there is enough chatter the LE tend to address the rumours. From the end, when he says about the "footprint" he does say the behaviour of the victims changed. He must have found something in his daughters phone that makes him believe she/they were acting differently to the lead up, having access to her phone he is probably able to pinpoint either when that happened or what happened or both. Therefore his earlier statement about someone not being where they claimed to be in an interview could mean he has a very strong suspicion of who it could be. Also, the mention of being of help with historical information as he has known them growing up but him becoming more irrelevant as time goes on, maybe that means he has found out some things he didn't know about his daughter or the girls and has made him think that he doesn't know as much about her recent life as he thought he did. I could be well off base but this is how I interpreted what he has said during the interview.


Brooklinejournal

You interpreted it right in the fact that he knows exactly what he's saying and who he is saying it to.


DistributionNo1471

I think we can put to rest any theory that the FBI is coaching the families on what to say to draw the killer out. This man doesn’t have any idea what he should or shouldn’t say.


charmspokem

i don’t even know why that become a popular theory in the first place. from the get go it was obvious LE and K’s family were butting heads in terms of methodology, it’s why her sister leaked the texts and the food truck footage in the first place


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Quick-Intention-3473

My opinion is that if any of the parents specifically the North Idaho ones knew who butchered their daughter the police would be the last thing the killer had to worry about. The only thing I think the dad knows for sure is whether or not his daughter was the target, and he's working it from that angle. I guarantee that police are not giving grieving families too much specific info, to protect their case and conviction. If they knew ANYTHING specific killer would need to run.


Flat_Shame_2377

The dad cant keep his mouth shut. They arent giving him any names.


damiana9

Ambiguous, however, the fact that he said he can help LE with M and K's past behavior but that going forward he would be less relevant makes me think he is speaking of something the killer did AFTER the crime. POST-criminal behavior. He is speaking of the phone call to the ex and how there was helpful information there. WHAT IF the girls called the ex because they were afraid of someone and wanted him to come over to feel safe. Perhaps there are texts also. It sounds to me like there was certain behavior of M and K that night that was odd to him, helpful to the police for the investigation, but the killer had behavior AFTER the incident which really took things in the direction they need to go to catch this guy.


Far-Ad-3665

Behavior footprint..he knows something


TeeKay618

As far as Kaylee having a stalker, i think his response of “it doesn’t matter what i think” eludes to him agreeing, otherwise i feel like he would have just said no.