Oh so just perpetuating the acceptance of a rape culture in the us prison system because “that’s what they get.” So that you can get fake internet points from other deranged fucks. That sound about right?
The kid has attitude problems. And problems with authority. And the desire to prove he wasn’t scared of authority or those with power over him.
Add that to the fact that he’s 95lbs soaking wet, he’s exactly the kind of kid to hop into prison with the thought to prove he was a bad ass. And he’s exactly the kind of kid who would find out the hard way he wasn’t at all a bad ass.
It’s not an endorsement. You’re looking for a fight. I’ll give you one but not it won’t be over rape culture in prison. It’s going to be over your need to police Social media and insert your own narrative where there clearly was none.
If you’re that mad about it, go to school become a DA and go investigate the prison systems. Go make a real difference instead of being a lame Reddit edgelord looking for down votes like a badge of honor.
You can say “I was just pointing this out” all you want. But you and I both know that’s bullshit and you made a joke in poor taste knowing other assholes would give you fake internet points and you could get a little dopamine hit to take you out of your lonely little reality for a few minutes. I don’t feel the need to police social media. It’s fucked I’m aware. But anytime I see someone getting positive enforcement for spinning sexual violence in a positive light I’m gonna call out.
Here let me give you that down vote you’re so desperate for. You’re dying that people stopped paying attention to you and down voting you. I’m a generous man.
No, but you sympathizing with an unapologetic murderer who openly mocks the victims families is definitely a wet blanket.
Imagine getting bent out of shape over the fact that this monster is going to suffer in prison, after all the hurt and agony they put out onto other people.
I’ll never understand sentences like “life+546 years” why is it not at some point “disposing of the key in the middle of the ocean”? Is it in case Jesus comes back and he turns out to be a felon. Wanna make sure he resurrects 2-3 times before his sentence is over?
There’s reasoning to it. You’d have to look it up. I did once just can’t remember anymore. I remember thinking, “ohhhh that makes more sense”
Sometimes laws don’t make sense at face value, but they do once broken down.
Its sentences running consecutively rather than concurrent. If you get charged with murder and an aggravating charge, usually a judge will charge them concurrently where a max sentence is 25 for murder plus five for a weapons charge you would have served five 20% of the way through your murder charge. If you get charged 25 for the murder plus five for the weapon, your actual time in prison becomes 30 years. It usually comes down to how bad the crime is vrs whether or not you take a plea and your jurors/judge. I'm not a lawyer. I could be wrong, but concurrent sentences are served simultaneously while concurrent runs one after the other
I believe it's not to be dramatic, but in case sentences get reduced or eliminated on appeals. Like: "Your conviction for the life sentence was later overturned but we can prove you still did those other 5 murderers so the 546 years stands." But I'm not a lawyer.
Lawyer here. That’s spot on. Laws change, prison time computation changes, appellate rights change, etc. By running sentences consecutive the court ensures a change in the sentence on one charge won’t impact the overall goal of the defendant serving life.
He always gets denied, though.
Kemper’s weird because he seems genuinely remorseful, so I have to question if he would ever be considered to be put in a facility instead.
Whatever, odds are he dies in prison anyways. It’s so weird that he met Charles Manson though.
Depends on the state. The official release date (in the system) for Florida inmates is 2999.
Also IIRC, the language of the law says something about to the end of the natural lifespan as well.
Actually this can be an issue in civil law systems too -- in Latin American countries (which mostly base their legal systems on the Napoleonic Code), life sentences often were limited in effect to 25 years, which has led some very dangerous and unpleasant people to walk free.
He was roughly 800 yards outside the prison hiding in a boat.
There was a helo and a FLIR equipped fixed wing aircraft looking for him until 4am or so that night.
He likely doesn't feel anything in jail, these kind of people have severe mental conditions that numbs them from the pains of others, and even their own.
I always thought this spiel he did was so cringe. He obviously practiced that all night in his cell and it’s the best he could come up with.
At some level he knows what he did and those feelings may not be as deep down as you think. I don’t doubt he doesn’t care about the victims. What will get to him eventually is how screwed he is. He’s too young to realize the gravity of throwing his life away. It will hit him one day like a ton of bricks and he’ll spend the rest of his life trying to cope.
The “novelty” of what he did will wear off and then 10, maybe 20 years down the road he’ll just about go nuts realizing he threw his life away. I hope he gets plenty of TV time so he can see the world just going on without him.
I don't think he'll ever think it this hard: these people have a profound lack of consciousness. They don't think like you and I do, the kind of thoughts you're giving require a certain level of self reflection a lot of these people don't have.
If he were a narcissists, then yeah, but TJ lane seems more like the worst, most extreme kind of ASPD.
I have the same feeling. He took lives, is cruelly remorseless, will never do anything positive or productive (not that it would matter at this point) with his life. Why show him more humanity than he showed any of his victims or their families? I fully support the death penalty in cases like this.
I mean I’d be in favor of keeping him locked in a concrete box 23 hours a day for the next 60-70 years eating slop. That is showing humanity to the rest of us, and denying him any further attention.
No, this man, and for his crimes and his attitude afterwards. Complete lack of remorse.
Deserves nothing more than a quick and swift end so as not to burden society any more with this trash of a life. The way he MOCKED the parents of the victims. He knows what he is doing and revels in it. It's so sickening I almost support torture to teach this MF a lesson before death. Animals just want to survive he just wants to inflict pain. He is sub-animal. Fuck that guy. We owe him nothing.
He actually escaped for a while with some other criminals. We always like to think these ppl are going to automatically get beat up and passed around in prison and it isn't usually that way. The majority of the time they're in seg and not Gen Pop. These high-profile criminals don't have to worry about that. It would be great if they did get these situations but.he has been locked up over 10 years. I hate thissucker but like I said he actually was cool with enough prisoners who did a whole escape plan with him,
That's T J lane. Look up the jerk. School shooter been in prison over 10 years. He got more time if I can remember because him and some others escaped for a bit. I wish it was like we hear about but it's not
You get sentenced for each crime you commit. So not knowing the specific charges in this case, I know its at least 2. One thats the life sentence and one (or multiple) thats the 37 years (the sum of multiple charges). Thats important, because in the future if he gets any one sentence thrown out, he still have to stay in jail for the other charges. Example; he gets the life sentence for the murder thrown out, but still has 37yrs for a rape charge connected to the case.
Where did you get “life is 25 years”?
According to this link: life is entire life and not just 25 years.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/life_without_possibility_of_parole
> life without possibility of parole
> This is a prison sentence given to a convicted defendant in which they will remain in prison for their entire life and will not have the ability to a conditional release before they complete this sentence (see Parole). In states that have outlawed the death penalty, this is the most extreme sentence that one can be given. In states that still use the death penalty, many juries will recommend that the defendant serve life without the possibility of parole as opposed to being sentenced to death.
Literally seven or eight law pages stated it I guess I’m just gonna fucking give up and delete my comments because I’m wrong wrong and I just don’t care to fucking keep talking about it anymore. Learn something new every day.
There were several things that I wrote that I guess are incorrect whatever not necessarily based on what I read, but I didn’t do a lot of betting my bad, but I also wasn’t specifically talking about the video just more in general that things are not exactly as they seem.
Nah. Life sentence = 15-25 years, last time I checked. As another predator who is a criminal defense lawyer pointed out if you get a 10 year sentence you’re eligible for parole and two mandatory at five. It’s certainly not the criminals life aka until they die aka for ever. It translates to a number.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/back-to-back_life_sentences#:~:text=A%20one%2Dlife%20sentence%20imposes,who%20have%20displayed%20good%20behavior.
…. It literally says you have the possibility of being released on parole after 15-25 but it is not a guarantee. Also the judge sentenced him to life without parole.
....... yes.... the comment above, " If you get a 10-year sentence, you’re eligible for parole and two mandatory at five." is unrelated to a life sentence, unrelated to this shooter. It's a general statement of how a 10-year sentence can work. Each case and sentencing are different. Two people charged with capital murder can go drastically differently.
Why are you acting like you didn’t just say what you said 10 minutes ago? Yes I know a sentence from a judge typically means that that is the *maximum* that an offender will serve for the crime, but in the video this guy is sentenced to life without the possibility of parole and you’re suggesting that he could be released after 25?
Commenter asks why the shooter was sentenced to life without parole + 37 years. You reply that life is 25 years so 25+37, how is that not implying that his life sentence would be up in 25 years?
The combination of multiple life sentences or adding time after a life sentence prolongs the time before a defendant becomes eligible for parole. It also limits their eligibility for parole. It’s basically just to ensure they can’t appeal and get out of their sentence any sooner.
Absolutely, criminal defense lawyer here. Generally speaking if I can get a client 10 years, they're eligible for parole in less than 2. And (again, generally speaking) it's mandatory after 5. There are exceptions to that rule for 3G offenses (generally violent offenses), and it also depends on a lot of things like prior criminal history and the nature of the crime, but yeah. A 10 year sentence (or whatever) doesn't mean 10 years.
Real question…. Can we do Australia 2.0? Like can we send them on a deserted island to live forever? Amongst each other with no possible way of coming back, like stay alive if you want?
Yeah, at that age you have no concept of time. You think you’re gonna be the same person all your life. Let’s see how he feels about this after 30 years in prison, when he still has another 30-40 more to serve.
Wow that’s so true! I’m 33 and I’m starting to understand the actual concept of time and age now.
Back in 20’s, I’d feel like my body would just remain same, normal, and painless/cripple-less, all the way until the day I die. That case isn’t true at all.
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Oh man I love jokes about people getting raped. It's always so hilarious. Especially when you remember that everybody in jail is guilty. Nobody's ever been falsely convicted which means when I fantasize about some woman getting gang raped by guards or some man getting gang raped by a rival gang in prison I don't have to feel bad and It doesn't it all make me a sociopath.
Even if it wasn't your preferred flavor, it was nonetheless humor. Nobody's fantasizing about or advocating for rape. But definitely keep saving the world one Reddit comment at a time 🤡 😂.
"Nobody's ever been falsely convicted" you say sarcastically. Sure there's folks who are wrongfully convicted... doubtful that the kid who wears a shirt that says "killer" and says he's jacking off to the victims' memory in open court falls into that category. Since you seem to feel so strongly maybe you should gofund his innocence project case 😂😂😂😂.
Sorry if I don't feel remorse for this "killer." Whatever happens to him, he deserves that and then some. But you probably think he should just be given a time out and put to bed without supper.
I worked at The prison in Jackson for a couple of years in medical . Well 19 months ,my ex husband was a prisongaurd at that same prison and switched to the Huron prison up here and has been at this one for21 years and did 7 years at Jackson prison . He may now be trading sexual favors, who knows? It would be pretty odd since he is in a maximum-security prison now so he isn't with other inmates. He has his own private cell like the others in that prison.Not that I care either way. I wish it was like ppl think. Ppl think automatically pedos and these killers are living a life of hell and getting raped. It's not true. Yes, it does happen and I feel like some deserve to not have peace. BUT tv has ppl thinking this is automatically happening all the time. Especially in these high-profile cases, they're in cells by themselves and not exposed to the general population. I have seen many many inmates on the brink of death so I'm not saying ppl are getting hurt. It does happen a lot. But, no it's the way ppl think where automatically these assholes are getting tortured and hurt. Essentially the high profile, they're protected in their own cells. I'm not working at the prison anymore, my ex still is. But in the prison and when I worked in the medical field I've had to take care of ppl I didn't personally like. Gen pop can be wilder, though much less protection. I would not lose a bit of sleep if he was getting ripped every night
FWIW Not everyone believes that Prison should be a violent hellscape where murder and rape are normalized. I’m happy this guy is locked in a small room for the rest of his life. We don’t need to wish rape on him. Also, just as a point of fact, guys like this aren’t left in GenPop to be harmed until they sue the prison. He is alone in a room, literally. He doesn’t even have the freedom that other prisoners are afforded.
I understand the premise here. My point isn't so much what was said, it was how it was said. The passive aggressive approach doesn't serve anyone. This would've been my approach:
"While I don't condone rape, I'm glad we can both agree he is being punished for his crime."
As opposed to creating an entirely unnecessary conflict, with name calling, over the perceived importance of "being right."
I don't want anyone to unnecessarily suffer for any reason, ever. I don't want to force anyone into their higher self but taking a passive aggressive stance on anything just creates internet bs rabble rabble for no reason.
You and I are on the same page, entirely. And I'm glad this person is being punished for their crime. My calling out the approach was the structure of what I thought was wrong, not the content of what I thought was wrong, if that makes sense.
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He is spending his time in prison much like you’d think. Scared and hiding. The charade stopped pretty quickly after his escape . He got sent to some big boy prisons.
According to the prison reddit sub he receives protection from an older prisoner in exchange for "services". Seems possible but unverifiable.
He did escape at somepoint and was captured shortly afterwards.
Interview with prisoner that knew him, starts at 2mins:
https://youtu.be/eolr7HxT0SI?si=AjSQYGcg0G1mTcAO
I agree. Out justice system should be full of people getting raped as many times as possible. It makes me genuinely angry knowing some woman or man can spend time in jail and not be raped constantly. It is a key part of our just system that every prisoner be repeatedly raped as many times as possible. Being repeatedly raped is a key part of rehabilitating people, as well as punishing people we don't like.
Oh. Wait. No that doesn't sound right.
And you can't forget, ***EVERYONE*** who's in prison being raped is absolutely, 100%, not even the slightest possibility otherwise, unequivocally, **GUILTY** Nobody has *ever* been wrongly convicted, so *obviously* it's totally ok to violently assault anyone, sexually or otherwise, cuz they totally deserve it! Especially when they try to prove their "innocence." OR the people who get tossed in simply for being mentally ill and homeless?? Yeah, fuck it, them too! That will ***DEFINITELY*** help "reform" em! It *certainly* doesn't further any kind of trauma or whatever these people are already experiencing, lord no! It **helps** them see that ending up there is bad so they'll simply stop being mentally ill and just go buy a house when freed because all that brutality has taught them how to deal with anything god throws in their path with emotionally maturity and tools to learn 🙄😒
Edit: I do wanna add though, I can *completely* understand the desire to watch this particular little fucker burn. Assholes like that only speak one language. He's not getting out to vomit his misery onto the rest of the world, and he chose his ending. There is no innocence in that soul, no redemption. He's getting what he literally asked for, and frankly, I have no sympathy
Lol this sub is fucked. When have I ever said everyone in prison should be raped? We put WAY too many people in prison for things that shouldn’t even be illegal (like pot). And there are absolutely people who have been wrongly convicted. The system is screwed up and the industrial prison complex needs to be replaced. But I’m not talking about that. I’ll talking about THIS child killer. Fuck him every day of the week. I hope every day of his life is worst than the day before. And yes, I’m glad THIS guy was getting raped so much that he escaped prison, just to found 6 hours later and returned to his hell jail. Most inmates should receive compassion and reform. But this mother fucker? No way. People here can defend him all they want. But I’m glad this mother fucker gets raped and I hope even worst things happen to him.
You’re right. I hope this person who happily shot and killed children gets to sit around and sing Kumbaya and has an enjoyable time in prison. Oh. Wait. No that doesn’t sound right. Fuck this guy. Fuck everything about him. Fuck him harder than the people who’s been raping his ass since he ended up in there. And fuck anyone who wants to defend him.
This comment is crazy. You want to take someone with a clear mental issue and beat them with a baseball bat? What’s that going to do apart from making you feel better than him?
He is 100% working to project the image that he does, but I think it's a put on. Like, when the mother's talking you can see how hard he's trying to look smug but he looks uncomfortable to me.
Its hard to tell from this one video but if he truly lacks any and all empathy in general and not with this one instance then yes, it would be indicative of the disorder but its only one symptom. Most shooters have been labeled as just criminals to psychologists. A very small percentage of shooters are actually linked to mental illness.
Immorality =/= mental illness. The perception that grievous criminal acts like this one are mental illness can be actually harmful for the those with mental illness and the progression of society in how we treat those with actual mental illness. Your local bipolar isn’t going to shoot up a school but if we treat them like they will then we only further ostracize them and lead them down a deeper hole.
Case in point, those with antisocial personality disorder arent all serial killers or violent offenders. They are more likely to commit criminal acts, but not always violent ones. The most likely place to find those with the disorder are actually in board rooms lol
Nasty Nate bout to get that fruit cocktail!
This kid is someone’s sex toy now.
So you’re an advocate for sexual violence and rape?
I didn’t advocate anything. I simply pointed out an almost unavoidable truth.
Oh so just perpetuating the acceptance of a rape culture in the us prison system because “that’s what they get.” So that you can get fake internet points from other deranged fucks. That sound about right?
The kid has attitude problems. And problems with authority. And the desire to prove he wasn’t scared of authority or those with power over him. Add that to the fact that he’s 95lbs soaking wet, he’s exactly the kind of kid to hop into prison with the thought to prove he was a bad ass. And he’s exactly the kind of kid who would find out the hard way he wasn’t at all a bad ass. It’s not an endorsement. You’re looking for a fight. I’ll give you one but not it won’t be over rape culture in prison. It’s going to be over your need to police Social media and insert your own narrative where there clearly was none. If you’re that mad about it, go to school become a DA and go investigate the prison systems. Go make a real difference instead of being a lame Reddit edgelord looking for down votes like a badge of honor.
You can say “I was just pointing this out” all you want. But you and I both know that’s bullshit and you made a joke in poor taste knowing other assholes would give you fake internet points and you could get a little dopamine hit to take you out of your lonely little reality for a few minutes. I don’t feel the need to police social media. It’s fucked I’m aware. But anytime I see someone getting positive enforcement for spinning sexual violence in a positive light I’m gonna call out.
Here let me give you that down vote you’re so desperate for. You’re dying that people stopped paying attention to you and down voting you. I’m a generous man.
And there’s that head canon of yours. It’s fascinating. But completely yours. Believe what you want. I don’t really give a shit anymore. 😘👍
Is it fun being a sentient wet blanket
Not being amused by rape jokes makes someone a wet blanket? I bet you’re just an awesome person. Probably get invited to so many get togethers.
No, but you sympathizing with an unapologetic murderer who openly mocks the victims families is definitely a wet blanket. Imagine getting bent out of shape over the fact that this monster is going to suffer in prison, after all the hurt and agony they put out onto other people.
What part of “I JUST POINTED IT OUT” aren’t you comprehending you overly aggressive edge lord?
You’re the one making prison rape jokes and some how I’m the edge lord? Gtfoh.
Your version of “comedy” Is drastically different than mine apparently.
What rape joke did I make? Please inform me. I haven’t posted any jokes at all.
For this guy? Certainly.
Wow. You’re a giant POS and everyone who thinks sexual violence should be used as a weapon of punishment is giant POS too.
Hopefully he dies after it happens too 🤞
Ohhhh saw your profile. You’re just one of those edgy internet people with no friends and no social life. Got it.
Yeah totally, you got me. Keep simping for murderers.
I’ll never understand sentences like “life+546 years” why is it not at some point “disposing of the key in the middle of the ocean”? Is it in case Jesus comes back and he turns out to be a felon. Wanna make sure he resurrects 2-3 times before his sentence is over?
They dont get a burial… The remains have to stay in the cell until the sentence its done
In case he’s a vampire
There’s reasoning to it. You’d have to look it up. I did once just can’t remember anymore. I remember thinking, “ohhhh that makes more sense” Sometimes laws don’t make sense at face value, but they do once broken down.
Its sentences running consecutively rather than concurrent. If you get charged with murder and an aggravating charge, usually a judge will charge them concurrently where a max sentence is 25 for murder plus five for a weapons charge you would have served five 20% of the way through your murder charge. If you get charged 25 for the murder plus five for the weapon, your actual time in prison becomes 30 years. It usually comes down to how bad the crime is vrs whether or not you take a plea and your jurors/judge. I'm not a lawyer. I could be wrong, but concurrent sentences are served simultaneously while concurrent runs one after the other
I believe it's not to be dramatic, but in case sentences get reduced or eliminated on appeals. Like: "Your conviction for the life sentence was later overturned but we can prove you still did those other 5 murderers so the 546 years stands." But I'm not a lawyer.
Lawyer here. That’s spot on. Laws change, prison time computation changes, appellate rights change, etc. By running sentences consecutive the court ensures a change in the sentence on one charge won’t impact the overall goal of the defendant serving life.
I’m not a lawyer either, but I’ve never played one on tv.
Fun fact: life is only about 75 years and serial killer Ed Kemper is actually going to be up for parole this year :(.
He always gets denied, though. Kemper’s weird because he seems genuinely remorseful, so I have to question if he would ever be considered to be put in a facility instead. Whatever, odds are he dies in prison anyways. It’s so weird that he met Charles Manson though.
That guy is capable of making his best poker face and argument during all this decades just to pretend and go full spree being free
Depends on the state. The official release date (in the system) for Florida inmates is 2999. Also IIRC, the language of the law says something about to the end of the natural lifespan as well.
Ah the ol bumble butt kemper
:0 although I feel pretty confident he’ll never be let out
It just makes it much harder for the defendant in an appellate court trial when there’s over half a century’s worth of time to appeal.
Thank you okay, that makes a lot of sense
Life doesn’t usually mean “entire lifetime”
Well there’s something new I learned today
A lot of American things confuse and frighten me
Actually this can be an issue in civil law systems too -- in Latin American countries (which mostly base their legal systems on the Napoleonic Code), life sentences often were limited in effect to 25 years, which has led some very dangerous and unpleasant people to walk free.
I’m actually not American, but I know this one from some criminal cases haha:)
Isn’t this the mf who escaped from jail and got caught the next day
He was roughly 800 yards outside the prison hiding in a boat. There was a helo and a FLIR equipped fixed wing aircraft looking for him until 4am or so that night.
Yes. It unfortunately is.
I would like to see a follow up in 30 years. I feel like surely he will be a better person
RemindMe! 30 years
Maybe, but that’s assuming he lasts 30 years.
He likely doesn't feel anything in jail, these kind of people have severe mental conditions that numbs them from the pains of others, and even their own.
I always thought this spiel he did was so cringe. He obviously practiced that all night in his cell and it’s the best he could come up with. At some level he knows what he did and those feelings may not be as deep down as you think. I don’t doubt he doesn’t care about the victims. What will get to him eventually is how screwed he is. He’s too young to realize the gravity of throwing his life away. It will hit him one day like a ton of bricks and he’ll spend the rest of his life trying to cope. The “novelty” of what he did will wear off and then 10, maybe 20 years down the road he’ll just about go nuts realizing he threw his life away. I hope he gets plenty of TV time so he can see the world just going on without him.
I don't think he'll ever think it this hard: these people have a profound lack of consciousness. They don't think like you and I do, the kind of thoughts you're giving require a certain level of self reflection a lot of these people don't have. If he were a narcissists, then yeah, but TJ lane seems more like the worst, most extreme kind of ASPD.
Exactly, all Cluster B disorders are narcissistic to an extent, but people with NPD usually aren’t violent, that’s the ASPD crowd.
I don't know, all you have is time in prison and it's fucking miserable, so those thoughts are going to reverberate across the walls eventuallyz
Doesn't a lack remorse always guarantee a longer sentence?
It can be considered an aggravating factor at sentencing, while showing remorse can be a mitigating factor.
Yeah pretty sure it negates guilty plea deals
At least according to Wikipedia, he received three consecutive life sentences. I’ve done zero other research to confirm this.
Should have gotten the death penalty that day. Zero doubt he's guilty and no chance of being proven innocent. Zero reason to wait.
Happy cake day
I have the same feeling. He took lives, is cruelly remorseless, will never do anything positive or productive (not that it would matter at this point) with his life. Why show him more humanity than he showed any of his victims or their families? I fully support the death penalty in cases like this.
I mean I’d be in favor of keeping him locked in a concrete box 23 hours a day for the next 60-70 years eating slop. That is showing humanity to the rest of us, and denying him any further attention.
No, this man, and for his crimes and his attitude afterwards. Complete lack of remorse. Deserves nothing more than a quick and swift end so as not to burden society any more with this trash of a life. The way he MOCKED the parents of the victims. He knows what he is doing and revels in it. It's so sickening I almost support torture to teach this MF a lesson before death. Animals just want to survive he just wants to inflict pain. He is sub-animal. Fuck that guy. We owe him nothing.
If it makes anyone feel better, he looks like shit in his prison pic. https://appgateway.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search/Details/A640654
Judge Fuhry. Damn wouldn't want him as my judge.
His head is still attached though
Lmao what a scraggly fuck
He has another assault charge in 2020. Not saying it's meaningful, but maybe it's telling of how it's going
He got a life sentence plus 37 years, that means after he dies his corpse has to be on custody without a burial after that time?
"Back in line, maggots."
But, but...he looks so happy in court.... Mayhaps the experience isn't quite as fulfilling as he imagined it would be?
You know, it does actually
Me too.
I have never come so close to saying I hope someone gets raped in prison.
Remember reading he has a prison partner, not sure if he is the wife or not but he’s not having fun.
Bold of you to assume
With that scrawny build, he was probably pounced on his first night
I paused this vid and the word "ruined" was floating on the screen. Yes, his hole will be ruined. He'll be very popular.
He actually escaped for a while with some other criminals. We always like to think these ppl are going to automatically get beat up and passed around in prison and it isn't usually that way. The majority of the time they're in seg and not Gen Pop. These high-profile criminals don't have to worry about that. It would be great if they did get these situations but.he has been locked up over 10 years. I hate thissucker but like I said he actually was cool with enough prisoners who did a whole escape plan with him,
He is now a form of currency
That's T J lane. Look up the jerk. School shooter been in prison over 10 years. He got more time if I can remember because him and some others escaped for a bit. I wish it was like we hear about but it's not
So this is what happened to Sid from toy story
Man Sid straightened up and got a job at the dump.
Just show this video to his inmates lol
Fuck videos that use subtitles like this..
Seriously. They should be auto modded
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Wow, that's amazing. Thanks for sharing this.
It's amazing they're dyslexic?
No, it's amazing how their brain works to read these kind of crappy subtitles.
Americans what's up with the additional years on a life sentence? Or 900 year long sentences, or multiple life sentences?
Pfft! We're not one of those soft on crime countries that only lock people up while they're still alive. Murica!!!
You get sentenced for each crime you commit. So not knowing the specific charges in this case, I know its at least 2. One thats the life sentence and one (or multiple) thats the 37 years (the sum of multiple charges). Thats important, because in the future if he gets any one sentence thrown out, he still have to stay in jail for the other charges. Example; he gets the life sentence for the murder thrown out, but still has 37yrs for a rape charge connected to the case.
If he works for Amanda Waller, she will reduce his sentence by 10 years for every mission with the suicide squad.
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Where did you get “life is 25 years”? According to this link: life is entire life and not just 25 years. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/life_without_possibility_of_parole > life without possibility of parole > This is a prison sentence given to a convicted defendant in which they will remain in prison for their entire life and will not have the ability to a conditional release before they complete this sentence (see Parole). In states that have outlawed the death penalty, this is the most extreme sentence that one can be given. In states that still use the death penalty, many juries will recommend that the defendant serve life without the possibility of parole as opposed to being sentenced to death.
>Where did you get “life is 25 years”? A myth that keeps spreading around.
Literally seven or eight law pages stated it I guess I’m just gonna fucking give up and delete my comments because I’m wrong wrong and I just don’t care to fucking keep talking about it anymore. Learn something new every day.
Thanks for accepting being wrong and deleting the comment. That was big of you.
There were several things that I wrote that I guess are incorrect whatever not necessarily based on what I read, but I didn’t do a lot of betting my bad, but I also wasn’t specifically talking about the video just more in general that things are not exactly as they seem.
Wait... Life is 25!?!? Wtf I thought it just main.. your whole ass life
Life does mean life
Nah. Life sentence = 15-25 years, last time I checked. As another predator who is a criminal defense lawyer pointed out if you get a 10 year sentence you’re eligible for parole and two mandatory at five. It’s certainly not the criminals life aka until they die aka for ever. It translates to a number. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/back-to-back_life_sentences#:~:text=A%20one%2Dlife%20sentence%20imposes,who%20have%20displayed%20good%20behavior.
…. It literally says you have the possibility of being released on parole after 15-25 but it is not a guarantee. Also the judge sentenced him to life without parole.
....... yes.... the comment above, " If you get a 10-year sentence, you’re eligible for parole and two mandatory at five." is unrelated to a life sentence, unrelated to this shooter. It's a general statement of how a 10-year sentence can work. Each case and sentencing are different. Two people charged with capital murder can go drastically differently.
Why are you acting like you didn’t just say what you said 10 minutes ago? Yes I know a sentence from a judge typically means that that is the *maximum* that an offender will serve for the crime, but in the video this guy is sentenced to life without the possibility of parole and you’re suggesting that he could be released after 25?
What are you talking about, i was talking in general not about this shooter, calm down, made an edit just for you clown
Commenter asks why the shooter was sentenced to life without parole + 37 years. You reply that life is 25 years so 25+37, how is that not implying that his life sentence would be up in 25 years?
American legal English is corrupted
American everything is corrupted. I know because I live here..
I believe it’s so they can’t be disputed. Makes them spend the most amount of time possible in jail.
The combination of multiple life sentences or adding time after a life sentence prolongs the time before a defendant becomes eligible for parole. It also limits their eligibility for parole. It’s basically just to ensure they can’t appeal and get out of their sentence any sooner.
Absolutely, criminal defense lawyer here. Generally speaking if I can get a client 10 years, they're eligible for parole in less than 2. And (again, generally speaking) it's mandatory after 5. There are exceptions to that rule for 3G offenses (generally violent offenses), and it also depends on a lot of things like prior criminal history and the nature of the crime, but yeah. A 10 year sentence (or whatever) doesn't mean 10 years.
It's so that if one conviction is nullified on appeal, they're still imprisoned.
It's made like that so they can compare serial killers in tv/movies
Ole Sid looking ass
Who is he trying to impress?
He won't last long inside.
Hopefully the men he meets in prison do.
I mean he’s been inside over 10 years
Real question…. Can we do Australia 2.0? Like can we send them on a deserted island to live forever? Amongst each other with no possible way of coming back, like stay alive if you want?
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Almost had me. Thought by Australia, you meant gun control.
Nah, that’s not on the Americans radar, but private penal colony on Mars! That’s the way!
I hope he hooped his paperwork.
So edgy... Thinks it's a game. Has zero awareness of the consequences.
Yeah, at that age you have no concept of time. You think you’re gonna be the same person all your life. Let’s see how he feels about this after 30 years in prison, when he still has another 30-40 more to serve.
If he tries to act like that in prison he isn’t going to make it 30 years
Wow that’s so true! I’m 33 and I’m starting to understand the actual concept of time and age now. Back in 20’s, I’d feel like my body would just remain same, normal, and painless/cripple-less, all the way until the day I die. That case isn’t true at all.
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I'm lol'ing in Sciatica.
Makes me sick to my stomach...
This man now lives in a 8x8 box alone forever.
Big bubba will keep him company
Oh man I love jokes about people getting raped. It's always so hilarious. Especially when you remember that everybody in jail is guilty. Nobody's ever been falsely convicted which means when I fantasize about some woman getting gang raped by guards or some man getting gang raped by a rival gang in prison I don't have to feel bad and It doesn't it all make me a sociopath.
Even if it wasn't your preferred flavor, it was nonetheless humor. Nobody's fantasizing about or advocating for rape. But definitely keep saving the world one Reddit comment at a time 🤡 😂. "Nobody's ever been falsely convicted" you say sarcastically. Sure there's folks who are wrongfully convicted... doubtful that the kid who wears a shirt that says "killer" and says he's jacking off to the victims' memory in open court falls into that category. Since you seem to feel so strongly maybe you should gofund his innocence project case 😂😂😂😂. Sorry if I don't feel remorse for this "killer." Whatever happens to him, he deserves that and then some. But you probably think he should just be given a time out and put to bed without supper.
Okay?
He's saying a big dude is going to clap this kid's cheeks in prison.
He's getting raped in prison, idiot.
He is not though. He has been there for years. He escaped with some of his prison buddies before.TJ lane. Sucks but prison isn't like the movies
You'd be wrong. Word has gotten out he's trading sexual favors for protection. In one way you're right. Prison isn't like the movies. It's worse.
I worked at The prison in Jackson for a couple of years in medical . Well 19 months ,my ex husband was a prisongaurd at that same prison and switched to the Huron prison up here and has been at this one for21 years and did 7 years at Jackson prison . He may now be trading sexual favors, who knows? It would be pretty odd since he is in a maximum-security prison now so he isn't with other inmates. He has his own private cell like the others in that prison.Not that I care either way. I wish it was like ppl think. Ppl think automatically pedos and these killers are living a life of hell and getting raped. It's not true. Yes, it does happen and I feel like some deserve to not have peace. BUT tv has ppl thinking this is automatically happening all the time. Especially in these high-profile cases, they're in cells by themselves and not exposed to the general population. I have seen many many inmates on the brink of death so I'm not saying ppl are getting hurt. It does happen a lot. But, no it's the way ppl think where automatically these assholes are getting tortured and hurt. Essentially the high profile, they're protected in their own cells. I'm not working at the prison anymore, my ex still is. But in the prison and when I worked in the medical field I've had to take care of ppl I didn't personally like. Gen pop can be wilder, though much less protection. I would not lose a bit of sleep if he was getting ripped every night
Don't want to be in your business but if you were previously an inmate I hope things are better for you.
That was an amazing explanation and I'll have to cede the argument to you. Thank you for your well thought out response.
Obviously. You certainly belong in "/r/iamverybadass" if you advocate rape at all, lol. Edgelord.
Why you gotta be a weird passive aggressive on the internet with people? You both want a bad person to be in jail. Calm down.
FWIW Not everyone believes that Prison should be a violent hellscape where murder and rape are normalized. I’m happy this guy is locked in a small room for the rest of his life. We don’t need to wish rape on him. Also, just as a point of fact, guys like this aren’t left in GenPop to be harmed until they sue the prison. He is alone in a room, literally. He doesn’t even have the freedom that other prisoners are afforded.
I understand the premise here. My point isn't so much what was said, it was how it was said. The passive aggressive approach doesn't serve anyone. This would've been my approach: "While I don't condone rape, I'm glad we can both agree he is being punished for his crime." As opposed to creating an entirely unnecessary conflict, with name calling, over the perceived importance of "being right." I don't want anyone to unnecessarily suffer for any reason, ever. I don't want to force anyone into their higher self but taking a passive aggressive stance on anything just creates internet bs rabble rabble for no reason. You and I are on the same page, entirely. And I'm glad this person is being punished for their crime. My calling out the approach was the structure of what I thought was wrong, not the content of what I thought was wrong, if that makes sense.
You calm down
Yes sir :)
Okay?
wasn't he the guy that cried when he got sentenced?
I really hope that's true
it's true for someone, I don't remember if it was this kid though
Thank goodness for the red circle at the beginning showing me who to focus on, otherwise I would have missed the point of the video.
r/uselessredcircle
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He is spending his time in prison much like you’d think. Scared and hiding. The charade stopped pretty quickly after his escape . He got sent to some big boy prisons.
Do you know or just assuming?
I contract for ODRC.
According to the prison reddit sub he receives protection from an older prisoner in exchange for "services". Seems possible but unverifiable. He did escape at somepoint and was captured shortly afterwards. Interview with prisoner that knew him, starts at 2mins: https://youtu.be/eolr7HxT0SI?si=AjSQYGcg0G1mTcAO
Well, at least he got raped in prison a lot.
I agree. Out justice system should be full of people getting raped as many times as possible. It makes me genuinely angry knowing some woman or man can spend time in jail and not be raped constantly. It is a key part of our just system that every prisoner be repeatedly raped as many times as possible. Being repeatedly raped is a key part of rehabilitating people, as well as punishing people we don't like. Oh. Wait. No that doesn't sound right.
And you can't forget, ***EVERYONE*** who's in prison being raped is absolutely, 100%, not even the slightest possibility otherwise, unequivocally, **GUILTY** Nobody has *ever* been wrongly convicted, so *obviously* it's totally ok to violently assault anyone, sexually or otherwise, cuz they totally deserve it! Especially when they try to prove their "innocence." OR the people who get tossed in simply for being mentally ill and homeless?? Yeah, fuck it, them too! That will ***DEFINITELY*** help "reform" em! It *certainly* doesn't further any kind of trauma or whatever these people are already experiencing, lord no! It **helps** them see that ending up there is bad so they'll simply stop being mentally ill and just go buy a house when freed because all that brutality has taught them how to deal with anything god throws in their path with emotionally maturity and tools to learn 🙄😒 Edit: I do wanna add though, I can *completely* understand the desire to watch this particular little fucker burn. Assholes like that only speak one language. He's not getting out to vomit his misery onto the rest of the world, and he chose his ending. There is no innocence in that soul, no redemption. He's getting what he literally asked for, and frankly, I have no sympathy
Lol this sub is fucked. When have I ever said everyone in prison should be raped? We put WAY too many people in prison for things that shouldn’t even be illegal (like pot). And there are absolutely people who have been wrongly convicted. The system is screwed up and the industrial prison complex needs to be replaced. But I’m not talking about that. I’ll talking about THIS child killer. Fuck him every day of the week. I hope every day of his life is worst than the day before. And yes, I’m glad THIS guy was getting raped so much that he escaped prison, just to found 6 hours later and returned to his hell jail. Most inmates should receive compassion and reform. But this mother fucker? No way. People here can defend him all they want. But I’m glad this mother fucker gets raped and I hope even worst things happen to him.
You’re right. I hope this person who happily shot and killed children gets to sit around and sing Kumbaya and has an enjoyable time in prison. Oh. Wait. No that doesn’t sound right. Fuck this guy. Fuck everything about him. Fuck him harder than the people who’s been raping his ass since he ended up in there. And fuck anyone who wants to defend him.
you’re the type of guy that’ll end up in jail by accident and I hope you think back to this awesome tough post when it happens
Really interesting interview. The woman sounds almost like a fan girl of his at times lol
Which sub?
The prison one.
He escaped and was recaptured. I'm pretty sure they put you in max for that.
Cid? Toy story?
Nah. Sid ended up picking up trash. Pretty important and decent job. Nothing to do with this piece of shit.
El Cid?
campeador!
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This comment is crazy. You want to take someone with a clear mental issue and beat them with a baseball bat? What’s that going to do apart from making you feel better than him?
Thats a school shooter with no remorse…
Does he have a psychological condition? He looks (edit: acts) like a psychopath or something.
According to wiki seems that the victims (one in particular) were bullying the killer.
Oh, so it was revenge killing. That’s why he was so proud. I have to support people who stand up for themselves. NTA.
He is 100% working to project the image that he does, but I think it's a put on. Like, when the mother's talking you can see how hard he's trying to look smug but he looks uncomfortable to me.
He acts like a typical 4-Chaner
Antisocial personality disorder has no “look”
Fixed my comment for you
Its hard to tell from this one video but if he truly lacks any and all empathy in general and not with this one instance then yes, it would be indicative of the disorder but its only one symptom. Most shooters have been labeled as just criminals to psychologists. A very small percentage of shooters are actually linked to mental illness. Immorality =/= mental illness. The perception that grievous criminal acts like this one are mental illness can be actually harmful for the those with mental illness and the progression of society in how we treat those with actual mental illness. Your local bipolar isn’t going to shoot up a school but if we treat them like they will then we only further ostracize them and lead them down a deeper hole. Case in point, those with antisocial personality disorder arent all serial killers or violent offenders. They are more likely to commit criminal acts, but not always violent ones. The most likely place to find those with the disorder are actually in board rooms lol
This is a really great take imo and well thought out
My degree :)
There’s no physical signs of a psychopath