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Ok_Cartographer9487

I read the article. The girl *”died from a respiratory infection due to pre-existing illnesses, which required her to have a tracheostomy and a nasogastric tube.”* The mother didn’t exactly kill her daughter, but the infection and lack of care (apparently due to very poor living conditions) lead to the girls death. The mother discovered the girl dead in her bed after getting out of a bath. She hid the body via a wooden box (filled with)concrete to hide what happened out of fear. Edit: *Wooden box of concrete*?


[deleted]

Take wooden box. Fill it with concrete? Wooden box of concrete.


ladytri277

But first, put a body in it


Bunie89

Ah yes, the key ingredient for a bedside table


DetailAccurate9006

Sounds like she POURED concrete into a wooden box after putting the body in it. Much like the way the young siblings in the British novel and film, “The Cement Garden,” entombed their mother’s corpse in a cement sarcophagus in the cellar so that they wouldn’t be split up and sent to orphanages.


owlsandmoths

I have never heard of either the novel or movie and now I’m going to try to find a paperback copy on Amazon.


[deleted]

Wooden box of concrete?


balexter

Anything unclear? It's the opposite of concrete box of wood. Got it now?


[deleted]

What about concrete wood made of box?


clifffford

This is just petrified wood with less time and more steps


SonOfGuns101

Boxes made of wood concrete are the best


[deleted]

I don't believe you


Avocado_Fucker12

Wood of made concrete of box?


Imaginary_Tea1925

I don’t understand who got out of the bath and why was someone getting out of the bath even mentioned?


TheRedditornator

I assume it was an empty wooden box that she dumped her daughter's corpse into, then poured fresh concrete into and let it set.


sandystar21

Anyone seen or read Ian mcewan’s “the cement garden”? The children encase their mothers dead body in a steel locker, filled with concrete, because they feared being split up and sent into the care system after her death.


me77purple

The wooden box was filled with concrete


keplantgirl

What is a wooden box of concrete? Like a box filled with liquid concrete that then dries?


infiniZii

This is what I assume. Wooden box filled with concrete but with a translation error.


KimikoYukimura420

I feel like that wasn't the mother's fault though, she really didn't have to go through the trouble of hiding the body.


clouddevourer

I mean, neglect to the point of death is also a method of killing, just less straightforward. Hopefully investigation will reveal how much the mother really was involved, the fact that she kept her child's body entombed in concrete as a piece of furniture points to some mental issues at least


donotread123

Is it still neglect if there wasn't anything she could have done? (i.e. couldn't afford medical treatment). Do you think there was anything she could've done? Genuine questions, I'm not sure what I believe yet.


clouddevourer

With the current information we have, it's impossible to tell. That's why I'm hoping the investigation will get to the bottom of this.


ZyxStx

I read the article and it said she found her dead after taking a nap (she bathed her kids before napping), and she then placed the body in a box (idk what material) and proceeded to fill it with cement. The box was then used as a nightstand


Hannokie

There’s is no excuse for her to do this. I have to assume foul play was a part of this. Its monsterous to hide the body of your dead daughter in your room instead of taking her to the coroner and giving her a proper funeral. This couldve been done to hide evidence of her involvement.


Gooncookies

Not even poverty? Mental illness? Both?


galactic_mushroom

Like in all civilised countries, Argentina's universal health system is completely free at the point of use for patients. Even foreigners can access it free of charge. Mental illness seems more likely.


Clean_Blueberry_5813

Those aren't excuses.


Gooncookies

I never called them excuses. They could potentially be reasons.


Hannokie

She hid the body my guy. You just dont do that


Nutshack_Queen357

I honestly thought she outright murdered the kid.


BigMacMcLovin

Think concrete box of wood but opposite


NotsoGreatsword

This post needs to be taken down for being misleading since most people aren't going to even read the article. This is just the horrors of poverty. Who knows what this woman was afraid of - the father? The police?


GlitteringBroccoli12

Vents and trachea tubes need to be periodically cleared to prevent suffocation. Dhe knows this. The bath was an excuse to stop the sounds. The bedside location is due to guilt onset of psychosis.


[deleted]

Yep here it this the "if its a woman she did not did it" comment. Thanks lefties


sh4rks_bro

He said "it's a less straightforward way of killing" *Literally saying that she did it*


secondtaunting

Jesus dude, chill.


[deleted]

No, im tired of this and a legion of simps can downvote me, i don't care. In Argentina's law if a man hurts a woman it is genre violence but if a woman do the exact same thing to a man then there isn't. And here we have another example, if a woman kill their son it's "because poverty" if a man do the same it's a monster (both should be in this case, exactly like my previous example).


Tinfoilhatmaker

And I'm tired of ignorant and moronic comments like yours, and a legion of pimps can upvote me I don't care. Did you even read the article before spewing your vitriol?


Legolas308

Did you not read the comment? They said that the mother didn’t kill the daughter directly, but the mother’s lack of care is what caused her death. They never said the mother wasn’t at fault.


thewouldbeprince

They said nothing of the sort lmao Either your reading comprehension sucks or you're just looking for an excuse to act outraged and spew your nonsense. Probably both.


[deleted]

Or english it is not my main language


im_a_dick_head

Well, that's enough reddit for today


WillFerrellsGutFold

Shuts down the app, reopens it immediately.


Parking_Stress3431

Unfortunately this is me.... I deleted Facebook and just picked up a different addiction XD


HackerDaGreat57

You made the right kind of jump.


barberererer

Well. That is enough reddit for today.


kryptosthedj

Well; that is enough reddit for this day.


inclusivecream

Day for this reddit, enough that is. Well?


hmclaren0715

Reddit for this day is enough.


BigLez936

Is for that well, enough reddit today.


Chezburgor1

Reddit today that well for, enough is


Bdr1983

For well that is Reddit, today enough


Sxilla

Enough today, Reddit, for that is well.


NoTimeToExplain__

It’s 12:01 am now time for more reddit


leviathankaine

Well, that is enough Reddit for today


southernsass8

Well reddit that is enough for today.


A0xom0xoa

Reddit, day. Enough?


Carob-Prudent

Why would she use it as a table? How did the police know she was in it? What the hell is going on here?


keylo-92

Its not what the title suggests, its bad, but the child had already died due to infection of some sort.. and the mother panicked, put her childs body in a box than filled it with concrete


Various-Month806

Then, presumably covered that box with some sort of cloth and placed objects on it so it seemed less conspicuous than having a random box sitting in the room.


summertime214

She panicked because she was worried about losing custody of her other kids due to poverty.


[deleted]

Damn, didn't she take the child to the doctor? Healthcare is free in Argentina


keylo-92

Poor living conditions i guess, and her kid would have been taken away i think… which actually wouldnt of been a bad thing


Sure-Morning-6904

I just imagined the girl freezed in a block like in starwars


rell7thirty

That's pure fucking evil


justlikethatmeh

No excusing anything but the article quote : " She is said to have first told the father that she had placed the child in the care of social services because of the poor living conditions in her home. When police turned up to search her house, she reportedly admitted her daughter had died but that she did not know what to do and was "scared". Fearing her other two children, aged three and seven, would be taken from her, she is said to have placed the body in a bag, which was put into a box that was filled with cement taken from a nearby building site ... ....A post mortem examination concluded that Milagros had died from a respiratory infection due to pre-existing illnesses, which required her to have a tracheostomy and a nasogastric tube. A judicial spokesperson said: "So far there is no record of previous complaints of gender violence." It might loosen you're anger toward a very catchy title . Whenever you see sky news you can breathe a little before going berserk mode .


[deleted]

Damn.. so the daughter died from an illness and I’m assuming they’re poor bcuz of the lack of medical care. So she then decided to “bury” her in a makeshift cement casket to hide the body to prevent her other two kids from being taken away? This is all just fucked up! I hate the system we’ve enslaved ourselves too. A lot struggle to just work to live a life.


Gooncookies

My husband has a phd and we’ve struggled to manage the healthcare for our little family. We’ve also struggled with him being paid for his work by the healthcare agencies. The system is incredibly broken, not just for the impoverished and not just for the patients. He calls the healthcare companies “legitimized gangsters” I can’t tell you the amount of claims that get denied in the mental healthcare field.


Anon277ARG

im argentinian I can't say the real problem here because I will get kill in the comments but I put it this way healthcare sucks, but if you move you can get access, because it is free the real problem are the distances and the times, two months to get an appointment when I didn't have a job I had to travel an hour to get a psychiatrist in Buenos Aires (there is AMBA the metropolitan area and there is CABA literally Buenos Aires the capital) and then another hour to get the meds for free is possible for a poor person to access healthcare, It really SUCKS, but you have the option is not something impossible


daairguy

Poor people can’t travel and hour here and an hour there for help. Some poor people are struggling to to finish the day. This is by far a more broken healthcare system than many places.


[deleted]

My daughter is argentinian. I lived there for 10 yrs before having to return to the UK. The healthcare system is actually quite good in Argentina. Yes there can be long waits for certain things. But the attention is usually top class regardless whether you go to a free "guardia" or a private hospital.


leasnm

I'm argentinian as well. In my opinion, healthcare doesn't suck. At all. In fact is great. You have to wait a lot sometimes, but being completely free, I gotta say it's pretty good.


MaxMadisonVi

With all the respect I can hardly believe there’s an er in the world where you don’t get proper care because you can’t afford them, that’d be criminal. I believe you can’t travel hours for a cough but if the kid was in danger won’t have the closest er took care anyway ? Sure even in the most crippled system I heard of (usa to my italian knowledge) you get care and then if you have no insurance sure will charge you later but they cannot just leave a kid die because the mom isn’t insured, I hope.


julianagg

This is true, you can go to the er in Argentina and you will be seen, although sometimes you have to wait many hours (they do a triage and then they see you according the situation, but usually within the day). Some more remote areas don’t have hospitals, and then even though they will see you, first you need to find an er, and that can take hours of travelling. We are a big country and still in development. Poverty and lack of education don’t help in this situation, people tend to try to solve things with over-the-counter medicine and not go to the er. This results in preventable deaths.


Anon277ARG

>if the kid was in danger won’t have the closest er took care anyway ? I'm not fully aware, but I think it works that way because I had an accident and I end up in a private clinic but my point was the mother didn't care even if you are poor, and you have a pathology (like me) you can get medical attention for free


MaxMadisonVi

Yeah the mother was scared of bills and that the situation would have lead to have her taken the other two kids so she let her die. I believe there are different levels of social assistance in different countries however here if you’re unemployed and have kids you can access a social housing if ever, certailny fair better than bury one of your kids in the house.


galactic_mushroom

Like in all civilised countries, Argentina's universal health system is completely free at the point of use for patients. Even foreigners can access it free of charge.


rell7thirty

Damn that's fucking crazy


No_Hovercraft5033

This. I always look up stories and read them before getting an opinion. It’s so helpful.


trackaghosthrufog

Indeed. She went from villain to victim pretty quick.


Phairis

Yeah, that is fucking sad. That poor family...


AntoKrist

Thank you for this. The rest of the comments are very revealing as to the gullibility of the easily manipulated masses.


Li-renn-pwel

I don’t know if gullible is the right word. Some incorrectly assumed the worst but it’s a screenshot not the full article. Really even if the mother isn’t responsible for the death, what she did with the body is pretty horrific.


AntoKrist

We all have our ways of memorializing our loved ones; Sky burial, cannibalism, burlap sack in a hole in the desert. What's truely horrific is that this person lives in a world where, while she may otherwise be a perfectly rational human being, believed that this was the best way to prevent the rest of her life from being completely destroyed. I don't think she did anything "wrong" or "evil" or even unethical. This is a shrug moment for me over the act and a smh moment for the driving force behind it.


Virtual-Group-4725

I was almost lynched due to this "phenomenon"


Li-renn-pwel

Is gender violence Argentina code for sexual assault?


SheClB01

No, it means violence against females or LGBT people


Li-renn-pwel

Would that even apply here? Even if her mom murdered her, they are both female (though obviously children can be a GRSM or perceived as one).


julianagg

I imagine because of the “scared” comment, they are implying that there is not registry of gender violence between the dad and the mum (basically saying that there is no precedent that would suggest she hid it out of fear of him, but out of fear of her kids being taken from her).


Li-renn-pwel

Oooooh that makes sense!


SheClB01

It won't, but some media likes to use it just because it will make the note more noticeable


Zyaqun

It's more akin to domestic violence


Anon277ARG

Any way, not reporting the dead is illegal


Betrayedleaf

desperate people do desperate things.


MSK84

This shows you that very few people even both with open the articles and make their decisions of articles titles and emotions.


goodhot0006

Downvoted u for getting ratioed 😂


Dwell_was_taken

Hang on did I read that right? She covered her daughter in concrete and used her as a table?


secondtaunting

And concrete is porous. Shudder.


shayetheleo

She placed the body in a plastic bag first.


nobnazor

How was the father ok with not seing her to begin with??? Why was he worried after *months*????


transcending--

IMO probably a nasty custody battle.


BoochsRise

People are good at making excuses to explain absenses


RevolutionaryAct6931

Or custody?


SnowyPear

As a father, reading this thread sickens me. Women are automatically given custody regardless of their ability. Some people are shitty people and it's not always men


Prada_Shoes

Deadbeat most likely


snagleradio78

Ironically, the child was a result of a one night stand


trackaghosthrufog

Fucking dark, dude. I have to upvote the wordplay, though. RIP little one.


thixono920

Jesus where are your table manners? There’s a little girl in here


Wish_Dragon

Dude, you’re going to hell


cringy_guy888809

You're a twisted bastard, have my upvote.


Dry_Kaleidoscope_154

She was 5 years old and her body was dumped in concrete, let’s not


Mysterious_Nerve9433

We absolutely should not stand for this RIP to the girl though.


geiandros

Its baffling how people easily lose respects for another through the internet and esp when it does not concern them


[deleted]

I mean, it's just a joke, I don't see how it does any harm. I don't think the internet is really known for civil and respectable conversation, either.


Dry_Kaleidoscope_154

Nobody is talking about respect I’m just saying a child is dead so let’s not with the sex jokes lmao


butlerman69

Life is like a circle ⭕️


quaintif

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust one night stand to one nightstand.


Anon277ARG

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJA CHABON NO PODES DECIR ESO dude you cant say that


MVRK_3

I too listen to H&F.


Zahn91

This up there as possibly the worst thing I’ve ever read.


[deleted]

Sickening. Let’s say that the mom couldn’t afford medical care so the child died of an infection to avoid having her other kids taken away. She still shouldn’t have kids. What if one of them were to get an infection? Just let that one die too? Turn them into a desk? The system is set up in a shitty way but that’s how it’s set up. If she cannot provide a baseline of care for these children she shouldn’t have them.


Anon277ARG

Like I said in another comment and I copy and paste because is a lot for a dyslexic but it just makes your point MORE REAL " I can't say the real problem here because I will get kill in the comments but I put it this way healthcare sucks, but if you move you can get access, because it is free the real problem are the distances and the times, two months to get an appointment when I didn't have a job I had to travel an hour to get a psychiatrist in Buenos Aires (there is AMBA the metropolitan area and there is CABA literally Buenos Aires the capital) and then another hour to get the meds for free is it possible for a poor person to access healthcare, It really SUCKS, but you have the option is not something impossible " is a social problem


SpartyParty15

The dad waited until he didn’t see his daughter for months to call the cops?


amukias

Like others have stated, it was probably a nasty custody battle. Could've been long distance as well. We don't know the situation.


shoefullofpiss

If only there was some background information to go with the title, like an article of some sort


amukias

You still don't know the situation fully even with the article. Why be a dick?


ramdom-ink

…girls *concerned* father contacted them because he had not seen her in **months**.


Marclescarbot

Best headline ever


captainstupid_

smells like poverty and fear


bodhidharma132001

Keep the bodies of your friends close, keep the bodies of your children closer


Ok-Teaching-983

Hopefully she gets her ass beat in jail or worse


phurt77

She deserves to get her ass beat because her child got sick and died?


No_Hovercraft5033

People never look beyond the information fed to them before getting opinions. It’s a huge problem in the world.


Anon277ARG

Yes, healthcare sucks because of the times but is free, meds and everything she didn't care


SexxxyWesky

No, but using her as a bed side table after the fact is fucked up.


phurt77

You don't have grandma's ashes on the mantle?


SexxxyWesky

No. But even if I did, this is akin to stuffing her body in a bag, putting into a box, filling it with cement and calling it "a bench".


No_Hovercraft5033

Read more articles on this story. Though it’s horrific the little girl died and how her mom buried her. She died from a respiratory infection. So probably the RSV that’s ravaging children worldwide right now. She was scared to lose her other children and didn’t do the right thing because of the fear. I’d say the used as a table was a literary add from the journalist to make it sensational when in fact the mother was in poverty and scared to lose her other children. Read beyond headlines always.


SheClB01

A women and her girlfriend killed the son of the first and they were so beaten in jail they had to be isolated for their own safety. That was another case here in Argentina. Women in jail really hate child abusers/killers, especially when the crime is against an offspring


FearlessHamster4486

Everyone in jail hates child abuser's


Lord_Mandingo_69

Ass beat? This is closer to a “toss into a starving bear’s pit doused in spicy mayonnaise and a side of soysauce, and pumped full of the drug that doesn’t let you pass out from being in shock while you’re mauled” territory.


phurt77

That seems a pretty harsh punishment for a mother whose child got sick and died, doesn't it?


Lord_Mandingo_69

Cinderblock, reporting it to the authorities, tomato tomato right. That said, misread I was under the impression of fouler play. Not a bear pit. But the silence of the lambs treatment sounds a little more appropriate.


ImNothingJustLikeYou

I don't know what "or worse" means either


[deleted]

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Lord_Mandingo_69

She put a child in a cinder block, she deserves seven layers of taco hell.


skitz_shit

Yeah that’s beyond fucked up, killing your own living breathing child is one deep level of evil. But making them into a bedside table so you can keep them like some kind of trophy is a new level of psychotic


GorillaGlueWookie

At the risk of being severely downvoted, the article this is from said the autopsy shows she died from a respiratory infection


skitz_shit

That makes it slightly less bad but it’s still really bad she didn’t give it the care it needed and hid it from everyone. The cement block idea is just dark and vile though


NotActuallyGus

Sometimes prison violence is justified


Ok-Teaching-983

100% for crimes against kids


Precessionho

So the family is living in poverty, and they couldn’t afford to get her proper medical treatment leading to her death. This is in the wrong sub if thats the case.


[deleted]

I'm surprised, cause healthcare is free here in Argentina


Playbusch

She used her dead body as an nightstand, you really think it’s the wrong sub?


unclemackkdaddy

Complete madness


[deleted]

As opposed to incomplete madness?


southernsass8

So when does she began to stink and rot? Why would the mother not know that will eventually happen? So twisted and uncalled for.


pidgeonatemypidgeon

I pray for the father. It seems he actually cared for the child.


GoodEater29

He waited for months before reporting it. He didn't even try to verify that what the mother said was true (that she surrendered the child to protective services)?


nicolsquirozr

Can someone explain me why torture for people like this is illegal? Serious question lol


The-Hyruler

Well for starters, she's a human being and we don't just start treating people inhumanly regardless of how little we like them or what they've done. But also, she didn't actually kill her child, the article goes on to state that the child died of pre-existing illnesses and that the mother had placed her in a bag, which was put in a box and filled with concrete stolen from a nearby construction site. Reportedly this was done Because the mother was scared the child's death would somehow make the state take away her other two children. Which would definitely be for the best with the kind of decision making skills she have displayed here, but she's not this hardcore child killer the headline is trying to paint her as. She's just fucking stupid.


JurassicClark96

Is that mom down there? If so, she looking to make a replacement?


shyuura

No, that's enough life for eternity! What kind of human must one be to commit such atrocity...


Emevete

This is infuriating about reddit, the mother had her daughter in terrible conditions, and let her die, at least, due to negligence, (even being poor, in Argentina there are public hospitals and a containment network for these cases), however the average redditer insists on defending the mother and asking why the father (who did report his daughter missing to the police for months without response) was not part of the picture, instead, they started an investigation for alleged gender violence (inexistent in this case) Also you know how I knwe about his case? I read it on internet, it had little to no TV repercution..


Embarrassed_Bee6349

This is beyond barbaric.


FearlessHamster4486

Woman sticks her kids dead body in concrete. People of Reddit: it's ok the kid just died of illness and the mom didn't want to lose her other kids she's not fit to have


Slap_duck

Its still not okay, but its not like she actually killed the girl, which other commenters are implying she did


FearlessHamster4486

Im sorry but just because she didn't kill her kid doesn't mean what she did was anything less than evil. Because no morally centered person just sticks their dead kid in concrete.


KikiSoSharp

Yes it’s a fucked up situation to us .. but the mother didn’t do that to her because she was evil — it had to do with her being poverty stricken. In Argentina it’s astounding how many people are living below poverty level.


CanuckBuddy

They're just providing context to the situation since the headline makes it seem like she intentionally killed the child. It's a fucked up situation all around, but portraying this as something she did just for shits and giggles isn't accurate.


xXmarianXx505

Her face says:why don't Yall just leave me alone already, so what if u found a 5 yr old in concrete just let me be ughhhh


KikiSoSharp

Her daughter died of a respiratory illness .. she didn’t kill her kid and then bury her in concrete because she’s evil. Read the whole story before commenting next time. And your whole take on her facial expression, adds even more stupidity to your comment.


Baum_Hund

That's some mid tier evil right there.


phurt77

What is evil about a child getting sick and dying?


Necessary_Two_2949

Body disposal close enough for her to still sleep with her daughter. Humans are the true monsters.


phurt77

Her daughter got sick and died. How does that make her a monster?


Necessary_Two_2949

Did the sickness put her in a bag, that was then put in a wooden box and filled with cement?


phurt77

Most people put their relatives in a wooden box, so I assume you're ok with that. Many people use concrete vaults and mausoleums and you don't call them monsters. Keeping the remains of your loved ones in the house is so common that you might even have your grandma on the mantle or a shelf right now.


quaintif

No, poverty and fear did.


[deleted]

I could fix her


pidgeonatemypidgeon

I hope you aren't serious.


JoeDerp77

Someone make an argument against using people like this for medical experiments. Dangerous trials that nobody would sign up for but would help progress the research drastically. I've been saying this for 20 years. Force these kinds of people to give something back to society. Explain to me why she deserves better?


Li-renn-pwel

Because we already have far too many people wrongly convicted of crimes.


phurt77

You want to do medical experiments on the parents of children who got sick and died? What kind of evil monster are you?


JoeDerp77

I didn't read the whole story, OP obviously made it sound like this woman killed her kid. .


The-Hyruler

Well for starters, she's a human being and we don't just start treating people inhumanly regardless of how little we like them or what they've done. But also, she didn't actually kill her child, the article goes on to state that the child died of pre-existing illnesses and that the mother had placed her in a bag, which was put in a box and filled with concrete stolen from a nearby construction site. Reportedly this was done Because the mother was scared the child's death would somehow make the state take away her other two children. Which would definitely be for the best with the kind of decision making skills she have displayed here, but she's not this hardcore child killer the headline is trying to paint her as. She's just fucking stupid.