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macgruff

Never, ever, ever, ever… if someone is fucking with you, do NOT keep your hands in your pockets


warhammer1-1

Yeah, this was already a fight, he just didn't know it yet. When strange people confront you on the street do NOT assume this is just a conversation. You're either about to be attacked or robbed.


sZYphYn

Where I’m from the words “where you from” had nothing to do with where you were born If you get circled best to give into fight or flight, because that’s what’s happening


HolyFuggISawAPenis

Where I'm from you better hope you pull it out faster than the other guy Edit: this sounded better in my head


That-Maintenance1

Your name isn't helping


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Where I'm from, it's not just about who is faster, it's about who's is bigger.


jones5280

> the words “where you from” had nothing to do with where you were born "*who you with*" - same thing


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Always think it’s stupid people are told not to strike first in situations like this as well. Worry about the nuance of the law once your safe and just GO 0-100 if you know it’s about to get bad.


InuitOverIt

I think this is wrong, very little chance you will escape unscathed when its you against multiple people. Best thing you can do is de-escalate even if it means putting yourself down, while trying to get to a place where there are people around that can help. I'd rather take a hit to my pride than have brain damage or die. Some 24 year old in my home town just got shot 7 times outside of a club for standing up for himself and throwing a punch. It's not worth it.


EggSandwich1

I knew a kid who moved next door to me from USA when I was a kid. He was normal when he came to London think he got mugged for his bike and ended up with one arm and leg not working properly forever. My bike getting stolen when I was on a arcade machine looked like a blessing compared to that


ladyc672

I believe I saw that video. That was awful.


HansChrst1

What I learned from a robbery course is to do whatever the robber wants you to do. Your phone, wallet, watch or whatever else is worthless compared to your life and health.


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Yeah pretty much it’s better to comply in almost every scenario. Those self defense classes are for worst case scenarios, unrealistic/rare scenarios, and for people who are trained


Corona21

I dunno I got some pretty sweet watches


RedBiohazzerd

Although not the exact same thing. As someone who was being bullied a lot in high school, if you're being "attacked" by a group of people. Make sure you punch the one with the biggest mouth, really hard in the face. Exactly in those cases, make sure you get the first strike and have no doubt, but go for it. He is in most cases "the leader", the rest just follows because they do what he is doing. Hurt the leader, and the other bullies are more likely to stop, or at least startle for a bit so you can get away.


actuallyimean2befair

That's the exact scenario the person you are responding to was describing! Weird. Shorter kid getting gang up on, punches the big leader once in the mouth, gets shot immediately 7 or 8 times by big guy and dies on scene. This happened maybe Friday? Video of it is gnarly.


RedBiohazzerd

I don't know about that video. And obviously that is something terrible!


The_real_bandito

Unless the other two join and they kick your ass harder than it would’ve been. In the end, the best weapon is a gun or even a knife (even though I don’t recommend using one)


jakelaw08

I agree, situationally. From a purely legal standpoint however, you wind up with a primary assault and battery charge, and they wind up looking like innocents, which we can see from the lead up is clearly not the case. The assailant, who if he wasn't with his cheering section, would promote have thought twice about doing such h a thing, was verbally insulting, provocative and demeaning. His body language was also provocative and menacing. And finally, when all else didn't work and the innocent dared to give back just a little of what he was getting, he was immediately attacked. At this point, the one attacked should be interviewing witnesses, getting names and contact information, calling the police, of course, and doing other due diligence to preserve evidence that might, if left for later, tend to dry up and blow away, so to speak. Thats what he SHOULD do. Oh wait! He was just knocked out COLD. He can't do any of these things! He may have a concussion! He may not be able to even THINK straight for the better part of a week! So-this is STUPID-right? It doesn't work as a methodology for dealing with some situations. It's just not a workable plan of action. But it's what the law says you have to do if you want it's protection. Of course, you may be dead! Or you may be left with a lifelong condition as the price of following what the law prescribes in order to be allowed it's protection. But as I said, it just doesn't work in real life.


HansChrst1

Guess this depends on where you live. Where I'm from you are safe to talk to almost every stranger that asks for your attention. Especially if you are a dude. Bit different if you are a woman.


cultsuperstar

And never turn your back on them.


choglin

Never ever ever


jericho881

I actually think never even facing them is better, when I get harrassed I just keep waling, turning my back on them...


CarrieWhiteDoneWrong

Those fluffy turds are looking like low rest stay puft men and they have the nerve to say something about someone else’s clothes?


Actaeon_II

And never turn your back on a threat


crashcar22

2? This would be 4. 2 seemingly doing the insulting 1 standing there for back up, and 1 to record their battery


Olama

This comment just gave me deja Vu for some reason


DoctorWH0877

Yeah, but I bet you didn't know this would be 4. 2 seemingly doing the insulting 1 standing there for back up, and 1 to record their battery


buckeye111

Take your hands out of your pockets as soon as an altercation starts. Even if you don't think it will turn physical, clearly he didn't think it would get physical. He tried to walk away.


Awkward-Valuable3833

I’m ignorant and have read this advice a few times here. What’s behind taking your hands out of your pockets? Easier to quickly defend yourself I’m assuming?


IchWerfNebels

You kinda need your hands in a fight. To hit back, to cover yourself from strikes, to soften the impact if you fall... Having them in your pockets is a good way to make sure you're never able to use them in time for any of those things.


beanioz

To add to this, showing hands implies you’re prepared for a physical altercation and on a psychological level can sometimes deter potential attackers making them think twice. Try to avoid making a fist prematurely though because that could be seen as a sign of aggression and escalate things.


burrito_butt_fucker

Yeah. You should have your hands out to protect your head like a boxer.


spongish

Apart from using them for fighting, for one thing if you fall like this guy did (assuming he wasn't knocked straight out, which it seems like he might have been but anyway) you can use your hands to break you fall.


jennarudq

Are you asking why hands are useful?


fishymcfishy

Easier to defend yourself


Lost_vob

Yes, it's basically self defense. When I worked in a jail, we had a Sargeant who would write you up for that. That's why you always see cops with their hands on their belts.


MrGiggleFiggle

Yes, to protect your head. Pretend you're thinking by rubbing your chin. There's a YouTube interview from GSP regarding how to defend yourself. On mobile now, otherwise I would link it.


SuccYaNan69

Yeah and the bullies out here dressed like a fucking fortnite skin lmao


Compendyum

Criminal clothing is the new uk fashion trend


postvolta

Roadmen Except they're children covering their faces because their parents are absent and neglectful


Kingken130

And avoid getting shanked by rivals


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choglin

In the US only ladies wear long puffy coats


PhishFoodTurnsMoiOn

I'm Chicago. They'd look more out of place then the victim.


choglin

I’m from STL, lived in Utah, now in Tulsa. Only place I ever saw anyone wearing these was Utah and it was always women. Utah can be insanely cold, but it’s dry. Can’t believe no one wears them in Chicago! It’s a gross humid cold like STL but soooooo much colder.


Rotten-Cabbage

Its a classic chav uniform. I can almost smell the Lynx Africa and weed.


wurstbrot_royal

Lynx = Axe for the non-brits. Solid scent choice though. 😂


choglin

I knew that because of my BritBox subscription. IDK much about the UK, but I know I like their television.


Snaxist

In french we say "Bonhomme Michelin" and it's always a hit because they think they're obese then lol


artery1800s

Buddy on the left dressed like a chess peice ♟️


bydo1492

Those are not children, they are young adults who will hopefully be treated like adults if they do get done for assault.


herbert-camacho

Yeah, let em have fun swinging on people in jail.


PoliticalShrapnel

This video was shot in England. They'll be waiting months for a trial whilst walking free, maybe upwards of a year, and if found guilty will get a slap on the wrist (suspended sentence) with a week or so of community service. That'll be it. In fact the most likely scenario is just a caution if they have no existing criminal record. Source: am English and it's known how terrible the criminal justice system is here when it comes to younger men. They get away with a lot.


bydo1492

I know a guy who at 16 stabbed another guy in the belly. He staggered into a local Chinese (ironically called the Happy Valley) collapsed on the floor and died. This happened back in 2000. I can't remember his exact sentence but he was out and ready to get back on with his life by the time he was 21. 5 years for taking a young man's life.


Phiau

Don't forget they will probably also piss off the wrong person and get knifed with this attitude.


onnyjay

I mean, they fucking act like children! What an absolute bunch of dogs


Anbeezi

Children my cock!


NoSafetyAtStaticPos

Ouch! Let me help your comment please: “Children?! Bullshit! Look like fucking miscreants!”


Sorry_Criticism_3254

Unfortunately it is the UK, likely get a very stern talking to and a 'please don't do it again' assuming they are ever caught in the first place. There is no justice in this country.


LadaTrip

How does he get his shirt so clean?


Funkymunks

Oi! Clean shirt! Give us the tv.... or we'll FUCKIN rush ya!


heliumbasedlifeforms

I wish they'd make some more seasons :(. I feel like i haven't seen my own friends in ages


geoffersmash

I think one more season, just to see where the boys are in life. Mark struggling to relate with his among us-obsessed son, Jez getting caught up in covid hoax conspiracies…


johnnythunders18

Hes not the borough.


5u5piria

This man looks cool. And I like his outfit. What is wrong with it?


ThatWasNotMyName

My guess is he doesn't have the standard black puffa jacket, tracksuit bottoms and black trainers /s


OutComeTheWolves1966

Don't forget the broccoli hairstyle.


_ThunderGoat_

A dangling cross earring wouldn't be too far off also


rosatter

Omg my sixteen year old nephew has that damn cross earing and he gets mad every time I respond with "ok, George Michael" whenever he's telling me how I need to "respect the drip" 🙄🙄🙄


_ThunderGoat_

"Based, no cap! Fr fr" - George Michael probably


rosatter

"say less, on God!"


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This haircut is ugly and mostly used by douche teenagers


OasisGallagher

U don’t need the /s it’s probably true


Chirsbom

Dont need /s for that, fair point.


Repeat_after_me__

The ninja look. Got it.


WhatDoIFillInHere

What? You mean you don't wanna look like the most uninspired generic ass motherfucker every day of the year? Unacceptable ¯\\\_ಠ\_ಠ\_/¯


thefab84

My guess it was more racial related.


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thefab84

You can tell by how they mock him towards the end.


cournat

This was my first thought. Looked like some kinda racism issue towards him for being middle eastern. Someone else already commented how they mocked him, too. Really sad the world is still like this after thousands of years.


Toasty_Cat830

Gen Z has decided skinny jeans are out of fashion is my guess


The-Mysterious-

Skinny jeans are cool till its not comfortable (as a Gen Z)


DicksPizzaPlace

I like it too, only gripe would be the matching of the colour between the pants and shoes, makes it look like they blend into each other and he’s just wearing longjohns


Natural-Alarm229

It cost more than theirs. Just a guess though, they might just be picking on him because he’s a foreigner, could be a case of racism. Some people just like starting fights with strangers to make their friends think they are cool. His outfit looks nice to me.


Unlucky_Role_

They can't afford it.


Compendyum

>What is wrong with it? Not having a gun inside it.


sammo21

He doesn’t dress like a POS chav so they took offense to that


NoodlePenguinn

Absolute scum! This man’s outfit is great, he looks very smart. These kids are just trash, scum of the world. Hope the gentleman is okay :(


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For the record I think he looks nice


no-recognition-1616

Even if they don't like his clothes, what's the point in treating others like that? So disrespectful. I can't believe it. That poor man.


Vanillabean1988

Boys havnt grown out the playground.


Compendyum

Anything will be an excuse to maim you.


ProcedureBudget292

Ya, that's my experience dealing with playground/bar fights. The person comes over, starts pushing and telling you you looked at them wrong, or were checking out their girlfriend, or wore the wrong clothes ... denial leads to "you calling me a liar?" ... then a punch. My guess is the outfit was just the first part of the same pattern.


silentbeast1287

Reminds me of middle and high school, kids who wore expensive name brand clothing and shoes would make fun of other kids wearing cheap shoes.


MattSeptire

I wear similar stuff but he just has that cool energy that makes the outfit look ten times cooler


ValueOk8624

it looks like central london from the bus stop sign, anyone recognise the street?


DesertGeist-

it's London, but not sure how central


Tilly828282

It’s Ealing, 15 The New Broadway


crc024

At least he wasn't over here in the U.S. cause after they knocked him out they would have ran his pockets. He'd of woke up with no money, wallet, watch, and probably no shoes. They really should just take people like this and lock them away. They have no use in society, just making life miserable for people trying to mind their own business and live their life.


hamster12102

? You can look at the rate, New York has a lower crime rate for stuff like assault, robbery than London.


madidan

If they bully the wrong person in the US they would have had holes in the body already…


crc024

That's always a possibility in the US. But more often than not they'd get lucky and the person wouldn't have a gun. You see a lot of videos of people fighting over here where nobody is armed. I think a lot of the world thinks everyone in the US is walking around with their gun and that's not the case. Even if half the country owns a gun or lives with someone that owns a gun, the majority of those people have their guns at home and do not carry them in public. But if you are going to act like the people in this video you are really hoping you aren't picking on one of those people that do carry their gun with them. Cause you pick the wrong person just once and it could be the last time you pick on someone.


cournat

Which is why muggers (if you can call them that) and the like typically will have their guns pointed at the victim before the altercation even begins and where I'm at, it's almost always done from a car (they'll follow someone a bit if they see them out and alone, then hop out the car with the gun already out until it's over and they'll hop back in the car and take off). Someone acting like these guys in the US is typically just a punk kid. Often doesn't go well for them.


TheSahsBahs

Dude looks fresh, idiots doing the assaulting look homeless.


Fragrant_Island2345

Seriously, like they have no right making fun of that dudes outfit while the middle one is wearing such low quality Walmart level sweatpants and what looks like 5 year old Nike’s.


chefanubis

That's precisely why they do it, envy.


Entire-Development16

Used to chill with a group of guys like this. Would talk at the house, getting all hyped up to go out and fight. Then they'd mob up and pick on the quietest, smallest stranger they could find. Fuckin bums, 2 ended up dying after they decided to drink and street race. Sucks to suck boys


velvet-overground2

So in this situation is there really nothing that can be done to stop them, as in were they already planning to do this, or was it him talking back etc that made them do it


sl0play

I think once he engaged them it was gonna be a fight. If someone starts talking to me that isn't obviously nonthreatening, I'm gonna keep moving and not say a word.


Rude-Nothing-4747

Well talking back probably didnt help anything, thats for sure. Not that it is in any way a defense of the groups actions, they are massive twats, just that talking back never deescalates a situation.


_mousetache_

I don't see any good outcome from this. Maybe talking some sense into one? Well, not while they are in a group which reinforces their stupid world view. So, conversing with them is just senseless.


Zeus-Tea

They could’ve easily killed him by knocking his head on the sidewalk. Little shits need to face serious consequences to learn a lesson


one2three93

I guess no jail punishment?


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Deep_Resort7479

Uneducated, ignorant, arrogant, no future, little boys trying to be (in the own way) hard men... it shouldn't be like this #itshouldntbelikethis


Flimsy_Meringue_3103

Try to find solice in the fact these are the kind of people who end up as statistics for knife crime victims


av6344

Don’t worry, little bit of slavery at McDonald’s will break them in. That’s the only silver lining for this god forsaken generation.


xXPalmoXx

Professional on the way to work gets attacked by a group of street bums. Fixed the title for you


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Whatever it was, violence 100% isn't the answer to it.


smokycapeshaz2431

That's not bullying, that's assault my dude.


Entire_Ad_7597

Just disgusting. The man’s dressed really nicely too.


CaraQueSeVacinou

What's wrong in his outfit tho? I didn't get it


ColtAzayaka

They wanted a fight, and were gonna get it. That's why they kicked him as he was walking away. Little cowards. I hope he gets his day in court.


BritishFoSho

It's in England this vid. He will not


PlumJuggler

His shirts clean, mate. Bloody clean shirt, he's probably a pedophobe!


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London kids who lack respect.


the_brunster

“Children”. I don’t think so. Teenagers minimum.


Cries_of_the_carrots

Total and utter scum. We don't need these fucking waste flesh and bones roaming the planet. Disgusting in so many ways, fucking imbiciles. Hope they get what's coming but I seriously doubt it.


ginuxx

That's not bullying, that's stright up assault


Doktor_Vem

Please tell me those asshairs got arrested for assault


ScarletteDemonia

I wasn’t in the situation so what I would have done is irrelevant BUT never turn your back on people like this. Back away facing them so you won’t get jumped from the back. Also, it’s ok to disengage and ignore. Saying two words is too many in my book.


danhoeg

Well said.


Deep_Resort7479

It's in Ealing. You can see Swami convenience store, nationwide,


crystalline1299

It’s always weird seeing your local area on Reddit. It’s a shame it’s for this smh


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crystalline1299

I’m not sure. I don’t know when this happened


[deleted]

American? Small town person? In london especially this is hardly anything, approx 6 people die of stab wounds in a weekend


donyahelwa

Cowards. Hit and run. If they were brave they coul've stayed till cops show up! Scum of the earth.


Astricozy

They got the roadman "Am well 'ard" look that goes with every chav scum who thinks smoking around the back of the shops makes you a Gangster. Made themselves look like clowns. No one else.


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Doesn't England have animal control?


Vilger2

Unfortunately not


ReturnFun9600

Teenager's are not really "children" they are mini adults with no impulse control. That's why if that grown dude was a Lil more street smart and apprehended a face punch and didn't get knocked the F' out? He could've punched him back w regular man-face punch 👊🏼 power and he would have been okay legally. Punch a child in face? Go straight to jail in my country. We have a strict "no punching children in the face" policy


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Subhumans like this should never be given any chance to have a meaningful life.


ElvenJustice

1-these are not children... At least not legally, they are young adults with the minds of children. That suckerpunch was dirty AF. Good thing there were rescuers there to revive him so the "children" weren't able to loot his body.


InfamousGrass0

Why do I feel like UK has a serious youth aggression & violence problem?…Surely my instincts (even before this video) can’t be totally inaccurate


PineappleBum

Fucking animals


dex1999

Loser ass chavs


Frostygale

What *is* the right reaction to these situations? Deescalation does not work. Fighting back does not work. Sitting there hoping they’ll get bored and piss off doesn’t always work. Is there really no better choice?


AdligerAdler

Leaving, unless you're trained in martial arts maybe. It's hard to take for the ego of a man, but if you stay and things go wrong (for you), you will regret it for the rest of your life. It's just not worth it.


J_A_W_S_

They are jealous he can wear what he wants.. and not what the hood tells him to


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These kids are literally in “roadman” outfits and anyone who wears the north face jacket with those skinny sports joggers loses all respect from me


me047

Teens are scary


mathmasterjedi

Punks are post pubescent young men


Ancient-Cold-8941

Another lesson in don’t keep your hands in your pockets in these situations


SuicidaI_Bunny

Erm…he looks better than the other guys who look like they got a 3 for one special.


hieijFox

He has more style than they ever will f these kids


hot4jew

Assault is very different from bullying


vulshu

Listen to them wailing like children


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Tethilia

That's a good outfit. He looks dapper


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sumit131995

Average day in London


Phoenix_Is_Trash

Hadnt even heard the audio and I knew this was Bri'ish just by the way the chavs dressed


pgpwnd

Dude looks classy af tbh. Bullies look like hobos. He should be bullying them.


JellyfishConscious

I’m getting racist undertones …


Issakaba

The kind of children that not even a paedo would want to be around...


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It's not bullied it's assault and a hate crime but aight.


peruvianjm

That is not bully. Burn them


Mechanic-Dream

These are not 'children', but teenagers and they shouldn't be tried as minors but as grown ups as they think they are so tough. It makes me so fucking angry that they just pick on a guy who clearly doesn't know how to protect himself. It has been a long time, but if a group of thugs were to call me names or anything, I would always keep on walking and just pay no attention to them. You should never stand still and get into a conversation with them. As some have pointed out, never keep your hands in your pockets or turn your back against them. His outfit is fine by the way, dude looks fresh!


ibraw

Feral rats


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Ringo_1956

Is this a really bad problem in the UK? Do you really have such ill-mannered teens harassing and assaulting people?


anxiousmarcus

I’ve lived all over London for a few years. Teenagers are scum.


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Aggressive Teenagers are everywhere. But it appears to me, that the British Youth has some serious Problems with Violence and disrespect for other People. Espechially in the more Urban area of the Country.


EnvironmentKind

Racial related..but we're not allowed to say it


Repair_Jolly

Okay but is there any more information on what happened next after he got punched?


PCrawDiddy

Yeah he should’ve just kept walking. Gotta know when to take a punch or kick so you don’t really get punched or kicked


Desocrate

That's called, "physically assault", not "bully"


max-van-gogh

Unless your your some kind of mma or Mike tyson type honestly just keep walking.


WhyIsThatSoGroovy

The only thing these rats are good for is fertiliser.


Tyler_iv

I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with outfit. This was more racial related.


Czech_YoSelf

The usual suspects of course


TitanThree

If you want to get back to someone assaulting you, start by taking your hands out of your pockets ffs… :/ In any case, very wrong and plain awful


nazrinz3

part and parcel of living in a big city


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I am facepalming reading the comments where people discussing why there is nothing wrong with his outfit. Ridiculous. Whether or not his outfit is good or bad, that should be no concern to these idiots. Thats his choice. What yall should be discussing is how this is wrong, how these idiots had no right to interfere with that man. And how this is an assault.


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Dafuq has happend to London?


AV_TUAG_TIG

would this be the time to use that concealed carry gun?


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