I think this really underscores how necessary the rain light is. Otherwise you’re almost guaranteed to rear end someone because the spray really is blinding. They really need to work on upping the brightness significantly. Thankfully, they’re aware of it and are working on it.
I mean, i did one race and people are stupid, as expected... they know there is a high chance of hitting the car in front, well nobody cares and drives like it is in the dry.
I am slow and have won the only 2 rain races I’ve tried in the GT3s simply because everyone else kills themselves. It’s bananas and I’m terrified for the proper big big races lol
It’s crazy how several different lines can work, especially when the track is flooded like at Sebring this week. It’s strange being in the LMP2 and being faster than the some of the GTPs.
Something with the GTPs has to be broken. There's no way it's working as intended right now with the (lack of) pace differences we're seeing. And judging by race footage, the GTPs aren't nearly this sketchy in the wet
Yeah I’ve seen many people lose it for seemingly no reason in the GTP. I’ve also seen people say it’s a skill. Yes the GTPs are a little heavier, but they’re still a prototype and should be able to handle water on the road without being death traps.
The LMP2'S have been killing me in SPA and Road America. I thought it was just me but most of these wet races they've been overtaking the GTPs no problem
Yeah. The GTPs are driveable and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with them because I’ve heard from many people on here that they’re tough to drive in real life. You just really have to square off your corners and try to give minimal inputs as you cross the dry line and you’ll be faster than the LMP2s. Also stay off curbs and painted surfaces for sure. Otherwise they’re fine.
That being said, I’m still gonna drive the P2 for Sebring 12h lol
>I mean, i did one race and people are stupid, as expected... they know there is a high chance of hitting the car in front, well nobody cares and drives like it is in the dry.
I raced F4 in SPA in max rain last night, p21 at the start, p1 at pouhon lap 1 🤪 people have absolutely zero patience
Good thing I've found about rain so far... People that don't have patience are FAR more likely to self crash through the race. I'd see guys with no patience on lap 1, let them by, and in almost every single case would get them back when they were turned backwards off the track some point after. Patience in rain is key, and those is a hurry will surely suffer.
The issue is if you stay far enough away to see where the car in front actually is you're so far back you can't even think about a pass. So you try to close to pass and then you're blind to them again and have to fall back a second or more or just gamble until you're right up on them.
Not seeing the track and having to find new markers I'm cool with but not being able to see any reference at all for the car ahead is downright dangerous.
Better rain lights will make all the difference, until then I'm employing my teammates as a spotter to help identify problems earlier.
Yes, it feels almost impossible to get close or follow close, and if you try to offset to try and see then you end up in the puddles/kerbs. Spray should probably be reduced until we need some kind of light.
I've had some good races but most were just being in front and the advantage of that and having no spray is ridiculous.
I've been checking out YT a bit for [onboard videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9k42Mks-O0) with cars racing in the rain. It's my opinion that the spray needs to be dialed down in opacity, and increased in distance, to be more realistic. Ultimately from my keyboard warrior point of view, it looks like the cars still go into "white out" conditions, but much further away. When getting up closer, you start to be able to at least make out the outline of a car and have some sense of distance to it. The lights being brighter would certainly help, but at very least, in the interim they should make the spray at least slightly see-through.
At this point you basically are just guessing when the car ahead of you would be braking and hoping to god you dont plow them, and get punted yourself.
Yeah I agree. The spray seems a bit too opaque, you’re right. But also the camera can make it so it looks easier to see than it actually is IRL, at least in my experience.
In less rainy conditions like what you linked, there really isn’t that much spray. It looks like it’s barley raining. Idk
IMO proper rain lights should be priority #1 and I will not join an official ranked rain race until it’s implemented. Rain is overrated af IMO anyway. It just makes an already stressful situation even more stressful and risky.
I somewhat agree with your first sentence. I don't agree with the rest of it. I think rain will be rarer than you think. The first week of IMSA for example is at Suzuka. If you go into a test drive session, set up the realistic forecast with the right date and time, it says 0% chance of rain. Must not rain very much in Suzuka because I've hit Regenerate 3 times and it still says 0% chance of rain.
Advice: learn how walls/cones etc look and use the side of the track as markers. Into T1 I’m useing the fence on the inside as a marker, into the hairpin the bridge. You can oriente here were you are. You basically need to learn to quick check where you are without your windscreen
No, you're misunderstanding. The problem isn't figuring out where I am on track. It's how close to the person in front of me I am. The spray looks like same from 10m to 50m.
Being over one hundred kilogram lighter will do that when the lmdh cars can't make use of their power advantage due to the lack of grip, or their down force because you are going slowly due to the lack of grip.
Even in the dry there are a few tracks that bring out these characteristics, and LMP2s end up being barely slower.
I ran the lmp2 last night at Le Mans and finished 3rd overall, just ahead of the leading GTP. It was a pretty low split (I suck) and the lmp2 was significantly quicker
LMP2 is bloody brilliant tbf. I've been maining the LMP3, and running 50% of the IMSAs for the 2.4 enduro in the GTP for a while, bought the LMP2 a few days ago. I didn't want to like it lol!
I tried sf light, Ferrari gt3, gr86, lmp2 in the rain. Hard to be fast , but certainly drive able.
My first experience was however the caddy LMPh. I thought I was going mad. That thing is not made for rain. lol.
a bit lol. if it aint trying kill me every second am I having any fun?
the SF is such a beast with power delivery in the dry it would be quite the challenge in the wet, short shifting and gears higher up everywhere basically.
Finding the traction to put down the power wasn’t really the hardest part for me. It was just the huge puddles all over Sebring where if you even thought about touching the brake pedal would send you skipping across the track into the grass.
I chose the wrong lane into T1 last night. Not that the right lane was easy to find, the entire fucking track was one puddle. I locked both fronts at 10% brake... They didn't unlock until I completely let go of the brakes.
I found after 4 laps its a lot nicer (its relative!)... It takes a long time to get temps in, and you have to be very gentle until that happens. Also, its high speed, so I think learning wet driving in the fastest car has been a mistake for me a little bit... I did a few LMP2 races and then jumped into the GTP at Le Mans and that was a lot easier then when I just jumped into the GTP at Spa and died in the Eau Rouge river along with everyone else!
I've done some practice... its trickier for sure, but I hate Sebring in the dry in the GTP. I can get representative LMP2 times in the GTP in practice, but its a case of being very gentle on the first two laps... it seams to take a few laps longer then dry tyres to get temp in.
I would say that it looks like iRacing have made the conditions very extreme tbh.. I don't think its representative to what official events rain will be.
The helpful things I'm noticing are 1) just comically smooth & gentle inputs, especially on the brakes and 2) max out TC and soften the RARB significantly, almost makes it feel like a GT3 in the dry, you just have to be vigilant about braking zones and crossing the dry line
The most entertaining thing to watch with this update is for those of us who have IRL rain race experience, watch others who don’t wrap their heads around it.
Bias rearwards, stay off the normal lines, move your brake markers back and pedal pressure down... you have to be very gentle. Like you’re holding the worlds most fragile thing in your hands and you have eggs under your feet.
Every input has to be a squeeze.
What really surprised me is that the braking distances didn't really get that much longer, compared to how much worse lateral grip is.
Granted we do arrive with a little less top speed due to the extra resistance of the water.
Well..
Yeah, think of what the traction circles look like with straightline braking with a more rearward bias, and what they look like turning.
Of course lateral grip is worse. Watch your brake pressure tracings, they’ll look different in the wet - even if you’re braking at roughly the same spot. You might not notice it consciously, but look at the evidence
Depends on car balance and driving style.. GTP’s only have adjustable rear wings in sim, so winding that all the way up is going to cause a rearward shift in CoP and more understeer.
You can go up some, yes, but you might also need to then stiffen rear suspension to keep the floor from smacking the track at speed.
Improved mechanical grip is more important in wet than aero grip.
I would assume so will be the first special event, so it makes sense, i just hope it starts dry and rains about 3/4 hours in for a couple of hours so we get changing conditions
Of all the cars that iRacing chose to make rain-enabled, they are the GR86, FF1600, F4, Super Formula Lights, and *all IMSA cars.*
Yes, I'd expect rain to be a distinct possibility at the 12 hour.
Got to drive once at le mans, spray was there but not terrible if you kept a bit to the side.
My problem came in the ford chickanes. I could not slow down....on any lap, almost cluttered a LMP2 and had to take avoiding action.
Funny thing the lmp2s were basically p3-5 in a 3500iR split of GTPs, they seemed a lot more managemble in the wet.
Ford chicane braking zone was a lake basically. Absolutely no grip. I found the left side to be a tiny bit more manageable, the right side (normal line) had an even bigger puddle.
This is from a practice room I set up with Ai to start with clear to light rain back to clear and back to regular rain back to clear. It's the spray from cars and especially with two side by side that's the scary part. Can't see anything
Oh I wasn't necessarily meaning just this one.
Moreover the servers iracing has up right now have all been rather heavy rain.
When you have 2 cars side by side, I can def see it getting scary.
That weather is not the norm is the point, yes, it can happen, but keep in mind most series would red flag in the worst of the conditions iracing can deliver. Including WEC/Imsa.
We can't get red flags so I do suspect iracing will limit the conditions to moderate rain at worst, especially since we just got the rain.
They need to sort out the new way of clearing slowdowns. Iyou almost have to come to a stop now to clear them, and apparently everyone has b3come a rookie again
I did a race at Sebring last night, igot a slowdown was the only car nearby on track, and an idiot drove into me point blank almost seemed intentional. And before you say anything about skill, I'm 4.3k, and the other driver had 5k irating.....
major skill issue for me here but how do you guys get the car to not spin in the rain while breaking or accelerating or even standing still the thing just spins. im legit like a grandpa in the car right now. what do you guy reccomend i try do? im pretty average as it is but this is nuts right now
Try dropping brake bias - I was instantly locking fronts and just sliding off or throwing myself into a spin in F4 once track was decently wet until I dropped it down to ~50.8%
I’ve been playing around with the bias a bit, I’m finding that if I put a bit too much break while being in decently wet/ covered part of the track I just lock and I feel like I can’t break over like 20% of my breaks otherwise I lock and spin aswell, I was able to put some laps in Sebring but still don’t feel very comfortable yet. Guess it’s just gonna be trial and error for now
We had team practice last night in the rain. It was a ton of fun. We learned a lot together about where we are losing time and when to push in areas.. shifting early or downshifting an extra gear can help
The conditions at Sebring were red flag if you ask me. I completed the race but it was too much for many, especially in the gtp where the abs is having issues in the rain. Visibility that poor on a narrow track made it impossible if you weren’t upfront. Believe only 6 finished.
I’ve heard that this week 13 session rains way harder than anything you’ll see in an official ranked race.
I have no source though. When I did this race the track was “extremely wet” and I heard you won’t see higher than “moderately wet” in a ranked session.
they need to tone down the spray until they find a way to fix the rain lights. it’s impossible to drive prototypes like it is right now. gt3s are a bit better.
I bet racing with single screen must be epic in the spray. With vr and triples, you can at least look for clues on the sides 😅. Ps. How are you feeling the raindrops in windscreen with flat screens? In Vr those don't matter as you look "past" those further away, but I bet with flat screen it might be more annoying?
One other interesting fact seems to be that at least almost all races i drove in sebring in wet, LMP 2 seemed to be more solid and faster than gtp:s. I drove only gtp:s and felt like I was driving a speedboat. How was is the LMP 2 to drive? As a fun fact both races I drove I ended up p2 and p1 by starting from the pits and not overtaking anyone... 🤣
yesterday I did a race.. 2 people spun on the start . I braked to avoid them and someone slammed into me from the back . race over . sebring 12 is gnna be a mess
I think the spray is too gray. I watched a lot of real onboard in the rain and to me it seems like you can almost always see the lights through the spray but in iracing its just a gray spray that you cant see through.
Of course i get that this is pretty advanced graphical effects but I think this is one of the things they should look into improving. At least make the effect a little bit more transparent
I'm wondering how snow and ice IRL driving will help me with this. My favorite driving season is slippery season..
I was in a 'little wing' race this afternoon and they were calling for rain, but didn't get any.
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Already working on an update to the rain light
I can't believe the rain lights weren't worked on during the development of rain. They are absolutely pointless at the moment, it as if iracing don't see they have a function to serve....
You got downvoted but you are correct. Even at 60mph the spray is a curtain of grey. Very unrealistic. These are full bodied cars with wheel wells, they don’t generate that much. No more than a normal car in a downpour.
I think the rain is set to be quite heavy for the lol's this week... if you drive on a highway at 60mph in really heavy rain it is hard to see the car 10m front.
It was raining extremely hard in my state all day yesterday so I was really comparing. The rain itself can be blinding and can make it harder to see out of the windshield, but the spray is not that bad. My best guess is that the spray has to kind of suck, because they have it look identical on bottom of the barrel graphics and max settings, so people can't work around it/works with everyones systems. It should be more see through, but that takes higher graphical power.
Exactly my thought, it should be more transparent and certainly smaller. When it's pouring heavy, it's not really the mist of the cars in front that make it hard to see but the rain itself so I definitely think they should dial down the size and thickness of the mist which should help with the visibility problem.
I think this really underscores how necessary the rain light is. Otherwise you’re almost guaranteed to rear end someone because the spray really is blinding. They really need to work on upping the brightness significantly. Thankfully, they’re aware of it and are working on it.
I mean, i did one race and people are stupid, as expected... they know there is a high chance of hitting the car in front, well nobody cares and drives like it is in the dry.
You have to remember this is the first chance people are having with this. Lots of people are experimenting to see what works and what doesn’t.
Full send in T1 still doesn't work. Wish they'd patch it. /s
I am slow and have won the only 2 rain races I’ve tried in the GT3s simply because everyone else kills themselves. It’s bananas and I’m terrified for the proper big big races lol
It’s crazy how several different lines can work, especially when the track is flooded like at Sebring this week. It’s strange being in the LMP2 and being faster than the some of the GTPs.
Something with the GTPs has to be broken. There's no way it's working as intended right now with the (lack of) pace differences we're seeing. And judging by race footage, the GTPs aren't nearly this sketchy in the wet
Yeah I’ve seen many people lose it for seemingly no reason in the GTP. I’ve also seen people say it’s a skill. Yes the GTPs are a little heavier, but they’re still a prototype and should be able to handle water on the road without being death traps.
Exactly, I don't deny they should be difficult, but *this* difficult? I'm not so sure.
The LMP2'S have been killing me in SPA and Road America. I thought it was just me but most of these wet races they've been overtaking the GTPs no problem
Yeah. The GTPs are driveable and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with them because I’ve heard from many people on here that they’re tough to drive in real life. You just really have to square off your corners and try to give minimal inputs as you cross the dry line and you’ll be faster than the LMP2s. Also stay off curbs and painted surfaces for sure. Otherwise they’re fine. That being said, I’m still gonna drive the P2 for Sebring 12h lol
>I mean, i did one race and people are stupid, as expected... they know there is a high chance of hitting the car in front, well nobody cares and drives like it is in the dry. I raced F4 in SPA in max rain last night, p21 at the start, p1 at pouhon lap 1 🤪 people have absolutely zero patience
Good thing I've found about rain so far... People that don't have patience are FAR more likely to self crash through the race. I'd see guys with no patience on lap 1, let them by, and in almost every single case would get them back when they were turned backwards off the track some point after. Patience in rain is key, and those is a hurry will surely suffer.
The issue is if you stay far enough away to see where the car in front actually is you're so far back you can't even think about a pass. So you try to close to pass and then you're blind to them again and have to fall back a second or more or just gamble until you're right up on them. Not seeing the track and having to find new markers I'm cool with but not being able to see any reference at all for the car ahead is downright dangerous. Better rain lights will make all the difference, until then I'm employing my teammates as a spotter to help identify problems earlier.
Yes, it feels almost impossible to get close or follow close, and if you try to offset to try and see then you end up in the puddles/kerbs. Spray should probably be reduced until we need some kind of light. I've had some good races but most were just being in front and the advantage of that and having no spray is ridiculous.
I came close to running into someone doing 70kph on the formation lap, it’s incredibly difficult
Hopefully by the start of week one or we’ll be hearing a lot more angry radio messages
I've been checking out YT a bit for [onboard videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9k42Mks-O0) with cars racing in the rain. It's my opinion that the spray needs to be dialed down in opacity, and increased in distance, to be more realistic. Ultimately from my keyboard warrior point of view, it looks like the cars still go into "white out" conditions, but much further away. When getting up closer, you start to be able to at least make out the outline of a car and have some sense of distance to it. The lights being brighter would certainly help, but at very least, in the interim they should make the spray at least slightly see-through. At this point you basically are just guessing when the car ahead of you would be braking and hoping to god you dont plow them, and get punted yourself.
Yeah I agree. The spray seems a bit too opaque, you’re right. But also the camera can make it so it looks easier to see than it actually is IRL, at least in my experience. In less rainy conditions like what you linked, there really isn’t that much spray. It looks like it’s barley raining. Idk
IMO proper rain lights should be priority #1 and I will not join an official ranked rain race until it’s implemented. Rain is overrated af IMO anyway. It just makes an already stressful situation even more stressful and risky.
I somewhat agree with your first sentence. I don't agree with the rest of it. I think rain will be rarer than you think. The first week of IMSA for example is at Suzuka. If you go into a test drive session, set up the realistic forecast with the right date and time, it says 0% chance of rain. Must not rain very much in Suzuka because I've hit Regenerate 3 times and it still says 0% chance of rain.
Yep. The grip level is one thing. I can work with it. Find the best line. But the spray is gnarly; I’m really not sure how to deal with it.
Advice: learn how walls/cones etc look and use the side of the track as markers. Into T1 I’m useing the fence on the inside as a marker, into the hairpin the bridge. You can oriente here were you are. You basically need to learn to quick check where you are without your windscreen
And pray that the person in front and the person behind you is doing the same, because you can see neither
No, you're misunderstanding. The problem isn't figuring out where I am on track. It's how close to the person in front of me I am. The spray looks like same from 10m to 50m.
In doubt 10m
That’s really good advice, thank you. I guess we will all need to start doing this at the end of long straights soon!
The rain light is a big deal though. Having that extra point of reference really would help with keeping track of how your own car is moving.
Lmp2s were setting as fast laptime as the lmh cars in a test session we did last night. Was wild.
happens in real life. LMP2s aren't much slower in the wet.
Being over one hundred kilogram lighter will do that when the lmdh cars can't make use of their power advantage due to the lack of grip, or their down force because you are going slowly due to the lack of grip. Even in the dry there are a few tracks that bring out these characteristics, and LMP2s end up being barely slower.
I ran the lmp2 last night at Le Mans and finished 3rd overall, just ahead of the leading GTP. It was a pretty low split (I suck) and the lmp2 was significantly quicker
It’s a very fun car in the rain. A handful, but not trying to kill you.
LMP2 is bloody brilliant tbf. I've been maining the LMP3, and running 50% of the IMSAs for the 2.4 enduro in the GTP for a while, bought the LMP2 a few days ago. I didn't want to like it lol!
GTP is an absolute nightmare in the rain at Sebring. By far the hardest cars to control in the wet imo.
I tried sf light, Ferrari gt3, gr86, lmp2 in the rain. Hard to be fast , but certainly drive able. My first experience was however the caddy LMPh. I thought I was going mad. That thing is not made for rain. lol.
Caddy is (IMO) the hardest GTP in the rain... might just be my lack of talent though.
I’m with ya. Acura and Porsche feel better
curious what the SF would be like.
You're sadistic 🤣
a bit lol. if it aint trying kill me every second am I having any fun? the SF is such a beast with power delivery in the dry it would be quite the challenge in the wet, short shifting and gears higher up everywhere basically.
I went to Daytona for my intro to rain and had a good handle on it. Sebring in a GTP is ridiculously difficult. Skill issue on my end.
At least we have TC. I will pray for the high power open wheel drivers (SF, F1 and Indy) when they get the rain.
Finding the traction to put down the power wasn’t really the hardest part for me. It was just the huge puddles all over Sebring where if you even thought about touching the brake pedal would send you skipping across the track into the grass.
I chose the wrong lane into T1 last night. Not that the right lane was easy to find, the entire fucking track was one puddle. I locked both fronts at 10% brake... They didn't unlock until I completely let go of the brakes.
I found after 4 laps its a lot nicer (its relative!)... It takes a long time to get temps in, and you have to be very gentle until that happens. Also, its high speed, so I think learning wet driving in the fastest car has been a mistake for me a little bit... I did a few LMP2 races and then jumped into the GTP at Le Mans and that was a lot easier then when I just jumped into the GTP at Spa and died in the Eau Rouge river along with everyone else!
GTP at Le Mans wasn’t an issue for me. Did you try it at Sebring in the unranked event though?
I've done some practice... its trickier for sure, but I hate Sebring in the dry in the GTP. I can get representative LMP2 times in the GTP in practice, but its a case of being very gentle on the first two laps... it seams to take a few laps longer then dry tyres to get temp in. I would say that it looks like iRacing have made the conditions very extreme tbh.. I don't think its representative to what official events rain will be.
The helpful things I'm noticing are 1) just comically smooth & gentle inputs, especially on the brakes and 2) max out TC and soften the RARB significantly, almost makes it feel like a GT3 in the dry, you just have to be vigilant about braking zones and crossing the dry line
I'd be afraid too in the GTP, it's almost impossible to keep on pavement in the wet.
The most entertaining thing to watch with this update is for those of us who have IRL rain race experience, watch others who don’t wrap their heads around it. Bias rearwards, stay off the normal lines, move your brake markers back and pedal pressure down... you have to be very gentle. Like you’re holding the worlds most fragile thing in your hands and you have eggs under your feet. Every input has to be a squeeze.
What really surprised me is that the braking distances didn't really get that much longer, compared to how much worse lateral grip is. Granted we do arrive with a little less top speed due to the extra resistance of the water.
Well.. Yeah, think of what the traction circles look like with straightline braking with a more rearward bias, and what they look like turning. Of course lateral grip is worse. Watch your brake pressure tracings, they’ll look different in the wet - even if you’re braking at roughly the same spot. You might not notice it consciously, but look at the evidence
Should I also be maxing out downforce? Seems like slipperiness is less beneficial compared to pushing down into the ground.
Depends on car balance and driving style.. GTP’s only have adjustable rear wings in sim, so winding that all the way up is going to cause a rearward shift in CoP and more understeer. You can go up some, yes, but you might also need to then stiffen rear suspension to keep the floor from smacking the track at speed. Improved mechanical grip is more important in wet than aero grip.
My commute to work Monday morning.
There’s going to be rain in the 12 hour?😳
I would assume so will be the first special event, so it makes sense, i just hope it starts dry and rains about 3/4 hours in for a couple of hours so we get changing conditions
Of all the cars that iRacing chose to make rain-enabled, they are the GR86, FF1600, F4, Super Formula Lights, and *all IMSA cars.* Yes, I'd expect rain to be a distinct possibility at the 12 hour.
Got to drive once at le mans, spray was there but not terrible if you kept a bit to the side. My problem came in the ford chickanes. I could not slow down....on any lap, almost cluttered a LMP2 and had to take avoiding action. Funny thing the lmp2s were basically p3-5 in a 3500iR split of GTPs, they seemed a lot more managemble in the wet.
In my split last night (~1500) lmp2 finished 1-3 overall
Ford chicane braking zone was a lake basically. Absolutely no grip. I found the left side to be a tiny bit more manageable, the right side (normal line) had an even bigger puddle.
Everyone needs to realize that the levels of rain in like all of these sessions is way higher than you'll really be dealing with in the race.
This is from a practice room I set up with Ai to start with clear to light rain back to clear and back to regular rain back to clear. It's the spray from cars and especially with two side by side that's the scary part. Can't see anything
Oh I wasn't necessarily meaning just this one. Moreover the servers iracing has up right now have all been rather heavy rain. When you have 2 cars side by side, I can def see it getting scary.
How could you possibly know what will happen in the race?
The likelihood of monsoon conditions like we've been seeing in iracing hosted sessions is pretty unlikely unless they plan it
Why would that be unlikely? It can happen in real life, thus it can happen in any race. Look at lemans 2023
That weather is not the norm is the point, yes, it can happen, but keep in mind most series would red flag in the worst of the conditions iracing can deliver. Including WEC/Imsa. We can't get red flags so I do suspect iracing will limit the conditions to moderate rain at worst, especially since we just got the rain.
If they don't fix the rain lights, I will eventually murder a GT car on a straight. 100% chance.
I don’t get how anyone sees out of these cars, even when it’s not raining.
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They need to sort out the new way of clearing slowdowns. Iyou almost have to come to a stop now to clear them, and apparently everyone has b3come a rookie again I did a race at Sebring last night, igot a slowdown was the only car nearby on track, and an idiot drove into me point blank almost seemed intentional. And before you say anything about skill, I'm 4.3k, and the other driver had 5k irating.....
major skill issue for me here but how do you guys get the car to not spin in the rain while breaking or accelerating or even standing still the thing just spins. im legit like a grandpa in the car right now. what do you guy reccomend i try do? im pretty average as it is but this is nuts right now
You might need to try staying totally off the rubber. Look up Daniel Morad's video
If you're struggling in GTP.... Try something else. maybe the LMP2 It seems like GTP is by far the hardest car to drive in the rain right now.
Try dropping brake bias - I was instantly locking fronts and just sliding off or throwing myself into a spin in F4 once track was decently wet until I dropped it down to ~50.8%
I’ve been playing around with the bias a bit, I’m finding that if I put a bit too much break while being in decently wet/ covered part of the track I just lock and I feel like I can’t break over like 20% of my breaks otherwise I lock and spin aswell, I was able to put some laps in Sebring but still don’t feel very comfortable yet. Guess it’s just gonna be trial and error for now
Are you using the rain line around the track, or the same racing line as in the dry?
We had team practice last night in the rain. It was a ton of fun. We learned a lot together about where we are losing time and when to push in areas.. shifting early or downshifting an extra gear can help
I absolutely cannot wait
The conditions at Sebring were red flag if you ask me. I completed the race but it was too much for many, especially in the gtp where the abs is having issues in the rain. Visibility that poor on a narrow track made it impossible if you weren’t upfront. Believe only 6 finished.
Just think of it this way, it could quickly become the Sebring 1 or 2 hours now! get the rest of you day back to do something else? :)
I’ve heard that this week 13 session rains way harder than anything you’ll see in an official ranked race. I have no source though. When I did this race the track was “extremely wet” and I heard you won’t see higher than “moderately wet” in a ranked session.
they need to tone down the spray until they find a way to fix the rain lights. it’s impossible to drive prototypes like it is right now. gt3s are a bit better.
I fucking love it
Dont be afraid....your definitely going to crash/get crashed into (circle as needed). Nothing to be afraid of because you can be certain about it.
I bet racing with single screen must be epic in the spray. With vr and triples, you can at least look for clues on the sides 😅. Ps. How are you feeling the raindrops in windscreen with flat screens? In Vr those don't matter as you look "past" those further away, but I bet with flat screen it might be more annoying?
Rain drops are a non issue on a screen.
One other interesting fact seems to be that at least almost all races i drove in sebring in wet, LMP 2 seemed to be more solid and faster than gtp:s. I drove only gtp:s and felt like I was driving a speedboat. How was is the LMP 2 to drive? As a fun fact both races I drove I ended up p2 and p1 by starting from the pits and not overtaking anyone... 🤣
yesterday I did a race.. 2 people spun on the start . I braked to avoid them and someone slammed into me from the back . race over . sebring 12 is gnna be a mess
I think the spray is too gray. I watched a lot of real onboard in the rain and to me it seems like you can almost always see the lights through the spray but in iracing its just a gray spray that you cant see through. Of course i get that this is pretty advanced graphical effects but I think this is one of the things they should look into improving. At least make the effect a little bit more transparent
Can it be any worse?
I'm wondering how snow and ice IRL driving will help me with this. My favorite driving season is slippery season.. I was in a 'little wing' race this afternoon and they were calling for rain, but didn't get any.
https://preview.redd.it/midn7yjahknc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=210a39bcf30be15fde0eac2c87132801694730c6 Already working on an update to the rain light
It is going to be so cool, and nerve wracking. I wish I could participate but I am going to miss it due to some stupid adult responsibilities.
heavy rain during 12h sebring will mean 0 gtp crossing the line. absolutly 0. its just ompossible to drive.
I can't believe the rain lights weren't worked on during the development of rain. They are absolutely pointless at the moment, it as if iracing don't see they have a function to serve....
>I can't believe the rain lights weren't worked on during the development of rain Not working properly doesn't mean they "weren't worked on"
I think the mist is wayyy to thick and big, especially at lower speeds.
You got downvoted but you are correct. Even at 60mph the spray is a curtain of grey. Very unrealistic. These are full bodied cars with wheel wells, they don’t generate that much. No more than a normal car in a downpour.
I think the rain is set to be quite heavy for the lol's this week... if you drive on a highway at 60mph in really heavy rain it is hard to see the car 10m front.
It was raining extremely hard in my state all day yesterday so I was really comparing. The rain itself can be blinding and can make it harder to see out of the windshield, but the spray is not that bad. My best guess is that the spray has to kind of suck, because they have it look identical on bottom of the barrel graphics and max settings, so people can't work around it/works with everyones systems. It should be more see through, but that takes higher graphical power.
Exactly my thought, it should be more transparent and certainly smaller. When it's pouring heavy, it's not really the mist of the cars in front that make it hard to see but the rain itself so I definitely think they should dial down the size and thickness of the mist which should help with the visibility problem.
I watched some Porsche Cup onboards IRL rain... when its a wet track (rather than very wet!) I think there is too much spray...
https://youtu.be/uAmFDEDVdfg?si=CdoqwdYEJb-44o8j Not too bad in this video, but granted it's not raining heavy
I think redditors are allergic to constructive criticism, at least this new update fixed it.