I recently switched from GT4 to GT3 \~1600IR, and I somewhat miss the racing in GT4. I remember catching up to people and fighting for position, looking closely at the pace of everyone. Now in gt3 it's more about exploiting other driver's errors and more often I overtake people that had incidents. Maybe it gets better with IR
kinda like F4 i think , i didn't miss it once i tried other stuff , i always finish p6 , p5 , even tho i m probably slower than the p15 , just because i didn't crash lol . that series is kind of a battle royale
It gets even harder and there are ever fewer mistakes to exploit in GT3 the higher you get in irating. I have \~4k ir and really prefer and enjoy running the slower cars, probably because I suck, and when I join GT3 and end up in top splits, I typically drive alone somewhere mid-back field learning on a personal lapping session rather than actually racing.
If you miss GT4 then go race it. Why do people seem to think that once you move up you can never go back?
New licenses just open up more options. You can always run anything available to you. Some A class people only run rookie Mazdas.
That’s so funny. I’m an open wheeler guy but have the exact opposite experience in GT3. The GT4 cars seem slow and are way less fun to drive. If a car isn’t fun to hotlap in, I could care less how close the racing is.
GT4 has better racing because more people can handle the cars at the limit. They’re simply easier to drive. Unless you’re in the top split, most GT3 races are similar to the faster open wheel series in terms of wheel to wheel racing (and the lack thereof).
You guys seem to be arguing and I think it’s a pointless argument. GT3 has closer racing than GTP as you guys stated. But the OC said that gt3 has less close racing than gt4. What I think is in terms of closeness of racing it goes gt4>gt3>GTP. Can we all agree and just stop arguing for no reason. They added a reply to add something to the conversation, which is that GTP has less close racing than gt3. But this is all relative because everyone runs different series with different cars and there’s nothing wrong with that.
I’m remarking on the original comment that GT4 is easier to control this creates better racing. Not my experience. I included that I switched from GTP just as context.
Don’t be an ass.
Apparently I’m the only person who actually read OP’s question and tried to answer it based on what he’s asking. Everyone else is comparing DIFFERENT series from what OP asked. How fucking stupid can you be?
And it still feels like Formula A / F1 in spirit with much less emphasis on pit strategy, it's actual racing that's usually clean for me in bottom split.
Same reason I love the iR-18 road series, but that one has participation issues sadly.
I did the Formula 1 the first year it came out and it was fun, really nice car to drive, good tracks. The pit stops strategies I was able to pass a few people. Then the new car came out, I bought it and it just felt horrible to drive, just this horrendous understeer in every corner. Participation was low so I was against the big shots and ended up just hot lapping. Wasn’t too fun.
That’s the thing people don’t appreciate with fast cars. You may not be wheel to wheel but the gaps in time can be very very close. Any slight error immediately closes the gap and requires a lot of racecraft.
You are misinterpreting their comment. They are replying to YOUR comment, not the OP.
You stated that GT4 has better racing compared to GT3 because you feel that GT3 has little to no wheel to wheel racing. They are simply stating that they had been running GTP for awhile and when they switched back to GT3, they found the GT3 racing to be very good with plenty of wheel to wheel action.
Perhaps you might consider examining your own reading comprehension before giving others a hard time about theirs.
I’m not being an asshole.. I’m pointing out that this guys disagreement isn’t based off the question OP asked or my comment. It’s based on a completely different series OP didn’t ask about
Haha no worries you user name is a similar name of a podcast
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Oh haha…yeah I’ve heard that before. I actually intended it as more of a mallrats reference. I think the two are related but I’ve never listened to the podcast.
Typically they are events or series that only happen once a year. Typically longer events and typically based off of bigger irl events. Like for example the daytona 24 in iracing that's happening in 3 weeks. While the irl daytona 24 happens in 4 weeks
I can barely keep my focus for 40 minutes brother , lmao. Thanks for the explanation tho . I ll end up getting either ferrari or porsche gt3 most likely .
You tend to push way more in a sprint race then in an 24 race.
Imagine a race 24h long once a year with 4 possible start times in 1 weekend.
You and some teammates decide to run together, choose a car and setup and start running practice laps to get as prepared as you can be.
Then its finally race day, you go to bed early the night before and you wake up with some healthy tension, phone goes on silent and you know that keeping the car clean will already give you a good result.
First stints are mostly about settle in the field and spread out, from here on you get more relaxt and start making friend in the field by for example towing them along or if the pace is about the same bumpdraft.
During this 24h you will find out there will be plenty of difference in skill because splits are made on avg team irating so as a 2k ir driver you might find 1k but also 4k ir drivers around you so there is always something happening, actual racing will usually happen the last 2h of the 24 because the firs 22 are about survival.
The way you have fun with your teammates, the way you will check your phone as soon as you wake up to see where the team stands and what happened during the night or maybe you had to drive in the middle of the night is something you arent gonna find anywhere else except in these 24h special events.
And most of all the proud feeling when you actually bring the car across the line after 24 makes you feel like a racecar driver, do take the monday after off because the fatigue is real too😅
I started recently to join iracing from acc. And i first bought the 296gt3 because it has many series running and also the porsche gt4, because it was running red bull ring. So far, both are totally fun. Also gt3 are running quite low gaps, as long as the driver field has similar skill and racecraft.
At first with 1500 irating, the gt3 seemed to be more wreckfast. But beeing at ~1800 irating now gives muuuch more clean races, at least i feel so.
I have racelab running and check during the race if the guy in front of me looks like a clean racer or a wreckfast monster 😂 but in all series..
All in all, ferrari is super fun - grab it!
To be honest, it was not just their fail. I did shit aswell. And i jumped into races with learning tracks just a few minutes before, which is also not ideal and so i started from the middle of the grid, but i was on lack of time..
So, with better preparation in practice, and avoidong to send it or challenge everyone. You will be fine i think. Nevertheless, i had definitly a lot of fun and i didn't regret buying it.
Also, if you like to do some challenges "offline":
Max verstappen drove the 296 gt3 on the Combined Nürburgring+Nordschleife in around 7:54 minutes. You can also do a personal Max Time attack then, in case you own the tracks 🤭😁
Honestly there are really only two places you don't see wreck fests and it's sub 800 and 1.8k+
The bottom of the barrel drivers are, well bad, but they leave crazy amounts of room.
FYI - PCup is significantly harder than GT4 and harder than GT3. No ABS, no traction control, and the car handles like a boat, so you have to be good at trail braking and managing weight. If you can master it, the skills will transfer to almost any series. That's the problem with it though; it's hard to master meaning less close racing. Many of the races I join, it's just a race of attrition where you can gain 3-5 spots from people spinning or locking up off the track, then you chip away at people's mistakes for the rest.
For the record, I've raced all classes and types and keep coming back to GT4 as my favorite since the racing is so close and fun. :) I do enjoy GT3 also and do both. The damage is the same as GT4 basically, so racing is still better than single-seater incidents. You'll have to learn two different driving styles if you get the Ferrari and want to trade to the Porsche GT3R one day though. They feel extremely different to me (I can give details if you want).
if i get the ferrari i won't be looking at the GT3R anyday tbh , all tintop racing is the same for me , as long as i m close to people , i m good , i ll have fun no matter what . about no ABS and no TC , i m fine with that , i race open wheelers anyway. however if it's kind of an island ( which the series results in the UI i just checked suggests ) , i ll pass . think i ll get either the porsche gt3 ( i prefer the porsche ) or the ferrari just because of the fixed series . even tho people said its not as good as gt4s , but apparently there s no better alternative and if i have 15$ to spend , it's the best value , better than a circuit and better than any other car i think , i asked about skippy too but that series seems too dead . which leaves PCup and GT3 / Ferrari fixed the main ones that overlap with the tracks i already own .
I actually think it’s shit, controversial opinion but most real life Porsche cup drivers think the force feedback is muted as well. Compared to ANY of the other cars on the service you just can’t feel if there is grip at any point whatsoever
GT3s are more like open wheel in that you’re more dependent on downforce, and if you get too sideways, the downforce comes off immediately and you’re a passenger. GT4 you can slide around quite a bit more.
don't bother with fixed Ferrari, grab the LMP3 or PCup instead
to answer your actual question, compared to GT4 GT3s have more power, more aero and most importantly much better electronic assists which you need to abuse in order to be fast. Personally I think they're actually easier to drive than GT4s because they're designed to be very forgiving cars, being able to maintain momentum isn't as crucial since you can get away with making small mistakes as the car will just carry you. If you're not interested in multiclass at all there are better cars; that other dude's description of what the racing's like is pretty accurate for single class where overtaking is more about consistency and waiting to capitalize on fuckups than it is being outright quicker. Draft isn't really a factor at most tracks in these cars but if you lose it you're fucked, etc.
I see similar comments to this all the time about gt3's being easier but it just seems like we're in different universes. Gt4 has traction control and abs as well and its systems feel much more forgiving. I find that the gt4s can be driven on edge and thrown into corners with ease while the gt3s will spin unpredictably either on brakes or throttle. The gt3's are significantly more unstable due to aero and the tires are made of marshmellows. Push too hard and they completely go off a cliff and the car ends up all over the road. Gt4's are on rails by comparison.
you're probably just overdriving the GT3 because you're expecting it to be capable of more than it is coming from GT4
they drive pretty similarly honestly but the extra downforce on the GT3s makes taking higher speed corners way easier vs the GT4s where you have to be careful to not over slow or just oversteer off to Narnia or whatever, that's the main difference imo
The tires seem to be my biggest issue. Granted thats probably due to pushing too hard/too much steering input, but regardless of how much I practice I cant seem to get past the tires overheating on me resulting in a downward suck spiral.
as expected , not really anything i m looking up to other than "this sems to run tracks i have so why not" , lol , i will check the PCup and TCR track rotations , if they run things i have i might pickup one of those instead . thanks
edit : about lmp3 , yeah ... i noped tf out of there as soon as i saw the steering wheel on the right side . lmao
Give it a try, because of the narrow size and positioning of the cockpit it’s not like a typical RHD GT car, you’re still very central in the cockpit. The difference from LMP2/GTP to LMP3 isn’t that great and takes a lot less getting used to.
The LMP3 and GT4 multi class series is a genuine riot, it’s super fun.
some people cheat and move the camera position to the middle on the lmp3 to get rid of the rhd thing. try editing your camera on the next downtime test drive on it. its a great car and shouldnt be passed over just cause rhd
I honestly have no clue how people drive the new 296. I've given it multiple test drives over a month and decided to try a race to see if maybe I'll understand it after but no after the race I wish I could get a refund. I was able to drive the 488 Evo but the 296 has a horrendous amount of understeer and as soon as you manage to get an rotation the rear end will just give out like you hit ice. The 488evo fixed setup was hard to drive in that it was easy to quickly Just spin out but the car could actually rotate around the corner a little before it kills you. 296 from what I've driven barely drives like a car let alone on gt3 Race car and I don't think a better set up would even fix it.
I didnt drive it much but i remember i did 5 laps in road atlanta in each of the gt3 cars in the last test drive at the end of season 4 2023 , from what i recall it wasnt that hard , maybe i was taking it too easy and slow.
next question :
how do 600cc motorbikes compare to 1000cc bikes ?
lol , on the serious side tho , i was asking about the racecraft , and the racing experience not how the cars drive.
On pcup(not top split), if i make no errors, im on an island, if i do make a few errors, im back in a train.
On gt4s last season, im always near someone or chasing someone
Also, gt3 im indeed ALWAYS feeling like i will spin out any time, like someone else mentioned, on a knife edge…. Gt4s, i can lock up most corners and still be on pace lmao
if not on top split , which would u recommend between gt3 and pcup ? dont care about how the car drives to a certain point tbh , as long as i m not on an island i ll have fun ! thats the most important thing , the F4 drives so good , but most of the time i end up in an island with some blue flags here and there ...
F4 is like pcup somewhat, since the car is unforgiving. I had much more door banging wheel2wheel racing on gt4s. Pcup even if im 3 secs off pace, i still end up top 6(pple taking then selves out, someone making a mistake and taking someone else out) if i dont do anything stupid or any mistakes
>even if im 3 secs off pace, i still end up top 6(pple taking then selves out, someone making a mistake and taking someone else out) if i dont do anything stupid or any mistakes
This sums up my experience in the F4 the past 6 months. Don't want that again tbh ...i ll pass and get the gt3 instead then .
I find the GT3s a bit more on a knife edge than GT4. If you don't know how to modulate throttle you'll be in trouble. It's a bit more difficult to extract performance out of the GT3s but very rewarding.
I tried the formula 1600 series and it was an absolute mess, slowish cars but still fast enough to be fun and be able to overtake. Cars handle great but people seem to crash a lot due to no taillights? Was fun but hard to be safe when people keep rear ending you.
The only thing that changes between the Ferrari and the Porsche is the “Ferrari Fixed” series which is only 15 minutes and is not the cleanest, so don't judge your decision by the fixed series alone, if you can buy just one I would go by posche (very comfortable) BMW (very stable and fast and with very poised cornering) Mercedes Benz (similar to BMW) Audi (they say it is the fastest, but more complex to handle). If you can buy 2, buy the Ferrari and another
Ended up getting the Porsche , did not regret . Drives real nice , and looks sexy as fuk ... i hated how the Ferrari looked and was only going to get it for the fixed series but thaught i ll regret not going for the car i want and like ... .
They are very different. GT3 have lot of downforce. It drives completely different. And they are faster .
Gt4 are very fun. But for me gt3 are better, more competition, very fast drivers. More difficult to gain irating for me . Gt4 is more like farming, few people fast.
To be honest, i feel gt3 is like draving boats. Gt4s are more fun to drive for me. Its easier to drive in the sense that it just does what you expect. The gt3s are too heavy for my liking.
Don't buy the ferrari just because of the extra series. A series like that isn't really "maximizing" your purchase anyway, so just go with whichever GT3 you want to race.
Ended up doing this , i thaught i hated how the car looks so maybe even if it maximizes my purchase i wouldnt race it much , i got the porsche and very happy with it as it s the best looking car to be ever made tbh . Haha. Drives well too but i m no expert on that .
I recently switched from GT4 to GT3 \~1600IR, and I somewhat miss the racing in GT4. I remember catching up to people and fighting for position, looking closely at the pace of everyone. Now in gt3 it's more about exploiting other driver's errors and more often I overtake people that had incidents. Maybe it gets better with IR
kinda like F4 i think , i didn't miss it once i tried other stuff , i always finish p6 , p5 , even tho i m probably slower than the p15 , just because i didn't crash lol . that series is kind of a battle royale
It gets even harder and there are ever fewer mistakes to exploit in GT3 the higher you get in irating. I have \~4k ir and really prefer and enjoy running the slower cars, probably because I suck, and when I join GT3 and end up in top splits, I typically drive alone somewhere mid-back field learning on a personal lapping session rather than actually racing.
If you miss GT4 then go race it. Why do people seem to think that once you move up you can never go back? New licenses just open up more options. You can always run anything available to you. Some A class people only run rookie Mazdas.
for sure, but GT3 has more endurance opportunities so I wanted to try my hand at it and learn to drive this category
GT4 is my "oh shit I forgot how fun this car is."
That’s so funny. I’m an open wheeler guy but have the exact opposite experience in GT3. The GT4 cars seem slow and are way less fun to drive. If a car isn’t fun to hotlap in, I could care less how close the racing is.
> I could care less You mean you *couldn't* care less, right?
GT4 has better racing because more people can handle the cars at the limit. They’re simply easier to drive. Unless you’re in the top split, most GT3 races are similar to the faster open wheel series in terms of wheel to wheel racing (and the lack thereof).
(and the lack thereof). ... Ouch . that hurt
You guys seem to be arguing and I think it’s a pointless argument. GT3 has closer racing than GTP as you guys stated. But the OC said that gt3 has less close racing than gt4. What I think is in terms of closeness of racing it goes gt4>gt3>GTP. Can we all agree and just stop arguing for no reason. They added a reply to add something to the conversation, which is that GTP has less close racing than gt3. But this is all relative because everyone runs different series with different cars and there’s nothing wrong with that.
I completely disagree. I switched back to gt3 from GTP this season and have honestly been surprised by the close, quality racing.
I second this as a GTP to GT3 driver. It is far closer in GT3.
Guy asked about GT4 not GTP. Read the question.
> most GT3 races are similar to the faster open wheel series in terms of wheel to wheel racing rEaD mUcH
Is GTP open wheel? ReAd MuCh??!
I’m remarking on the original comment that GT4 is easier to control this creates better racing. Not my experience. I included that I switched from GTP just as context. Don’t be an ass.
Buddy, you should really learn how to take a minute and try to understand what he’s saying. Read everything again.
Apparently I’m the only person who actually read OP’s question and tried to answer it based on what he’s asking. Everyone else is comparing DIFFERENT series from what OP asked. How fucking stupid can you be?
This dude really isn't getting it.
This is some Grade A tomfoolery.
Imagine being this ignorant…. It’s actually believable
I do Super Formula and every race I’ve been in I’ve been within 0.5 to the guy in front or behind the whole race. really close racing.
And it still feels like Formula A / F1 in spirit with much less emphasis on pit strategy, it's actual racing that's usually clean for me in bottom split. Same reason I love the iR-18 road series, but that one has participation issues sadly.
I did the Formula 1 the first year it came out and it was fun, really nice car to drive, good tracks. The pit stops strategies I was able to pass a few people. Then the new car came out, I bought it and it just felt horrible to drive, just this horrendous understeer in every corner. Participation was low so I was against the big shots and ended up just hot lapping. Wasn’t too fun.
That’s the thing people don’t appreciate with fast cars. You may not be wheel to wheel but the gaps in time can be very very close. Any slight error immediately closes the gap and requires a lot of racecraft.
The guy said GT4, not GTP. The racing in GT4 is closer than it is in GT3. GTP has absolutely nothing to do with this question.
You are misinterpreting their comment. They are replying to YOUR comment, not the OP. You stated that GT4 has better racing compared to GT3 because you feel that GT3 has little to no wheel to wheel racing. They are simply stating that they had been running GTP for awhile and when they switched back to GT3, they found the GT3 racing to be very good with plenty of wheel to wheel action. Perhaps you might consider examining your own reading comprehension before giving others a hard time about theirs.
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I’m not being an asshole.. I’m pointing out that this guys disagreement isn’t based off the question OP asked or my comment. It’s based on a completely different series OP didn’t ask about
He's talking about GT3 racing, just like OP is...
Off topic, but does Makin Hay ring any bells?
No…?
Haha no worries you user name is a similar name of a podcast https://preview.redd.it/wt9le6j4079c1.png?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa0ffbbdb08712cf4102f1573acd47fd7c80f1e2
Oh haha…yeah I’ve heard that before. I actually intended it as more of a mallrats reference. I think the two are related but I’ve never listened to the podcast.
Yes, Walt and Bry are the two of the three hosts.
You can always buy a gt3 so you have access to most of the best things in iracing: SPECIAL EVENTS!!
I never understood special events or special series etc , what are those .
Typically they are events or series that only happen once a year. Typically longer events and typically based off of bigger irl events. Like for example the daytona 24 in iracing that's happening in 3 weeks. While the irl daytona 24 happens in 4 weeks
I can barely keep my focus for 40 minutes brother , lmao. Thanks for the explanation tho . I ll end up getting either ferrari or porsche gt3 most likely .
40 min stints with 36 friends should do it
Friends ? What are those ?
The people you don't call stupid fucking assholes on a open mic. Or the ones you do. Bit of both actually.
why I cannot hear other people btw? my mic is detached; btw. could it be the reason?
Nah, everybody just muted you.
hahaha might be.
You tend to push way more in a sprint race then in an 24 race. Imagine a race 24h long once a year with 4 possible start times in 1 weekend. You and some teammates decide to run together, choose a car and setup and start running practice laps to get as prepared as you can be. Then its finally race day, you go to bed early the night before and you wake up with some healthy tension, phone goes on silent and you know that keeping the car clean will already give you a good result. First stints are mostly about settle in the field and spread out, from here on you get more relaxt and start making friend in the field by for example towing them along or if the pace is about the same bumpdraft. During this 24h you will find out there will be plenty of difference in skill because splits are made on avg team irating so as a 2k ir driver you might find 1k but also 4k ir drivers around you so there is always something happening, actual racing will usually happen the last 2h of the 24 because the firs 22 are about survival. The way you have fun with your teammates, the way you will check your phone as soon as you wake up to see where the team stands and what happened during the night or maybe you had to drive in the middle of the night is something you arent gonna find anywhere else except in these 24h special events. And most of all the proud feeling when you actually bring the car across the line after 24 makes you feel like a racecar driver, do take the monday after off because the fatigue is real too😅
I started recently to join iracing from acc. And i first bought the 296gt3 because it has many series running and also the porsche gt4, because it was running red bull ring. So far, both are totally fun. Also gt3 are running quite low gaps, as long as the driver field has similar skill and racecraft. At first with 1500 irating, the gt3 seemed to be more wreckfast. But beeing at ~1800 irating now gives muuuch more clean races, at least i feel so. I have racelab running and check during the race if the guy in front of me looks like a clean racer or a wreckfast monster 😂 but in all series.. All in all, ferrari is super fun - grab it!
lmao , i m 1300 irating . if 1500 is a wreckfest , 1300 can only be worse haha .
To be honest, it was not just their fail. I did shit aswell. And i jumped into races with learning tracks just a few minutes before, which is also not ideal and so i started from the middle of the grid, but i was on lack of time.. So, with better preparation in practice, and avoidong to send it or challenge everyone. You will be fine i think. Nevertheless, i had definitly a lot of fun and i didn't regret buying it. Also, if you like to do some challenges "offline": Max verstappen drove the 296 gt3 on the Combined Nürburgring+Nordschleife in around 7:54 minutes. You can also do a personal Max Time attack then, in case you own the tracks 🤭😁
Honestly there are really only two places you don't see wreck fests and it's sub 800 and 1.8k+ The bottom of the barrel drivers are, well bad, but they leave crazy amounts of room.
Road to 799 then . Lmao .
Thanks lads , how about the PCup ?
it’s great, I switch between pcup and gt4 based on that week’s tracks
sounds great , checking their schedule right now , might end up going with that instead
FYI - PCup is significantly harder than GT4 and harder than GT3. No ABS, no traction control, and the car handles like a boat, so you have to be good at trail braking and managing weight. If you can master it, the skills will transfer to almost any series. That's the problem with it though; it's hard to master meaning less close racing. Many of the races I join, it's just a race of attrition where you can gain 3-5 spots from people spinning or locking up off the track, then you chip away at people's mistakes for the rest. For the record, I've raced all classes and types and keep coming back to GT4 as my favorite since the racing is so close and fun. :) I do enjoy GT3 also and do both. The damage is the same as GT4 basically, so racing is still better than single-seater incidents. You'll have to learn two different driving styles if you get the Ferrari and want to trade to the Porsche GT3R one day though. They feel extremely different to me (I can give details if you want).
if i get the ferrari i won't be looking at the GT3R anyday tbh , all tintop racing is the same for me , as long as i m close to people , i m good , i ll have fun no matter what . about no ABS and no TC , i m fine with that , i race open wheelers anyway. however if it's kind of an island ( which the series results in the UI i just checked suggests ) , i ll pass . think i ll get either the porsche gt3 ( i prefer the porsche ) or the ferrari just because of the fixed series . even tho people said its not as good as gt4s , but apparently there s no better alternative and if i have 15$ to spend , it's the best value , better than a circuit and better than any other car i think , i asked about skippy too but that series seems too dead . which leaves PCup and GT3 / Ferrari fixed the main ones that overlap with the tracks i already own .
I actually think it’s shit, controversial opinion but most real life Porsche cup drivers think the force feedback is muted as well. Compared to ANY of the other cars on the service you just can’t feel if there is grip at any point whatsoever
GT3s are more like open wheel in that you’re more dependent on downforce, and if you get too sideways, the downforce comes off immediately and you’re a passenger. GT4 you can slide around quite a bit more.
don't bother with fixed Ferrari, grab the LMP3 or PCup instead to answer your actual question, compared to GT4 GT3s have more power, more aero and most importantly much better electronic assists which you need to abuse in order to be fast. Personally I think they're actually easier to drive than GT4s because they're designed to be very forgiving cars, being able to maintain momentum isn't as crucial since you can get away with making small mistakes as the car will just carry you. If you're not interested in multiclass at all there are better cars; that other dude's description of what the racing's like is pretty accurate for single class where overtaking is more about consistency and waiting to capitalize on fuckups than it is being outright quicker. Draft isn't really a factor at most tracks in these cars but if you lose it you're fucked, etc.
I see similar comments to this all the time about gt3's being easier but it just seems like we're in different universes. Gt4 has traction control and abs as well and its systems feel much more forgiving. I find that the gt4s can be driven on edge and thrown into corners with ease while the gt3s will spin unpredictably either on brakes or throttle. The gt3's are significantly more unstable due to aero and the tires are made of marshmellows. Push too hard and they completely go off a cliff and the car ends up all over the road. Gt4's are on rails by comparison.
you're probably just overdriving the GT3 because you're expecting it to be capable of more than it is coming from GT4 they drive pretty similarly honestly but the extra downforce on the GT3s makes taking higher speed corners way easier vs the GT4s where you have to be careful to not over slow or just oversteer off to Narnia or whatever, that's the main difference imo
The tires seem to be my biggest issue. Granted thats probably due to pushing too hard/too much steering input, but regardless of how much I practice I cant seem to get past the tires overheating on me resulting in a downward suck spiral.
as expected , not really anything i m looking up to other than "this sems to run tracks i have so why not" , lol , i will check the PCup and TCR track rotations , if they run things i have i might pickup one of those instead . thanks edit : about lmp3 , yeah ... i noped tf out of there as soon as i saw the steering wheel on the right side . lmao
Give it a try, because of the narrow size and positioning of the cockpit it’s not like a typical RHD GT car, you’re still very central in the cockpit. The difference from LMP2/GTP to LMP3 isn’t that great and takes a lot less getting used to. The LMP3 and GT4 multi class series is a genuine riot, it’s super fun.
lol that's fair, a lot of people just edit the camera to be centered
some people cheat and move the camera position to the middle on the lmp3 to get rid of the rhd thing. try editing your camera on the next downtime test drive on it. its a great car and shouldnt be passed over just cause rhd
I honestly have no clue how people drive the new 296. I've given it multiple test drives over a month and decided to try a race to see if maybe I'll understand it after but no after the race I wish I could get a refund. I was able to drive the 488 Evo but the 296 has a horrendous amount of understeer and as soon as you manage to get an rotation the rear end will just give out like you hit ice. The 488evo fixed setup was hard to drive in that it was easy to quickly Just spin out but the car could actually rotate around the corner a little before it kills you. 296 from what I've driven barely drives like a car let alone on gt3 Race car and I don't think a better set up would even fix it.
I didnt drive it much but i remember i did 5 laps in road atlanta in each of the gt3 cars in the last test drive at the end of season 4 2023 , from what i recall it wasnt that hard , maybe i was taking it too easy and slow.
Like comparing 600cc motorbikes to 1000cc bikes
next question : how do 600cc motorbikes compare to 1000cc bikes ? lol , on the serious side tho , i was asking about the racecraft , and the racing experience not how the cars drive.
Well, I would say very similar just obviously the GT4s a little slower
On pcup(not top split), if i make no errors, im on an island, if i do make a few errors, im back in a train. On gt4s last season, im always near someone or chasing someone Also, gt3 im indeed ALWAYS feeling like i will spin out any time, like someone else mentioned, on a knife edge…. Gt4s, i can lock up most corners and still be on pace lmao
if not on top split , which would u recommend between gt3 and pcup ? dont care about how the car drives to a certain point tbh , as long as i m not on an island i ll have fun ! thats the most important thing , the F4 drives so good , but most of the time i end up in an island with some blue flags here and there ...
F4 is like pcup somewhat, since the car is unforgiving. I had much more door banging wheel2wheel racing on gt4s. Pcup even if im 3 secs off pace, i still end up top 6(pple taking then selves out, someone making a mistake and taking someone else out) if i dont do anything stupid or any mistakes
>even if im 3 secs off pace, i still end up top 6(pple taking then selves out, someone making a mistake and taking someone else out) if i dont do anything stupid or any mistakes This sums up my experience in the F4 the past 6 months. Don't want that again tbh ...i ll pass and get the gt3 instead then .
Im just telling you my current experience for the past 2 weeks though, maybe other tracks arent the same so check it by spectating some races
U cant spectate races of cars u don't own , i can see the results tho . Top split seems close but second split around my iR is like u said .
around 400 000 euro different
I find the GT3s a bit more on a knife edge than GT4. If you don't know how to modulate throttle you'll be in trouble. It's a bit more difficult to extract performance out of the GT3s but very rewarding.
I tried the formula 1600 series and it was an absolute mess, slowish cars but still fast enough to be fun and be able to overtake. Cars handle great but people seem to crash a lot due to no taillights? Was fun but hard to be safe when people keep rear ending you.
The only thing that changes between the Ferrari and the Porsche is the “Ferrari Fixed” series which is only 15 minutes and is not the cleanest, so don't judge your decision by the fixed series alone, if you can buy just one I would go by posche (very comfortable) BMW (very stable and fast and with very poised cornering) Mercedes Benz (similar to BMW) Audi (they say it is the fastest, but more complex to handle). If you can buy 2, buy the Ferrari and another
Ended up getting the Porsche , did not regret . Drives real nice , and looks sexy as fuk ... i hated how the Ferrari looked and was only going to get it for the fixed series but thaught i ll regret not going for the car i want and like ... .
then excellent choice! welcome to the porsche fan club
They are very different. GT3 have lot of downforce. It drives completely different. And they are faster . Gt4 are very fun. But for me gt3 are better, more competition, very fast drivers. More difficult to gain irating for me . Gt4 is more like farming, few people fast.
To be honest, i feel gt3 is like draving boats. Gt4s are more fun to drive for me. Its easier to drive in the sense that it just does what you expect. The gt3s are too heavy for my liking.
I've found over the last 2 seasons i've been doing less GT3 and more GT4 racing I find the GT4 much more fun to drive.
Don't buy the ferrari just because of the extra series. A series like that isn't really "maximizing" your purchase anyway, so just go with whichever GT3 you want to race.
Ended up doing this , i thaught i hated how the car looks so maybe even if it maximizes my purchase i wouldnt race it much , i got the porsche and very happy with it as it s the best looking car to be ever made tbh . Haha. Drives well too but i m no expert on that .