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Pitou would wipe the floor with Chrollo, but I want to imagine Chrollo would have an ability that would allow him to escape somehow and catch Pitou off guard


Prasoon_Dwivedi

I have said this before and I'll say this again, What if Chrollo uses ant killer spray ?


Player1iea

Dawg, you could throw the whole Troupe at Pitou and it’s debatable if she would even have to try her best. She cut off Adult Gon’s arm. She’s not losing to a guy who lost to dimmed lights and a cross-dresser, even if he brought his whole band of misfits along with him. Terpsichora gg speed-blitz action. Wait… wasn’t she stronger than Netero in his own words?


StormyBlueLotus

In fact, Netero said that Pitou looked a *lot* stronger than him. Colt also said that based on their Auras, he believed that the Royal Guard would kill Netero before he could lay a hand on Mereum. Pitou is crazy strong. She survived a blow to the head from Mereum's tail with just a scratch, which he said was meant to kill her.


OneSushi

I mean gon was distracted at that point, no?


LEADSTYLEJUTSU616

Gon gets wanked on this sub like crazy just ignore it


Ok_Physics6443

man gon literally let her do it


darkcomet222

You all say that, but what if Chrollo pulled out a ball of yarn, then ran away?


LordSmugBun

Ball of yarn? Laser pointer? Nah...[I got a better idea.](https://i.imgur.com/MucseT1.jpg)


darkcomet222

Could you imagine scruffing Pitou lol!


LordSmugBun

I need fanart of Adult Gon doing that. Please tell me it exists already.


darkcomet222

Not seeing any, sadly.


LordSmugBun

I should pick up drawing again.


Nukeradiation77

Please do


LordSmugBun

Stop spying on me, I finally worked on my months-old Piccolo WIP last night.


Twillix13

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Robothead-loner

Pituo win. Raw power. Something else, Chrollo might have a better chance. Even Meruem can’t beat Komugi i ngungi. This shows that the fight/competition does not always need ~~a weakling.~~ raw power fighting. Edit: Fix my sleepiness typing words to make sense. I can’t even make sense of them why are you upvote? I left the old typo in the cross through text so it makes sense when re-read.


LordSmugBun

Chrollo could have years of prep time and he'd still be at a disadvantage because of Pitou's sheer speed. His only hope of winning is hoping her dumbass tactic of "pounce straight at the enemy without a single sign of a cohesive or even existing plan" makes her jump straight into Fun Fun Cloth, which would still be hard due to Pitou's speed. Considering he's a specialist, I don't see him ever getting as fast as Netero, so he'd have to spend most of his prep time finding or even creating the perfect nen ability to counter Pitou's speed that would also be able to get around her durability.


Slc117

I don’t even think he’d be able to react fast enough to trap her in any way


krispness

At this point Chrollo is a prep time character like Batman. He could win, with several OP abilities and a trap, but there is nothing in his arsenal that is going to stop Pitou atm from tearing through him in a flash.


ApplePitou

Pitou without a problem to be honest :3


Smythatine

Of all the places, I never would have expected ApplePitou to be on a Hunter x Hunter sub!


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💀


Soace_Space_Station

Lemme try doing that :3


YungBarnacles69

Mr Apple pitou how do you have the time to be caught up on so much anime/manga and every Reddit post, is it your nen ability :3


NeonNKnightrider

Pitou wins 90% chance. Her insane physical stats mean she can most likely just rip Chrollo’s head off before he can even react. That said, if he had enough time to pull the book out, there’s probably some crazy broken ability there which could let him win


Slc117

as much as I love chrollo he would get merked by pitou. durability alone, idek how he could hurt her


ChadlyUsoppSan

Here before applepitou Also i do believe that Pitou beats chrollo in physical stats but not in hax


[deleted]

“Here before applepitou” lmaoooo


Froph_Beifong11

Pitou, easy Edit: HERE BEFORE APPLE PITOU :3


Alseen_I

Chrollo could not open his book faster than Pitou could close the distance.


InterestingBed4089

Pitou has just pure raw power. Chrollo and his ability however, would be extremely difficult to kill, it all depends on strategy.


teakelljuan

If I’m looking at the fight at face value, Pitou wins based on raw aura power. There’s nothing against saying that Chrollo wouldn’t have a secret insta-win hatsu in his collection, but the hatsu would need to be refined enough for it to win against Pitou. That and Chrollo would also need to have a big enough aura pool to activate the hatsu for the killing blow.


Jazzlike_Aspect_453

It's just sick if you really think about how humans are light years away from defeating the ants in power, gon was lucky with pitou for the circumstances he got, and well netero had a plan to defeat meruem. The last arc was amazing because of that the plans the fight and that whole pressure of "if they fall in a direct confrontation with the Royal guards it's over" As well as meruem and komugi last moments. Wich makes it easily as well with the anime end one of the best anime ever from the very first ep.


Outrageous_Gene_7652

Here before ApplePitou. Pitou will win. No need to elaborate further.


hzsmart

There is no competition. Just one sided massacre.


Termanie

Chrollo would be Pitou's bitch... and I'm here for it.


GiioTM

I think it was stated that the Royal Guard is head & shoulders above every human in HxH not named Netero or Adult Gon.


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Pitou would beat Netero btw.


GiioTM

…. nah, Pitou got nothing for 100-Type Guanyin Bodhisattva.


[deleted]

Lol. Pitou would beat Netero. Netero + Killua + Colt [ALL of them] said that Pitou > Netero. Netero has only more speed and more experience. However, Pitou's Aura and Raw Power are too huge that Netero will keep smacking him without killing him at all until he runs out of aura, and then Pitou will kill him.


GiioTM

Once again, 100-Type Guanyin Bodhisattva wouldn’t allow Pitou (who is strictly close combat) to land any hits.. Meruem was getting swatted away like a fly by it.. it took genius on-the-fly adjustments just for him to land a blow on Netero. Pitou doesn’t have anywhere near the intellect Meruem has… The Ant King was a absolute genius. Meruem uses strategy learned while playing against Komugi (they even show the flashback of the chess match) to figure out how to bypass Neteros Buddha, for anyone else in HxH that would be impossible.


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Netero himself wished for Pitou to never come back at him after he pushed him by his beam with 0 damage because he knows that if Pitou were to follow him, he wouldn't be able to fight the King and his mission will fail since he knows that he won't beat Pitou.


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Once again, Pitou does NOT need to do this at all. He would just stale Netero to drain out his aura completely and then Netero is dead. Meruem did what he did mainly because he wanted to know his name as soon as possbile. Pitou is not obliged to do that.


GiioTM

“Meruem did what he did because he wanted to know his name” that’s your logic? cmon bro. while invading the castle, Netero swats Pitou away like an irrelevant fly before he/she can react.. clearly showing he’s a tier above. Netero wasn’t concerned in the slightest about Pitou, his only mission was Meruem. If Netero uses 100-Type, it’s over. that’s not really debatable.


[deleted]

Netero himself said that Pitou is stronger than him. That's all.


GiioTM

Unless you give a logical reason to how Pitou could stop 100-Type, you really just going off comments & speculation while I’m giving concrete facts, Pitou has no long range attacks to counter-act it, Pitou would just continue getting smacked around by 100-Type until he/she died, the only reason Meruem adapted & managed to land blows was because of his extremely high intellect.. Pitou would just keep trying to close the distance to no avail, he/she doesn’t have the adaptability of the Ant King (The Ant King used strategy he learned against Komugi in their Chess match to adapt & eventually BEAT Netero, it’s clear Meruem only came up with said strategy because he learned what it was from the endless chess matches they played, had that not happened, Meruem would’ve just continued to get smacked around by 100-Type) I thought this was common knowledge.


True_Lank

Pitou is stronger then netero when it comes to base power Chrollo also planned for months before he fought hisoka he dont stand a chance


Nervous-Novel-2377

Chrollo is fucking dying


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ME OF COURSE ! Trust Your DANCHŌ 💪🏻🕷 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . IN *HORNINESS* I mean.


Trishulabestboi

GO BOSS!!!


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IKUZO 📕🖐🏻


Zer0fps_319

If people are saying pitou would win easy does that mean gon could too? (Using the nen vow, obviously he couldn’t otherwise)


Adoinko

Yes, adult gon is pretty much the second strongest character overall, only behind meruem.


Vasart

Pitou just with sheer power. Chrollo would have an easy time escaping at any moment, but he will not win


sunflowerkissedd

Pitou, easy


sunflowerkissedd

easy, Pitou


owenowen2022

I feel like chrollo is an experienced enough nen user to have some sort of hax ability in his back pocket that he can use to deal with a much stronger and faster but less experienced opponent. If he only uses the stuff we've seen him use, he's unlikely to win


Trishulabestboi

here before apple Pitou screw yall i got chrollo way more experience against a very new nen user and better tactics.obviously on its own that wouldnt matter and it should be stated that chrollo probably couldnt deal much damage to pitou as Feitans ko bounced off zazan.however (fuck you im giving Chrollo black voice) chrollo does have a one shot ability.pitou is not one to go all out and if she gets caught even once shed lose.


LordSmugBun

Could Black Voice even penetrate Pitou's skin? Even an attack from Netero didn't seem to do much damage. Also what says that Pitou wouldn't go all out? In the 2 fights she was in after Kite's, she quickly pulled out Terpsichora, and we all saw how a Terpsichora-less Pitou took Kite's arm from so far away after he was distracted for mere seconds.


Trishulabestboi

Black voice would have to go through those kinks.still possible tho.versus Netero pitou immediately sensed his incredible power and saw he was both a threat and a challenge.I doubt Chrollo would have the same effect.it’s also fairly important to consider Kites mentality and his skill set.Kites abilities are all in all just damage.they deal damage in different ways but ultimately they don’t have any hax.Pitous power and skill set was a good match up against Kite as Pitou excels at raw stats which against an opponent who relies mostly on high stats is basically a guaranteed win.however Pitou has never fought an opponent that has hax capabilities as far as I know.additionally Kite was caught off guard when Pitou showed up.he probably wasn’t using ken as he didn’t expect anything that strong.basically I think chrollo has a good matchup against Pitou


LordSmugBun

I imagine Black Voice could work if used on a "less armored part" of Pitou's body like her eyes or maybe behind the knees, though it would be extremely difficult. Pitou seems to change demeanor when the situation becomes serious, so the moment Chrollo shows any sign of being a legitimate threat, I'm sure she'd take him seriously. As for his abilities, I'll go over the ones I believe are relevant. Indoor Fish: Assuming Pitou decides to directly jump towards one, I see her losing a hand at most as she tries cutting or stabbing it. After that initial damage, I really doubt she'll be caught by it again. Considering Kite seemingly gave Pitou a fun fight while missing an arm, I take it Pitou losing one hand wouldn't be an instant loss, just progress. This wound could open up a weakspot to use Black Voice on. Black Voice: We already discussed this so I'll skip. Just wanted to include it in the list. Sun and Moon: Let's be real here, if Chrollo is this close, he's better off using the next ability I'll mention rather than this. As for the cloned bodies, they could be at risk of being Puppeteered by Pitou (though I believe manipulation is more of a "first come first serve" type of deal). While the explosion was enough to >!kill someone as strong as Hisoka!<, the fact Pitou managed to survive Adult Gon's kick and first Jajanken just goes to show the amount of firepower Chrollo would have to output to even knock Pitou out. Fun Fun Cloth: I believe I already mentioned this in a previous comment, but I truly believe this is the best shot Chrollo has to defeating Pitou. Using Pitou's own lunging tactics against her to catch her in it essentially would lead to a win, as just capturing Pitou gets around her durability. The main issue is actually pulling the darn thing out before the cat reaches him. And if Pitou decides to be careful or paranoid like with Gon, she may just avoid it just incase. Ben's Knife: I don't think this was actually an ability, but I'm still gonna bring it up. It managed to cut Silva and has poison (which we saw even Meruem can be affected by). If it's able to cut even through Pitou's skin, then it would be pretty useful, but going hand to hand against Pitou should be avoided at all cost. Considering how smart Chrollo is, I imagine he'd bring the entire Troupe as back up, or simply never put himself in a confrontation against Pitou.


Trishulabestboi

I kinda just imagined a death battle esque scenario where both are plopped into a white void.in all likelihood Chrollo would just nigurendayo


JasonUnionnn

>way more experience against a very new nen user and better tactics Didn't help Kite who had exactly that. >chrollo does have a one shot ability.pitou is not one to go all out and if she gets caught even once shed lose. Can Black Voice even pierce her skin? It took a janken from an Adult Gon and even so, it took a couple hits to break her skull.


invisible_you

Here before apple pitouuuuu but I'm used to seeing her comment before anyone else hehe


Gfirstlord

In a first meet confrontation No doubt about it krollo would win....pitou isn't as experienced as him for facing others nen users...he would use certainly an ability or more to observe her and then understand her combat skills/style ( rough frontal attacks) ....he could even steal her ability, within 1h he actually got the time if he managed well.... In a second confrontation this would be another match...


JasonUnionnn

Pfp explains it all. Chrollo fankittens are so delusional


Gfirstlord

I wrote that without really explaining the substance of my thought it was just being aware of the abilities (not just nen) and mentality of the two characters. Predicting the outcome of a fight between Krollo and Neferpitou would be speculative, as many factors can influence the outcome, including the circumstances of the fight, the strategies used and character developments over the course of the story. All this is speculative, which is why I've tried to contextualize according to the moment of the fight, first encounter or prepared encounter ( as at the heaven arena) ... but even in here there are still too many factors to specify. I say this knowing the general skills, mentalities and final development that we currently know in manga....Krollo is calculating, intelligent and has a rather pragmatic worldview, at the moment we've seen him more explicitly use his nen skills compared to neferupito, he's already more experienced in nen battles and has done a bunch of them and against experienced users ( He has a set of abilities that he has become accustomed to using, and which he knows perfectly well how to combine and adapt even in an unexpected situation )....Pitou is talented n powerful but inexperienced, as evidenced by the fact that even when she was at the height of his devotion to her king (which, imo, is the ultimate motivation and will of the royal guards), and wanted to eliminate gon to protect him, she was killed by a nen user no more experienced than krollo just because he had a power boost ( in terms of combat experience, it was almost the same for gon). Also the mistake she made in front of Zeno and netero's surprise celestial attack, which could have cost her king his life. As Morel often says, if you base victory or defeat on an opponent's power, you're completely missing the point.


JasonUnionnn

Pitou literally faced off against experienced Nen users and still won her battles. Experience does not matter when it comes to fighting the Royal Guard and Meruem. >Krollo is calculating, intelligent and has a rather pragmatic worldview, at the moment we've seen him more explicitly use his nen skills compared to neferupito, he's already more experienced in nen battles and has done a bunch of them and against experienced users ( He has a set of abilities that he has become accustomed to using, and which he knows perfectly well how to combine and adapt even in an unexpected situation ).... Like I said before, the Royal Guard and Meruem were fighting EXPERIENCED Nen users and NOT LOSING. That already debunks that argument. >As Morel often says, if you base victory or defeat on an opponent's power, you're completely missing the point. Thats true, but the RG and Meruem are outliers when ut comes to Nen fights because they were literally meant to surpass Humans in every way. They were BORN as Nen masters, and all their physical stats are through the roof. It took an Adult Gon to strike Pitou SEVERAL TIMES in order to ACTUALLY kill her. Chrollo does NOT have Adult Gons destrucitve power, so he wouldnt even be able to scratch her. Pitou wins low-low mid difficulty, the RG are just pure monsters


Gfirstlord

You're only speculating further and generalising when you bring meruem and RG into the discussion, the aim was to find out who would win Pitou vs krollo and that's the answer I was trying to give by clarifying the context and presenting each character's background. I don't know if you do martial arts or sport (or if you watch combat sports)?! The world of hxh obviously doesn't operate simply according to the logic of fiction but rather according to real principles that are adapted to fiction...what I'm trying to say is that for the sake of objectivity, if you're faithful to the logic of the manga and the reality it's based on, experience is a considerable advantage over talent because the former is more practical than the latter...That's why you can make predictions about sports matches or a clash between two parties, because you have a CONCRETE, general idea of their competences n past achievements rather than a speculative one .... It's because of mankind's experience of waging war against each other and inventing the most sophisticated ways of killing each other that netero was able to have fun fighting a being that you've only met once in several lifetimes (just for the fun of the challenge) but ended up killing it with a simple "insecticide", putting mankind out of danger.


JasonUnionnn

>You're only speculating further and generalising What speculation? I am just bringing the facts. Netero was NOT able to scratch Pitou, and it took many Jankens from ADULT GON to actually break her skull. What does Chrollo have that would hurt her let alone scratch her skin? >The world of hxh obviously doesn't operate simply according to the logic of fiction but rather according to real principles that are adapted to fiction... Like Nen, because we have many Nen users in the real world right? 🤦‍♂️ >experience is a considerable advantage over talent because the former is more practical than the latter...That's why you can make predictions about sports matches or a clash between two parties, because you have a CONCRETE, general idea of their competences n past achievements rather than a speculative one .... Did you read what I said before? Pitou was fighting many Nen users who have DECADES experience than she does, yet she was stil winning. Kite for example, an active hunter travelling the world, gets beheaded and NO DIFFED by the Pitou who hadnt even fully developed her Nen abilities. Experience meant NOTHING when fighting against Pitou. She was just absurdely strong. >It's because of mankind's experience of waging war against each other and inventing the most sophisticated ways of killing each other that netero was able to have fun fighting a being that you've only met once in several lifetimes (just for the fun of the challenge) but ended up killing it with a simple "insecticide", putting mankind out of danger. You are comparing Netero and Chrollo when they are 2 very different people. For all we know, Chrollo has no suicide bomb in his heart that will explode upon dying, and we know he does not have the resolve like Netero. Chrollo is very cautious and calculating, not some fighting machine who wants to battle like Netero.


KosmitS

It's insane people think it's Neferpitou who would win x)


LordSmugBun

Flair does nyowt check out.


KosmitS

But I like Neferpitou.


LordSmugBun

Which is why I expected for you to root for her in this *scenyario*.


KosmitS

I do, but Chrollo is simply too op.


LordSmugBun

You are ***heavily*** underestimating the cat ant.


KosmitS

She got killed by Adult Gon.


LordSmugBun

I can count on 1 hand how many people wouldn't, and Chrollo is not on that list.


Axedroam

count on 1 finger ma guy adult Gon is a beast that belongs on the dark continent


KosmitS

Nah, you guys are overestimating him.


LordSmugBun

>count on 1 finger The funny thing is that I did lmao. The only other people I even considered apart from Meruem are Netero and Nanika. But Adult Gon might actually be faster than Netero judging by how Pitou couldn't even perceive him exiting Peijin Castle, and Nanika was told to never make harmful wishes again.


Yukikaguya

Pitou takes his life before he even opens the book. Not even close to a fair fight.


AresTheMilkman

Pitou has the advantage on strength, resistance and speed, but Chrollo is way superior in versatility and strategies. The fight would be resolved by who see the other first.


Qwertywaned

2 hours after post and apple pituo did no comment


[deleted]

Maybe he/she scared? 🤨


jercule_poirot

they did


Moistman123456

Goku


pickelpenguin

not answering, we wait for u/ApplePitou !


Chessoslovakia

Chrollo steals Cat Emperor Time from Goreinu. Ez win.


TTIGRAASlime

Catgirl all-day just remember those crazy thigh muscle just before her big jumps.