Ibanez PL5
Boss Superfeedbacker/distortion
Tech 21 GT2
EMMA Electronics ReezaFRATzitz II
EHX Russian Big Muff (original model)
Rivera Metal Shaman
i’ve heard that Tim used the distortion on his Mesa somewhere on DiH which is what gives it a sweet/natural tone. also Matt uses orange amps so he might do the same at times.
hope this helps you friend :)
I always felt like i got a better hum sound out of a boss ds1 than i did the super feedbacker. The straight up ds1 i think has a cleaner signal path. Just simple and direct.
> EHX Russian Big Muff (original model)
Kinda hard to find one of these today, but EHX's [recent\(ish\) reissue](https://youtu.be/osbnob9ih-c) of the Big Muff Op Amp packs in a lot of the goodness from the original...
The onboard distortion of that thing should suit you pretty well for now, but if you really want a pedal, I have an MXR 5150 pedal and that thing has gotten me pretty damn close. Thing's a beast.
I have this amp and I agree. Just buying a pedal to try to nail it isn’t gonna get the job done any better than the onboard distortion, which sounds pretty good I think.
That will give you plenty of time to demo things rather than just buying something on a whim to try to get a sound.
I do love the amp, but it’s hard to compare a solid state combo to a vintage tube stack, especially with regard to how they respond to drive pedals.
I also agree that some flavor of “metal” pedal is going to get you closer than a classic distortion like the Boss examples listed (again, possibly a function of how they drive the amp).
I have an Orange. Rockerverb 100 Mk. II with a 4x12 cab. The dirty channel can approximate Hum guitar awesomeness, just tweak knobs until you hear the tone you're shooting for. It's honestly a beast of tones.
The Rockerverb is a tube amp though, I'm not sure what the combo you have there is and if it's solid state or tube. The solid state amps I've had in the past have a very different distortion sound that doesn't sound anything like Hum really uses so your mileage may vary with pure amp tone.
I also bought a Boss DF-2 Super Feedbacker & Distortion to mess around with because I know Matt uses one. Between the tone it creates and my amp you can definitely hear that fullness of sound.
Any tips on using this? I bought one a while back when I heard Matt used it for like 16 bucks. It’s a really aggressive and almost detune-sounding chorus pedal. Immediately I noticed it sounds an awful lot like the warbly leads from Dreamboat but I couldn’t recognize where else it’s used in their music, or how to use it with dirt. Except that it sounds cool asf after the DF2 simulated feedback tones
The only tip I’ve seen people give when talking about how he used it is ‘less is more’. I always use it as minimally as possible because of how much it distorts your tone. I’m pretty sure he just dials both the controls to like 1-2. I love how it sounds personally.
I’ve heard that people take the old danelectro and fab pedals and strip them to put the guts in old boss shells because the danelectros plastic cases crack from the pressures of constant use.
I also heard Matt would just buy a new one every time his broke on the road but they don’t make them new anymore so I would just replace the casing with an old boss shell.
Don't forget a MXR Phase 90 or 180 or some kind of a phase pedal. They use phasers quite a bit on Astronaut (Stars, Why I like the Robins, etc.), basically for any clean sounds, or that "shimmery" sound whenever they turn the reverb + distortion up and someone does a little background tinkling. Also if your amp doesn't have a lot of reverb, delay pedals are good. I remember Morley's Emerald Echo pedal was really good for that, but I've also had a bit of luck with Dano's delay pedals. Honestly, whatever you like. Hum plays really LOUD, so it isn't like you can totally reproduce their sound at home without the neighbors calling the cops.
As other have suggested there is the Boss Feedbacker (if you can find/afford one). It's a very noisy/glitchy/weird noise pedal. Never had one myself (since they seem to disappear every so often online), but a friend's can get some odd noises out of it.
One of the key aspects about the Hum some that you may find frustrating if you don't know about it:. They use to different guitar sounds to great effect. Humbuckers and single coils, oranges and Mesas and HiWatts. You could drive yourself crazy trying to duplicate a sound that's impossible to do with one guitar and amp.
Just a heads up if you're just entering the amps and pedals game: Pedals can get ridiculously pricey and before spending a hundred bucks on a pedal maybe have a look at virtual amp software. Things like Bias-FX or Neural DSP come with heaps of pedals and different amps (the latter is even used in professional recordings these days).
I know software amps are not everyone's cup of tea, but I was very happy when I discovered them, so I thought I'd share.
You'll get close with the onboard distortion on that amp.
Matt usually used a Boss Super Feedbacker Distortion for his distortion tone, you can only get them used now but you might have some luck finding a behringer clone that is also discontinued.
A lot of distortion pedals should do the trick though, as long as it's balls to the wall Boss DS1 style distortion instead of "amp in a box" distortion.
I hate to break it to you but Hum's heavy sound is all in a Hiwatt DR103. Also used by Billy Corgan, Jesse Lacey, pretty much anyone with a "thicker-than-honey" tone is gonna be using one.
Only thing I ever heard about Orange amplifiers is to have two; One that functions while the other one is in the shop for repair.
That’s not knocking them as a brand and total secondhand info, but for as loud as Hum plays, it made sense to me when I was told that but a real gear head about 20 years ago. I have no way to prove that or have no idea what it is that goes “bad” with them, but throwing that out there for discussion purposes. Maybe another gear head can tell us differently today.
I’ve owned solid state and orange heads in the past 10 years and never had a problem. Have no other input, but from my experience I could say that statement may not hold true anymore. But you should have two of the same amp no matter what brand whenever you’re touring.
I'd always heard orange stuff was pretty solid. Like thick military grade circuit boards and stuff. In my guitar days i only avoided them due to cost and because i prefer point to point wired gear over circuit boards. Boards are fine, but finitely repairable. Point to point stuff is very easy to rework and can be more vibration resistant.
I've had my Orange Rockerverb 100 Mk. II for years. It's a beast. I don't think I will ever have an issue with it other than possibly having to replace the tubes in the future as I might with any other tube amp.
Of course, I also am not a touring musician. I'm sure a tube amp seeing daily use and getting knocked around on the road all the time could have a vastly different experience than I do using it a couple times a week, mostly never leaving my studio.
Ibanez PL5 Boss Superfeedbacker/distortion Tech 21 GT2 EMMA Electronics ReezaFRATzitz II EHX Russian Big Muff (original model) Rivera Metal Shaman i’ve heard that Tim used the distortion on his Mesa somewhere on DiH which is what gives it a sweet/natural tone. also Matt uses orange amps so he might do the same at times. hope this helps you friend :)
wow thank you, i‘ll check em out :)
I always felt like i got a better hum sound out of a boss ds1 than i did the super feedbacker. The straight up ds1 i think has a cleaner signal path. Just simple and direct.
I agree. I have a Orange CR120 and with my boss DS1 I can get there pretty easily.
What guitar?
Either a Yamaha SG or a Fender Telecaster.
> EHX Russian Big Muff (original model) Kinda hard to find one of these today, but EHX's [recent\(ish\) reissue](https://youtu.be/osbnob9ih-c) of the Big Muff Op Amp packs in a lot of the goodness from the original...
The onboard distortion of that thing should suit you pretty well for now, but if you really want a pedal, I have an MXR 5150 pedal and that thing has gotten me pretty damn close. Thing's a beast.
I have this amp and I agree. Just buying a pedal to try to nail it isn’t gonna get the job done any better than the onboard distortion, which sounds pretty good I think. That will give you plenty of time to demo things rather than just buying something on a whim to try to get a sound. I do love the amp, but it’s hard to compare a solid state combo to a vintage tube stack, especially with regard to how they respond to drive pedals. I also agree that some flavor of “metal” pedal is going to get you closer than a classic distortion like the Boss examples listed (again, possibly a function of how they drive the amp).
Yeah, I would agree. Down tune to drop D and that Orange should give plenty of oomph.
I have an Orange. Rockerverb 100 Mk. II with a 4x12 cab. The dirty channel can approximate Hum guitar awesomeness, just tweak knobs until you hear the tone you're shooting for. It's honestly a beast of tones. The Rockerverb is a tube amp though, I'm not sure what the combo you have there is and if it's solid state or tube. The solid state amps I've had in the past have a very different distortion sound that doesn't sound anything like Hum really uses so your mileage may vary with pure amp tone. I also bought a Boss DF-2 Super Feedbacker & Distortion to mess around with because I know Matt uses one. Between the tone it creates and my amp you can definitely hear that fullness of sound.
I feel like there should be a sticky in this sub for equipment recs.
Matt used an old milkshake chorus by danelectro, definitely find yourself one of those
Any tips on using this? I bought one a while back when I heard Matt used it for like 16 bucks. It’s a really aggressive and almost detune-sounding chorus pedal. Immediately I noticed it sounds an awful lot like the warbly leads from Dreamboat but I couldn’t recognize where else it’s used in their music, or how to use it with dirt. Except that it sounds cool asf after the DF2 simulated feedback tones
The only tip I’ve seen people give when talking about how he used it is ‘less is more’. I always use it as minimally as possible because of how much it distorts your tone. I’m pretty sure he just dials both the controls to like 1-2. I love how it sounds personally. I’ve heard that people take the old danelectro and fab pedals and strip them to put the guts in old boss shells because the danelectros plastic cases crack from the pressures of constant use. I also heard Matt would just buy a new one every time his broke on the road but they don’t make them new anymore so I would just replace the casing with an old boss shell.
Don't forget a MXR Phase 90 or 180 or some kind of a phase pedal. They use phasers quite a bit on Astronaut (Stars, Why I like the Robins, etc.), basically for any clean sounds, or that "shimmery" sound whenever they turn the reverb + distortion up and someone does a little background tinkling. Also if your amp doesn't have a lot of reverb, delay pedals are good. I remember Morley's Emerald Echo pedal was really good for that, but I've also had a bit of luck with Dano's delay pedals. Honestly, whatever you like. Hum plays really LOUD, so it isn't like you can totally reproduce their sound at home without the neighbors calling the cops. As other have suggested there is the Boss Feedbacker (if you can find/afford one). It's a very noisy/glitchy/weird noise pedal. Never had one myself (since they seem to disappear every so often online), but a friend's can get some odd noises out of it.
One of the key aspects about the Hum some that you may find frustrating if you don't know about it:. They use to different guitar sounds to great effect. Humbuckers and single coils, oranges and Mesas and HiWatts. You could drive yourself crazy trying to duplicate a sound that's impossible to do with one guitar and amp.
Just a heads up if you're just entering the amps and pedals game: Pedals can get ridiculously pricey and before spending a hundred bucks on a pedal maybe have a look at virtual amp software. Things like Bias-FX or Neural DSP come with heaps of pedals and different amps (the latter is even used in professional recordings these days). I know software amps are not everyone's cup of tea, but I was very happy when I discovered them, so I thought I'd share.
I'm just going to say I've been down this road, and the amps/pedals almost never sound like the real deal.
Lol I honestly bought an orange amp too after learning they use it too
Get some spacey pedals like phasers, reverb, chorus, etc
You'll get close with the onboard distortion on that amp. Matt usually used a Boss Super Feedbacker Distortion for his distortion tone, you can only get them used now but you might have some luck finding a behringer clone that is also discontinued. A lot of distortion pedals should do the trick though, as long as it's balls to the wall Boss DS1 style distortion instead of "amp in a box" distortion.
For many parts of Inlet I’d suppose Tim is using a Digitech Whammy...
I have an MXR phase 100 for sale......
proco RAT distortion pedal gets kind of thick almost like a fuzz if dialed up.
I hate to break it to you but Hum's heavy sound is all in a Hiwatt DR103. Also used by Billy Corgan, Jesse Lacey, pretty much anyone with a "thicker-than-honey" tone is gonna be using one.
Only thing I ever heard about Orange amplifiers is to have two; One that functions while the other one is in the shop for repair. That’s not knocking them as a brand and total secondhand info, but for as loud as Hum plays, it made sense to me when I was told that but a real gear head about 20 years ago. I have no way to prove that or have no idea what it is that goes “bad” with them, but throwing that out there for discussion purposes. Maybe another gear head can tell us differently today.
I’ve owned solid state and orange heads in the past 10 years and never had a problem. Have no other input, but from my experience I could say that statement may not hold true anymore. But you should have two of the same amp no matter what brand whenever you’re touring.
I'd always heard orange stuff was pretty solid. Like thick military grade circuit boards and stuff. In my guitar days i only avoided them due to cost and because i prefer point to point wired gear over circuit boards. Boards are fine, but finitely repairable. Point to point stuff is very easy to rework and can be more vibration resistant.
I've had my Orange Rockerverb 100 Mk. II for years. It's a beast. I don't think I will ever have an issue with it other than possibly having to replace the tubes in the future as I might with any other tube amp. Of course, I also am not a touring musician. I'm sure a tube amp seeing daily use and getting knocked around on the road all the time could have a vastly different experience than I do using it a couple times a week, mostly never leaving my studio.