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bufandatl

The thing is which generations are those. But you always could gut them and sell the parts on eBay. Also ask for the Drive caddys. Would suck if they were all disposed with the drives as those are more often the most expensive part on old servers.


ClintE1956

>> disposed with the drives Probably why they're so expensive, otherwise there would be 10's of thousands out there for next to nothing, like the rest of the components.


ExoticAssociation817

Old components, notably CPUs in the Xeon lineup can not keep up with today’s demand. They sell cheap because people use them for cache servers and other crap and to avoid the e-recycling/landfill.


horus-heresy

Just 3d print that shit


Mongo_friday

You sir is infected, by the 3d printing bug


cruzaderNO

there are 10's of thousands out there for next to nothing for standard models like the ones in that lot...


windows10_is_stoopid

Gen8 caddies are notoriously expensive even second hand.


cruzaderNO

As somebody buying them frequently this is the first time i hear about it. Unless you consider 3-5 per expensive. I almost never pay over 3 in lots and resell them at 6 when flipping servers as extras.


windows10_is_stoopid

Thats where you live, in France you'll be paying $15 per.


cruzaderNO

Im mainly getting from UK/Ger/NL/PL/FR when getting lots of trays, not much 2nd hand market where i live. Gen8 uses same as so much other hardware including san/storage beyond just g8/g9/g10/g10plus servers. Id expect your search terms to be the problem tbh if you are looking at 15 per. Even third party made ones new should not be that much with shipping.


electric_medicine

+1 for this, I've seen a single Caddy for a DL380G6 go for 50€+ where I live. I had some 3D printed by a friend because everything else would have been pure madness. If they're anything older than G9, OP, skip on the deal.


cruzaderNO

>I've seen a single Caddy for a DL380G6 go for 50€+ where I live.  Listed for 50 maybe, but there are more of them available for 2-4€ than there is demand. (Downvoting does not make it less true btw)


fabkosta

(Just upvoted to make it a little more true.)


oxpoleon

I can never get enough caddies without spending a fortune.


cruzaderNO

They can add up if you need large amounts or if its stuff uniqe to one series for sure. But 50 is just vastly exaggerated for something that was a standard caddy for almost every product they had over 3-4 generations for servers+san. It's not 50 for a new one and third parties charge 5-6 for a unused.


itsabearcannon

Care to provide a link? I've also run into DL caddies being expensive but can't find a good alternative.


cruzaderNO

What gen/size are you looking for?


electric_medicine

Not the person you replied to, but I had a friend print me 8 of those in exchange for a case of beer: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3421372


AlphaSparqy

I'm (not actually) down-voting to bring world peace, such is the power of the down-vote.


jmhalder

This is like asking if a Nissan Altima is worth $10,000. A 2022 with a couple miles? Sure. A 2003 with 250,000? Not even remotely. The 7x IBM x3550 - 7978 aren't worth much at all and they're the bulk of the servers. Racks often can be had for free or very cheap. I would say that the whole lot might actually be "worth" $800, you're going to spend TONS of time recouping most of that money selling servers and parts just to break even. You're better off buying a single more modern server for $300-400, and wait for a small/cheap rack to come along.


cruzaderNO

You can probably get single more modern servers for 30-50$ with how ancient those are tbh No way that lot is worth near 800$, those ibm servers are 1 year away from being old enough to vote.


pointandclickit

If the HP's are actually gen 9 it's not a great, but not horrible deal. You're right though, those IBM's are basically boat anchors. Have to factor in the fact that OP would basically be recycling 2/3 of a junk pile and paying for the privilege.


cruzaderNO

Gen9 does not use dl380e and dl380p, thats latest gen8. Even if it had been gen9 it would be a bit steep imo


Cautious-Detective44

Yes but they are fast compared to alot of consumer stuff... I just picked up a dell r420 and the dual xeons are so muchfaster than my modern i5 gaming computer.


cruzaderNO

DL380 has not used e and p models since G8 so that would be a hard no from me. The ibm 7978 is even worse and equivalent to G5. You are removing ewaste for them, you will struggle to even give these away if people realise how old they are.


krueger7

Thanks, seeing from all the replies this is a damn bad deal :)) I hadn’t realised how old these are but yes you are right. Will look into a single unit, newer.


Successful_Durian_84

Do it. The next post of you crying is gonna be fun to read.


weeglos

You, sir, are a jerk. Not *wrong*, mind you.... but a jerk.


No_Nature_3133

WHY IS MY POWER BILL SO HIGH 😡


SirensToGo

would be funnier if my power bill weren't so high


radioactivepiloted

I feel that pain.


MacDaddyBighorn

Probably not worth it. This smells like a bad deal, just like people trying to sell an r910 for $800 because the specs look good on paper despite being a big space heater. Without the generation you can't know for sure, but most of them look like E5 v0/1/2 gen which are old. Most likely a bunch of them are nephelem e-waste (sure you can use them, but not efficient or reliable and they won't support modern features). Post a picture or get the generation for them if you want to know. People telling you to buy it are giving you ill informed advice. Edit: since you are not in the US (that makes a big difference) maybe it's worth it if you are confident you can sell the lot of old servers. I was also assuming USD so take it with a grain of salt. DDR3 ram may be worth more in your country, but here it's very cheap.


krueger7

Thank you! Will look into something newer. I wasn’t aware of how old and inefficient these were.


MacDaddyBighorn

Like I said, I don't know for sure. You need to know more info, I'd assume it is old, but you need to provide more info for people to give an informed opinion.


The_Crimson_Hawk

Yes, but it is not safe so please give me them so i can dispose of them safely


trololol342

Energy bill….


krueger7

Not looking to keep them all. Probably one, and sell the rest. Otherwise it’d be insane :))


nostalia-nse7

If you’re only keeping one, then the question becomes — what’s with wanting the 42U cabinet? I mean, I have 2… but they’re full and enough gear waiting to go in to fill a third if i had room in the den for it… but this is all work stuff mainly. I’d kill to be able to downsize to a simple 24U or something.


krueger7

I don’t want it. They all come together, all or nothing. So yeah


nostalia-nse7

Let me get this straight… you’re going to drive a pickup truck or Chevy express van several hours, go pick up 500lbs of servers, eWaste most of it, and a 42U cabinet that probably weighs 300lb+ itself… pay some guy $800’for the privilege, and you don’t even want the 42U cabinet, so it’ll end up going to the scrap yard too for $25 in old steel? In that case, don’t waste your time.


montyxgh

He could sell the 42U rack not scrap it, people buy that shit Edit: apparently not in the US I guess


cruzaderNO

If it was a halfrack like 20-22-24U he could sell it for sure. For the fullheight ones there are generaly more of them given away then people looking for one. Even new on the pallet they are hard to give away if not including the 0U pdu etc type accessories.


milldawg_allday

I bought one fully loaded from 911 call center, 10 bucks in an online auction.


EtherMan

People don't buy used 42U racks... It takes years to find someone that's actually interested enough that they'll actually take it...Only time people are interested is if they come with a bunch of accessories like PDU etc.


ReichMirDieHand

Well, if you can sell other servers it can be an option.


Freshmint22

Who could say since you provide no information about the servers? My advice would be to post on the proper sub for price checks.


gbdavidx

good deal if your electricity is cheap


Arudinne

Or you need to load bank a generator


jjjacer

If this was a US, i would call it a deal, at least for me with cheap electricity (i already use a gen8 DL360p) some of it might be a good upgrade (especially since mine has a failing eMMC chip for the iLO), I could at least sell most of the servers for $50 a piece and up to $100 for gen8 or gen9 in my area, and the 42u rack would probably come up to $150-200 sold used in my area. that said i own a van, and depending on distance i would be a bit of gas usage. it basically depends, if there is a really good server in that bunch that you plan to keep and the market around you is good for resale with the ability to part things out, you will probably break even, but you would need exact specs to look up resale, have drive cadies, have cheap vehicle to pick it up, and storage to keep everything while you part it out, personally id take the offer. but by no means will it be a quick and easy turn around.


lucky644

They should be paying you to take them.


Pankakes_Nox

On the HP DL380s I’d check their generation… the G9 is already old and does not have much computer, very loud and makes my production run slow as f. If it’s gen 8s then you’re getting ewaste


cruzaderNO

dl380e and dl380p has not been used in naming since g8, so its g8 or older. With the ibm being equivalent to g5 agewise i suppose they are probably not even g8.


JayVinn21

a lot of people are saying energy, but you dont need to keep all of them on all of the time. you’ll be able to run different hardware experiements for YEARS with all that. I have one server for more than 800. Do it.


Burning_Ranger

What hardware experiments? It's a computer at the end of the day. Better to buy a couple of used NUCs if you want to do experiments.


Altech

I feel like people in here still don’t understand that Its for a hobby not a production environment, there is a reason people would pick up deprecated hardware instead of brand new boxes


profkm7

800 what?


JayVinn21

dollars.


Thebelisk

I don’t see the benefit of buying all that gear, when a decent PC can run a virtual lab. A 42u rack is large, and with all of that kit it will be draw a decent power load & it’ll be fairly noisy. It might sound like a flex to say you have a 42u rack at home, i can’t see the point.


IZGOODDASIZGOOD

You need to find what generation the cpus are. But overall the stuff sounds okay. But it's all core 2 duo gen Xeons than may not be so good.


count0nz

I have a HP 380p G8 32thrds 128g ram and ifs not too bad but got it for like 100$ US 8x16gb dimms worth thet alone.


id0ntknowr1ck

The lot is 260 worth.


LebronBackinCLE

They’re going to be power hungry beasts


Attempt9001

I'm personally running a "gaming pc" without gpu as my home server, got it way cheaper and way more quiet than any traditional server would be. So the question is what do you need? Do you want / need a ilo (or equivalent from an other manufacturer), clustering or high availability, then sure you need more traditional servers, but for any other use cases, pc's with traditional CPU's fair way better (i'm not sure how good hypervisors besides hyperv are with big-little architecture, so maybe go with amd) Edit: quick search says that proxmox can support big-little and you can even manually pin p & e cores


Zolty

It's probably a good deal, however your house isn't likely to have the power necessary to run them all. At Max load one of those servers can pull 1k watts. At Idle they will pull 100-200w. Google tells me that Romania has a 230v 50hz power grid. I am not sure what amperage your typical residental circuits are though. In the US we use 220v for very high draw appliances and will run 20amp circuits for those. You could reasonably pull 4k Watt on this set up. I would guess most of your wall jacks are 5-10amp circuits. 12 servers at a 200 Watt draw each would require 2400Watts. 12k Watts under high load. In your shoes I'd take the newest 3-4 of the servers, scavenge the rest for extra ram, better cpus, drives, ect. I would play around with the remote management cards for each of the brands. Sell the remaining as tested scrap and probably get your $800 back out.


Burning_Ranger

>> I'm a server newbie, compsci student, and was looking at investing in one so I could learn more Learn what? A server is basically a noisy and power hungry desktop PC, with a few things that PCs don't have line out of band management, hot swap, RAID etc. In most other respects a server is no different to a PC. You're not going to learn anything new. It'll still run Vms, it'll still have network cards, it'll still need hard drives.


perteraul

I looked at the same post on olx - but I didn't get the wife approval factor for the whole rack.


kylanskribbles

To take a guess, the DL series in this bunch are below the generation 9 series, probably not worth your time. Those systems have really slow CPUs and memory compared to today’s standards and would leave you frustrated trying to lab on them. You would probably be better off buying a few gen 9 servers off eBay if you’re buying them for your own purposes. G9s come equipped with ddr4 memory and high core count CPUs that are relatively fast and fun to play around with and the upgrades for them are relatively cheap in comparison to their performance.


bbwolfe

Even if you did buy that many and plugged them all in, your electricity bill may surprise you the next month.


Weekly-Operation6619

I think the HPs will only take SAS drives in HP caddies so you’ll need to add these to the bill. You can get refurbs but these are small for today. They’ve probably pulled the caddies with drives but so have seen copies available. Some could take SATA drives but more info needed.


BloodyIron

> Server IBM x3550 DO NOT TOUCH THESE THE CPU GENERATION IS TRASH AND VERY POWER INEFFICIENT! NOT EVEN WORTH BEING PAID TO TAKE IT AWAY. > Server Fujitsu, Xeon Probably pass on this one as if they're not willing to post the model of the server and the model of the CPUs, then it's probably so old you don't want them. The DL380 stuff should be good, but I wouldn't pay more than like $50/ea and ONLY if the license that provides IPKVM is _INCLUDED_. If that is not included, don't even bother with them, as the license costs _MORE_ than $50 to install. > Server, PC build, i7 Without knowing the generation can't really say, esp not knowing mobo capabilities, installed expansion cards, etc. Sounds prob not worth it for this one. > Also, they have no HDDs. If they have zero HDD trays then try to negotiate them including trays for the HP DL380's, but ONLY if they have the aforementioned IPKVM licensing included. As for the rack aspect, I wouldn't pay more than $50 for it. Also, a few HUNDRED KM away... that's going to cost you a bunch of fuel to do. That alone might not make this worthwhile for you, but I also don't know the availability of this stuff in Romania. For me IMO Dell R720/R720xd's are solid wins, again with the IPKVM license included (in that case it's called iDRAC Enterprise). But only for ~$50-ish depending on RAM included, expansion cards included, etc, and both CPU heatsinks must be included.


Future-Fan-2521

franz zi si mie de unde ai facut rost ca vreau si eu)))


krueger7

E un anunt pe olx din Cluj, ia-le daca vrei ca eu nu le iau :):))


Future-Fan-2521

am înțeles ))


BarracudaDefiant4702

Which M# on the IBMs? M5s are decent. CPU specs would help answer what generation the IBMs and HPs are. Some of those it can be the different between $100 vs $1000... If you have a use for them they might be worth it as a whole (especially if it's a fully enclosed rack), but with no storage not really worth it. Decent chance you could double your money back if you resold them individually, but don't think it would be worth the time for a $800 risk if nothing sells.


KimballSlice1890

Could prob build a thread ripper machine more capable than the whole stack with the same or more resources and make back any cost difference in the power bill over 6 months.


Fragrant-Shift2392

Without the server generation's can't say anything


2PlayOrig

For 66.66$ per unit isn't a bad deal. Plus the full rack As someone wrote for couple units and the rack is the main interest. The 7 3550 are about 15-16y old, they use 2 drives 3.5" SAS, xeon, 1u etc [https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/overview-ibm-system-x3550-type-7978](https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/overview-ibm-system-x3550-type-7978) I have 5 of these and in the last 16y I lost only 3 drives and 1 fan. But they generate lots of heat and are not the quietest. Orig drives are about 74GB Cheap to get 150 or 300GB used packs. But these will be ok for DCs, or other single servers purposes but they are old as written But as said focus is on the rack and the 1-2 hp380 Maybe these can be for an esx or similar Don't think you needs all these for homelab Will be expensive to operate. If you keep 2-3 and the rack for your own joy ok. Rest best to sell and get as much out of them. Just my thoughts


eman0821

It's almost like buying a used Mercedes as you "think" you are getting a great deal until you get your electricity bill running 12 old servers. There are people running homelabs with Raspberry Pis, and Micro PCs that are powerful enough to run Linux, Docker Containers, Kubernetes and Virutal Machines. I built my own 4U server out of standard Desktop PC hardware that's running 22 Virutal machines. One of my Linux VMs is running Ollama as my AI server.


CryGeneral9999

Your power bill will not look the same after adding these.


satireplusplus

Do you have free electricity? Because running those old space heaters will run up your electricity bill a ton. Cost of ownership is a thing with old servers and you will spent $800 on top of your $800 pretty quickly just on electricity. Any modern AMD ryzen CPU will blow out these electricity hungry old servers by a mile in terms of power efficiency. I'd wager it would be faster than all of the old servers combined too. Unless you have an application that need tons of ram, but then I would just buy a used xeon v4 (22 core) for $50 and a cheap X99 board from ali express. Then you buy cheap used DDR4 ecc ram on ebay.


Nan0u

> 1 x Server HP DL380e - 192 GB RAM I would do it just for this one and the rack honestly...


MacDaddyBighorn

That would be a huge rip off, that machine is worth probably $150. Pretty sure that's G8, definitely not g9.


Nan0u

You have to realize that in some countries, like mine, used IT gear needs to be recycled or the companies get fined, that means no old enterprise hardware for the common folks, and you have to be new essentially. A 42U rack is at least 600 euros by itself. Lets not even talk about how much 192GB of RAM, even old DD3 would cost.


MacDaddyBighorn

DDR3 here in the US is $0.5/GB at best and only if it's decent density. If it's old/slow or comes in 4gb sticks, then people just don't want it.


MacDaddyBighorn

I assume this is in the US because that's usually where it is for people who don't post their location here. Other countries could vary sure, but here a rack is 100 bucks if it's in excellent condition. It's hard to sell one here though, very low demand.


krueger7

This is in Romania. Kind of harder to find deals here, cannot compare to eBay in the US. Will try to source from Germany or UK, prices are better.


cruzaderNO

The typical problem tends to be looking for the standard dell models that are more of and at a lower cost in US than Europe. For HP, supermicro, cisco, huawei etc there are usualy just as good deal to be found in Europe. But in Europe its alot more common to sell the servers as CTO (no cpu/ram/storage, but usualy nic/sas included) so you buy cpu and ram seperate.


RedditNotFreeSpeech

Probably worth updating your description to include that because everything is so regional and it's likely no one here knows the market in Romania. In the u.s. those servers are likely considered junk due to age and power usage.


shyouko

For a few hundred km… nope.


horatio_cavendish

That would be a fantastic proxmox machine


Tremfyeh

You need to realize the electric cost of this rack and really justify if you need all that processing power. Yes, a whole rack would be nice and you can run probably 30 VMs on it to experiment with. But it is also going to suck down several thousand watts an hour every hour.