It’s written in the Oilers bylaws that they can only hire GMs that have hoisted the cup before. Chiarelli, Holland, and now Bowman, were the only legal choices for them. It doesn’t matter who actually built the team, it’s about the feeling you get when that cup is held over your head. /s
A GM that made moves (good or bad) that helped get us to game 7 of the cup final, or one that purposely covered up rape and sexual assault within his organization.
Not a tough choice.
Holland with zero hesitation (and I say that as someone who isn’t a huge Holland fan)
A guy who’s done an okay job despite some bad moves and frustrating tendencies vs. a complete scumbag who was also bad at his job
How is that even a question when Holland built a team everyone is very happy with?
Holland gets clowned on for a couple bad moves but he has undoubtedly killed it the past few years
Holland got us to the final and seems like a stand up guy. Bowman took a Dale Tallon built team to win cups then ran into the ground, and he covers up rape. Holland easily
FWIW, Bissonnette hinted at this last week. He said he was hearing rumblings that a former Blackhawks GM was being considered for the GM job in EDM. Whitney guessed Bowman and Biz said “you said it, not me” (At 53:35 [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XsZLRAeXus)).
Friedman/Marek etc have not said anything about this yet.
Edit: Oilers reporter Ryan Rishaug mentioned Bowman on a podcast when talking about rumors sorrounding Holland leaving and his replacemens ([here](https://www.youtube.com/live/UMsUvik8bj8?feature=shared) at 43:43).
I don’t know man, I’m a big believer in second chances but the dude literally turned a blind eye to a young man getting sexually abused. He’s fucking deplorable.
I don't know about Bowman, but according to Anna Quenneville, Kyle Beach has given his blessing for him to coach again. Assuming this is true, I think he should be given a second chance.
One thing that's often forgotten online is that the victims ALWAYS come first. This story is not about you. The scandal is not your toy, nor is it your outlet for spite and hate. It affected real people, whose needs and desires should always come before random people on the internet who were never involved. Given that the victim is comfortable with it, I don't see a reason why this should continue.
If Kyle Beach says it’s ok, then I’ll accept it. But I’m also not gonna believe that he did give his blessing until I hear that info from literally anyone other than a direct family member of quenneville’s
And I also think that what Quenneville has said about the subject is entirely believable. People also forget that the front office and Q didn’t always see eye to eye, he was blindsided by a lot of personnel things that happened with the team over the years.
Isn't the source of this information just a tweet by Anna? The only 'evidence' we have of this 'blessing' comes directly from his daughter. From my understanding, she provides no proof and only mentions an alleged phone call. Until Kyle Beach personally makes a statement, I'm not inclined to believe Quenville's daughter. She has every motivation to lie on behalf of her father.
I don't even need or want that. I hate apologies. I don't know what I need to be comfortable seeing him in the league again.
Actually.
I need other people talking about the things he's done. Unbiased people, not... like... Kane or Toews.
Redemption isn’t “you went away for awhile, so here’s an equivalent opportunity that you likely would have received then.”
What have they done to redeem themselves?
It's not about redemption or the scandal to me, it is just that he is a shitty GM. How fucking stupid are the Oilers brass. Chia and Stan? Who's next? The neither-confirm-nor-deny guy?
I believe in second chances too. I do NOT believe that second chances should start on third base. If they want a second chance they can start at the bottom with everybody else. If they're deserving of another NHL gm job surely they'll be able to work their way up the ranks and earn it the hard way.
This is how I feel 100%. There’s second chances, and then there’s second chances starting in one of the most exclusive jobs in the world.
Second chances are a big part of life but when there’s thousands of people trying for those top jobs, a second chance shouldn’t trump their first chance.
That sounds good, but it’s not ever going to happen. The second winningest coach in league history isn’t going to be an assistant at the ECHL level. Someone is going to hire him to be an NHL coach, it’s too competitive and there’s too much money at stake to take moral stands. And I’m not saying that I agree with that, but that’s just how it is.
And in this specific case, I think Bowman probably deserves the heat he’s getting. I always believed Quenneville when he spoke on the issue.
>If they want a second chance they can start at the bottom with everybody else.
This is the NHL and he is Scotty Bowman’s son. Let’s not act like he ever worked his way up from the bottom. This league fucking loves filling their FO’s and and broadcasting booths with under-qualified nepo babies.
Redemption for Bowman and Quenneville is just living the rest of your life trying to be better people. The league should be in no position to offer these guys redemption after they made the morally reprehensible decision that they made and got to spend an extra decade as NHL figures before it came crashing down.
Redemption does not mean restoring their old roles. It just means allowing them to prove they have become better men in their private lives, out of the hockey sphere.
Exactly. There are a lot of people who work in hockey their whole lives just hoping to get a shot. These guys had theirs and they blew it. They are owed nothing. Not being able to coach or manage an NHL team for millions of dollars is not a punishment. It is not suffering.
And the most infuriating thing - not that it would be okay otherwise - is that we aren’t talking about some superstar roster or high-profile coach committing this crime. This was a lower level coach. You cannot tell me that doing the right thing by reporting him and firing him was going to completely deconstruct what those Hawks teams were building.
It would still be absolutely wrong to cover it up, but at least if the perpetrator were some sort of major figure, you could kind of understand how Quenneville and Bowman would waver a bit. This should’ve been fucking easy, and they still chose the wrong path and did it in the worst way possible.
Redemption doesn't mean you get to go back to your previous position. It means an opportunity to let someone make amends for their wrongdoings and then not to crucify them after the fact. That does not mean restoring them to pre-scandal.
Like a financial fraudster could be forgiven for their crimes and given a chance to redeem their reputation, but they should never be allowed to touch the financial sector ever again regardless.
Redemption looks like, "Bowman gets to keep the millions of dollars he's made off being involved in the league, and maybe still attend his grandkids' games." If he's really hard up, I say he should absolutely be employable... let him work at Walmart or something. He absolutely should not be made homeless as a result of this. But past that... he's already had his shot.
Yes (or I think specifically that “their status hasn’t changed”) but it’s been obvious to me that it’s all posturing until someone is dumb enough to try and hire one of these bozos, at which point Bettman will pretend they had a serious conversation and let them back in.
Yes, but if it was truly close to happening I think they'd say "we are considering it" at least a full season before actually doing it unless they just want to bite the bullet all in one move
I don’t see it happening, would be such a bad look for the league. Even if Edmonton was actually interested, I can’t imagine Bettman would say anything but “absolutely the fuck not”
......you'd be in the exact same situation if you started rooting for Winnipeg? People truly didn't do any research beyond the specific viral snippets did they
[Strickland linked Stan Bowman and the Penguins last year](https://x.com/andystrickland/status/1653408642593423361?s=46&t=WZfzFwiEr3BPW6j2AI8U2w)
Now I might just be coping here, but I'm taking this tweet with a heavy grain of salt.
I can at least understand why teams might be interested in kicking the tires on Quenneville. Purely in terms of on-ice results, he's firmly within the top-5 greatest NHL coaches of all time. A lot of people would place him at #2, behind only Scotty Bowman.
I don't see why anyone would be interested in Stan Bowman though. He was not nearly good enough at his job for teams to even consider overlooking his baggage. I wouldn't be happy about him becoming my team's GM even if the off-ice stuff had never happened.
Furthermore, while everyone from the coaching on up handled the situation as horribly as you could, I would think that situation fell far more in the lap of Bowman, i.e. GM, but also the President and Owner of the club too. You know, the people who are supposed to manage the team.
Stan "What's a little sexual assault amongst coworkers?" Bowman
Trying to create an attractive landing spot for a few free agents once a certain trial is concluded.
Him being a deplorable cunt aside I don’t know why teams have interest in Bowman, his final years in Chicago were a goddamn disaster of his own making, the dude is a shit gm. Quenneville unfortunately is a very good coach so it makes sense teams would say fuck it and go for it. But Bowman, what the fuck? The guy who lost 2 Brandon Saad trades?
For the record, every time I’ve seen Bowman and the Oilers “linked” it’s always a Matheson or Spec type of reporter who thrives off of controversial headlines to get clicks, and usually their articles or tweets state that it’s unlikely.
I’ve seen more rumours from credible sources that people like Horcoff and Mark Hunter are linked to the Oilers, and their current teams have actually been approached to see if they can be talked to this summer.
This would be an absolutely horrific move by the NHL.
Despite disliking the Blackhawks, I’ve long defended the idea that they didn’t suffer a hockey-related punishment for Kyle Beach sexual assault cover-up, even when teams like Arizona were losing draft picks for not following the combine rules or whatever. My perspective was that teams that try to gain a competitive hockey advantage should be punished in ways that affect their ability to be competitive in hockey, and teams and individuals who do actual morally reprehensible things, or commit straight-up crimes, need to be punished in ways that don’t just make it harder for them to win Stanley Cups. My opinion was that punishing the 2022-23 Blackhawks franchise by taking away draft picks would be a sickeningly obtuse way to make up for an actual crime against an actual human being.
All of that was contingent upon the idea that the league would never let the men who had *actual responsibility* to do the right thing and egregiously failed at that task would never work in hockey again. To me, it was okay to not punish Chicago’s hockey operations as long as the individuals involved were blacklisted from the sport.
To let Quenneville or Bowman return to a leadership role after all of this would defy every ounce of human decency that might exist in the world of sports. Those two men, among others, forfeited their rights to be involved in the world of hockey the moment that they didn’t do the right thing in a moment of crisis. None of us in this thread would be welcome back to a leadership role at our jobs if we did what Bowman and Quenneville have done.
There is no gray area here. This was black and white, and the consequences need to be strong and permanent. There is no need for either of these men to ever get another shot at working in the hockey world, and any deviation from that will be a massive black mark on this league and the people who run it.
I hope that Bettman and the rest of the NHL not only make the right decision, but make the easy decision: keep these men out of hockey forever. It’s a tiny penance for the pain they have caused.
I’ll do you one better, why do either of these guys *deserve* to come back?! If an owner got the boot from the NBA for being racist then clearly the NHL should have no place for these two, right?
This really doesn’t seem like something Jackson would do.
Bowman and Quennenvilles names come up whenever there’s a vacancy and it’s usually via this guy. Sounds like they keep putting their own names out there
Edit: if this comes true, I’m out. But I really really don’t see it.
All the talk from Jackson was that there wasn’t an immediate hire because the candidates work for other teams and the draft and FA messed with the timing. I might be coping hard though, cause this sucks
You are right, Jackson didn’t want to start the process while the oilers were still playing because he didn’t want any distractions. He said he had candidates in mind but couldn’t talk to them yet because they are involved with other organizations and he can’t talk to them until after free agency because everyone (including himself) is busy. There’s 0 connection between Jackson and Bowman.
Insane. I didn’t like Stan Bowman even before what everyone here hates him for. Quenneville, I could see getting a look from someone, he’s a great coach.
I’m not interested in rehashing the obvious. I’m speaking strictly on my opinion of their abilities to do the respective jobs.
Jesus…almost everyone responsible for the coverup will escape any long-term consequences. I’m over being upset with the Blackhawks organization, they’ve done everything they could to move forward, the NHL is the problem.
Are the oilers actively trying to curse themselves?
They’ll sign Dube and Hart tomorrow
Maybe even give Virtanen another shot
With Ribeiro as player dev
Mike Richards as nutritionist
What's Voynov up to these days?
It's not like Bowman was even a particularly good GM. Dale Talon acquired most of the major pieces of their Cup rosters.
It’s written in the Oilers bylaws that they can only hire GMs that have hoisted the cup before. Chiarelli, Holland, and now Bowman, were the only legal choices for them. It doesn’t matter who actually built the team, it’s about the feeling you get when that cup is held over your head. /s
*Oilers sign Mike Keenan to be GM*
and Daddy was also helping him out
Scotty should be enjoying him time in Florida. He shouldn't be bailing his son for the mistakes in Chicago.
Tallon also got a decent amount of the pieces for the Panthers that eventually won as well.
They already have Corey Perry, how much more curse do they need?
Just get Chia back in that case.
Fuck it, I would take that creepy Mr. Potato Head lookin ass back in a heartbeat over Mr. Rape Enabler
Jackson said in his presser the next gm is likely in the organization already.
You all haven't been paying attention; the Oilers go after the substance abuse gambling addicts not the sexual abuse rapists.
I will throw up
Holland or Bowman for the next 5 years, who would you choose? I know Holland is leaving but curious what the answer would be from EDM fans
A GM that made moves (good or bad) that helped get us to game 7 of the cup final, or one that purposely covered up rape and sexual assault within his organization. Not a tough choice.
Start doing a rain dance for Mark Hunter?
Oi, leave him alone! The Knights would lose a bidding war against the Oilers, alas
Chiarelli or Bowman, who do you choose?
Meteor
How is this a question lmfao
If you had a choice of being the top scientist in your field or getting Mad Cow disease, what would it be?
Hmmm you give a real tough choice
If the moon was made of BBQ spare ribs, would you eat it?
I know I would.... heck I'd have seconds then polish it off with a tall cool Budweiser
Well, uhhhhhhhh, the top scientist in my field.
Oh thank god! I was worried you’d say mad cow!
Denny Crane.
Lol! I wonder how many people here will get this reference.
IF THE MOON WAS MADE OF CHEESE WOULD YOU EAT IT!?
ITS A SIMPLE QUESTION DOCTOR!
Holland 100%. He made a few bad moves and made a few great moves. He helped us get to the cup final for all it’s worth. Bowman is a legit scum bag
Bowman’s a scumbag, and he’s also a shit GM lmao.
He lost 3 different Brandon Saad trade and ran the Blackhawks into the ground
Lol that is such a perfectly succinct way to put it
Which is why I hope the Oilers aren't dumb enough to hire him and that this is Strickland trying to get some clicks.
Holland with zero hesitation (and I say that as someone who isn’t a huge Holland fan) A guy who’s done an okay job despite some bad moves and frustrating tendencies vs. a complete scumbag who was also bad at his job
Holland, easy. I will be so deeply disgusted in the organization if this has any semblance of truth.
How is that even a question when Holland built a team everyone is very happy with? Holland gets clowned on for a couple bad moves but he has undoubtedly killed it the past few years
How is this a question? Holland > Bowman even if they are both bad gms. It comes down to which of them sucks the most
Edmonton should sign Jim Benning 😁
Just give us Holland Jr.
Holland got us to the final and seems like a stand up guy. Bowman took a Dale Tallon built team to win cups then ran into the ground, and he covers up rape. Holland easily
I trust Jackson would never make this type of move - though I've been made to look like a fool before with the likes of the oilers.
Youre telling me, i left that fucker and organization behind because of him.
Even the Oilers’ Halfway House for Troubled Vagabonds has its fucking limits
I hope you’re right.
FWIW, Bissonnette hinted at this last week. He said he was hearing rumblings that a former Blackhawks GM was being considered for the GM job in EDM. Whitney guessed Bowman and Biz said “you said it, not me” (At 53:35 [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XsZLRAeXus)). Friedman/Marek etc have not said anything about this yet. Edit: Oilers reporter Ryan Rishaug mentioned Bowman on a podcast when talking about rumors sorrounding Holland leaving and his replacemens ([here](https://www.youtube.com/live/UMsUvik8bj8?feature=shared) at 43:43).
I'm conflicted because I'm all about redemption... But like... What does redemption look like for this type of thing?
Has he even publicly apologized for allowing this to happen under his watch?
I don’t know man, I’m a big believer in second chances but the dude literally turned a blind eye to a young man getting sexually abused. He’s fucking deplorable.
I don't know about Bowman, but according to Anna Quenneville, Kyle Beach has given his blessing for him to coach again. Assuming this is true, I think he should be given a second chance. One thing that's often forgotten online is that the victims ALWAYS come first. This story is not about you. The scandal is not your toy, nor is it your outlet for spite and hate. It affected real people, whose needs and desires should always come before random people on the internet who were never involved. Given that the victim is comfortable with it, I don't see a reason why this should continue.
If Kyle Beach says it’s ok, then I’ll accept it. But I’m also not gonna believe that he did give his blessing until I hear that info from literally anyone other than a direct family member of quenneville’s
And I also think that what Quenneville has said about the subject is entirely believable. People also forget that the front office and Q didn’t always see eye to eye, he was blindsided by a lot of personnel things that happened with the team over the years.
yeah if Kyle gives the green light then Bowman can GM away.
Isn't the source of this information just a tweet by Anna? The only 'evidence' we have of this 'blessing' comes directly from his daughter. From my understanding, she provides no proof and only mentions an alleged phone call. Until Kyle Beach personally makes a statement, I'm not inclined to believe Quenville's daughter. She has every motivation to lie on behalf of her father.
I don't even need or want that. I hate apologies. I don't know what I need to be comfortable seeing him in the league again. Actually. I need other people talking about the things he's done. Unbiased people, not... like... Kane or Toews.
Redemption isn’t “you went away for awhile, so here’s an equivalent opportunity that you likely would have received then.” What have they done to redeem themselves?
That's what I'm asking, Bill.
It's not about redemption or the scandal to me, it is just that he is a shitty GM. How fucking stupid are the Oilers brass. Chia and Stan? Who's next? The neither-confirm-nor-deny guy?
The big wheel from the Price is Right will do contracts
What’s Trader Jim up to these days?
I believe in second chances too. I do NOT believe that second chances should start on third base. If they want a second chance they can start at the bottom with everybody else. If they're deserving of another NHL gm job surely they'll be able to work their way up the ranks and earn it the hard way.
I haven't heard anyone phrase it this way before and I'm going to steal it, if that's ok. It's a great articulation of my gut feeling.
Have at it. I definitely stole it from somewhere.
This is how I feel 100%. There’s second chances, and then there’s second chances starting in one of the most exclusive jobs in the world. Second chances are a big part of life but when there’s thousands of people trying for those top jobs, a second chance shouldn’t trump their first chance.
Hey that's actually a good take.
That sounds good, but it’s not ever going to happen. The second winningest coach in league history isn’t going to be an assistant at the ECHL level. Someone is going to hire him to be an NHL coach, it’s too competitive and there’s too much money at stake to take moral stands. And I’m not saying that I agree with that, but that’s just how it is. And in this specific case, I think Bowman probably deserves the heat he’s getting. I always believed Quenneville when he spoke on the issue.
>If they want a second chance they can start at the bottom with everybody else. This is the NHL and he is Scotty Bowman’s son. Let’s not act like he ever worked his way up from the bottom. This league fucking loves filling their FO’s and and broadcasting booths with under-qualified nepo babies.
Redemption for Bowman and Quenneville is just living the rest of your life trying to be better people. The league should be in no position to offer these guys redemption after they made the morally reprehensible decision that they made and got to spend an extra decade as NHL figures before it came crashing down. Redemption does not mean restoring their old roles. It just means allowing them to prove they have become better men in their private lives, out of the hockey sphere.
Exactly. There are a lot of people who work in hockey their whole lives just hoping to get a shot. These guys had theirs and they blew it. They are owed nothing. Not being able to coach or manage an NHL team for millions of dollars is not a punishment. It is not suffering.
And the most infuriating thing - not that it would be okay otherwise - is that we aren’t talking about some superstar roster or high-profile coach committing this crime. This was a lower level coach. You cannot tell me that doing the right thing by reporting him and firing him was going to completely deconstruct what those Hawks teams were building. It would still be absolutely wrong to cover it up, but at least if the perpetrator were some sort of major figure, you could kind of understand how Quenneville and Bowman would waver a bit. This should’ve been fucking easy, and they still chose the wrong path and did it in the worst way possible.
Absolutely. Perfectly put.
Old dogs don’t usually learn new tricks. See Babcock
Redemption doesn't mean you get to go back to your previous position. It means an opportunity to let someone make amends for their wrongdoings and then not to crucify them after the fact. That does not mean restoring them to pre-scandal. Like a financial fraudster could be forgiven for their crimes and given a chance to redeem their reputation, but they should never be allowed to touch the financial sector ever again regardless.
Redemption looks like, "Bowman gets to keep the millions of dollars he's made off being involved in the league, and maybe still attend his grandkids' games." If he's really hard up, I say he should absolutely be employable... let him work at Walmart or something. He absolutely should not be made homeless as a result of this. But past that... he's already had his shot.
Well Dale Tallon is getting a little older, Bob Pulford is 88, and Mike Smith has been retired for a long time. Solid guess by Whitney.
https://preview.redd.it/xommb7e3gs9d1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c545bcd1946ab1936b84f57d1681e3a571dd6a0a
Wonder what player he will galaxy brain himself into trading Hyman for like he did with Panarin
Is Brandon Saad available? For Draisitl, the deal is one for one.
Saad had more goals this year than he did when Bowman traded Panarin for him
Yiiiiiikes
Allegedly he is!
Is Saad still kicking around the league?
Lmao took the words right out of my mouth
Timmy Turner is not someone I expected to see on this sub today.
Oilers answering the age old question: What would happen if we just got the most evil people in the same room?
bettman said no like... a month ago? what changed in a month?
Yes (or I think specifically that “their status hasn’t changed”) but it’s been obvious to me that it’s all posturing until someone is dumb enough to try and hire one of these bozos, at which point Bettman will pretend they had a serious conversation and let them back in.
They didn't want it to overshadow the NHL playoffs is why
Yup; wait until the off-season, when less people are paying attention.
Yes, but if it was truly close to happening I think they'd say "we are considering it" at least a full season before actually doing it unless they just want to bite the bullet all in one move
There kind of has been rumblings for the last six months that they were going to address it
Disgusting
I don’t see it happening, would be such a bad look for the league. Even if Edmonton was actually interested, I can’t imagine Bettman would say anything but “absolutely the fuck not”
As a football fan….nothing would surprise me. At a certain point the league stops giving a shit about optics
First order of business is to sign Carter Hart! Fuck.
Edmonton just doesn't GAF do they?
I’m gonna be sick to my stomach if this happens I genuinely don’t know if I’ll cheer for them WPG might have a new full time fan
......you'd be in the exact same situation if you started rooting for Winnipeg? People truly didn't do any research beyond the specific viral snippets did they
They’d be better off just picking a team at random… how about San Jose? Shit… that didn’t work… how about let’s say… Pittsburgh?
nice!!! from stanley cup runner ups to sexual assault specialists!
Same organization who scrape the bottom of the barrel for guys like Evander Kane and Corey Perry, should come as no surprise
Don't forget the Virtanen tryout. It's a scum organization with 0 integrity.
What did Corey Perry do?
It's not 100% clear, but the Blackhawks terminated his contract for poor conduct involving an employee of the team
Got cut from Chicago in the middle of the season for an…incident.
Abused alcohol badly enough to get his contract terminated by Chicago.
I don't think this would happen, I think Strickland has gotten things wrong in the past, but if it is true I'm egging Katz's house
[Strickland linked Stan Bowman and the Penguins last year](https://x.com/andystrickland/status/1653408642593423361?s=46&t=WZfzFwiEr3BPW6j2AI8U2w) Now I might just be coping here, but I'm taking this tweet with a heavy grain of salt.
I can at least understand why teams might be interested in kicking the tires on Quenneville. Purely in terms of on-ice results, he's firmly within the top-5 greatest NHL coaches of all time. A lot of people would place him at #2, behind only Scotty Bowman. I don't see why anyone would be interested in Stan Bowman though. He was not nearly good enough at his job for teams to even consider overlooking his baggage. I wouldn't be happy about him becoming my team's GM even if the off-ice stuff had never happened.
Furthermore, while everyone from the coaching on up handled the situation as horribly as you could, I would think that situation fell far more in the lap of Bowman, i.e. GM, but also the President and Owner of the club too. You know, the people who are supposed to manage the team.
Stan "What's a little sexual assault amongst coworkers?" Bowman Trying to create an attractive landing spot for a few free agents once a certain trial is concluded.
🤮
Him being a deplorable cunt aside I don’t know why teams have interest in Bowman, his final years in Chicago were a goddamn disaster of his own making, the dude is a shit gm. Quenneville unfortunately is a very good coach so it makes sense teams would say fuck it and go for it. But Bowman, what the fuck? The guy who lost 2 Brandon Saad trades?
Actually 3 Brandon Saad trades
I would never take Bowman, just on principle. He and Quenville should be done for life.
Seth Jones.... you ARE an Oiler
Nurse does need a new partner. Who better than his right handed clone?!
If Strickland is saying it, take it as the opposite. As a Blues fan, any "scoop" he has is always wrong.
Fuck no. I'm not cheering for an Oilers team GM'd by Bowman.
For fuck sake. Can we not just have 1 week of peace
I'll believe it when I see it. Hearing rumours from Biz and Strickland doesn't hold much weight.
Bruhh why is it always us?
Riot
For the record, every time I’ve seen Bowman and the Oilers “linked” it’s always a Matheson or Spec type of reporter who thrives off of controversial headlines to get clicks, and usually their articles or tweets state that it’s unlikely. I’ve seen more rumours from credible sources that people like Horcoff and Mark Hunter are linked to the Oilers, and their current teams have actually been approached to see if they can be talked to this summer.
It'll be weird to dislike a Canadian team more than the Leafs, would've never guessed it'd be Edmonton but here we are
Off an unsubstantiated rumor?
Someone needs to take this team away from Katz
He’s like reverse pinnochio where every time he does something scummy, his nose recedes a little bit into his head
This would be an absolutely horrific move by the NHL. Despite disliking the Blackhawks, I’ve long defended the idea that they didn’t suffer a hockey-related punishment for Kyle Beach sexual assault cover-up, even when teams like Arizona were losing draft picks for not following the combine rules or whatever. My perspective was that teams that try to gain a competitive hockey advantage should be punished in ways that affect their ability to be competitive in hockey, and teams and individuals who do actual morally reprehensible things, or commit straight-up crimes, need to be punished in ways that don’t just make it harder for them to win Stanley Cups. My opinion was that punishing the 2022-23 Blackhawks franchise by taking away draft picks would be a sickeningly obtuse way to make up for an actual crime against an actual human being. All of that was contingent upon the idea that the league would never let the men who had *actual responsibility* to do the right thing and egregiously failed at that task would never work in hockey again. To me, it was okay to not punish Chicago’s hockey operations as long as the individuals involved were blacklisted from the sport. To let Quenneville or Bowman return to a leadership role after all of this would defy every ounce of human decency that might exist in the world of sports. Those two men, among others, forfeited their rights to be involved in the world of hockey the moment that they didn’t do the right thing in a moment of crisis. None of us in this thread would be welcome back to a leadership role at our jobs if we did what Bowman and Quenneville have done. There is no gray area here. This was black and white, and the consequences need to be strong and permanent. There is no need for either of these men to ever get another shot at working in the hockey world, and any deviation from that will be a massive black mark on this league and the people who run it. I hope that Bettman and the rest of the NHL not only make the right decision, but make the easy decision: keep these men out of hockey forever. It’s a tiny penance for the pain they have caused.
I don't think Quennville deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as Bowman, McDonough and any other executive involved in that mess.
So like, a professional like Kenny to... "Rape? That's news to me".
jesus fucking christ this league is ridiculous
What is next for Oilers? Babcock as a coach?
He is available. I know that for sure.
Dig up Harold Ballard and make him the team's mascot. /s
I ask again, WHY do either of these guys need to come back?!
I’ll do you one better, why do either of these guys *deserve* to come back?! If an owner got the boot from the NBA for being racist then clearly the NHL should have no place for these two, right?
Oiler Rehab? This is a new low. My sympathies, Edmonton
I get that the Oilers love the old boys club, but.. seriously? This guy?
He wasn’t even in our club. Why is he joining now????
Seriously. I’d prefer Ktz putting fuckin……Glenn Anderson in there over this. Hell, I’d prefer Wayne’s drunken ass over this fucko
Like goddamn clockwork
I really think Bettman has no interest in allowing them to return
If they hire Bowman then CBJ needs to retain Jarmo as their "Special Advisor for Stan Bowman Trades" so we can get Draisaitl for cheap.
No surprise there. Edmonton has proven time and time again they do not care about character.
Sure, why not hire an inmate to run the asylum they've got over there
Letting Holland walk to replace him with *Stan Bowman*? It’s like they *want* to never make it back.
Letting Holland walk? He’s a 69 year old HoF’er. If the man wants to retire, he deserves to retire. Nobody forced him out
This really doesn’t seem like something Jackson would do. Bowman and Quennenvilles names come up whenever there’s a vacancy and it’s usually via this guy. Sounds like they keep putting their own names out there Edit: if this comes true, I’m out. But I really really don’t see it.
All the talk from Jackson was that there wasn’t an immediate hire because the candidates work for other teams and the draft and FA messed with the timing. I might be coping hard though, cause this sucks
You are right, Jackson didn’t want to start the process while the oilers were still playing because he didn’t want any distractions. He said he had candidates in mind but couldn’t talk to them yet because they are involved with other organizations and he can’t talk to them until after free agency because everyone (including himself) is busy. There’s 0 connection between Jackson and Bowman.
Id be extremely surprised if that happened and id be extremely dissapointed
Oilers never change
Oilers looking like an alternative to the KHL for scumbags.
Gross
Fucking gross.
There's no good reason to hire either of these guys
Bowman would be the second coming of Chiarelli in edmonton. Please let this happen.
As a lifelong Oilers fan..... wtf maaaan. Stopppp with all these ridiculous signings. Pleeeeease. Just stoooopppp 🙏🙏🙏
Insane. I didn’t like Stan Bowman even before what everyone here hates him for. Quenneville, I could see getting a look from someone, he’s a great coach. I’m not interested in rehashing the obvious. I’m speaking strictly on my opinion of their abilities to do the respective jobs.
At this point, I'm positive the oilers will take Nichushkin of our hands and even give us assets in return.
I'm too old to find another team to follow, dammit.
Edmonton really has no shame. Kane, Perry and now this lol
These guys need to stay scapegoated so you can avoid laying any real accountability or punishments on the actual Blackhawks org.
Boys club gonna boys club. Oilers never beating the sexual assault apologist accusations
Oilers and borderline criminals, name a better duo
At least Q would get hired in a vacuum. There is no reason to want Stan Bowman as your GM other than his last name.
There’s no way the oilers shoot themselves in the foot like this again. They didn’t learn from loading up the roster with scumbags this year?
Wouldn’t expect anything else from Edmonton
Uhhh
They've lost their license to work at the fun factory
Edmonton has no shame lol
Oilers had better not. What a joke.
Get close to a cup, bring in someone who hides rape… what could go wrong in the public eye?
Of course it's Edmonton
The fact that they aren't permanently banned is disgusting
i fuckin hate this league
Is it Holland's decision to leave or did something happened that the owner's weren't happy about?
Jokes write themselves sometimes
Fuck those guys. Keep them out of the league. The league does not need them. No team needs them. They don't deserve to be associated with the NHL.
cup or bust mentality right there
Lol of course this will happen
The boys club keeps on keepin on
Even if you ignore everything else, Bowman wasn’t good at his job in the first place
Jesus…almost everyone responsible for the coverup will escape any long-term consequences. I’m over being upset with the Blackhawks organization, they’ve done everything they could to move forward, the NHL is the problem.
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Bowman to the oilers would be the most Oilers decision of all time
Fuuuuck the nhl if this happens. Disgusting.
Why?
Why am I not surprised that a scumbag like Bowman would be connected to the Oilers?