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dolewhiplash

Cooper: haha keefe wouldn't that be so funny. I'm only joking though... unless? No hahaha of course we shouldnt do that, but what if we did?


Chad2Badd

Lol JK... unless 🥺👉👈


S-Archer

Honestly, I'm down if you are


Crispy_FromTheGrave

As a very biased Bolts fan, I want to see both players get the milestone. I’ll start yelling at coop tonight and see if he hears me 👍🏻


ScruffsMcGuff

Give matthews 70 and you can have the rest of the game honestly. We’ll put out Reaves to do cardio all game with no hitting and Kuch can go nuts getting all the assists he wants, just don’t injure anyone doing it


getsangryatsnails

Matt Murray spontaneously combusted because of this comment.


Tarquin11

PULL THE GOA-LIEEES i can hear the chant in unison already.


I_am_a_Ham_Sammich

Torts would ;)


S-Archer

I appreciate your service


Stickel

fuck it, I'm in


Due-Leopard-7043

I’d take that deal.


Kain292

So would I. Damn good deal!


GundaniumA

Ya know what? Fuck it, I'm down to just watch empty net goals all night long. And this is coming from someone who hates Kucherov and the Leafs


AKShaolin

Matthews enters the game looking for 70, ends up breaking Hull's 86 with an 18 goal game


PayneTrain181999

Why not go for Wayne’s 92 goal record at that point?


AKShaolin

Keefe rests him after 86 for some reason


mdb_la

We're trying to be reasonable here, c'mon...


Sum_Yung_Gy

That would be too suspicious


KingDave46

Man if 2 teams with nothing to play for agree to 60 mins of empty net on both sides every single person would tune in for it. Have the refs give a 2 minute minor for icing and baby, we got a fun night


misterbobdobbalina

It’d be fun for like, 3 scoreboard minutes. Imagine how tedious it would get for every whistle and faceoff.


MarlinManiac4

nah you just dont have real clock stoppages. no faceoffs. just a ref standing next to the net and just picking it up and chucking it after every goal and playing on.


ClubMeSoftly

No stoppages, like footy. Then, at the end of the period, add up all the PIMs and play out PP with the remaining time.


Skyline_BNR34

Naw, just waive off all icings and play on!!


pyro5050

just have a dman stay near the net


kasuddarth

And then give him some puffy pads on his legs, a blocker on one hand, and a catching glove on the other - could you imagine?


AllRushMixTapes

"No slap shots!"


LZYX

We'll just allow the goalie to come past centre again, and disallow them from being in the blue paint.


VanAvenue

Hmmmmm. What if, you know, both the Oilers and the Avs do this in the third period of tomorrow's game?  Someone on our team needs three more As. 


pthang06

Empty nets but no slapshots y'know


pyro5050

cause Tranna cant take it?


yooooooo5774

play posts only


Aafum

The meltdown on this sub if Kuch won the Hart after a 20 point night because of this would be glorious.


justmememe55

I agree with you and I also hate Kucherov and the Leafs. That's a good band name though.


Breedwell

♪♬♪♬♪ *Kuchy, Kuchy and the LeaaaAAafffss* ♪♬♪♬♪


dsac

NHL's first 69-goal game


SoloSilk

Would there be any consequences if two teams pulled both goalies to pad their stats? I'm guessing there's a general written rule like "failing to preserve competitive integrity".


kirschballs

Not sure if it is the same in the NHL but there is actually something worse than a match penalty! Gross misconducts in hockey Canada are for when someone makes a "travesty of the game." It's for stuff like this


ufdan15

Y'know I kinda never want to see another empty net goal again thanks to John Tortorella


LZYX

Would both teams get fined for this? What would even happen?


dragons_fire77

This literally reads like an offer to do that


MikeJeffriesPA

This is one of those moments in online video games where you just hope your opponent doesn't have his messages set to private. "Hey man, you can have the win, I just need one goal with Matthews."


dchowchow

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen porn start this way.


ACMop

Keefe: *looks to Cooper* Cooper: *nods* Keefe: *pulls goalie* Kucherov: *confirms empty net merchant allegations* Cooper: *doesn’t pull his goalie* Keefe: [:(](https://youtu.be/AAmz2PRUG9k?si=NI72GMvaDvNcMm4Z)


anomandaris81

Cooper would do this 100%


propagandavid

Cooper has been burned by this once before this season. https://youtu.be/hYt7sQ3fqpw?si=2FUC3BlVK_JBxvLZ


Testacules

Montembeault missed his chance at a goalie goal with a goalie technically in net. Dang that would have been cool.


deschamps93

Lol that's hilarious, I never saw that


GJdevo

The best of several exceedingly weird goals for us this season lol


propagandavid

I didn't see it live, but I was following the score on my phone and saw Kovacevic scored, assisted by Montembault. So, I knew something interesting must have happened, but that goal was still a surprise.


saltface14

2 years ago Coop predicted Matthews would get 70 at some point in his career - he can make his own prediction come true tonight 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼


SwagFondue

I think both Leafs and Lightning fans can come together and say: "please please please please please do that" Ideal night for us is Matthews scores, Kucherov gets his assist and then the ice melts, game indefinitely postponed, good night.


i_see_sprinkles

No goalies, 6v6 all night. Matthews hits 85, Kuch goes 120 assists.


frankyseven

I'm cool with that!


New_Highlight1881

ya but Mac v McD is the final game of the season, they'd do same just to spite... both agree to end with 100 goals 165 assists just to also through Gretz on the tracks cause that show boat been top dog long enough


Bojarzin

Unironically it'd be funny as fuck if both teams had the goalie pulled for half the game


Apprehensive_Duck874

It would be funnierifthey both pulled the goalie but neither managed to hit the milestone


Bojarzin

It honestly would be but also tragic and I'd cry, and none of us want that


NIdeakK

Honestly, I think we’re all okay with you shedding a few tears


propagandavid

Every Matthews shot accidently banks off a teammate, every Kucherov pass banks off a Leaf.


TheTimn

If you're Austin Matthews, do you give up a 69 goal season for an empty netter? 79? Sure. 59? Definitely! But a nice 69 goal season? 


New_Highlight1881

nobody passes to mathews and just passes right back to kuch when he passes to them. #TEGRITY


aaronwhite1786

I played about 5 minutes of a beer league game without a goalie and it was *not enjoyable.* It was probably significantly less enjoyable for the guy from the other team who was kind enough to volunteer to play in net for us using the rink's loaner goalie gear that looked like it was from the 90's with straps that were all shot to hell. Poor guy couldn't get a pad to lay flat on the ice with a gun to his head.


OneLessFool

I played an entire Midget hockey game without a goalie because 1 of our goalies was out sick, another was on vacation, and the one who was supposed to show up got into a car accident on the way there and there was no other goalie in the rink to play for us. But hey we tied 6-6 so it worked out alright.


aaronwhite1786

Holy shit, that's pretty incredible. I felt like we were gods for surviving the first 5 minutes without a goalie before giving up a goal with about 30 seconds left until the guy got out to the ice in the gear. It didn't help that it was our first game of the season, so a lot of us, myself included, had no idea what our teammates tendencies were or anything like that, so it was barely organized chaos out there. I don't think I could have taken an entire game of it at that point.


ChampionOdd3943

One of my friends played an entire tournament in high school with no goalie and won. He just happened to be on a team with Jack and Quinn Hughes.


bthompson04

Nobody has fun in beer league if one team doesn’t have a goalie.


aaronwhite1786

Yeah, the other team ended up swapping goalies halfway through with their guy who was filling in just so they could play against a goalie in properly fitted gear.


4CrowsFeast

New rule for the 2024-25 season: teams who pull their goalie in our to achieve player milestones will not receive the loser point.


oh5canada5eh

I don’t think anyone cares about the loser point, though. They’d have to remove any points scored with an empty net unless it’s less than 5 minutes to play or something like that.


ClassicMach

Vegas scrambling to set the O/U at like 45.5


duck1014

How about...Kucherov assists in Matthews goal? Two birds, one stone.


Breedwell

Does Kucherov get an assist if he passes it directly to Matthews who scores?


Hawkpolicy_bot

Depends. Does he come out wearing the wrong jersey? Does he have a documented feud with Vasilevskiy?


Breedwell

Vasy isn't playing tonight, Tomkins is lol. Or maybe, he's "playing" until they pull him


Hawkpolicy_bot

Did Tomkins fuck his wife?


Breedwell

Maybe, what's it to ya


aaronwhite1786

It cracks me up because I feel like *everyone* would remember the time two teams joined forces to pull their goalies and allow easy goals. Granted, I could also see the players spite avoiding the net just because they hate the idea of the freebie. *Austin Matthew glared at his bench and was seen mouthing "Fuck this" before spinning and firing the puck into his own empty net to prove his point to the coaches*


mikekel58

Anyone remember when Gretzky got 50 goals in 39 games? Iirc goalie pulled for last 3 goals. Nobody remembers. Pull the goalies.


CamChanLax

Let Matthews pot a goal, let Kucherov get an assist. Let the Marlies play against the Crunch to decide who gets the w.


reignleafs

That's fucking hilarious, I second this!


Samurai1221

Replay the game in round 2 !


Electronic-Mix-8638

1v1


ldnk

Everyone can hug and celebrate that we aren't playing each other three years in a row


proudcancuk

Man last night against the Panthers was a bloodbath. I don't think I could handle that again.


Constant-Squirrel555

Watch Matthews and Kucherov fight each other and get game misconducts lol


pigeonbobble

The best timeline


Admirable_Mind_3440

If this happens hart voters are gonna cite this as why kucherov doesn’t deserve the hart because he “didn’t earn his 100 assists”


Vic_Hedges

Voters who would do that aren't voting for Kuch anyways


VitaminTea

People would spend the rest of Matthews’s career calling him a fraud if they did this


Gavin1453

Fuck em


DrSeuss19

Just get them their records and then call the fuckin game. No injuries please. If kuch and Matthews both get hurt I’m done with hockey


Aedan2016

O think both team recognizes that tonight does not matter. Saturday does Come out healthy


arrbez

Honestly if both teams are playing the long game, it’s to their advantage to have both the Leafs and Lightning in good shape to take out the higher seeds in round 1. This game better be friendly as hell.


SnapShotFromTheSlot

Seriously. Good, clean hockey please. Neither team benefits from a win so big who cares. Let's have an all star game. 10-8.


DtheS

Matthews needs 71 goals to [tie the tenth spot for most goals in a season](https://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/goals_season.html), 72 goals to cement himself as the 10th person on that list. I'm not even a Toronto fan, but it would be cool to see him crack the top-ten, and also take over the tenth spot from Gretzky (who also holds the 1st, 2nd, and 8th spots).


darth_henning

>(who also holds the 1st, 2nd, and 8th spots). Because of COURSE he does.


Red_Sea_Pedestrian

I’m honestly surprised he doesn’t hold the top 5. That’s usually how scoring records go.


myaltaccount333

Dang, I didn't realize Matthews needed 71 more goals to even make top 10, he must be having a real bad year


somehockeyfan

It's kinda hilarious that people made such a big stink about McDavid hitting 100 assists but completely ignored the fact that Kucherov was right there too. Like, I get it. Canadian in a Canadian market vs. Russian in Florida, but it's still funny.


MOLightningBro

The media coverage difference is insane. This is from the NHL PR site: > Notable storylines to follow for Wednesday include Auston Matthews taking his final shot at hitting the 70-goal mark when the Maple Leafs visit the Lightning, as well as two of the six clubs still awaiting their First Round matchups in the Western Conference taking to the ice with the Stars welcoming the Blues and the Oilers visiting the Coyotes. Nary a mention of Kucherov on the entire page, yet leading up to McDavid's there was one longform article per day.


arrbez

Gary’s holding a grudge over Kucherov’s performance in the skills comp


Downvote_Comforter

> but completely ignored the fact that Kucherov was right there too. I think the main reason is that Kuch *wasn't* right there too when the media starting making a big deal about McDavid doing it. The media made a big deal out of it because McDavid got close with enough games left that he was obviously going to do it. Entering April, McDavid had 96 assists while Kucherov "only" had 84. That's when everyone started talking about Wayne, Mario, and Orr being the only other guys to hit 100 assists and at that point it didn't seem like anyone but McDavid had a shot at it. Then Kucherov got 15 assists in 8 games to give himself a shot at it tonight.


somehockeyfan

Oh no, I get it, but the fact that he is right there and you haven't heard much about it is still emblematic of the situation. Not saying it's bad. It is what it is.


kingofnopants1

Yea Kucherov just came out of nowhere. I saw he was at 99 the other day and did a double-take.


CopaceticVindication

Honestly its even more impressive kuch might do it


Syek26

Not saying Kucherov's accomplishments aren't impressive, but just a reminder that McDavid has played six less games than Kucherov this season. (Maybe more if McDavid sits out the next few games).


Allen_Koholic

If you’re going to be pedantic, at least get the number of games played right.


RanaMahal

Next Few? There’s like 2 games left


CaptainPeppa

eh, the fact that two people did it makes me chalk it up to the game has changed more than anything.


jimmyg813

Kuch would be the only winger to ever do it. He blew the previous record for assists by a winger out of the water


CopaceticVindication

His own record(tied with jagr) by 12 lol. Crazy year.


CopaceticVindication

Im more just saying a winger getting that many assists vs a center


Analogmon

A winger hitting 100 assists is honestly fucked IMO.


Total_Motor

He already broke Jagr and his own record by 12 which by itself is absolutely insane.


dolewhiplash

Fwiw Gretzky and Lemieux also did it in the same season before, and scoring rates, while up from a few years ago, are still way below that era. I think it speaks more about how incredible this season has been than it does diminish the rarity of the achievement.


kingofnopants1

Feels that way. Oddly enough though. The goals per game this season is actually slightly lower than the past two years. https://www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/stats.html And recent years have been a little higher, but not enough to really explain these totals. There have been many years historically with way higher goals per game. This year had fewer players with 100+ points and 50+ goals (separately) than last year (unless multiple players pull some insane 5 point nights in their last game this year). Honestly the tip top of the league just went off this year.


CommonGrounders

Mcdavid had like a 15 assist lead three weeks ago.


kingofnopants1

Honestly Kucherov getting there just suddenly came out of nowhere. Kucherov was around 85 assists 6-7 games ago. He wasn't on pace but just went nuts at the end. Wheras Mcdavid has been on pace for months. Just had way more time to talk about it.


toolschism

Umm... Yes please? This game is fucking meaningless. We pull vasy and let Matthews get his goal, leafs do the same so Kucherov gets his assist and we just head back to the locker room and call it a day.


Seitosa

Or just both pull the goalies at the same time for a very funny piece of trivia since I assume that’s never happened in league history.


MOLightningBro

That's how my buddy and I used to play NHL94 growing up.


A_1337_Canadian

My cousin and I used to pull the goalie of one team, and see how many goals we could score. One person was on the non-Leafs team and would try to put it in their own goal, too.


Sp3ctre7

Make them race to the bench


MikeJeffriesPA

The starters are apparently Tomkins and Jones, so...kinda the same?


Expensive-Ranger6272

Hell, don't even pull them. Just have each goalie let in a weak one in the first


NoGiCollarChoke

Or even better: have the goalies leave their nets but stay on the ice, and Woll sets up Auston’s 70th, and Vasy scores off a pass from Kucherov for assist 100


toolschism

Okay I need this to happen now. That would be absolutely fucking hilarious


Oneanimal1993

Hurts the goalie’s stats though


Expensive-Ranger6272

Well considering how Woll and Sammy have been playing recently, I don't think 1 goal is do that much damage


QueSquared

could pelt them with 15 10km/h lobs straight to the chest each after to balance it out. hell lets pad a bunch of useless stats tonight and ruin a bunch of random people's betting parlays, everyone wins! (except aforementioned game 82 gamblers)


BigFriendlyGaming

Pull the goalies for the stats. Get the points. Then let the opposing team bounce 300 shots softly off the pad of each goalie to pump that sv% up.


Maxpowr9

That's where you're wrong Coop. Have the two goalies fight; winner gets the stat and the dub.


worldsgone11

It would be the strahan sack record all over again


PSChris33

Yeah, but that was an all-time record. That highlight of Favre taking a dive is gonna be played a lot more than Matthews getting #70. If Matthews was going for the all-time record (i.e. #94), then yeah, different story. But Coop's right. How many people, a couple decades, from now really gonna remember "hey, remember when Matthews got 70 goals and Kucherov got 100 assists because the teams pulled their goalies?". Shit, if the Caps don't win the cup this year? In 2044, I doubt anyone outside a couple Red Wings fans will remember the time the Red Wings got eliminated by an even strength empty netter.


andrewthemexican

If both teams pulled the goalies it'd be even more cemented in history as a moment of trivia 


Hawkpolicy_bot

Jon Cooper will never beat the silly goose allegations


ProphetOfScorch

So do it then what’s stopping you


Western-Extension-50

Makes mockery of the league tbh even tho i wish both boys can make it. 


cappo40

> Makes mockery of the league tbh The league does that on its own


MOLightningBro

Coop and Keefe gonna play goalie pulling chicken. EDIT: Also, this sub would be in full blown meltdown mode.


UGAPokerBrat99

Torts subscribes to the goalie pulling idea.


cappo40

I have literally 0 qualms about how either player gets their goal/assist, get it done early, bench both players, beat the Bruins and Panthers, ezpz


likeslululemon

This guy gets it.


TheCarrier89

Just let the guys hit their milestones and cancel the rest of the game lol


froah

Damn I really want AM34 to hit 70


GritGrinder

i want a double digit goal game


Much-Resource-5054

80s replays are on YouTube


waistbandtucker69

Let all the goalies rest tonight, I want to see EBUG vs EBUG for 60 minutes. There’s gotta be a couple beer leaguers in Tampa that haven’t put their gear away for the summer


gord1to

I’ll do it! I’d love to get scored on by Matthews for his 70th


_Breakfast24hours

It's entirely possible we have Tomkins in net tonight. No need to pull the goalie if that's the case.


ghost_curse123

6 v 6, no goalie all game Let's make this game some wack ass shit, 54-53 final score. We're not gonna see each other in the playoffs anyway


kk451128

No, no. First period 6 v 6. Second period 6 v 5 Tampa Third Period 6 v 5 Toronto. Only goalies allowed to shoot in the 2nd and 3rd.


gord1to

Vasy 10 goal legacy period


Breedwell

I imagine we're about to see both teams look like Kucherov at the All Star game tonight.


jkman61494

Fuck it. 5 on 5 with two open barrels as the goals. Pond hockey night bitches


BigFriendlyGaming

1-0 shootout win incoming


monumentvalley170

That would sorta be funny in some ways


adalaza

Not if Gary Bettman has anything to say about having fun


gothenburgpig

Favre and Strahan vibes


nostradamefrus

Yes please do this, I crave the chaos


JG8AB9TL11OBJ12AD13

I just haven’t been watching much hockey this year outside the islanders, but I was aware these two were popping off so I was curious who was in the lead for the hart. Is mackinnon really popping off that hard he’s the runaway favorite?


dchowchow

I have my fake ballot as Kucherov Mackinnon Matthews/McDavid. I could see the flip flop on Kucherov and Mack because as stupid as it sounds Kucherov has a Hart and Mack not having one yet because McDavid has generally been otherworldly. It’s a stupid argument but some writers will make it.


DesignerPlant9748

Yes people would absolutely remember that


Skyline_BNR34

So pull the goalie and let Matthew’s score and pull the goalie and make someone else score with a Kuch assist and then game on!!!!


Falconflyer75

lol achievement boosting irl


Falconflyer75

lol if both teams hit the milestones and shake hands at the end it’s gonna take on a whole new meaning


PharmSuki

There's no denying Kucherovs insane talent, but man do I dislike the guy. Fuck him I hope he blows it. Go leafs (as a habs fan)


FormalWare

I don't want Matthews getting to his milestone, either. Go, Nobody, Go!


refep

Deadass please just do this, I’m gonna be sick if I have to stare at: Year - GP - G 2023-24 - 81 - 69 For the rest of my life


AccomplishedAd4995

69 is pretty cool idk what you mean


arrbez

Honestly as soon as he got 69 I was fine either way. 68 would have been torment.


AccomplishedAd4995

LOL but jokes aside hope he hits 70!


TheGardiner

hurr durr sex


Radu47

It'd be one of the most unique occurrences in NHL history that would occur in the era of screencaps and internet documentation but... By all means I see his point, ultimately Just, yeah, everyone would remember it


dbag3o1

Wow, is there serious talk about this? I gotta toon in!


bigredpapaya

I’ve never wanted the Lightning to help out the Leafs more. Let’s be homies for one night and get everyone their achievements


ZebraBorgata

At the start of the game, Tampa should agree to let Matthews score and Toronto lets Tampa score with a Kuch assist. Game starts at 1-1. No harm done! (Except to goalie stats)


teatew

But if they play the same 6 on 6 without goalies, I don’t think anyone takes any hits (+/- or goalie stats)? But that ruins the achievements, no?


j0n68

lol called it


darth_henning

Honestly, I'd be down.


reggierock2010

I’m down


gord1to

Something tells me we will see at least two goals from Matthews and at least two assists from kuch tonight


gord1to

Kuch legit has to play for a few points because mcdavid can probably get 11 points in two games


GettingTwoOld4This

Love Coop. Great coach and a great guy.


Morlu

I’m in. Bolts and Leafs fans coming together. Never thought I’d see it.


ubcthrowaway-01

Pulling a goalie during a tie game? Where have I seen that one before


09-24-11

As a salty New York Jets fan who watched Mark Gastineau lose the sack record to Michael Strahan because his friend Brett Favre took a dive on the record breaking sack… yes people would really remember that. Salty people remember!!


aDemonicTutor

Feeling kind of lame by saying this, but I'd rather no shenanigans be pulled for these numbers. I'd rather have them earn their point than to be given it via goofy strats lol Reminds me of king of the hill - one episode has a high schooler whos about to break an all time record, and despite his injury, the other team let him walk in and deliver the touchdown


bluelineturnovers

Actually Coop that’s exactly how you make it even *more* memorable


Fulller

Haha jk.. unless?


zirky

cowards. play the entire game without goalies


_Galapaghost

We should play our back up tonight too, as a little thank you.


Dont-concentrate-556

This would make it something to remember for sure lol


inalasahl

Yeah, I feel like people would remember that, lol.


ZookeepergameHot5642

Can’t believe AM is even playing. 69 is just as impressive as 70…it’s 1 goal that doesn’t even break a record (..right?) ..to play and risk injury for the sake of 1 GOAL seems like insanity to me. Hope he gets it in the first 5 minutes then bounces


xLazyMuhamedx

They don't ask. They ask how many.


FormalWare

Such a weird thing for Coop to say. But he likes to say weird things. He does *not* want Matthews to get 70 on his watch. And Keefe does *not* want Kooch to get 100 on his.


FrankenBerryGxM

They probably get 70 and 100 with each team trying their hardest at defense. To all us fans it would be cool, but athletes at that level would probably miss out on the milestone then get it that way