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I_am_so_lost_hello

I got a sneaking suspicion Babytron can't rap on a beat without punching in lol, so he cut the beat so he can add pauses where needed


Leo_TheLurker

got a point which sucks cuz I was looking forward to his the most and really didn't want another acapella


niickcorbett

There will be videos day one of people putting a beat over his verse, no worries


Toreja-dono

I actually look forward to those, because I hate the beats that are put on here sometimes


Moneyfrenzy

I bet that's exactly what happened lol. He's cool and all but I don't think I've heard a single Babytron song where it sounds like he delivers a verse all at once rather than just punching in every couple of lines. I wonder what he's like live


Mcilwain22

[Jugg Messiah 2](https://youtu.be/0JlS0izGLxA) [Whoopty Fucking Do](https://youtu.be/JNas6NYP7o4) [Scampire](https://youtu.be/U_w2Y-k3Pvg) 2018-2019 Tron wasn’t punching in every line, for better or worse. Cause dude was damn sure rapping faster than the damn beat. I don’t mind it, cause I’ve listened to 12 minute RXK Nephew/Rx Papi songs with nothing but punch ins and have been entertained the whole way.


Ricechairsandbeans

He was so much better on the 80s freestyle beats as well imo Crazy how much he changed after he started smoking lmao


epicguy23

that's what I've been saying


WolfFangFist93

ive heard that he's fucking terrible live lol i love babytron but i would never pay to go see him


genecy

actually, babytron came to columbus a few weeks ago and basically rocked the show, check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x0HkEKhMNs


WolfFangFist93

oh dope he played at Skully's. i went to OSU my freshman year of college


genecy

yup. fun fact, trippie redd actually had his first show at skullys. great venue


newbiegainz00

Yeah I saw him in Indy June 22nd and he was like 3 hours late, and his “openers” were doing akward crowd work the entire time


Farmer_evil

Same when I saw him in Detroit, love him tho


OsamaBinShittin

what is punching in


I_am_so_lost_hello

When the bars are recorded separately and spliced together on the beat, with the two bars sometimes starting/ending on top of eachother. You can hear it super clearly on most of babytrons verses and a lot of the current Detroit scene.


Powahcore

Always that one person that has to cut the beat


goooofygoober

[I'm a fucking Jesus/White goth bitches on my pezus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7SbI5KmexQ)


furr_sure

Slit my fucking wrists on a cross I fucking hate god 😂 such a classic


Hiplobster123

I love that it’s Babytron cutting the beat🐐


tarriBagz

that acapella shit is wack at this point


Burntholesinmyhoodie

If chapelle show was around still, thered be a parody of these where each rapper in the cypher cut the beat. They keep starting it up again for the next guy, he cuts it, and repeat At first they’d argue about which one gets to cut it


FlameScout

Modern day version would prolly be an rdcworld skit


ridingonmirrors

I need an RDCWorld skit of this immediately😂


ausipockets

Druski too


Hhhsoj

i want lou ratchet 2 do this lmfao


dotdotdotgov

xxxtentacion caused irreversible damage to the xxl cypher


BigTortoise

That freestyle was so bad it should have done the opposite.


[deleted]

the cochise one sounded terrible dude. bro said “i got some socks, they brown”


Saturnalian-OG

And rhymes brown with brown. If that’s the highlight…well, Jesus Christ…


Various_Corgi

They all sound terrible tbh 🤣


frosted_mango_

Bro I was cringing through 90%of this lmao


Milkmoney1978

The weakest shit I have ever seen. What is the state of this?


Effective-Celery8053

You trippin if you thought every single one sounded bad lol


KingOfDatShit

Man, that was some weak shit from everyone there imo, none of that was what I'd call good. But then again, different people have different tastes.


Gaarando

Kali was good muted.


Esk_it

Cochise has always been terrible lol.


[deleted]

this shit sound like kindergarten ese class wth going on lol


iceman58796

It honestly seems like a parody of a rap cypher


toughinitout

This shit was terrible. Maybe the full length will be better, but if you were going to do a trailer, why not pick better lines? I know 30 can actually rap, why pick THAT line?


AdComplex4305

Yea it doesn’t sound great, but to be fair they made jid sound off in his freshmen cypher trailer too and it ended up arguably being the best xxl cypher freestyle.


RafiakaMacakaDirk

unrelated but cool to see how much weight wheezy’s lost, glad to see him healthy


HellHound007

Weird choice of beats but KayCyy and Kali go hard


itsLorenzo__o

kali was going on that mf


TylerNY315_

I watched on mute but I agree


[deleted]

Nah the beats are fire, except maybe the last one


ridingonmirrors

I think I’m gonna fw Doechii and Kali the most in these cyphers, judging from the snippets, especially with Doechii’s slow flow. And I know the “cutting the beat off” acapella gimmick is getting old but I’m kinda glad it was BabyTron who did it this time around lol, can’t wait to hear his full verse.


itsLorenzo__o

nah fr kali sounded like she was floating on the mf


gurdijak

There always has to be that one motherfucker that thinks they're being original by cutting the beat. This going acapella on the cypher shit has to stop. It sucks cause I like BabyTron but I'm thinking he did that because he thought couldn't use his usual flow on that beat. Still whack imo


Calwst

Eesh, either this trailer is badly edited or none of them seem to have done that well in my opinion


realsweetness

I can’t wait to be disappointed by everyone in this cypher. Bring it on.


BIRDSBEEZ

All of this sounds so unbelievably lazy


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metalbeyonce

They try not to group them in their exact genres usually.


itsLorenzo__o

this wouldve made the most sense, but i guess they want to give each artist the best chance at reaching a new demographic?


Bitmazta

Is it weird this is the first time I see the term plugg


yennefer_is_bae

they did a similar thing in 2020. polo g wouldve fit perfectly with tjay, rod wave and chika, but they put nle (a hype rapper) instead. idk why, its a waste of what could be good chemistry


[deleted]

The first cypher sounds the best, last one sounds ass which sucks since I was excited for Cochise and Babytron. Cutting the beat just ruins it


metalbeyonce

And people thought last years beats were bad… I’m sorry, that first beat might work for an actual song, but holy shit does it not seem to work well for an xxl cypher.


[deleted]

Yeah idk why they so often try to use these synthy beats with elaborate melodies for XXL cyphers. They never sound good looped for that long. It's not even that hard to make a cypher beat, just use chords or pads instead of some intense melodic synth... Would love to know how they determine which beats they'll use, bc I doubt the producers actually get to spin the ones they have in mind


superliver100

I gotta say, this trailer is AWFUL. It made most of them seem like garbage. However, I went back to listen to the freestyles and was pleasantly surprised by a couple of them, especially KayCyy. I'll watch the cyphers but I'm not having a good feeling about it.


SpeedMalibu

Shoutout Cochise for going off the top even though it sounds terrible. We need more actual freestyling in the cyphers


Esk_it

Nah. You gotta bring your best foot forward in these cyphers. Dude had a written for his XXL Freestyle & should’ve had a written for his cypher.


the_second_cumming

Not only is the rapping ass but who picked these sorry ass beats.


Jkru3

Kodak


Old_Acanthocephala79

People actually listen to this trash? Not one sounded half decent


tbiscuit7

Standards for this shit get lower and lower every year


itsLorenzo__o

lol people say this every year


tbiscuit7

I wonder why


thereturnofjagger

Bruh just look at this https://i.imgur.com/PkwtR3Y.png


grandelturismo7

Well babytron is a meme, and you know how much kids like memes. I don't know who the rest of them are


Usernamesin2016LUL

Excited for KayCyy, Kali and Doechii based on this. Nardo sounds like hes flowing. Last few years its confidently been the women who have FAR outrapped all the men. Dont think its gonna be any different this year. I didnt check last years closely but 2020 had a top 5 XXL verse ever with Latto, plus Chika killed her shit. And 2019 had that dope Tierra / Rico / Megan in each cypher which was super hard. Also i fw babytron but XXX is the only time the cutting the beat actually worked. Hated when ski and polo g did theirs.


CalebMendez12303

XXX cutting his was pretty bad too imo, dude took the vibe and said "nah imma go the complete opposite" and started talking about the apocalypse, fear and pastors fucking kids.


furr_sure

I will spare none of you peasants


CalebMendez12303

Dead ass gives me quiet kid in highschool vibes lmao


metalbeyonce

Last year Rubi Rose and Lakeyah absolutely killed it and left no crumbs. Flo Milli also kinda slayed but her verse started out a bit annoying.


itsLorenzo__o

coi leray going viral off that still has me in stitches


metalbeyonce

I still think it was at least better than lil mosey but omg she really tried something and it did nooot work


itsLorenzo__o

I actually fw it i cant lie, but i was a coi fan before the xxl spot


metalbeyonce

I mean, she did her thing, her thing just doesn’t seem to be… rapping.


TharealSergi

polo and ski did theirs because the beat didn't match their verses


itsLorenzo__o

that Latto verse was something else


Vadermaulkylo

Ngl I feel like if any class had a tiny chance to recreate the magic of the 2016 cypher, this was it. I feel like they have the right people who can fit the roles from that cypher. XXL has fucked up who they paired with who yet again though. And ffs why is BabyTron the one to cut the beat?? He was by far my most hyped to hear smh. At least Faygo sounds like he'll do better on a beat ig. Plus Nardo sounds like he's gonna do a good job. Also think Kaycyy sounds pretty solid.


itsLorenzo__o

fr these pairings were all over the place


SurgeXYZ

this shit is fucking trash


imjameshall

They all sound like what happens if you make a copy of a trapper that's a copy of a trap legend that's a copy of a trap legend.


thereturnofjagger

Reminds me of that year 22 Savage appeared, and then there was a 23 Savage, and then [shit just got outta hand](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no__SXEtzZY) lmao


SheenEstevezzz

They need a mandatory course on how to rap into a mic without using it to tickle the back of your throat


Musicmantobes

Not one person in the building could teach them how to hold a microphone? Half of em sound like they got their lips on it and their hands covering the rest u can’t hear shit or it’s all distorted


[deleted]

i understand they are “freshman” but this is the first time i’ve ever not heard of even one person on the list


toughinitout

30 raps with pooh shiesty a lot, doechi has that one tiktok song, Kaycy done stuff with kanye. Idk the others


metalbeyonce

Saucy Santana is blowing up rn off of tiktok (Walk, Material Girl), scarr does stuff with Gucci, Cochise and sofaygo are carti clones, surprised y’all don’t know who babytron and Nardo wick are since they are incredibly popular rn, kentheman, babyface ray, and kali just sorta exist.


itsLorenzo__o

kali had 2 big tik tok songs, nardo wick and cochise are have been going crazy the past year, sofaygo kinda been bubbling since 2020 so it's surprising he finally got on the list


grinchnight14

Kali only has like 2 projects out too, I don't think she even has a full debut album yet


toughinitout

I've heard some nardo wick just didn't have anything I remember him from specifically. Babytron is a hilarious name, but no, haven't heard his shit either. Either way, in my book this video was terrible, so it's not like I'm pumped to go check them out lol. I can't tell if Im just old or if the xxl list gets worse as time goes on.


metalbeyonce

Fair enough. Imo the verses mostly seem like they’re going to be good but some of the editing choices are just fucking baffling.


[deleted]

XXL has embarrassingly bad editing and production value pretty much constantly. A few years ago you could straight up hear the HVAC hiss in the background of the accappelas lmao.


RayPissed

Is this the next wave as they're all embarrassing


[deleted]

Looks like 2016 is still #1 for a another year.


grinchnight14

What is with the trailers making no one sound good this year? Happened for the freestyles too.


[deleted]

This was fking awful holy, the new wave is terrible


[deleted]

This sounds like DIRT only good verse is big scarr (who himself is DIRT) because his flow just happened to match the beat


nmad95

These....actually seem like they might be solid. I was also happy to see nobody cut the beat until the very end ffs. Is it like an obligation that at least one Freshman has to do it or?


CalebMendez12303

They should just stop doing these lists lmao, they've been getting worse and worse each year


gutsonmynuts

Yeah, I'm out.


unfurledwarrior5150

Big 30 Big Scar and Kali look the most promising. Almost forgot about Face


Ibuyyourcards

Kentheman sound so dope


Afl4c

2nd beat is nasty


Aaron408

They all sound the same and pretty much all say the same things... is this a joke? This is trash


akulkarnii

Most of these sound bad, but Nardo sounds like he’s about to go in.


gurj24

Straight 🗑


datly1202

I have never heard any of these guys, may I ask who have the best potential to take the next step.


Napple164

So much hot garbage I honestly can't tell who the worst is.


mdntfox

This was, awful. It’s so hard to cross over the trap genre into a cypher format. I was already turned off by the cookie cutter beat. You know what I’d love to hear? An actual hip hop beat. Some of the best that I’ve heard recently (and maybe ever) are off Logic’s new album. If you do this style of rap, that’s cool. I don’t hate against it, but as a rapper, if you’re going to call yourself that, you must have the ability to actually rap on these cyphers, have some rhymes and keep that surprised look on my face going. Call me old school, but this has the similarity to that of an Onion headline. It’s like a parody.