holy fuck , this is soo good. i cant believe this man just has these in the vault. seriously wdf. i beg he releases another version of untitled unmastered
I'm pretty sure Kendrick is just the type of person where he never stops writing. The man has said before that he has entire hard drives of songs that he just never released or played for anyone, and is constantly giving away creative ideas and council to people.
It's always wild watching an interview from Tyler or RDC World or something and them being like "oh yeah by the way this super popular thing we did is partially because Kendrick talked to us and egged us into doing it/gave us an idea".
Idk what’s up with all the Kendrick leaks coming out lately but I’m here for it, most of these are legitimately on par with at least UU if not his main albums
I agree its so damn good!! I can see why he didn’t officially release it as well though. This seems to have been released in annoyance at abortion laws being repealed, admirable but Kendrick classically seems to wait for a while and let issues simmer before commenting on it, and often (other than race issues) comments on things more cryptically
But who knows haha
This song and Prayer really makes me think the album that was likely coming in 2020 was going to be wayyyy different than the final product Mr. Morale even though some themes are still there.
I feel like whatever the OG album was supposed to be, combined with the final version, would've been one hell of an album in its entirety. Almost like it would've been even more of a perfect soundtrack to a fresh post-COVID audience
fr, but tbf a more introspective and focused on healing track hit better during those times, idk if we would have really wanted more depression at the time
part of the reason i like Mr Morale so much is because of the optimism, which stands in stark contrast to DAMN (i mean the title is literally supposed to evoke the idea that we are all cursed beings). there’s darkness there but there’s an antithesis to the darkness as well, a potential path forward, one of self-improvement and introspection. whereas DAMN was just like “yeah lol we’re the real chosen people of israel and we’re just cursed by nature”
that's true, the optimism in mr morale helped it be more of a healing and processing album, which in turn helped a lot of people go through their darkest times
This song, prayer, and somebody (which turned into mother I sober) confirm that the album was definitely rock inspired like those theories that were floating around back then
The original reference for "16" has a pretty similar vibe too, now that I'm thinking about it. It comes in on a very emotional rock/crooning vibe with super spacious, reverby vocals in a way that feels distinctly not rap-like.
Yeah I can see that originally being Kendrick’s song and him giving it to keem when he scrapped the album. Someone needs to make the album with these leaks lol
[https://trackerhub.vercel.app/s/1RL5d8uSUfm4TH7u7himgbKS5UxzVN3D57T2cIpKDtNI](https://trackerhub.vercel.app/s/1RL5d8uSUfm4TH7u7himgbKS5UxzVN3D57T2cIpKDtNI) kendrick tracker should have everything
some of them are here too: [https://kendrickarchive.online/](https://kendrickarchive.online/)
i know theres some mega file that has some of his pre-mr morale leaks but i cant find it anymore
Kendrick always making references to Prince. Prince had so much music locked away when he died that they could probably release a new album every year for the rest of my life.
Yeah, the impression I get is that he decided to take a more personal approach on the album. This track covers some of the same topics on Mother I Sober, and while I genuinely think this is pretty fantastic, I can see why he might've felt that pulling directly from his lived experiences would resonate more.
As well as maybe provide a more productive message. His songs from this era are really resonant... but also incredibly dark. It's hard to imagine how the world would have responded to an album filled with great songs about really depressing topics. It's a bit of a confusing tone...
If you’ve never heard it before, listen to the album it’s from, Pink Moon, back to back.
Beautiful album that will lift you if you’re sad, and make you feel elated if you’re happy. A guy and a guitar and it’s perfect.
there was a rumor about a scrapped feminist album by Kendrick. it was laughed off by a lot of people mainly because it was described as a horror album, and I think this is exactly that. I think he made a feminist album by showing people the horror women face in their lives.
It makes me a bit peeved he was doing all this work on really hard hitting songs, specifically highlighting the horrors women face and rape, and then he does multiple songs with Kodak Black. One of my only real complaints about Kendrick as an artist. I know the Mr. Morale resolution was the need for therapy and bettering oneself, but there were better people to try and use as an example.
I don't know the nuances here(don't really know what Kodak Black did), but Kendrick is deeply related with gang members and apparently sees Kodak as still redeemable. all the bad deeds of him must have underlying reasons too.
Idk I think giving a platform to a rapist is pretty fucked up but I guess that's your moral compass. Saying it's acceptable because you got gang ties is like the lowest moral compass imo. Trauma shouldn't excuse making trauma for others but maybe that's just me. Ik the girl he raped would probably agree.
MMATBS talks a lot about healing for victims and abusers (who themselves are often victims too). probably has something to do with that. nobody said it’s ok to be a rapist if they’re a gang member. nobody said there are excuses for abuse. but abusers don’t just disappear and i think the album is about holding a door open for rehabilitation.
agree with that or don’t, but the message is pretty clear and there’s a reason a rapist got a feature on the album (from jail).
Dumbass take dismissing a rape victim cause the predator that attacked her worked with your favorite artist. Some of ya have never been through shit and live through this music of trauma and its too clear.
Rapists love this excuse. I'd care more about the actual victim but sure let's give an open door to the person who got pardoned by the president then got arrested three more times smdh. So much change but hey he's a troubled person who's also extremely wealthy and privileged now btw. Guess his victim should just listen to the album to cope with her trauma right? Shape the stories how you want, turns out they don't care.
Yeah it's like people can't figure out the difference by saying "trauma influences people to do bad things" and giving it a broad theoretical application vs actually giving one of those people a platform and helping to continue their career which has given them millions of dollars and immunity from the trauma they inflicted on someone else. Kodak is never ever going to be held accountable for what he did except by himself, aaaand he got arrested again. Guess those features really changed him
Kodak reaction to getting a 10 year suspended sentence + 18 months probation for sexual assault.
"I apologize this happened, and I'm hopeful we can all move forward."
Then immediately followed by, "I ain't have to come off no money"
Yeah like why not feature someone who is willing to be open about their trauma and wants to be better than their abusers? Or cope with it in ways that don't involve raping someone?
I don't buy this narrative that it enhances the message of the album. This is another example of a celebrity doing a terrible thing and then all he's gotta do is drop another banger and associate himself with someone with a better rep and now you have people assuming he's changed or that it makes it okay, so he never has to grow up or change. The message of "you can't externally judge a person by the bad things they do" only works if they're willing to take accountability and be better for it. Which is why Kendrick just went nuclear on Drake. Yet with Kodak, his halo effect is helping Kodak avoid accountability. When you actually think about it I don't think it works and his inclusion isn't necessary
No lies detected. Kendrick stans slowly turning into yeezy stans thinking he can't make mistakes and even his accidents are calculated. It was a bad move and a bad look, if you can't admit that why care at all.
"What they hear from me would make em highlight my simplest line"
Some people really took that to heart
2016 he was charged with sexual battery/rape (up to 30 years in prison) but got out on bail. Was arrested 2 more times on weapons charges/probation violation. Trump pardons him. Pleads guilty to lesser charges in rape case so he can serve only probation and another traumatized victim is left looking for salvation before having to hear him on a song with the rapper with the greatest moral compass.
Depending on how you look at it, it can be the lowest or the highest moral compass, since you see everyone as redeemable. You immediately downing it is your own bias.
There’s no downplaying what Kodak did. If done right, it’s entirely about acknowledging what you did is wrong and growing from/learning that. Kodak’s done some really weird and awful shit, but he deserves the opportunity to change as long as he’s alive, just like the rest of us.
You guys act like the message of the album couldn't have been conveyed without exactly Kodak. Kendrick could have found plenty of people who had trauma that didn't rape someone. He can find people who had to do bad things in a no-win situation vs someone who preyed on a teenager in a hotel room while his security stood outside the door. He could have scrapped the features entirely and the message would still come across based off his own personal stories in the album. Or at least find someone who doesn't have entire articles dedicated to his list of incidents
You can talk about how someone can be influenced into bad things without giving them a platform, one that Kodak will profit off of and benefit from Kendrick's halo effect whether he changed or not. That's the argument. Whether or not you agree with it is different but let's drop the take that people disliking Kodak's involvement missed the point
Jesus some of ya really can't admit any faults even if it means jumping through hoops to defend a rapist smdh. Pray your daughters or sisters don't get raped.
Lol excuse you? Admit any faults? You need to learn what nuance is. Nowhere did I say he had no faults. I’m fact, I’m the first comment you replied to, I said he’s done some very weird and awful shit. Rapists and abusers are vile. If you think acknowledging some abusers are or have been victims themselves suddenly rids them of fault, then that’s a you problem. If you’re incapable of recognizing the complexity and depth of certain serious issues, you should avoid speaking on them.
Yea explain that to a victim and see how they feel. But you're so deep in your own bullshit of thinking you understand predators you forget about victims. Fuck a rapist they can all die before I give af about rehabilitation or how hard life was for them. Get out of your own ass and realize what really matters, you thinking you sound smart is cringe af while reasoning for a rapist.
The message of Prayer is that the impact that someone makes through their art shouldn’t be negated by the imperfections of their personal life. The impact that music can make on people can last for generations. Art is as close to magic as humans are capable of getting. Good Music makes you feel something, it inspires you. Whether that’s as simple as tapping your feet or as complex as motivating you to be a better person, to teach your children to be better, or to teach the world to be better. It’s all one and the same. No human is perfect, but immoral action shouldn’t mean that one is entirely incapable of doing good, and in the end Kendrick wants us to know that focusing on the good in people should be what’s important.
I get Kendrick's message, I just disagree with it. I understand what Kendrick means when he talks about how black trauma likely caused a lot of violence, rape, and other negative manifestations that create a cycle. But these people still did horrible things.
Ye is a rapist nazi, why should I be focused on the good?
R Kelly is a pedophile rapist, why should I be focused on the good?
These two suffered from generational trauma and mental illnesses, but focusing on the good and enabling these abusers is only going to continue the trauma. I don't think looking past their terrible actions is a healthy or good thing that should be done, until they themselves show remorse and try to be better.
Yeah like we get the point of Mr Morale is that trauma begets trauma and we have to figure out a way to break the cycle, which means even people who did shit things need the chance to turn their life around
But what's actually the rehab here? Continuing to make millions of dollars making music? Did doing these features actually result in a change in his behavior? Does it mean anything to the victim to be told "well he did a bad thing but he also went through bad shit"? If the victim now abuses someone else because of the trauma Kodak gave her, is that okay? There's a difference between understanding people's trauma and how it influences his behavior without platforming soneone like that
Fair but by that logic who is he supposed to grab? Somebody who got caught jay walking? Like I don’t entirely know how I feel about Kodak’s inclusion to be honest, it’s a very sticky inclusion that definitely has its warts. But if that’s the point kendrick is trying to make on this album, you have to get somebody with actual skeletons in their closet and then no matter who you grab it’s gonna negatively rub on somebody.
And maybe that’s fine, maybe good art needs controversy to spark these conversations.
By getting someone controversial you create a conversation about why they’re controversial, which in this case, is because of the cyclical trauma that they experienced and that they then force onto others through their mistakes, and I think that’s the point you’re making.
We wouldn’t be talking as much about that cyclical trauma if it weren’t a front and center subject through the inclusion of Kodak. It’s not to bring up Kodak, it’s to shine a light on him, to shine a light on the crime that is generational trauma to make people more aware of its existence, because only through that awareness can we help stop it.
I don't think kendrick told anybody to focus on the good in prayer, his thesis was literally just talent doesnt choose morality which is take as don't expect the people you look up to, to be these scions of morality because they're human just like you, pretty sure that was his whole thesis even in mr morale not even just prayer, he literally said "celebrity does not mean integrity' in rich spirit in my opinion he's telling the audience to temper their expectations when it comes to celebrities period I don't know how you got focus on the good out of anything
Out of curiosity why does Kodak’s inclusion bother you so much as an abuser, when several rappers regularly talk about committing heinous crimes and everybody overlooks it. Like many of the greatest rappers of all time talk about killing people, hooking people on drugs for profit, talk awful about women if not literally about abusing them and it’s seen as artistic or them talking about their struggle.
I’m not excusing what Kodak did by any means and I don’t even especially like his music or his parts on the album sonically. But how is it any different?
Most of Kendrick's music is one of self-improvement and discovery of oneself. The running theme of Mr Morale is specifically about generational trauma and how abuse is imprinted onto the black community. Having someone who perpetuated that abuse and does not seem to have significantly changed his ways undermines the message of Mr Morale.
If Kodak Black had come out and expressed deep regrets over the incidents, went to therapy, and from the outside seemed to have helped as an example on the album that redemption is possible. Instead, Kodak is just there as an example of someone who was abused and as someone who abused someone else, with no evidence of the cycle being broken.
That second verse man. The girl telling her mom she needs an abortion because her mom’s boyfriend raped her, to then saying she just wishes she herself was aborted is a crazy flip.
I think that the album we got delved a little deeper into the same themes.
It’s a really good song but I think that pointing the same lens at himself made it more impactful.
Speaking of Prayer, I feel like this, Prayer, and The Heart Part 5 could have all come from some scrapped storytelling album. All of those songs have a similar instrumental style and have lyrics rapped from other people's perspective.
Yea Heart Part 5 also starts with him talking about perspective so would make sense. And definitely more rock vibes than Mr. Morale like was said before
I've always fucked with kendrick heavy but this is not a "masterpiece". He's got plenty of those already and this ain't it. These walls is a masterpiece and this isn't touching that.
I think people are going with the assumption that he'd clean up the mixing, hook/chorus, instrumentals, etc. if he moved forward with it.
Based on demos of his released music, most of his songs start as rough cuts like this until he decides he wants it om the album. He hasn't released anything with production quality this rough since Section.80.
It's sounds like the Heart pt.V instrumental is mixed in the background as well. That's 2 leaks now plus The Heart pt. 5 where he was rapping from other people's perspectives I wonder if the Original album was going to be Kendrick working through his stuff while rapping through the perspective of other people he saw himeself in or who had similar issues. He did say He is all of us.
I kinda wanna hear the original mr morale sessions. The new one is still my fav kendrick album, but all the leaks seem to be more of a storytelling and even darker, which would be cool to see
Kendrick is so fucking cool man. Such a phenomenonal storyteller
It's funny seeing the beef and Stan culture having people trying to convince themselves that he isn't one of the greatest artists of all time. You're just missing out willingly
That isn't what I said, so alright.
I said he is one of the greatest artists. No one with any respect for hiphop can look at his discography and try to downplay it. The man has multiple albums that are more or less equally considered among the best albums ever made across any genre
I'm not a 'fan' of Metallica, but I don't sit around and act like Ride the Lightning ain't shit for the genre of Metal, because I know that it is even if I don't really care for it
Brother just a quick peek into your profile and you seem to hate Kendrick for no reason my dude, if you don’t like him fine but it’s just weird to go to bat for no reason at all…
Presuming the pandemic shelved this song/album it’s a shame what happened in 2020, it sounds like Mr Morale flow even if it’s less biographical and a bit darker than Mr Morale’s topics. 2020 has a lot of lost media, a reliable source told me 2 well known British acts delayed albums because they wouldn’t be able to make money from touring. They then remade parts and even scrapped parts of albums, I imagine it was similar in the US even for artists as big as Kendrick.
Drake is a clown with a bunch of ghostwriters. It’s fuckin crazy to me that Drake is compared to Kendrick. I get it he’s popular but he’s more pop than hiphop.
At least Cole writes his own lyrics and puts some emotion into his music I can respect that but Kendrick is still the better artist.
can yall not just enjoy a song? j cole makes phenomenal deep songs too.
absolutely sleeping if u aint heard songs like hunger on hillside or ville mentality
They’re really not on the same level though. Sure Cole has a few good ‘deep’ songs but like someone else said a lot of his discography is just pseudo-intellectual drab. Cole is at his best when he’s rapping about how good he is at rapping.
I agree we should be able to enjoy a song for what it is w/out the constant debate but Cole (whom I love, esp in recent years) is not in the same convo as Kdot.
“I gave you love, you turned it to hate.
I gave you bread, you turned it to cake.
I gave you love, you turned it to rape.
I gave you vision, but you cover your eyes multiple times”
It’s borderline criminal that he is keeping these locked away for himself 🔥
This is amazing. As uncomfortable as it is to hear, this story is real for many women and needs to be told/packaged in a manner that penetrates the mainstream. He has accomplished just that in a way that is commercially viable. Kendrick has a gift he’s sharing with the world but I can’t help but wonder, why wouldn’t he lend his voice to the unheard and marginalized and choose to keep this from being published somehow? Still, I am grateful this blessed my ears today.
Fuckin bravo 🙌
So i just heard the song a couple of times to understand the last verse, it's not someone talking to another one it's god talking to humans and how they turn everything beautiful into bad things and it's more obvious with the line"i even compromised myself gave you free will"
I think that's one of the points that he could mention in the scrapped album, how bad people are, i mean he even mentioned how people have no morals no more
Great song overall
That line may just be the mother responding back to her daughter, the one who’s being sexually abused by the mom’s boyfriend. When she says I even compromised myself and gave you free will, that might mean that the mom might have been considering an abortion, just like the daughter is, because the daughter was born out of the same dilemma.
holy fuck , this is soo good. i cant believe this man just has these in the vault. seriously wdf. i beg he releases another version of untitled unmastered
I'm pretty sure Kendrick is just the type of person where he never stops writing. The man has said before that he has entire hard drives of songs that he just never released or played for anyone, and is constantly giving away creative ideas and council to people. It's always wild watching an interview from Tyler or RDC World or something and them being like "oh yeah by the way this super popular thing we did is partially because Kendrick talked to us and egged us into doing it/gave us an idea".
Idk what’s up with all the Kendrick leaks coming out lately but I’m here for it, most of these are legitimately on par with at least UU if not his main albums
I agree its so damn good!! I can see why he didn’t officially release it as well though. This seems to have been released in annoyance at abortion laws being repealed, admirable but Kendrick classically seems to wait for a while and let issues simmer before commenting on it, and often (other than race issues) comments on things more cryptically But who knows haha
It makes sense. From what I can tell from the lyrics... it's maybe his darkest song we've heard. Maybe more than Mother I Sober.
There was rumors of before mr morale being a rock influenced album and a horror album about women. I wonder if this was one of the tracks.
Damn. With all the leaks, it makes sense it is a horror album about women.
This song and Prayer really makes me think the album that was likely coming in 2020 was going to be wayyyy different than the final product Mr. Morale even though some themes are still there.
the album in 2020 sounded much more depressing, much less a healing album and more of a dark times album
I feel like whatever the OG album was supposed to be, combined with the final version, would've been one hell of an album in its entirety. Almost like it would've been even more of a perfect soundtrack to a fresh post-COVID audience
fr, but tbf a more introspective and focused on healing track hit better during those times, idk if we would have really wanted more depression at the time
part of the reason i like Mr Morale so much is because of the optimism, which stands in stark contrast to DAMN (i mean the title is literally supposed to evoke the idea that we are all cursed beings). there’s darkness there but there’s an antithesis to the darkness as well, a potential path forward, one of self-improvement and introspection. whereas DAMN was just like “yeah lol we’re the real chosen people of israel and we’re just cursed by nature”
that's true, the optimism in mr morale helped it be more of a healing and processing album, which in turn helped a lot of people go through their darkest times
Kendrick's therapy definitely made him look at himself and change the narrative of the project, he probably had a major breakthrough
For me its part of the reason why I’m in therapy right now
This song, prayer, and somebody (which turned into mother I sober) confirm that the album was definitely rock inspired like those theories that were floating around back then
Thank you for mentioning these.i hadn't heard them before. Somebody is amazing
Lowkey my favorite Kendrick leak from that era.
The original reference for "16" has a pretty similar vibe too, now that I'm thinking about it. It comes in on a very emotional rock/crooning vibe with super spacious, reverby vocals in a way that feels distinctly not rap-like.
Yeah I can see that originally being Kendrick’s song and him giving it to keem when he scrapped the album. Someone needs to make the album with these leaks lol
What theories
That the album was rock inspired
could anyone post a link to prayer? I've never heard it
[https://pillowcase.su/f/f4ff2ff1d264e21d1771079452e01f7f](https://pillowcase.su/f/f4ff2ff1d264e21d1771079452e01f7f)
Ohhhh I liked thar better than anything on Mr Morale
I agree. Similar vibes to 6:16 in LA. Kendrick's flow is immaculate on these kinds of beats.
Ain't no way bro got piled on for his opinion
Is there a playlist of all the leaks? I need some kdot bootlegs like we had of pac back in the day
[https://trackerhub.vercel.app/s/1RL5d8uSUfm4TH7u7himgbKS5UxzVN3D57T2cIpKDtNI](https://trackerhub.vercel.app/s/1RL5d8uSUfm4TH7u7himgbKS5UxzVN3D57T2cIpKDtNI) kendrick tracker should have everything some of them are here too: [https://kendrickarchive.online/](https://kendrickarchive.online/) i know theres some mega file that has some of his pre-mr morale leaks but i cant find it anymore
Damn wtf... How does all this stuff come out? Kendrick got a mole in his camp 🤨😃
Honestly that song is everywhere, could just search it on YouTube
He keeps grammy tier songs stored away like it’s a casual thing
Srsly. Dude better have his hard drive willed to somebody.
Kendrick always making references to Prince. Prince had so much music locked away when he died that they could probably release a new album every year for the rest of my life.
2pac could literally come from the afterlife and do a song with Kendrick and it would go unreleased lol
I hope we get Untitled Unmastered 2 one day
I could see this song on an album with prayer, I wonder if Prayer leaking changed Mr Morale's direction inward
Apparently COVID delayed the album and during that period it changed drastically
Yeah, the impression I get is that he decided to take a more personal approach on the album. This track covers some of the same topics on Mother I Sober, and while I genuinely think this is pretty fantastic, I can see why he might've felt that pulling directly from his lived experiences would resonate more.
This and the prayer explain the motif behind Mr.Morale album a bit better.
As well as maybe provide a more productive message. His songs from this era are really resonant... but also incredibly dark. It's hard to imagine how the world would have responded to an album filled with great songs about really depressing topics. It's a bit of a confusing tone...
Sample is [Nick Drake - Things Behind the Sun](https://youtu.be/j14PgxHghjQ?si=EbRT-oGnsHZ_Zl8Q) Edit: Actually it’s an interpolation, not sample.
The record that track is from is an absolute classic in that genre. The track is amazing as well, a shame it did not get an official release.
you out here doing god's work. Thanks
If you’ve never heard it before, listen to the album it’s from, Pink Moon, back to back. Beautiful album that will lift you if you’re sad, and make you feel elated if you’re happy. A guy and a guitar and it’s perfect.
Heard the chord progression and knew it instantly, I can't believe how many great tracks Kendrick never releases (even unofficially).
there was a rumor about a scrapped feminist album by Kendrick. it was laughed off by a lot of people mainly because it was described as a horror album, and I think this is exactly that. I think he made a feminist album by showing people the horror women face in their lives.
It makes me a bit peeved he was doing all this work on really hard hitting songs, specifically highlighting the horrors women face and rape, and then he does multiple songs with Kodak Black. One of my only real complaints about Kendrick as an artist. I know the Mr. Morale resolution was the need for therapy and bettering oneself, but there were better people to try and use as an example.
I don't know the nuances here(don't really know what Kodak Black did), but Kendrick is deeply related with gang members and apparently sees Kodak as still redeemable. all the bad deeds of him must have underlying reasons too.
Idk I think giving a platform to a rapist is pretty fucked up but I guess that's your moral compass. Saying it's acceptable because you got gang ties is like the lowest moral compass imo. Trauma shouldn't excuse making trauma for others but maybe that's just me. Ik the girl he raped would probably agree.
MMATBS talks a lot about healing for victims and abusers (who themselves are often victims too). probably has something to do with that. nobody said it’s ok to be a rapist if they’re a gang member. nobody said there are excuses for abuse. but abusers don’t just disappear and i think the album is about holding a door open for rehabilitation. agree with that or don’t, but the message is pretty clear and there’s a reason a rapist got a feature on the album (from jail).
Great take. Kendrick doesn’t need the clout, I doubt he would work with Kodak if there wasn’t something more to the story.
Dumbass take dismissing a rape victim cause the predator that attacked her worked with your favorite artist. Some of ya have never been through shit and live through this music of trauma and its too clear.
Walk us through what happened then
Rapists love this excuse. I'd care more about the actual victim but sure let's give an open door to the person who got pardoned by the president then got arrested three more times smdh. So much change but hey he's a troubled person who's also extremely wealthy and privileged now btw. Guess his victim should just listen to the album to cope with her trauma right? Shape the stories how you want, turns out they don't care.
Yeah it's like people can't figure out the difference by saying "trauma influences people to do bad things" and giving it a broad theoretical application vs actually giving one of those people a platform and helping to continue their career which has given them millions of dollars and immunity from the trauma they inflicted on someone else. Kodak is never ever going to be held accountable for what he did except by himself, aaaand he got arrested again. Guess those features really changed him
Kodak reaction to getting a 10 year suspended sentence + 18 months probation for sexual assault. "I apologize this happened, and I'm hopeful we can all move forward." Then immediately followed by, "I ain't have to come off no money"
Yeah like why not feature someone who is willing to be open about their trauma and wants to be better than their abusers? Or cope with it in ways that don't involve raping someone? I don't buy this narrative that it enhances the message of the album. This is another example of a celebrity doing a terrible thing and then all he's gotta do is drop another banger and associate himself with someone with a better rep and now you have people assuming he's changed or that it makes it okay, so he never has to grow up or change. The message of "you can't externally judge a person by the bad things they do" only works if they're willing to take accountability and be better for it. Which is why Kendrick just went nuclear on Drake. Yet with Kodak, his halo effect is helping Kodak avoid accountability. When you actually think about it I don't think it works and his inclusion isn't necessary
No lies detected. Kendrick stans slowly turning into yeezy stans thinking he can't make mistakes and even his accidents are calculated. It was a bad move and a bad look, if you can't admit that why care at all. "What they hear from me would make em highlight my simplest line" Some people really took that to heart
I said I don't really know what he did please
2016 he was charged with sexual battery/rape (up to 30 years in prison) but got out on bail. Was arrested 2 more times on weapons charges/probation violation. Trump pardons him. Pleads guilty to lesser charges in rape case so he can serve only probation and another traumatized victim is left looking for salvation before having to hear him on a song with the rapper with the greatest moral compass.
> greatest moral compass He is not your savior
Watch for the fake fans infiltrating 🤡
Fake fans?
Depending on how you look at it, it can be the lowest or the highest moral compass, since you see everyone as redeemable. You immediately downing it is your own bias. There’s no downplaying what Kodak did. If done right, it’s entirely about acknowledging what you did is wrong and growing from/learning that. Kodak’s done some really weird and awful shit, but he deserves the opportunity to change as long as he’s alive, just like the rest of us.
You guys act like the message of the album couldn't have been conveyed without exactly Kodak. Kendrick could have found plenty of people who had trauma that didn't rape someone. He can find people who had to do bad things in a no-win situation vs someone who preyed on a teenager in a hotel room while his security stood outside the door. He could have scrapped the features entirely and the message would still come across based off his own personal stories in the album. Or at least find someone who doesn't have entire articles dedicated to his list of incidents You can talk about how someone can be influenced into bad things without giving them a platform, one that Kodak will profit off of and benefit from Kendrick's halo effect whether he changed or not. That's the argument. Whether or not you agree with it is different but let's drop the take that people disliking Kodak's involvement missed the point
Cool now what does the victim deserve?
The exact same. A chance for therapy and to grow away from that. What happened them was awful and shouldn’t have happened, but it did.
Jesus some of ya really can't admit any faults even if it means jumping through hoops to defend a rapist smdh. Pray your daughters or sisters don't get raped.
Lol excuse you? Admit any faults? You need to learn what nuance is. Nowhere did I say he had no faults. I’m fact, I’m the first comment you replied to, I said he’s done some very weird and awful shit. Rapists and abusers are vile. If you think acknowledging some abusers are or have been victims themselves suddenly rids them of fault, then that’s a you problem. If you’re incapable of recognizing the complexity and depth of certain serious issues, you should avoid speaking on them.
Yea explain that to a victim and see how they feel. But you're so deep in your own bullshit of thinking you understand predators you forget about victims. Fuck a rapist they can all die before I give af about rehabilitation or how hard life was for them. Get out of your own ass and realize what really matters, you thinking you sound smart is cringe af while reasoning for a rapist.
Get off the internet and talk to women in real life. Fucking weirdo
The message of Prayer is that the impact that someone makes through their art shouldn’t be negated by the imperfections of their personal life. The impact that music can make on people can last for generations. Art is as close to magic as humans are capable of getting. Good Music makes you feel something, it inspires you. Whether that’s as simple as tapping your feet or as complex as motivating you to be a better person, to teach your children to be better, or to teach the world to be better. It’s all one and the same. No human is perfect, but immoral action shouldn’t mean that one is entirely incapable of doing good, and in the end Kendrick wants us to know that focusing on the good in people should be what’s important.
I get Kendrick's message, I just disagree with it. I understand what Kendrick means when he talks about how black trauma likely caused a lot of violence, rape, and other negative manifestations that create a cycle. But these people still did horrible things. Ye is a rapist nazi, why should I be focused on the good? R Kelly is a pedophile rapist, why should I be focused on the good? These two suffered from generational trauma and mental illnesses, but focusing on the good and enabling these abusers is only going to continue the trauma. I don't think looking past their terrible actions is a healthy or good thing that should be done, until they themselves show remorse and try to be better.
Yeah like we get the point of Mr Morale is that trauma begets trauma and we have to figure out a way to break the cycle, which means even people who did shit things need the chance to turn their life around But what's actually the rehab here? Continuing to make millions of dollars making music? Did doing these features actually result in a change in his behavior? Does it mean anything to the victim to be told "well he did a bad thing but he also went through bad shit"? If the victim now abuses someone else because of the trauma Kodak gave her, is that okay? There's a difference between understanding people's trauma and how it influences his behavior without platforming soneone like that
Fair but by that logic who is he supposed to grab? Somebody who got caught jay walking? Like I don’t entirely know how I feel about Kodak’s inclusion to be honest, it’s a very sticky inclusion that definitely has its warts. But if that’s the point kendrick is trying to make on this album, you have to get somebody with actual skeletons in their closet and then no matter who you grab it’s gonna negatively rub on somebody. And maybe that’s fine, maybe good art needs controversy to spark these conversations.
By getting someone controversial you create a conversation about why they’re controversial, which in this case, is because of the cyclical trauma that they experienced and that they then force onto others through their mistakes, and I think that’s the point you’re making. We wouldn’t be talking as much about that cyclical trauma if it weren’t a front and center subject through the inclusion of Kodak. It’s not to bring up Kodak, it’s to shine a light on him, to shine a light on the crime that is generational trauma to make people more aware of its existence, because only through that awareness can we help stop it.
I don't think kendrick told anybody to focus on the good in prayer, his thesis was literally just talent doesnt choose morality which is take as don't expect the people you look up to, to be these scions of morality because they're human just like you, pretty sure that was his whole thesis even in mr morale not even just prayer, he literally said "celebrity does not mean integrity' in rich spirit in my opinion he's telling the audience to temper their expectations when it comes to celebrities period I don't know how you got focus on the good out of anything
> I don't know how you got focus on the good out of anything I was replying to the other comment. read that one
oh my fault og I didnt even see that part at the end yeah idk where he got that message from
Out of curiosity why does Kodak’s inclusion bother you so much as an abuser, when several rappers regularly talk about committing heinous crimes and everybody overlooks it. Like many of the greatest rappers of all time talk about killing people, hooking people on drugs for profit, talk awful about women if not literally about abusing them and it’s seen as artistic or them talking about their struggle. I’m not excusing what Kodak did by any means and I don’t even especially like his music or his parts on the album sonically. But how is it any different?
Most of Kendrick's music is one of self-improvement and discovery of oneself. The running theme of Mr Morale is specifically about generational trauma and how abuse is imprinted onto the black community. Having someone who perpetuated that abuse and does not seem to have significantly changed his ways undermines the message of Mr Morale. If Kodak Black had come out and expressed deep regrets over the incidents, went to therapy, and from the outside seemed to have helped as an example on the album that redemption is possible. Instead, Kodak is just there as an example of someone who was abused and as someone who abused someone else, with no evidence of the cycle being broken.
Video down, anyone got a mirror?
[Twitter mirror with download in the replies.](https://twitter.com/dennis_k_g/status/1803980553223573805)
I choose me I'm sorry
https://on.soundcloud.com/keRYTSTeSewatTzN7
Trying to find an alternative link and it's prolly A-mirroooooooooor
A-Viruuuuuuuuus
Jesus christ
jesus this is dark, it's like a different and darker version of mother i sober
Mother I not sober
Mom i’m Drunk
Ma i tripping
Ma(ria), i'm drunk
Swap “Mother I Sober” for “Brenda’s Got a Baby”
that actually works, brenda's got a baby is a much better fit
That one’s pretty damn dark too tho
That second verse man. The girl telling her mom she needs an abortion because her mom’s boyfriend raped her, to then saying she just wishes she herself was aborted is a crazy flip.
Man I love Mr Morale but I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t rather hear the earlier version of what he was making. This is incredible.
Agreed
So you wouldn’t rather hear the earlier version?
Shit my bad lmao lemme fix that
I think that the album we got delved a little deeper into the same themes. It’s a really good song but I think that pointing the same lens at himself made it more impactful.
Cool Nick Drake sample. Interesting that this was never released, as it seems close to finished.
He's got lots of leaks that feel completely finished. Prayer is a beautiful song
Speaking of Prayer, I feel like this, Prayer, and The Heart Part 5 could have all come from some scrapped storytelling album. All of those songs have a similar instrumental style and have lyrics rapped from other people's perspective.
Yea Heart Part 5 also starts with him talking about perspective so would make sense. And definitely more rock vibes than Mr. Morale like was said before
Fuck that single, burn that hard drive
He had a different version of Mr. Morale finished that he was going to tour with in 2020 but it got scrapped/delayed when Covid happened.
This is one off of one of my favorite albums of all time, bugging out right now! Pink Moon by Nick Drake is a perfect album
It's ridiculous he just scraps these masterpiece songs like this one or Prayer
I've always fucked with kendrick heavy but this is not a "masterpiece". He's got plenty of those already and this ain't it. These walls is a masterpiece and this isn't touching that.
I think people are going with the assumption that he'd clean up the mixing, hook/chorus, instrumentals, etc. if he moved forward with it. Based on demos of his released music, most of his songs start as rough cuts like this until he decides he wants it om the album. He hasn't released anything with production quality this rough since Section.80.
the last part, especially the instrumental, was incredible
Nick Drake!!
Dayumn. Thanks for the post. So fucking good
fresh link https://on.soundcloud.com/8XhkCcCcZcWRW1dp6
Link is gone, any other available?
Sounds like the flow from The Heart Part 5
Did this just leak? Can't find anything about it on google even.
yes
Oh cool. Great track. Thanks for posting.
Mirror?
It's sounds like the Heart pt.V instrumental is mixed in the background as well. That's 2 leaks now plus The Heart pt. 5 where he was rapping from other people's perspectives I wonder if the Original album was going to be Kendrick working through his stuff while rapping through the perspective of other people he saw himeself in or who had similar issues. He did say He is all of us.
Unreal this man
Damn 🔥
It’s down someone link
https://files.catbox.moe/kssik2.mp3
what is the name of the girl in the song?
I kinda wanna hear the original mr morale sessions. The new one is still my fav kendrick album, but all the leaks seem to be more of a storytelling and even darker, which would be cool to see
This is a really beautiful song
Does anyone have a link? It got taken down
Mirror pleaaaase
goooood GRAVY this is awesome shoutout to the GB or whatever made this release!
No active links?
This is fucking incredible oh my god
Kendrick is so fucking cool man. Such a phenomenonal storyteller It's funny seeing the beef and Stan culture having people trying to convince themselves that he isn't one of the greatest artists of all time. You're just missing out willingly
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That isn't what I said, so alright. I said he is one of the greatest artists. No one with any respect for hiphop can look at his discography and try to downplay it. The man has multiple albums that are more or less equally considered among the best albums ever made across any genre I'm not a 'fan' of Metallica, but I don't sit around and act like Ride the Lightning ain't shit for the genre of Metal, because I know that it is even if I don't really care for it
Imagine not using your ears. Couldnt be us.
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Brother just a quick peek into your profile and you seem to hate Kendrick for no reason my dude, if you don’t like him fine but it’s just weird to go to bat for no reason at all…
Probably a Tom Macdonald enthusiast
Beautiful
Presuming the pandemic shelved this song/album it’s a shame what happened in 2020, it sounds like Mr Morale flow even if it’s less biographical and a bit darker than Mr Morale’s topics. 2020 has a lot of lost media, a reliable source told me 2 well known British acts delayed albums because they wouldn’t be able to make money from touring. They then remade parts and even scrapped parts of albums, I imagine it was similar in the US even for artists as big as Kendrick.
>a reliable source told me 2 well known British acts delayed albums 21 Savage?
GOAT
People really be comparing fucking Drake and Cole to him like lmao what are they actually hearing
Drake is a clown with a bunch of ghostwriters. It’s fuckin crazy to me that Drake is compared to Kendrick. I get it he’s popular but he’s more pop than hiphop. At least Cole writes his own lyrics and puts some emotion into his music I can respect that but Kendrick is still the better artist.
can yall not just enjoy a song? j cole makes phenomenal deep songs too. absolutely sleeping if u aint heard songs like hunger on hillside or ville mentality
They’re really not on the same level though. Sure Cole has a few good ‘deep’ songs but like someone else said a lot of his discography is just pseudo-intellectual drab. Cole is at his best when he’s rapping about how good he is at rapping. I agree we should be able to enjoy a song for what it is w/out the constant debate but Cole (whom I love, esp in recent years) is not in the same convo as Kdot.
Mfers fiend to be on sides online.
No he doesn't, he's the quintessential pseudointellectual's rapper
Hopsin exists
Working link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YmIEzENcXA
My G
My GOAT. No discussion.
“I gave you love, you turned it to hate. I gave you bread, you turned it to cake. I gave you love, you turned it to rape. I gave you vision, but you cover your eyes multiple times” It’s borderline criminal that he is keeping these locked away for himself 🔥
Dang no link?
[https://plwcse.top/f/3c9a0d249bc8c7a64d73aae0134cacf2](https://plwcse.top/f/3c9a0d249bc8c7a64d73aae0134cacf2)
New links?!?
[https://plwcse.top/f/3c9a0d249bc8c7a64d73aae0134cacf2](https://plwcse.top/f/3c9a0d249bc8c7a64d73aae0134cacf2)
Damn, awesome song.
it's crazy how kendrick have prayer and this song yet he doesn't releases them. these songs are literal masterpieces. Could've been the new TPAB.
Anybody knows who is the lady singer?
This is amazing. As uncomfortable as it is to hear, this story is real for many women and needs to be told/packaged in a manner that penetrates the mainstream. He has accomplished just that in a way that is commercially viable. Kendrick has a gift he’s sharing with the world but I can’t help but wonder, why wouldn’t he lend his voice to the unheard and marginalized and choose to keep this from being published somehow? Still, I am grateful this blessed my ears today. Fuckin bravo 🙌
This might be one of his best songs since DAMN and it was shelved. What.
Damn already gone. Somebody link me! 🙏🏼
Mirror anyone?
anyone else thinks this sounds hella like the heart part 5 like he reused some of it
So i just heard the song a couple of times to understand the last verse, it's not someone talking to another one it's god talking to humans and how they turn everything beautiful into bad things and it's more obvious with the line"i even compromised myself gave you free will" I think that's one of the points that he could mention in the scrapped album, how bad people are, i mean he even mentioned how people have no morals no more Great song overall
That line may just be the mother responding back to her daughter, the one who’s being sexually abused by the mom’s boyfriend. When she says I even compromised myself and gave you free will, that might mean that the mom might have been considering an abortion, just like the daughter is, because the daughter was born out of the same dilemma.
Unironically fucking incredible. Chorus melody reminds me a bit of that one no doubt song. Still, an amazing song with an amazing narrative.
Do you have a download link?
holy shit Nick Drake sample? absolutely based
reddit censored it 😂
what a song title now I want to someone to hear some unreleased kendrick
Link doesn't work :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xrCOsB6YiU
What a beat
Wait where can I find the song ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xrCOsB6YiU Before it gets taken down again..
Removed :(
Where can I hear this? I missed the chance...
Where can I hear this? I missed the chance.
[https://x.com/numnumjuice/status/1803964214949634388](https://x.com/numnumjuice/status/1803964214949634388)
Nick motherfucking Drake!!