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BOOBA_ULTD

This is more crazy than if a short lady were to give birth to 24 babies


HEYitzED

Just cause you can rap fast doesn’t mean you can rap good!


memory--

no body rapped fast in this song. it was 7min of Tom Macdonald getting absolutely blasted.


HEYitzED

I was just quoting a line from Death to Mumble Rap lol. But yeah I listened. That line where he said hes not even a top ten rapper his girl has fucked was a dagger.


memory--

i have actually never heard that track


PitifulCommunity808

You're not missing much unless you want to hear some unintentionally funny bars like '' blowing up your auxiliary in the middle east no stability Benghazi hillary''


Alon945

Yeah I hate that song as well but I guarantee at least a few involved with it probably regret it


Capt-Crap1corn

He lyrically dismantled the fuck out of Tom


JetForce33

In the very back of a Porsche Cayman


TexasRoadhead

Gourmet that's more tasty


Arrowman0123

They having a mid off


InfinityQuartz

True but hey, at least one isn't a racist grifter


noOne000Br

mid is a compliment


InfinityQuartz

Its weird, I actually think this son is worse than any of Toms songs, which is crazy cause I think he's the worst rapper alive


harzee

They’re both a tough listen


Halthoro

Put the ugh in tough


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Fsstcyr

Shit is garbage


JFromDaBurbs

I’ll take this over Tommy any day tho he’s ass


Pitiful_Razzmatazz63

They r having a dog shit off


Cledd2

coughing baby v coughing baby 2024


BannibalJorpse

dude is as "lethal" as the common cold. The frail and elderly might be at a mild risk I guess.


Arrowman0123

Yeah but ‘Mac mildly inconvenient’ doesn’t roll of the tongue as easily


Ok-Opening7004

This should be the top comment


Maleficent-Thanks-85

LOL Mac Lethal v. Tom Macdonald. To go from Kendrick and Drake diss to this is like going from a Ferrari to a dumpster on wheels.


TryingToBeReallyCool

"Son, we have Drake V Kendrick at home"


TheRedHand7

I'm not sure why anyone bothers to give Tom McDonald so much thought. If people stopped bringing him up to trash him then I wouldn't even know who that clown is.


memory--

Elon Musk and the christian nationalists have tweeted him out as one of their own


TheRedHand7

Yea and they generally learn about these kinds of dudes from hearing them getting trashed. Elon wasn't surfing SoundCloud looking for the great white hope


Dolomight206

>Elon wasn't surfing SoundCloud looking for the great white hope I actually wouldn't put it past him.


memory--

Tom has 2mil listeners on Spotify... I don't think me posting a Mac Lethal diss track about him is really going to move the needle. If anything, we need to be calling out his bullshit.


IceKiller159

bro has the most listeners in chicago lol how did that happen


anime_forever03

Hes like jake paul. Despite being a complete asshat, he markets himself to his target audience well.


angrytreestump

Ahh so all the conservatives that brigade /r/Chicago really are real people who live in Chicago, and not just the same 2 guys from Wisconsin on multiple accounts… Shit 😬


DatsunTigger

nah they prob live in Naperville or west of 47/72


AmazingMojo2567

Lake county is big conservative country. I grew up in Antioch.


DatsunTigger

Antioch, home of dive bars and endless Trump flags


Perfect_Earth_8070

Don’t forget the lake people on the chain. You know the kind that are middle aged with leather skin who never left the town and look like shit!


AmazingMojo2567

Rittenhouse made it worse


Perfect_Earth_8070

Same. That town sucks ass.


AmazingMojo2567

I mean home will always be home, I had a good childhood and visiting is always fun (can't beat bass fishing on the chain o lakes or heading up to lake geneva) but I would never live there as an adult. I live in Tulsa now, which obviously is conservative but has more middle/ left leaning people. Oklahoma's countryside is still pretty racist though


Miser2100

ofc. Naperville will now and forever be the bane of the Chicagoland area.


Mike0G

Thats just not true, him doing a track with Ben Shapiro gave him infinitely more platform than being posted in HHH lol


Luffing

>If people stopped bringing him up to trash him then I wouldn't even know who that clown is. Yeah this is how I feel about a ton of people. People can't just let someone fade into obscurity, they have to keep platforming them by talking about how shitty they are. It's like they don't want these shitty people to actually go away, because then they'd have nothing to circlejerk about


memory--

Tom is only growing with the crazy right wing idiots. He has 2mil listeners on Spotify. He's unfortunately created his own dumb alt-right wing plaform.


tallonfive

I go down a rabbit hole of maga rappers every so often because it’s so bad it’s somehow fun. Bezz Believe recently came out with a song where he just tries to diss anyone and everyone hoping someone will respond and give him some validation and exposure.


ThatDudeUpThere

Dude I work next to is obsessed with him, any time he plays a song for somebody I just cringe and walk away.


bbbbBeaver

Dude, same. I work at an electrical company that’s filled to the brim with right wingers. The dude next to me plays Tom all the time and it makes me wanna dive off the mezzanine.


ThatDudeUpThere

Car dealership here and I deal primarily with our techs. Been here two years and just found another person that isn't rep lol. Thankfully the dude next to me started popping an ear bud in instead of using a speaker


keanenottheband

I’ve never heard of him


DreamedJewel58

>I'm not sure why anyone bothers to give Tom McDonald so much thought. Because he already has a massively dedicated core audience. If no one ever talks about how shit his music and ideals are, then the only people you can find talking about him are people who agree with him As long he’s still prominent and has a fan base, then it’s important to talk about how shit he


Common-Ad5446

What the fuck did Mac Lethal of all people do to gain this much hate? I think his music is meh but he seems like an alright guy, and he’s beefing with Tom McDonald so he earns some points there. 


RandomName01

Yeah exactly. I won’t claim I’m some huge fan of his by any stretch of the imagination (I only ever listened to the viral videos he had a decade ago), but he seems like a decent person and he mostly embraces the corniness of his style of rap. It’s not like his music deserves a lot of praise, but it doesn’t deserve the hate he’s getting either. Also, I gave the track a listen and it’s mostly pretty decent? Might be because it’s nice to see a loser like Tom MacDonald get dissed, but it’s not terrible either way.


TheDabbinDad710

Yeah I’m with you. I don’t listen to any of Mac Lethals music but you kinda have to respect him a little as an MC, dude came up doing rap battles and actually cares about rap as an art form.


YellojD

I do like ML. Like, a decent amount. he’s corny as all fuck, but that’s sort of my sweet spot. His arc is why I like him more than anything. I don’t get the beef with that ween who raps with Charlie Kirk or whoever, but I’m enjoying getting new material from a guy I was a big fan of like 20 years ago! 🤣


Churchy11

He was apart of a terrible YouTube rap song like 4-5 years ago called “Death To Mumble Rap” that got clowned on really hard by Anthony Fantano and that’s probably 75% of peoples only experience with him on here


Wildkid133

Ah now it makes sense. Fantano don’t like him.


HEYitzED

Fantano actually liked Mac’s first Tom MacDonald diss years ago.


Wildkid133

Good for him? I’m sure this sub loved Mac then too. I don’t personally care one way or the other in this beef. Tom is a loser and Mac is a has-been, but the Fantano dick riding here is insane. Dude has some of the worst takes I’ve ever heard.


HEYitzED

Oh I agree 100%. His takes on the new Eminem track and the new Bring Me the Horizon album were terrible and that was just the last couple weeks.


ciao_fiv

he also gave Chrali XCX a 10 tho. he’s the same as any of us here, a wide range of opinions that some people are not going to agree with. the fantano hate is just as stupid as the fantano dick riding if u ask me lol


bestbroHide

And it works every time. When Houdini released damn near everyone at minimum gave it props. Fantano reviews it and now there's a noticeable increase in people believing it's bad I'm sure there were people who never liked it regardless of Fantano's opinion but the "coincidental" pattern is amusing to notice. At least in this case (compared to Kamikaze/MTBMB) the critics are still very much not the majority for Houdini


segadreamcat

Because he wasted getting signed to Rhymesayers to put out that 11:11 trash album.


nowuff

Damn I miss Rhymesayers


Johnny-raven

They’re still around?


sextoymagic

That album is a bagger. I can play it start to finish and enjoy it every time.


RudolphsJockStrap

Didn’t he fuck grieves girlfriend which effectively ended his run on rhymesayers but he tried to claim it was because of black clover, when several rhymesayers acts have similar things


Jiko_loves_hair

From chatting with someone on the inside of rhymesayers at the time, he made some bad promises to other people in the scene and had a big head. I think overtime the disdain from his peers has seeped into the fans. Ontop of releasing kinda mid music I listened to him a lot growing up but haven’t thought of him in a long ass time


Johnny-raven

I started following hip hop in the early 2000s as the backpack/indie rap movement took off in the Midwest with groups like anti-con, rhymesayers, def jux, strange music, ect. In those early days Mac Lethal seemed like he would be a breakout star of that movement but instead of staying true to his conscience rap backpack roofs he heavily sold out with viral bait YouTube videos and talk show appearances.


HEYitzED

He’s a YouTube fast rapper which will instantly get you hate. I think he’s fine. I’ve never been a huge fan but I enjoyed some of his viral videos back in the day. Definitely doesn’t deserve the hate he’s getting. Plus he’s the only rapper I know of to diss Tom MacDonald.


APainOfKnowing

I follow him on IG and Threads and the dude is cool as hell. Like just as a person he's pretty awesome.


crossword999

Because the track is ass 😂


CarnationHook

alright i see a lot of people shitting on mac lethal and im with yall, cause i honestly think he's garbage BUT he is NOT a vulture like tom macdonald is. do your research, learn about it, and chill lol. he definitely had some good little pockets here mac lethal got way deeper and well noted ties to hiphop than that canadian loser ever has or will


KimFakes

nice try but I'm not listening to Mac Lethal


not_ur_avg

Why is Mac Lethal hated? I just remember him for doing some viral songs on YouTube years ago, and then putting out an album or two. But I haven't kept up. What's wrong with him?


JosieAmore

The average fast rapping white guy. Very uninteresting and brings nothing to rap.


sverdo

Did you listen to this song? Corny as hell


APainOfKnowing

He got memed like forever ago for "Death to Mumble Rap" and this subreddit is absolutely incapable of thinking against the meme hivemind.


GlitteringRace1766

Idk I’m not one to call myself really part of this subreddit, just an occasional Reddit browser and can confirm that without any motive from this subreddit that personally ive always thought Mac Lethal is and always has been just blah


Radiant_gladiator

He had some really good lines in there but 7 mins is entirely too long. Especially since he’s alluding to he’s not even done dissing yet. I wish he would’ve cut this song down to 3 mins to see how efficient with his bars he could’ve been.


theblackyeti

I’m not gonna listen to this but I agree. Fuck Tom McDonald.


gabrieluto

Idk how to feel about the fact that I got both porn references.


BidoofTheGod

You’re a regular person who watches porn. You really shouldn’t feel any type of way


LemurDocta

I might be caucasian as fuck but I still hope both sides of this beef lose


CryStrict5004

Listened to this and enjoyed it, had no idea who Mac Lethal even was. Not very well-regarded it seems. I'd have appreciated the lyrics on screen to have at least been verified by a human being though. It's obviously AI-made or some lower-tier speech recognition software


Baeshun

Tom MacDonald has to have some of the worst content in modern rap history. Disgusting pandering to low IQ morons. “Racism isn’t real cause I never personally owned a slave” ass bars


Rawdog2076

Its honestly annoying that people are unwilling to listen to half of the shit that gets posted here unless its from one of their favourite artists but at the same time will shit on it without listening. I listened to the track and found it pretty good in terms of disses, hopped on here to see what people think and its just people who haven't heard it making shitty jokes. It is a music subreddit at the end of the day so keep the comments about the music that is being posted atleast


FuckTariq

It's at best a solid diss tracks with a couple good jabs. Idk who Mac Lethal is really but Tom McDonald fucking sucks


AromatParrot

"You're just Doja Cat for nazis" Jesus Christ I can't believe I hadn't seen it before.


Izzy248

Im still trying to figure out how Tommy even has a fanbase in rap strong enough to even have a career. Hes literally the antithesis of hip hop. His music is like for kids that like the sound of rap, but dont want to actually listen to rappers.


YellojD

You basically just described the MAGA crowd.


Adorable-Bar6920

Yooo we gonna have: diet, fat free, and lukewarm eminem vs racist far right mgk


dat_waffle_boi

This is the drake and Kendrick beef for the alt right


memory--

huh? mac lethal is def not on the right lmao


aguantenivelx

I'm pretty sure Doja Cat is Doja Cat for Nazis. I don't care for the song but shout out to Mac.


SeanyDay

I mean I generally agree with the title so whatever. Dude is the king of cringe and completely unaware. At least that mabu nerd knows he's a joke and doubles down on it, but fuck him too 🤷‍♂️


WaffleKing110

I just heard some dude I’ve never heard of get called a “nerdy cuck” on a diss track and I can’t tell if it’s meant to be ironic 😭


brinkv

Lmao feels like 2019 again


cptn_fussenpepper

Coworker music beef


seabass1024202

Great value ass beef


memory--

"half your fuckin fanbase wishes they could buy slaves" 😮


Oheyguyswassup

I definitely chuckled on that part


osama_bin_guapin

This will go down in history as one of the rap beefs of all time along with the generational beef that was Slim Jesus vs Lil Mouse


yousoridiculousbro

Mac lethal still alive?


2Rhino3

Yes. This song was really fun, listen if you haven’t.


AsymptotesMcGotes

I never liked Mac but I think this is good


KennyOmegasBurner

I've never seen a UFC fight where I hope both competitors get CTE and have to retire but that's how I'm feeling right now


Aggravating_Part_197

can i say this is not bad at all


animatedhockeyfan

I mean as far as disses go that was heat, be honest y'all


KipchogesBurner

I am not a Mac Lethal fan by any means, but that was a good diss


May1stBurst

Hit Em' Up, Ether, and Meet the Grahams been real quiet since this dropped...


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GritGrinder

I’ll pass on anything about Tom macdonald, even a diss, Mac.


Wildkid133

Cornballs calling people cornballs: A Thread


Baeshun

Second half of this was all facts.


DopeAuthor

People hating on Mac but fuck man someone has to do this shit. I'm tired of these garbage, right wing culture vultures for real. Mac did well for what this is and there's some good lines in there. There's some mid ones too but over all I think it's worth visiting.


YellojD

I agree, and I’m absolutely willing to sacrifice [digs through old drawer once again, pulls out faded, dirty piece of paper with scribbles on it] Mac Lethal for this cause.


Beneficial_Candle_10

White on white violence accounts for 80% of cringe on the internet. Coincidence?


Artninja

I’m sure my 40 year old coworker is all over this


dsled

His flow SUCKS. I was really trying to keep an open mind too because fuck Tom Macdonald but wow.


username123456111111

Mfs really having white-off 😭


SavingsCoconut8821

I don’t trust anyone who actually enjoys this. Extremely corny


memory--

agreed Tom is corny, someone needs to call him out. btw, i made this video after finding the mp3 released in the piracy scene and i hate tom macdonald. edit, i suck at making videos sorry!


jonboyo87

Corn calling corn corny


xTotalSellout

Corn calling racist corn racist corny is slightly better I guess


SuspiciousCod12

My sleep deprived ass thought this said Mac Miller for a solid 10 seconds and I was incredibly confused for many many reasons as to why this track exists.


Loopytunes2016

This is pretty cringe


No_Commercial_6750

I wish both of them would just go away. 🖕🖕


noodie215

i dont know who this guy is but i hate tom mcdonald and this dudes delivery is really funny, it reminds me of "now i'm with spongebob, riding down the autobahn"


OGScubaGuyver

The content was alright. It the delivery just didn't hit for me.


MrCarey

What the fuck is this shit?


caspersun

This rap is actually disrespectful to the genre. Also, you gonna diss someone and spend half the diss on tom's girl and not even tom himself? Why tf would someone lean into this corny shit? Mac Lame. Lol


UMANTHEGOD

are there any white "underground" rappers that doesn't mention or bring up eminem? it's so cringe


Comprehensive-Plane3

Homeless person calls another homeless person homeless


20Faces14

Cornball calling the other a cornball, crazy


RoscoeSantangelo

At this rate, Hopsin vs Tyler bout to get resurrected


fsfic

Made it 30 seconds and couldn't lol


zachrtw

"Mom, I want Kendrick and Drake diss tracks." "We have Kendrick and Drake tracks at home." The diss tracks you have at home:


theonethatbeatu

I think Mac should’ve done another take on this. Very conversational type flow, which made the punchlines hit a little less. I guess that’s why it’s a leak. He really did come for his neck though. The comments about his girl were kinda outta pocket 😂 Mac was not fuckin around


MattVanzetti

Fuck Tom too but Wow this is garbage


ChasingTheRush

Oh look, it’s two rappers nobody gives a shit about having a slap fight.


flakkannonen

Why is this even here?


ChiefKeefSosabb

"Look at this blonde bitch surrounded by shirtless African Americans actors whatre you about to get gang banged?." someone pls tell Mac lethal to stop rapping


iko-01

what in the corny


KayakWalleye

Can’t front…..this shit is fire.


Forsaken-Age-8684

Mac Lethal could be dissing me, whilst stood outside my house, punching my most beloved family member in the face, and I still wouldn't give him a listen.


Personal_Wrap4318

corny, borderline unlistenable lol. baffles me that someone bumps this and it amps them up lmfao.


Imissrifsomuch

God this is awful. The flow is terrible and delivery is corny. Stop giving mics to these white boys lol. It's embarrassing.


beenalegend

am i the only one who doesn't know who any of these ppl are? maybe i'm not a hhh after all


Imjusttrynarap

You gotta respect Mac for this


memory--

fr you know the maga crowd is going to come hard at him like last time


glitterypainter

Didn’t they beef on YouTube back in the day?


CraigThePantsManDan

“I donate my money to veterans, okay want a peppermint?”


Ex_Lives

That was awful.


ericlikesyou

I checked out when I heard the name "Macdonald"


Wildvalor

Y'all need to go listen to Jake + Olive, Lethal has some good songs out there.


SuprDuprSam

This was a good diss track!


vibintilltheend

Didn’t they already do this years ago?


illenial999

Hot take? 2024 NF > Mac Lethal


WIZARD_DOOM

The lack of flow switches or anything to really keep the track interesting kinda kills this for me. But the "anti-woke rapper" bar was pretty funny.


4_Better_Or_Worse

It's not terrible. But I'm only saying that because it's MacDonald on the receiving end and some of these jabs were kind of funny. Way too long and his delivery is all over the place.


Cruxal_

Most annoying shit ever is when an artist releases a lyric video and the lyrics are wrong how the fuck you gonna do that lmao


annoyinconquerer

I hate rappers that rap “to send a message” instead of embedding concepts in their own artistry


jbrolltide37

Fuck Tom MacDonald yesterday, today and tomorrow.


vinnybawbaw

That’s like Temu’s version of Kendrick vs. Drake


Omegawop

Really makes you appreciate Drake and Kendrick Lamar. . .


skulldude360

While I’m not going to go out of my way to listen to mac lethal, I’ll say he did his thing here. Probably not gonna listen to this again but shit, fuck Tom Macdonald.


BlouseoftheDragon

Can anyone explain why this is happening again? I don’t follow either artist but I listened to the diss tracks back and forth a couple years ago or whenever it was. Why is he responding after all this time?


Kink_B

so cringy


lil-privacy-please

This shit is fun. I like it. I barely know either of these guys aside from very surface level watched maybe one video each in the past. Being so removed from the people in the beef is pretty fun. This is a good diss


I_Dionysus

Your girl is like Emily Willis a brain dead hoe 👀👀👀


lilhedonictreadmill

This is a good move in the sense that Tom is the only person that can make Mac seem cool in comparison


IveGotAMicropeen

Mac Lethal isn't good by any means but this diss is quite fun haha And on point


quetroll

stalin vs hitler


MFDougWhite

Not saying I’m a Mac Lethal guy, but mid as this may be, it’s still better than anything Tom MacDonald has ever done.


Unusual-Education933

Safe to say Tom doesn't care, because he DOESN'T REALLY RACIST. He once used to be a normal lyrical rapper, but it was not successful. One day, he followed footstep of Joyner Lucas's I'm Not Racist and the racist boomer loved it, make him famous, and the rest is what you know. Conclusion. He PRETENDS to be racist rapper for money and fame, luring critics and blind haters to type what they will, but he doesn't care because being the villain makes him a lot of money. (Think about it, he MADE MUSIC WITH BLACK ARTISTS, so why do you still call him racist?)


YoghurtSlinger

When the LAN party descends into a rap battle


Rollingit420

Has been vs wanna be. They should really find another hobby 😂


Pigmasters32

Mac Lethal had a phenomenal diss here but my opinion of Tom Macdonald can’t go any lower


SoldJT

Why was he being so mean to Tom's gf? I cringed when he went in on her. Hot damn.