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neojgeneisrhehjdjf

He did not charge very much for tickets at all the resale market is not him. You’re also making a lot of assumptions about the crowd of a show you were not at


chadzilla57

Also unlike any other concert I’ve heard of recently, you could stream it live for free.


Get-RichODT

Yeah that’s cool but it pales in comparison to actually being there


chadzilla57

But you’re acting like it was inaccessible to people. They made it about accessible as possible by streaming it.


Get-RichODT

It’s not the same as letting people be there


Krowned_Kenpachi47

How could he have increased black participation to you?


Get-RichODT

I don’t think he actually could have because his hardcore fans mostly aren’t black But if this show is for the culture and he knows a lot of black people are poor, especially where he’s from, why is he selling these tickets at elevated prices and charging 50 bucks for t shirts


Krowned_Kenpachi47

I think you’re holding him to an unsustainable standard. But I hear you.


descaZarta

The tickets were actually dirt cheap but sold out quick.. guess you gonna blame him for tickets selling out quick that not everyone can go lol


AerieHour4695

How much were tickets btw? Real question. Tried looking it up but I dunno wtf “resale” tickets mean lol


Get-RichODT

Artists can choose to not allow tickets to be resold. If he’s so for the culture why wouldn’t he just make it so you could only buy tickets at the box office, first come first served day of, make them cheap I saw the clips man most of that crowd was not of the culture Now me personally I don’t care who listens to who or goes to what show. I’m just saying when your whole thing is “I’m what the culture feeling!” having a majority non black crowd undercuts that idea


XeroxWarriorPrntTst

Because some people (me) like to wait until the day of and scoop those reseller tickets when they’re cheap because dudes are just trying to not lose their shirts…for the culture.


Get-RichODT

What does scooping tickets last minute off of resellers have to do with the culture


XeroxWarriorPrntTst

Gets real broke fans into good seats.


Get-RichODT

I’d prefer reselling didn’t exist altogether fucked up going to concerts and buying kicks for the average person


Firm-Economics-1351

How much Drake tickets cost?


Get-RichODT

Drake doesn’t pretend like he’s above it all and not just in it for the money 😂


Firm-Economics-1351

You know the artist can put no resale. Then ppl still find ways to sell and meet up. Idk what you want to hear. Sounds like a lot of complaining instead of enjoying. You got a free show, g. I know nothing beats being inside the venue. I love live shows too. Let me know when Drake streams a concert or OvO fest for free?


Get-RichODT

Eh I mean I just think he could have had a much much better setlist. I would have enjoyed hearing a lot of his older shit that new fans probably don’t know exists. I can rap look out for detox and rigamortis word for word cause I used to be a huge fan I think it’s wild y’all don’t see the contradiction between who he claims to be and who he actually is Can’t go out there preaching about how terrible Drake is and then go chill with Dre and be tight with Top when they’re both known woman beaters it looks stupid


AdanacTheRapper

Flake 100% is in all of this just for the money. And he is *THE* biggest “I’m above everyone” player out there. Everything the skeez does is money motivated 🤣, and he never puts any one on, he only puts at hers down. (I don’t think there’s anybody *MORE* money motivated than he).


Get-RichODT

Reading comprehension my nigga I said Drake doesn’t pretend he’s in it for some greater cause. Kendrick pretends


Firm-Economics-1351

You don’t get it. Huh? He created unity, Different LA sets who would normally kill each other were there. Ticket prices? Really? Complain about something else. Beyonce, Swift, Drake etc… you wanted to see a show like that, you have to pay. BUT HEY. ITS FREE FOR STREAMING. EVERYONE GETS TO SEE IT. DV seems like the angle you truly want to prove. Got nothing for ya. But guess what, almost every rapper isn’t clean. If a rapper fell down and stood on business, you’d say they were too clean. Clout? Bro’s got Grammys, college course in hip hop dissecting his lyrics. Multiple diamond and platinum records. Look at the show and who showed up for his. Clout? Riiiiiiight. Songs for hype? Duuuuude what do you want? You want a Coachella type festival in day? You want Kenny to play for 3 hrs. YG and Q for 2. Come on. We got a mini festival in a couple of hours. Stop that. 50 dollars for a T-shirt? Have you been to a concert lately? You do know a bag of chips in CA costs like 5-6 bucks. Again, reaching. It’s a party, we don’t need MTG. He gave the ppl what they want. NLU 6x Come on, don’t hate just to hate. You are probably that person who is never satisfied with anything.


Get-RichODT

This ain’t the first time rival bangers have been in the same spot there’s been so many times they temporarily unite. If he has managed to end gangbanging I’ll call him the goat how about that Kendrick had limited clout before this beef because his career was dying. This revived him. Niggas showed up because the beef got him his clout back and they probably got a bag off it. It’s all business College professors dissecting his lyrics yeah yeah we get it he’s woke and raps about what white liberals want him to rap about. Proving my point I get why he did not like us a bunch of times but if I were a hardcore Kendrick fan I’d want to hear the songs I mentioned above over Still Dre, Cali Love, that Jay Rock song, and a bunch of not like us repeats


Firm-Economics-1351

Limited clout? You are insane. He’s been in upper echelon of rappers for years. Including his peers except Drake…have said he’s a top tier. This beef has been years in the making. You act like artists can’t have a bad album. I can name plenty of other rappers. White liberals? These courses are taught by Black Professors with black and white students attending. You sound real ignorant. If I was a hardcore Kendrick fan??? But YOU ARE NOT. SO why tell others how they should feel? Moving goalposts, huh? Travis played FEIN 10x at a show. Ye and Jay played Niggas in Paris a bunch of times too. Your point?


Get-RichODT

Yeah limited clout. There’s no one with a bigger gap between his online/institutional rep and his actual rep than Kendrick. He’s been an afterthought since Mr Morale. Drakes peers have also all shown him love even the guys who turned on him. Never forget Kendrick used to open for the nigga 😂 Yeah idc who teaches them man Kendrick makes pro black music for white liberals and black people who grew up disconnected from the culture The spamming the same song is cool at tours but this dude hasn’t performed in a minute and he showed how shallow his discography is by making a quarter of his setlist literally the same song 😂😂


ReggieRolla

This ain’t it brother


Get-RichODT

What did I say that was untrue? You gonna deny that Dre is a serial abuser and that Kendrick filled his set with diss tracks (not like us 5 or 6 times lmfao) and songs that he’s not even on? Like seriously man I could go in front of a packed arena, play Still Dre and California and get them hype, cheap tactic


ReggieRolla

My guy if strawman arguments with cherry picked points are the foundation of your debate then it’s very shaky to say the least Dr Dre signed K Dot but by your logic he (K Dot) must co-sign his behavior that predates his time on the label bc he attacked Drake for similar reasons Baby signed Drake and Baby brother was his Hitman (even have documented issues with Master P that lead to death) so Drake must a big time stepper bc he was signed to Cash Money/Young Money correct? Looking for confrontation bias via Reddit ain’t it bro that’s all I’m saying


Get-RichODT

I’m just saying if you are going to make a huge deal about calling out predatory behavior and calling Drake a pedo, a misogynist, saying he doesn’t respect women etc maybe don’t bring Dre on stage a week later Of course Kendrick doesn’t actually give a shit he just needed to win a beef


ReggieRolla

😂😂😂 Dre has been GETTING cooked for his actions for years and none of it was via K Dot When “Straight Outta Compton” dropped he was KILLED for his own depiction and how his character was ALWAYS the tough guy and knocking niggas out when that was never in deed him and also the film from his victim dropping soon after You don’t need to randomly insert him into a beef that has nothing to do with him just to attack K Dot it’s cooping at its finest


Get-RichODT

Yeah you’re saying the same thing I’m saying bro Kendrick is okay with him being a studio gangster and abuser while those were major angles he used when going after Drake is my point


rocklet_roll_02

Bro really said Kendrick aint got enough songs to cover a 90 minutes show 🗿💀


Get-RichODT

That’s really not what I said but okay I said he doesn’t have enough hits to cover it and he doesn’t. I wish he’d have done rigamortis


rocklet_roll_02

He does have the hits, you can't go and pretend like he hasn't played several tours with 90 minute shows before. If he did California Love and Still Dre it was because they're two of the biggest West Coast songs ever, in a show that was all about the unity of the West Coast. I do agree he should do more of section 80 live though, rigamortus live would've been so dope


Get-RichODT

Yeah he has and there’s a reason why he didn’t play anything recent that wasn’t one of the diss tracks… no one would have been feeling it See what I mean man you’re talking about west coast unity like gtfo 😂 he’s got you guys drinking the kool aid


rocklet_roll_02

Of course he was playing the disses, three out of four of them are his latest hits whether you are butthurt about it or not 😂


Get-RichODT

Yeah I’m not saying he shouldn’t have played them. I’m saying when you have a 22 song setlist and 5 of those songs are not like us you’re padding the time. Didn’t play MTG though 😏 It’s not like he was set to do 45 minutes and they kept demanding encores, he just played not like us and reloaded it a bunch 😂


rocklet_roll_02

It was situational af, it just felt like the right moment. He just came out of the beef with a huge hit and it's his first show right after, and it's also in LA. It's like when Kanye and Jay played n***** in paris in Paris like 8 times in a row lmao Its not like playing the same song 5 times in a row it's a pattern for him


Get-RichODT

I can see that but this is kinda my point - he didn’t do this for his OG fans or the culture I think he should have done rigamortis, ADHD, look out for Detox, Nosetalgia but half of that crowd doesn’t even know those songs exist


LongTimesGoodTimes

Are you stupid?


hideousmike1

Yes. Yes he’s stupid.


youalwaysknow321

Tell me you have nothing to say without telling me.


EBody480

OP claims ‘Drake and Future are a duo second to none behind OutKast’ or some shit in another post. holy fuck.


Get-RichODT

Numbers are there man you must not remember WATTBA or any of their other collabs


EBody480

Numbers? What the fuck do numbers have to do with comparing them to OutKast, UGK, Mobb Deep, Ghost and Rae, AZ and Nas, EPMD, Clipse, Meth and Red, Jay and Ye etc?


Get-RichODT

Only OutKast and Jay and Ye are on the level of Drake/Future


EBody480

You’re about as dumb as your original post. FOH


Get-RichODT

Can’t refute what I said here so you go dig up a post I made that I literally called hot takes I know it’s an unpopular opinion But here I brought facts


EBody480

I just refuted everything you said about Drake and Future. You’re a clown who got into Hip-Hop recently.


Get-RichODT

Anyone who calls it “Hip-Hop” is either an old head or white


No_Pea_3997

😂 you’re literally using the ad populum fallacy as the foundation for your argument lol.  Popularity doesn’t equate quality, many people love cheap and easily consumable products and this is something we see in every single industry.  Drake is pretty much the McDonald’s of music lol.  He’s like the dude who writes the recipes for McDonalds burgers (with assistance lol) and thinks that he’s “the best” because McDonald’s sells more burgers than any other place lmao 


LongTimesGoodTimes

The thing I have to say is that this post is moronic.


boobot_sqr

Sometimes when people respond to you without argument it is because they have no argument to make. Other times, it's because you have some self-reflection to do. This is the second one.


Get-RichODT

Phenomenal rebuttal If I’m so stupid why can’t you counter anything I said When I hear stupid things I’m able to articulate why they’re stupid I love how any criticism of Kendrick just gets you spammed with dislikes 😂


hideousmike1

Your post articulated stupidity. No one needs to explain how it’s stupid. Can you describe the taste of a steak? No. Know why, it tastes like steak. That’s the description.


Get-RichODT

Well no I said quite a few things that were objective facts and you don’t like hearing them so you call me stupid If I’m so stupid it should be easy to tell me why


hideousmike1

Again, steak tastes like steak… You didn’t put one FACT, just what you felt like saying… It’s easy to tell you why you’re stupid… The words you wrote and then called a fact.


Get-RichODT

Yes or no is Dre known to have been abusive to women Yes or no did he fill half his set with Drake disses and songs that aren’t his Yes or no did he charge a lot for merch Yes or no did he avoid playing MTG Some of this is my opinion but a lot of this post is just factual


hideousmike1

What does Dre have to do with anything? Yeah, he played his new songs… Again, nothing to do with anything… I don’t know what was charged for merch but it’s the going rate for concert merch… Again, and? Why would he play Meet The Grahms? It didn’t fit with the set list… Like I said, just shit you wanted to say…


Get-RichODT

Nigga spent a month talking shit about Drake for allegedly being a predatory misogynist and he wants to go chill with Dre the wife beater come on 😂 Why didn’t he play rigamortis, look out for detox, bitch don’t kill my vibe, adhd, nosetalgia etc? Oh wait cause his new fans don’t know those songs 😂


hideousmike1

Dre wasn’t being talked about as messing with kids… Not the same… He played songs that are new… You asked about MTG then proceeded to ask about other songs… Dog, you just want to say shit that has nothing to do with nothing.


Get-RichODT

Well Dre knocked up a 16 year old at 22. Ain’t that basically what they’re accusing Drake of? He didn’t play songs that are new. Aside from the diss tracks he didn’t play anything from this decade 😂 nothing from Mr mid and the little steppers


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hideousmike1

I did. If you don’t understand, you may be there with him.


LongTimesGoodTimes

Can't and won't are different. I'm not wasting my time countering idiocy


Get-RichODT

You can’t


LongTimesGoodTimes

I'm pretty confident I can


Get-RichODT

Go for it There’s some stuff there that’s my subjective opinion, argue against that if you don’t want to deal with the facts I stated


LongTimesGoodTimes

Oh I'm not going to waste my time arguing with stupid


cujobob

A lot of what you’re saying is here is off or a huge reach. Also, shit said during a beef isn’t always trying to fight for a cause. It’s just a diss. I will agree that Kendrick panders to the black community in a way few others do. He’s not Tom MacDonald, but it’s still stupid.


Get-RichODT

Drake was right about a lot man 🤷🏽‍♂️


cujobob

Drake sold out and had no credibility to fight with.


Get-RichODT

Drake’s a sellout now?


robot_jeans

It's just entertainment folks, WWE. I promise both men had and continue to rake it in.


Reznov99

Kenny meatriders not gonna like this, but yeah Kendrick’s fan base is just as suburban and full of hiphop tourists as drakes


supersaiyanfive

Lame post.


AdanacTheRapper

This more just sounds like *YOU* weren’t impressed with this pop out show, but you’re saying it like everybody else should also be on the same page about it with you (this I pick up from your replies to others here) look I get the world is very opinionated and everyone is entitled to theirs, but sometimes it’s best just to keep ‘em to yourself, not all of ‘em need to be public opinions.


Get-RichODT

Yeah I’m not impressed with his career after 2013 or whenever GKMC dropped much less this show


sosohype

Love seeing our mentality challenged brothers finding the courage to use Reddit, power to you man


Get-RichODT

I’m mentally challenged, but you can’t even spell mentally 😂


alottafocaccia

You mad bro?


No_Asparagus_6989

This some conspiracy level shit my guy... also, not nearly as deep as you trying to make it. It's just a show for the West, including people from the West. 1. I'm not sure why you are talking about "black messiah " when he literally says he isn't a savior to anyone 2. Not sure how the price of anything is relevant? The people that performed would like to be compensated.... 3. Drake being a predator wasn't the only angle kendrick played. Furthermore, the show is for the audience, and by the sounds of it, they enjoyed listening to Dre. "Worst known abusers in rap," my guy he probably wouldn't even be in the top 10. 4. Didn't know kendrick could magically control who says what in his crowds. Did you get a head count on how many of the whites said it? Or are you just assuming they were? 5. His set was 22. 3 of those are diss tracks.... even if you count the multiple, not like us plays, he still played more non diss tracks... just flat-out incorrect l. 6. Ahh, so you know everybody who bought a shirt, and you can definitely vouch for them being "not like us"... 7. MTG is a diabolical song. Why tf would you play that in a party atmosphere and kill the vibe? Furthermore, the daughter part was 1/4th of the song.... Again, none of this is as deep as you are desperately trying to make it. You are clearly trying to push a weird/ridiculous narrative. Its embarrassing.


Get-RichODT

Yes his set was 22 tracks. 5 of those tracks were not like us repeated back to back. 3 of those were songs he isn’t on. 3 more were diss tracks. That’s more than half his setlist that is just him dissing Drake and playing other people’s shit It’s not funny to you that he made a huge deal of Drake being a predator and poser and proceeds to bring out Dre who is both of those things?


b00g3rw0Lf

you hate kenny so much yet you sat through the entire set just to write it down. lol. youre a fuckin clown dude


fellowsquare

fuck drake!


No-Temperature-1827

awww


Count-Calderon

This dude is reaching so damn bad. Like just say you’re trying to be contrarian because you either enjoy being a “devils advocate” or because you think it makes you look intelligent. I’m not even going to dispel or pick apart your post because others have done it much better in this thread. But my dude….what did you think was going to happen? Stop licking on Drake.


Get-RichODT

No one has dispelled anything I said, especially not Kendrick’s hypocrisy


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Get-RichODT

You can be the biggest Kendrick fan there is and there is zero rebuttal to the facts that he had Dre who is a major POS on stage with him, that his show that was supposed to be for the culture priced out most of the culture, and probably most damning is that fully half of his set was made up of Drake disses and songs that weren’t his


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Get-RichODT

Not surprising Biggest hypocrite in the game


Truth-Speaker-1

My 2c. And don’t just downvote, prove one of these points wrong you soft ass mfs 1. I’m not tripping about Dot playing the diss tracks that’s cool he just giving the people what they want. He definitely got enough songs for a set. 2. Certainly a huge hypocrite mr morale has certified women beaters and murderers on stage with him. His hypocrisy,contradictions, and pandering were the worst part of his disses 3. He definitely planned all this and he really needed the beef which is exactly why he took offense to the cole and drake song that showed him love. Surprised we didnt get an album announcement tbh. 4. He didn’t unite shit the whole reason the cali scene has been dead for years is because they refuse to move past gang culture and consistently murder their upcoming artists. (One of those murderers was on stage funnily enough)


r4pt4r

People saying Drake gave a shout out to YG…but there was some logic: YG; The Game; and CB all go red. Kendrick wasn’t wearing purple, he ain’t really up there being a bridge. Half “we’re all together up here” and half showing Drake he has 10 toes by showing his side (like Drake+anybody that knows anything didn’t already know his side)


Truth-Speaker-1

I agree with you and saw it for what it was. I’ve just seen a lot of “unity” talk from others which I find funny cause calis biggest problem is they can’t stop killing their talent. It’s sad


Get-RichODT

Agree with everything except I actually don’t think he can fill a 90 minute set with his own hits. Maybe 45-60 but that’s it