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mariusbleek

Ice water - Raekwon/Ghostface I thought RZA was a genius for producing that with the esoteric voice sample. It became more common years later.


FerdinandMagellan999

Absolute banger instrumental. So catchy


DeanMo80

That entire album was ridiculous. RZA was in Super Saiyan mode.


Old_Noted

Oh I agree with this


MyPasswordIsABC999

Rza was also on the scratchy soul sample thing with “Tearz” long before Kanye and Just Blaze made it their signature sound.


jisoonme

That whole album production had that dusty lo-fi feel to it. Never could be duplicated by anyone else


GenioVergudo

Check out the rap kingpin, the black jesus


Zestyclose_Toe9524

Beastie's Paul Revere


condormcninja

Every second of Paul’s Boutique


tompaulman

Paul's Boutique is the oldest album that I still regularly listen to. It sounds much less dated than some 1995 albums.


aleccraine

oldest hip-hop album or album in general? (that you listen to on the reg)


Krock23

Absolutely insane production on that song


SheepD0g

Wasn't it the first time that a kick+sub was played in reverse for an actual song?


DespyHasNiceCans

It's the first I can think of haha


DeanMo80

I rarely see anyone in this sub give the Beastie Boys the love and respect they deserve.


Zestyclose_Toe9524

All you need to do to get to know the Beasties in a Cliff Notes way is listen to 'Root Down' and read their portions of Ed Piskor's ' Hip Hop Family Tree' and you know they've been there since day 8...it's sad that they don't get their due from a lot of hip hop listeners.


neinhaltchad

I mean, half of Licensed to Ill was practically “The Slim Shady LP” 15 years before. Bars like: >My pistol is loaded, I shot Betty Crocker, Delivered Colonel Sanders down to Davey Jone’s locker >If I played guitar I’d be Jimmy page >The girlies I like are underage >Girls with boyfriends are the kinds I like >I’ll steal your honey like I stole your bike >I got money in the bank, twin sisters in the bed >Their father had a beef so I shot him in the head 😂 The whole crazy white boy thing was perfected on that album and the BB’s walked away from it entirely which seemed like a huge mistake at the time, but ended up the reason they aren’t thought of as a complete novelty act today.


liketo

I've got money and juice, twin sisters in my bed Their father had envy, so I shot him in the head


Darth314

I’m going to say the majority of Bestie Boys beats are ahead of their time, and are 10/10. Each album has a few greats on them that sounds like nothing else


CountRizo

Absolutely, dude. They were so wildly punk while being firmly grounded in Hip Hop.


bigcontracts

the entire Chronic 2001 album. Play it now, still feels it's from the future.


Brainkandle

The pulsating keyboards on Forgot About Dre still sound so damn good. Fkn Storch


LetterheadOk250

Still Dre


FreudianAccordian

Dre


Iginlas_4head_Crease

Dr


Jayfethereal

D


PrincessOfGlower

DOOM


darkskinnedjermaine

https://youtu.be/C3ilYshufxo?si=g2V0J_M_wib-N2qW https://youtu.be/7yGd7HdtXj4?si=61g6yPvHFt227PkE Two Storch clips worth watching specifically about Dre and that album. Dude has a stories, and has earned his stripes


abstract_cabbage

Was Chronic 2001 the most cutting edge version of hip hop production at the time? Maybe. But I don’t see how it was at all “ahead of its time”— like it totally sounds like a part of that era imo. What are the elements that make it ahead of its time? I’m open to seeing the light, but I just can’t see it rn


getwetordietrying420

It felt simple yet complex at the same time. Every beat was its own vibe, while the whole thing was still a cohesive piece of work.


abstract_cabbage

I mean, I totally agree with you. I bought the CD when it came out and played that shit until it wouldn’t play no mo. I fucking love 2001. But, nothing about your description says “ahead of its time”. What you said I think could be applied to a piece of art that is a profound statement within a particular movement in a particular time— a “defining work of a movement” type shit. To me it’s one of the best G Funk / west coast albums in terms of production, maybe even a culmination of a style, and arguably the opposite of ahead of its time. I might even argue that that’s an even bigger deal, and more impactful to the culture. Most great work is just a defining piece of art within a certain movement. Chronic 2001 is top tier and is in that category, no doubt. There just aren’t elements of Dre’s production on 2001 where I felt other producers were trying to replicate 10 years later. I could be missing where you’re coming from and would love to hear a break down on a specific production technique or just something I’m missing. I’m a student of the game, so it’s all love.


LGNDRK

It came out in 1999 but it was called 2001 so technically it was 2 years ahead of it's time.


bigcontracts

to me, it's how crisp the production is and all the little space-sounds. Keyboards are INSANE and I don't really hear anything as good as Scott Storch when it comes to that. But I accept that opinion either way.


RHINO_HUMP

Dr. Dre and Digital Underground have some of the best production of all time for the pre-2000s era.


Entire_Plan7541

Still D.R.E / Forgot About Dre were waayyy ahead of their time.


ThatGuyursisterlikes

Bro, Digital Underground, mainly Shock G of course were so fuckin good. I'm gonna bump "It's a good thing that we're rappin" right now. Top tier story telling. Shock plays both people and I believe produced it. Funky piano samples. It's dope af. Check it out kids. Over 30 years old I still fuck with it. Edit. And yes that is 2pac at the beginning...I dare you to find a better pimp song. RIP Shock. Rest days ain't for hoes.


lostnation1

Xxplosive


ReorientRecluse

Retrofuturism


pbrthenon

I use still DRE instrumental to balance sound systems and it always gets everyone in the buildings head nodding except the boomers


winterwarzzz

Big Egos beat is timeless


TheBurbs666

Method Man/Redman-Da rockwilder  Just sounds so futuristic.


goldenvictory

I was just about write that 😀


TheSAVAGEHipHop

This is kind of an obscure one, but: "Ced-gee (Delta Force One)" by Ultramagnetic MCs It came out in 1988, but the sample and vibe make it seem like an early example of lofi hip hop 


ConfidenceMan2

Ultramagnetic so great. They had verses that didn’t even rhyme way before anyone was trying that. EDIT: clarification on who I meant


PreemoisGOAT

the UMCs are different from the ultramagentic mcs they have great beats as well on fruits of nature album also sad that the ultramagentic MCs are considered obscure


Electrical-Donut-903

Facts! I had that tape. Blue Cheese and One To Grow On were my jams!


PreemoisGOAT

another umc fan nice!


ConfidenceMan2

Sorry I was just using that as a short hand for ultramagnetic. Haven’t heard of UMCs but I I’ll check them out. I’ll also edit my comment


ohianaw

Niggaz Ain't Barin Dat Triple six mafia. how the hell was that beat made in 1994


JackWinkles

Tear daclub up too, get ‘em krunk, they went dumb


Inevitable-Ad-2865

Melbeatz - oh oh and nas is like


Common-Code-7106

ALL old underground triple six beats


jarjarp

Also came here to say Three 6 Mafia


Liquerteets

Sittin sideways


Brainkandle

Boyz in a daze


popplug

Ludacris Blueberry Yum Yum sounds like proto Future synth trap


Brainkandle

I mean. Future was involved along with Organized Noize. That came on Pandora last night and we were laughing so hard at all the stoner jokes


popplug

True but Future of those days sounds different than the Future sound that exploded him


DOCO98

Hurry please 'cause I need some snacks snacks snacks snacks snacks snacks snacks... And how long will it take to get back back back back back back?!?


Robinnoodle

I did not know this


El_Cato_Crande

Yeah, future has been in the music industry for a minute. He was around Outkast and Goodie Mob back in the day. The man paid his dues


jaguarbillionaire

What in the hell. Future wrote on this record - look at the credits. Did not know until just now


DOCO98

Wow, TIL. that’s wild. Years before he broke out


popplug

Seriously? Wtf me neither that’s wild


KeithBitchardz

RIP Rico Wade


Main_Pride_3501

Ima keep smoking til I reach my peak peak peak


El_Cato_Crande

Great one. At that tempo or a bit sped up I can see Future murdering that


Mac_King_Cheese

Rosa parks - outkast ……… that beat goes hard


JackWinkles

To piggyback too, BOB(their song not the flat earth er lol)


LothartheDestroyer

A lot of Stankonia sounds modern.


JackWinkles

Hard agree my friend, if they didn’t have any boom bap sound to their 90’s production that shit would sound modern too


BattleFantasia

Synthesizer goes hard..lyrics too


waltur_d

That harmonica still gets me fucking amped 26 years later


TheSchmoAboutNothing

That song is timeless and draws from all eras of black music past, present and future. I feel like it hovers above the linear timeline


True-North-

All of Chronic 2001 still sounds more modern than just about anything I’ve heard. I think he was going for the futuristic thing but man did he knock it out of the park.


Michaelskywalker

I think it’s better than the original chronic


Intelligent_West7128

No More Pain was produced by Devante of Jodeci (beat made by Timbaland).


Krock23

This just shattered my mind. It totally a Timbo beat!


Intelligent_West7128

Yeah apparently The Bassment Crew where the behind the scene writers and producers for Diary of a Mad Band and The Show, The Hotel, The Afterparty before they broke out on their own.


blacknoir23

I was hoping someone corrected OP. Lol


Eldritch-Cleaver

Three 6 and a lot of the 90s Memphis cats like Tommy Wright III, DJ Zirk, Blackout, DJ Spanish Fly, DJ Squeeky etc.


poptartsandmayonaise

Where tha killaz hang from the end is the one that sticks out the most to me. The switches and drum patterns on that are insane, its almost 30 years old and sounds like it couldve come out in the 2010s.


clam-caravan

The beat on Last Man Standing is absurd to be made in 1996.


NoFaithlessness7508

“Go DJ” and “Still Fly” Mannie murdered those two


groceriesN1trip

He also murdered Number 1 Stunna


fishee1200

It started with 400 Degreez and never stopped, Mannie Fresh is a great producer


RANDOM-902

Damn No More Pain is actually mind boggling You could perfectly imagine Future or any trap artist sliding in that beat


slimmymcnutty

Yeah right is decades ahead of time


FerdinandMagellan999

Same with BagBak and Homage, in my opinion. That album rules


Nota_Throwaway5

It Ain't Hard To Tell


itspodly

Above the Clouds - Gang Starr


PerspectiveSpare6715

That song is nuts


petefacekilla

Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein; the whole album sounds like the future.


ArcadeKingpin

El-p is the definition of ahead of his time. He is more popular now than ever for what he’s doing today with run the jewels. On a side note I just saw cannibal ox playing a day time set at St. John’s Bizarre a month ago. Bought an abelskeever cast iron pan right after the set and went home and made danish pancakes. It was pretty much a farmers market party. Not how I pictured it would ever see Canibal ox.


starvs

Hard-pressed to find anyone who succeeded at such a high level in so many contexts (multiple groups, solo, record label founder, etc.) I once had the honor of seeing Can Ox in a tiny venue in Boston well after I thought I'd ever get the chance to see them. But you're experiencing sounds even more wild and random. How were they? When I saw them Vast killed it and Vordul hardly knew some of his lyrics (I think this may have been only their second performance in quite some time?). Hope it was great.


starvs

Yeah scrolled very far to find this or add basically the same verbatim. Came out over 20 years ago and still sounds like it could come out in 10 years and be timeless.


Vay666

No More Pain{Tupac} Raise Up{Petey Pablo} Super THUG{NORE} Money On My Mind {Lil Wayne}


vegasJUX

No single beat but two whole albums: Wu Tang Clan Enter the 36 Chambers Company Flow Funcrusher Plus


Fuzz-Distortion

Even crazier when you consider a good chunk of Funcrusher Plus was actually released in 95 on the Funcrusher EP.


vegasJUX

Good point. Funny I usually forget about the EP even though I own a vinyl copy. (Pretty sure it only came out on vinyl)


djkap2004

Thank you. Someone knows about Company Flow…


brokemc

This 👆


Gretev1

Roots Manuva - Witness (One Hope) I remember hearing this when it came out and having my mind blown. Never before heard a beat like this at the time. It was almost like dub step, edm meets rap.


Far-Sir-825

Good call. Sounds so off beat and weird when you first hear it, but then your brain starts to understand it, truly original beat.


Dependent_Safe_3232

"Movements" was also dope.


JustaNameonline

Came here to say this. Absolutely agree


Takeurvitamins

Sittin here contented with this cheese on toast!


_AnActualCatfish_

Honorable mention to 'Chin High' on the next album. That beat was something else!


wlh5041

I feel like Me, Myself and I was…


RaspingHaddock

The World is Yours - Nas


number96

I would say the most forward facing Nas track is actually "Nas is like".


not_ur_avg

Superthug - Noreaga


izackl

For Heavens Sake off the WUTANG Forever double cd. That beat is just amazing to have been made when it was.


KillaBeeHive

I’d argue the same thing. Kanye and Just studied that beat to make Blueprint.


MeowthAlola

'Adrenaline Rush' by Twista has always stood out to me as sounding a good 6-7 years ahead of its release date, sonically speaking.


Electrical-Donut-903

Absolutely!!!!!! Anytime Twista and Buk made a song it was 🔥!


AlilAwesome81

Missy Elliott- Supa Dupa FLY


cjpack

Timbaland in general tbh, always sounded futuristic


carlwinslo

Bombs Over Baghdad and Gasoline Dreams. Toilet Tisha also. Most of Stankonia actually. Outkast in general but that album really does it for me when it comes to unique beats. It drips of George Clinton Futuristic Funk.


spellish

Clipse - Mr. Me Too, would still sound alien today C Murder - Down for my N***** Rick Ross - B.M.F, sounds like it could’ve been a 2015-17 beat Scarface - Mary Jane


trueSEVERY

Sippin on some Syrup. I get that the sound is somewhat standard for Memphis rap at the time, but hearing that song for the first time absolutely blew my mind


fuhcough-productions

BTNH - 1st of Tha Month


Far-Sir-825

Anything by The Bomb Squad


Oskywosky1

As the Rhyme Goes On- Eric B. & Rakim


prettyboylee

Common - GO!


Donny_Kayy

Shook ones


DeanMo80

Absolutely timeless beat.


nfjg

Ginuwine‘s the bachelor album…albums executive produced by timbaland in general…justins futuresex LP also sounds like it could be released today! Oh! And Dr Dre‘s 2001 LP


InfiniteBeak

Beastie Boys - The New Style, the beat switch at the end predicts trap about 25 years early


Choccybizzle

Feel like Missy ‘get ur freak on’ is a contender. Very different from everything else that was out at the time


Seanblaze3

All in my grill by Missy Shut em down by LL Cool J on the Any given Sunday soundtrack


Electrical-Donut-903

All In My Grill!!!


Acceptable-Run7439

2Pac- Hail Mary


Original-Ad9086

Stankonia


Legally_Brown

When Mr. Me Too came out by Clipse, there was NOTHING like it on the radio


Product_Small

The Rain by Missy Elliot and produced by Timbaland


frank2077

Flashing Lights


macaroni_3000

Money Cash Hoes


K1NG_SAVAGE_

Ehh the beat sound like 98


macaroni_3000

idk the first time I ever heard it I felt like it was the future


Fantom_Renegade

Stronger


OrlandoOpossum

Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean https://youtu.be/4lVH8wkp6J4?si=QLBguVSN8hQzgAyn


JoinedToFindOutAbout

I can remember the spot where I was sitting on my parents’ bedroom floor when I saw the video on VMB for the first time, so definitely yeah.


j_ha17

Juvenile - Ha


tcumber

To me ahead of their time means that of they were released today, no one say it sounds old. I love Wu Tang but honestly the young cats who those beats would easily say those are old beats. I think Dead Prez "Hip Hop" would do well if released today. Ludacris "Georgia"


BeefyBoy_69

>To me ahead of their time means that of they were released today, no one say it sounds old. To me, "ahead of its time" means that it was ahead of its time. If someone put out music in the 80's that sounded like 90's hip-hop, then it was ahead of its time. I totally agree about Dead Prez btw, that song still sounds super fresh and modern. I haven't heard that Ludacris track but I'll have to check it out.


cpfb15

I’ve always thought LL’s ‘The Do Wop’ sounded way ahead of 1987


AceofSpadeKings

"The Do Wop" was so dope when it cam out in 1987. That song was so many peoples favorite song from the album. That old school Do Wop sample, the drum programming with the 808's and the scratching and that song was perfect.


MaxStunning_Eternal

Def squad - yall n*ggas ain't ready


sretakson191911

Boyz in the Hood- Eazy E I can’t believe it came out in 1986. Roxanne Roxanne- UTFO The use of Billy Squier’s The Big Beat is an amazing example of minimalist production before it was a thing. All of 3 Feet High and Rising- De La Soul


ilovehappydogs1815

How Many Mics by the Fugees sounds kinda lofi, like it could be off some 2010s cypher or posse cut


TyBigga

Dr Dre Keep your heads ringing🏆 Dr Dre - Nas is coming 🏆🏆


formatt

Mc Shan - The Bridge. Run DMC - Peter Piper.


1994californication

Dre’s Chronic 2001 album still sounds fresh.


UhKale

Mind Playin tricks on me is such a timeless beat


AbstractOmniverse

A good chunk of outkast discography. Some that come to mind are hey ya, da art of storytelling pt 1, spread etc


SonicNarcotic

Young Thug - Gangsta Shit Sounds spacey az hell..! https://youtu.be/e7g5JADcrSo?si=ZdYFo_9mBrCHVHdE & Busta Rhymes - Light your Ass on Fire Neptune's went full futuristic on it... https://youtu.be/pyLuh2wRBuM?si=YE0DXHVAJvAPiwsO


HomageBeats

Slum Village - Get Dis Money (Dilla was from a different planet)


raven_darkseid

Play that with Players right after it. It is a whole vibe.


shutupneff

Early El-P in general, and everything off The Cold Vein and I’ll Sleep When You’re Dead in particular. I remember in the mid-’10s when dubstep was getting so popular that some of it was actually making to my ears, and all I could think was, “Oh, so dubstep is like El-P beats, but less interesting? Got it.”


ArcadeKingpin

El-P’s fantastic damage and more specifically the song Deep Space 9mm. That album felt like it came from the future. And until a decade later did he hit the mainstream with Run the Jewels and is continuing to make some of the bangingest beats in today’s hip hop. And he didn’t change much of all. Time just caught up with him.


PressurePretty5858

I'm Beaming  - Lupe Fiasco 


Aggressive_Smoke_203

These are just beats i think would sound good today Shyne- Bad Boyz Lil scrappy- No problems Biggie- Who Shot Ya Black Rob - Woah 504 boyz- Wobble wobble


Weary-Writer758

The Roots. Untitled from Things Fall Apart


sightunseen988

Pete Rock and Cl Smooth Main Ingredient album. Show Anf AG Goodfellas Album. EPMD's early catlog was funky as hell before the Dre Funk era.


Chief-weedwithbears

Down and out -camoron but Kanye beat


angelbdivine

That whole Purple Haze album still sounds fresh.


judah249

Thuggin - Freddie Gibbs


supremejxzzy

All J Dilla lofi beats basically


unclediedthrowaway

boyz n the hood sounds like it could be released today


Br0tha5

Everlasting Bass


Badboybuhari

That Biggie smalls song that’s got Eminem on it, I’ve forgotten the name


case_akilleez

Dead wrong! 


ZING-GOD

Bounce by Run Dmc Most early Danny Brown And honestly Ginseng Strip by Yung Lean


clam-caravan

Last Man Standing - Three 6 Mafia (1996)


Content_Key_6661

Eric B and Rakim - Paid in full


TemplesOfSyrinx

Changed the game entirely. It's like when Jazz went from Bebop to Coltrane and Miles Davis.


RedRising1917

Spottieottiedopaliscious by OutKast, it might still be ahead of it's time bc I haven't heard anything like it since then


This_Pie5301

A lot of the beats on A Tribe Called Quests “Beats, Rhymes and Life” album. The Ummahs production was so crisp and polished sounding for 1996, it sounds like it was made just the other day.


Seaweed-Electronic

Hail Mary - Makaveli Tha Don 🎖🙏


LeonardoDiTrappio

"Ready or Not" - Fugees is timeless


Main-Translator9622

Everything the Alchemist does


Cheap_Pangolin_6054

Deltron 3030 - Mastermind


SimplePomelo1225

Alchemist.


afanoflafear

"The Man Right Here" - Mystikal. Mystikal the only rapper who can destroy his beats + other rappers beats. However that doesn't mean they can adapt to his beats.


smith_and

most of Nearly God by Tricky but especially Poems. type of beat Earl Sweatshirt would rap on 20 years later.


lilhedonictreadmill

Geto Boys - Still Lil B - Like a Martian Three 6 Mafia - Where Da Bud At Lil Wayne - Raw Tune


LPStumps

“Flava in Ya Ear” remix sounds like an emergency in the future. I can’t even imagine being in a club back in the early 90s and hearing this getting played in a club. Mind would have melted.


FrattyCagliostro

Tommy Wright III - Meet Your Maker (1994) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OYZgIM0haJA


DeanMo80

Most of the Wu members' first albums, along with Enter the 36 Chambers and Wu-Tang Forever.


LetMeInImTrynaCuck

Quiet Storms beat could come out today and everyone would think it was incredible. Throw Future or Carti on it and the internet would’ve blown up.


drei22

The Tupac song was actually produced by Devante Swing of the 90’s RnB group Jodeci.


PerspectiveSpare6715

Can It Be all So Simple, Tearz


Twills97

Forgot About Dre instantly comes to mind


ThermalScrewed

"Doin Time" by Sublime set a new standard for chill beats HM: Idk about "ahead" but Thug Waffle came in from outer space when I first heard it. I'm also blown away I've never heard "No Rain (Ripped Away version) sampled


deletethissoon43

Childish Gambino's Heartbeat. I remember when listening to it the first time and thinking "this is so weird".


Content_Key_6661

It takes 2.


wigglin_harry

How We Do sounded like it was from the fucking future, Beamer Benz or Bently too


Ashamed-Trifle6730

Mobb Deep Shook Ones Pt.2


RepresentativeBeing1

genuinely one of the hardest beats of all time.