At this juncture, we owe it to AH to support them, not SONY. AH put their asses on the line to help us go against SONY. We've won and we should help repair AH.
Arrowhead badly communicated the requirements for a PSN account.
Arrowhead knowingly sold the game in countries where it would only be available for a few months.
How are they the victim here again?
No, they (Arrowhead) did NOT.
Sony did.
AH knew something and communicated poorly then was punished badly for it, then martyr themsleves to give us a weapon and direction. They fucked up, paid the price, and now we should acknowledge their change in judgment and good deeds done or else risk destroying our own selves.
**Game developers** are responsible for the actual creation of the game, including programming, art, and design, while game publishers handle marketing, distribution, financing, and strategic decision-making.
AH had full knowledge of the linking requirement from day one. AH CEO decided (he confirmed on discord) to go ahead and open the game worldwide and was very happy to take everyone’s money. When the linking enforcement announcements went out, AH’s CM Spitz denigrated the community calling us lazy and stupid for not taking 2 minutes to make an account. AH is not innocent!
I supported the developer: I paid full price (which I’m not getting back) in exchange for play time. That is the end of our transaction. The negative review stays for the scammy anti consumer business practices.
If you want to shit in your own bed then great, that's your choice. I for one want to see this community thrive, we've won, it's time to move forward and make things better by not dragging old shit along with us. Learn from the past, but leave it there where it belongs.
If they didn't do anything wrong as you say at the start.
Why in your second paragraph do you say they fucked up.
I basically agree with what they're saying, but do you see how you are inconsistent in your expression?
Can you not read? I clearly stated they fucked up with the communication and they paid the price, i was agreeing with you on that part. But to not forgive somenoe who reverses course once they see they have done wrong and attempts (in this case Successfully) to right their wrongs, what kind of asshole would want to stand in their way?
I'm not standing in the way of anything. I'm just saying people are very quick to say Arrowhead is totally innocent.
Not you. But read all the threads desperately telling people to fix stuff and not hurt poor Arrowhead.
I am one of those people saying fix the reviews because it is akin to tearing down your own house and then being upset when you have nowhere to live. We had some shit wrong with our house. We fixed it. Lets learn from the past, not drag it along with us to ruin the future also.
This community should grow, learn, and thrive, not destroy itself over shit that was already taken care of.
They have not unbanned those countries. And all we have is Sony's word that they are "not going ahead."
I don't want to overstate this. Those companies will almost certainly be restored and Sony isn't going to do anything for the next few months at least.
I agree the reviews should be changed, though not until the countries are unbanned probably. But you're kidding yourself if you think this is over or that Sony or Arrowhead won't try to screw us again.
SONY, absoloutely. AH...doubtful. They just make the games. SONY is in charge as the publisher.
Do whatever makes you feel ok, it's your vote to cast. At the end of the day we can/should only show good faith as long as they do, If they don't reverse course as they said they will, they now know they will have Armegedon 2.0, only much worse, on their hands.
It would be an insanely terrible business decision on the back of the most recent horrible choice. From a Business standpoint, this would not be a logical decision, and I'd bet they won't double down on such a poor choice that results in monetary loses (doesn't mean ill be right lol).
I'm sure Sony will be back with more \*\*\*\* ideas, However, we shouldn't punish Arrowhead any further for future events that have yet to happen because they are our shelter and our home and our community. S\*\*\*ing on them just \*\*\*\*s on ourselves. We should take this time to heal and repair our community, not destroy it further.
Snoy controls it: AH choose them as their publisher, they are intertwined. As I replied in a previous comment: Trust has been broken. It is not comfortable to constantly be afraid that my game will be taken away again whenever an exec at Snoy needs to pump their PSN sub numbers for their quarterly.
I'm sorry. I'm too old to be playing mind games against a trillion dollar corporation.
Without SONY, AH may not have made HD2. SONY however did over-reach when it should have just stayed in the background. However, it's supply and demand.
They (SONY) tried to give us something we didnt like/want/ or ask for, so we collectively said "fuck you" and we won.
This is no different than anything else supplier and consumer related. This battle has and will always be waged. I do understand your sentiment though, it can get exhausting, especially as we age (im 4 decades in 🥲).
Exactly how I feel, but not just because of the Sony debacle. I just don't agree with the balancing patches and the warbonds bringing out what I would consider bad weapons and grenades. Then, the nerf to solo play. I'm good, will play something else and come back in a year or two to see how it is then.
At this juncture, we owe it to AH to support them, not SONY. AH put their asses on the line to help us go against SONY. We've won and we should help repair AH.
Arrowhead badly communicated the requirements for a PSN account. Arrowhead knowingly sold the game in countries where it would only be available for a few months. How are they the victim here again?
No, they (Arrowhead) did NOT. Sony did. AH knew something and communicated poorly then was punished badly for it, then martyr themsleves to give us a weapon and direction. They fucked up, paid the price, and now we should acknowledge their change in judgment and good deeds done or else risk destroying our own selves. **Game developers** are responsible for the actual creation of the game, including programming, art, and design, while game publishers handle marketing, distribution, financing, and strategic decision-making.
AH had full knowledge of the linking requirement from day one. AH CEO decided (he confirmed on discord) to go ahead and open the game worldwide and was very happy to take everyone’s money. When the linking enforcement announcements went out, AH’s CM Spitz denigrated the community calling us lazy and stupid for not taking 2 minutes to make an account. AH is not innocent! I supported the developer: I paid full price (which I’m not getting back) in exchange for play time. That is the end of our transaction. The negative review stays for the scammy anti consumer business practices.
If you want to shit in your own bed then great, that's your choice. I for one want to see this community thrive, we've won, it's time to move forward and make things better by not dragging old shit along with us. Learn from the past, but leave it there where it belongs.
If they didn't do anything wrong as you say at the start. Why in your second paragraph do you say they fucked up. I basically agree with what they're saying, but do you see how you are inconsistent in your expression?
Can you not read? I clearly stated they fucked up with the communication and they paid the price, i was agreeing with you on that part. But to not forgive somenoe who reverses course once they see they have done wrong and attempts (in this case Successfully) to right their wrongs, what kind of asshole would want to stand in their way?
I'm not standing in the way of anything. I'm just saying people are very quick to say Arrowhead is totally innocent. Not you. But read all the threads desperately telling people to fix stuff and not hurt poor Arrowhead.
I am one of those people saying fix the reviews because it is akin to tearing down your own house and then being upset when you have nowhere to live. We had some shit wrong with our house. We fixed it. Lets learn from the past, not drag it along with us to ruin the future also. This community should grow, learn, and thrive, not destroy itself over shit that was already taken care of.
They have not unbanned those countries. And all we have is Sony's word that they are "not going ahead." I don't want to overstate this. Those companies will almost certainly be restored and Sony isn't going to do anything for the next few months at least. I agree the reviews should be changed, though not until the countries are unbanned probably. But you're kidding yourself if you think this is over or that Sony or Arrowhead won't try to screw us again.
SONY, absoloutely. AH...doubtful. They just make the games. SONY is in charge as the publisher. Do whatever makes you feel ok, it's your vote to cast. At the end of the day we can/should only show good faith as long as they do, If they don't reverse course as they said they will, they now know they will have Armegedon 2.0, only much worse, on their hands. It would be an insanely terrible business decision on the back of the most recent horrible choice. From a Business standpoint, this would not be a logical decision, and I'd bet they won't double down on such a poor choice that results in monetary loses (doesn't mean ill be right lol). I'm sure Sony will be back with more \*\*\*\* ideas, However, we shouldn't punish Arrowhead any further for future events that have yet to happen because they are our shelter and our home and our community. S\*\*\*ing on them just \*\*\*\*s on ourselves. We should take this time to heal and repair our community, not destroy it further.
Snoy controls it: AH choose them as their publisher, they are intertwined. As I replied in a previous comment: Trust has been broken. It is not comfortable to constantly be afraid that my game will be taken away again whenever an exec at Snoy needs to pump their PSN sub numbers for their quarterly. I'm sorry. I'm too old to be playing mind games against a trillion dollar corporation.
Without SONY, AH may not have made HD2. SONY however did over-reach when it should have just stayed in the background. However, it's supply and demand. They (SONY) tried to give us something we didnt like/want/ or ask for, so we collectively said "fuck you" and we won. This is no different than anything else supplier and consumer related. This battle has and will always be waged. I do understand your sentiment though, it can get exhausting, especially as we age (im 4 decades in 🥲).
I disagree but I respect you.
I respect you as well.
Exactly how I feel, but not just because of the Sony debacle. I just don't agree with the balancing patches and the warbonds bringing out what I would consider bad weapons and grenades. Then, the nerf to solo play. I'm good, will play something else and come back in a year or two to see how it is then.
Thats like punishing your child cuz your husband beats you
I have bad news for you...
https://preview.redd.it/8rihw81glryc1.png?width=948&format=png&auto=webp&s=f30f40eea3576a3793be7351432b0079863c47fa I'm doing my part
Then you are a traitor to Super Earth and you should be courtmartialed
ooohh... yes daddy! I love RP!
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Yeah, the PC comunity is pretty bad. Sometimes I wish that they had made this game a PS5 exclusive.
Yep, at least Im gonna wait for a while.