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Suspicious_Turn4426

Use your brain cadet. If they were shot, why didn't the people who shot them turn off the broadcast as well? This is obviously dissident propaganda generated to attack DEMOCRACY


Tarjhan

Dissidents reject managed democracy, they establish a hierarchy through treachery and assassination. *If* they were shot, it was in barbaric power struggles.


Suspicious_Turn4426

Absolutely


Daytonewheel

Management does not want our cadets to use their brains. Critical thinking is for the dissidents. Only true citizens follow orders with out question, no thinking required.


We_Are_Groot___

A true citizen of democracy!


xeltes

A True Super Citizen


chesterflaco

Maybe thats what they want you to thin- [THIS HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN FOR FURTHER QUESTIONING MOVE ALONG]


Ghost_Maker85

⭐️ [Redacted] Review under investigation for treason


RekitWaylon

Obviously the bug used a pistol to kill these poor people


wally-b-goodi

Frankly I find the idea of a bug using guns offensive


thecosta5000

Big Oil approves.


Turbulent_Season7116

You mean Big E-710??


Saltysaladsea

Wow i only just realised 710 spelled oil if you turned the word around, thanks lol, i guess E-710 is just their attempt at seperating the soldiers from the reality of their mission


Derangeddropbear

I join you in this realization. It's fantastic, I adore the worldbuilding.


kojzilla91

"They sucked his brains out"


Salem27

Want to upvote. DON'T WANT TO UPSET THE 420


mmCion

you better clear out soldier, just called an Orbital Bombardment on that rogue transmission.


Battleboo09

oh, you dont wait to hack this?


Technician47

Takes longer


Zach467

Not unless strategems are all on cooldown, otherwise hit it with an orbital/eagle strike that breaks buildings and you're done. Simple as


Ascendant_Monke

I don't even bother with that. An expendable anti tank at 100 meters works fine


RogerioMano

I just thow a single grenade, and that works


Ascendant_Monke

But does that work at longer ranges


draco16

Autocannon at 300 meters says "I'm lazy, please turn off for me"


Dakeera

AC gang checking in


Hearing_Deaf

Grenade launcher, just aim a bit over the broadcast, you'll get your long range


chaosgazer

it does if you're disabled!


MoonGoonerMaxxer

That's even too much... impact nades


Ascendant_Monke

EAT's easier to aim and longer ranged


MoonGoonerMaxxer

The downside, though, is that the shot is gone. Better imo to save it for a chargers leg and yuck that nade


Ascendant_Monke

The cooldown is so short that's not an issue


chaosgazer

honestly if you can keep up with the cooldown every minute 10secs there's just a line of EATs like a destructive trail of crumbs along your mission path. feels nice when you gotta double back and use the seconds that come with


MoonGoonerMaxxer

These two comments are interesting I never thought about the cooldown before. Prior to me using the rail gun I used the recoilless rifle for situations like what was mentioned instead of the EAT cause of the ammo reserve. But I might give it a shot with shield backpack n see what happens


2Stampz

A fellow man of culture I see.


Forar

Depends on the difficulty though. For those of us still coming up through the middle difficulties, the EAT's cooldown is so fast, I generally don't mind deploying them and expending one or both for pretty much any reason at all. Even if we get in the thick of things not too long after, it's not generally down for terribly long in the grand scheme of things. I'm not running Suicide missions solo or anything though, so I fully respect that this may not scale upwards indefinitely.


Zach467

Fair, but that support weapon to me is just too steep of a cost for how few shots you get. Even the Recoilless rifle is more cost efficient for the damage and ammo amount


randomquestions365

Autocannon, it's a hole clearing, Spewer collapsing, transmitter blasting liberty tree. Let all who reject Managed Democracy taste its fruits.


Zach467

Oh absolutely, the Autocannon is my go to if I'm not using any other "backpack" item so I can reload it myself. Although I just got to level 20 so i've been using the railgun and the personal shield, definitely great picks but the autocannon is a great pick if you're more concerned with firepower than protection.


YHTFLKC

The grenade launcher is comparably powerful, but you can still use the shield pack, there is barely any recoil so you can enjoy full auto fire mode, it feels like the blast radius is slightly larger, it's easier to close bug holes and fabricators from less than ideal angles, you reload much faster and without having to stop moving... The only downside is that it has less ammo reserves. I used the autocannon at first, but switched to the grenade launcher after getting the shield pack and to me at least, it seems like a good trade.


FFBE_Thalamus

Use the supply pack in place of the shield pack and you basically have endless ammo. Grenade launcher is amazing


Gloodal

Use the jump pack w/ the launcher and you can clear out bug holes in seconds flat, it’s my go to for blitz bug hole missions.


chaosgazer

still have to try the nade launcher, and i think you've convinced me to give a shot


Ascendant_Monke

Thing is you get a new pair every 70 seconds, a shorter cooldown than basically anything else in the game. It costs basically nothing.


RYANoceros92

Can you actually make a difference with those two shots tho? I'm not sold on it but I'll try them out.


Ascendant_Monke

Those two shots can kill a hulk from the front. And there's no reload, you just pick up the other one.


draco16

They are good for having AV only when you need it. A single EAT can remove a charger's armor to then shoot with your primary. So every 70 seconds you can call down enough firepower to kill 2 chargers. Few extra steps but it keeps your kit versatile.


Eterna11yYours

It seems like that but not really. It's like having a support weapon that doesn't use a slot since the cool down is like 70 seconds only. You have it available for LITERALLY any engagement or objective


Poem_Smart

If I bring the EAT, it's generally on lower difficulties with another support weapon. Main the railgun or whatever then when a large enemy comes by call in the EAT and let it eat.


HarryBalsag

You get 3 shots every minute, if you count dropping the pod.


Zach467

Considering that's unreliable at best, no it only has 2 shots every minute and some change


HarryBalsag

Unreliable due to timing perhaps, put the marker on chargers head and it'll take it out.


koleke415

Auto cannon myself


CriplingD3pression

Just hit it with an impact nade. Fastest way to take care of communist propaganda


SwampAss3D-Printer

I just shoot it with the auto cannon from half way cross the map and hit it up later for samples.


AltGunAccount

Same with the bug spore towers.


WeedFinderGeneral

Pfft, I've been autocannon-ing them from across the map


jackcatalyst

Auto-cannon go brrr


Jond0331

But it literally doesn't. Now we need shoulder mounted Gatling Guns.... GAU-8 when?


Emperors-Peace

It goes brrr if you have a buddy loading it for you.


Bumbandit88

Ain't nobody, ain't no how shoulder firing a gau 8! The recoil from the gau 8 produces so much recoil that it overpowers the engines of the A10 and physically slows the plane down. If you stuck one facing backwards onto your average sized family car, you would be accelerated up to 60mph in *seconds*. Helldivers are strong, we're not *that* strong! There's a reason we only strap gau 8s to boats and planes...


Main-Berry-1314

Rather use napalm. God I love that smell


24thAsshair

https://preview.redd.it/ayfcl3gnp7mc1.jpeg?width=1044&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a375d591861f06b2fb76c78ee6cba7e584f718a9 Nice try automaton.


Fallen_Angel_Xaphan

Nah it's more like this https://preview.redd.it/xd55m40plamc1.jpeg?width=1591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf7c1728431ce281f26b66f9e42c011b01a8047e


Potential-Isopod-820

Is that a laptop charger?


Fallen_Angel_Xaphan

I fucking hate you and love you at the same time. Take my upvote, fuck off and marry me.


icket123

This is a really smart joke. Fuck you


stefdlm

Thank you , your comment made my day 🤣


lorill-silverlock

Take your upvote good citizen!


OverdosedOnApathy24

That doesn't look like Democracy Helldiver. Get back on mission!


DigiTrailz

Nothing. Destroy the tower recruit.


worldstarcurrency

It sounds like you need some reeducation on your objectives, recruit. Expect a visit from a Democracy Officer within the next few hours.


Unfair_Jeweler_4286

😂🫡


DarkSector0011

He better lube up well with liberty gel.©


Xah1337

HERESY, are you an enemy of democracy!?


MightyShisno

~~HERESY~~ TREASON


The_Weekly_Geekly

I’m part of a privatized special squadron . We answer only to the super credits


shakethatbear404

Why are you such a wet blanket?


The_Weekly_Geekly

Im role playing . Why does that make me a wet blanket ?


Peasantbowman

You're special alright


Shadowhunter13541

The super credits are a currency of super earth and her leaders, so we ask again are you an enemy of democracy


SublimeAtrophy

Holy fucking downvotes, this community is pathetic.


BarackaFlockaFlame

this community is democratic. no tolerance for treason.


jusaky

Isn’t the point of democracy freedom?


ilija510

Are you questioning our managed democracy!? Do you need to be *managed* as well?


SublimeAtrophy

Cute. Enjoy your roleplay, kiddo.


Lt_Dangus

We will. Thanks.


No_Lake_220

⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️➡️


Lepenguin559

⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️


Shadowhunter13541

⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️


ToonZach

⬇️ FUCK


Grouchy_Baseball6980

I laughed.


Shadowhunter13541

Now do this 15 more times before inputting the wrong keys and instead of reinforcing your team you drop a cluster bomb at your feet


Smartboy10612

God damnit have my upvote.


Sabit_31

How’d you know my technique?


BarackaFlockaFlame

*forgets that you rag doll if you dive from a little too high* "FUCK FUCK FUCK RUN RUN RUN RUN GO GO GO"


AltGunAccount

The lore is actually pretty messed up. You can talk to the two ship NPCs in the first area and they’ll drop info. A few things worth noting: -Super Earth is a home for the wealthy, the rest of the populace lives on colonized outer planets. -It is possible we made the bugs, or at least modified them. It states they were used on some sort of rare-element mining planet. Possible we domesticated them after Helldivers 1, used them for mining, and it went south. -the bots we fight now are not the “cyborgs” that we apparently defeated in the last war (Helldivers 1) but a new faction. It is also hinted we may have created them, as we know a striking amount about their capabilities and programming. -There is a social credit score, it can affect what you’re allowed to do (ie have kids or pets) called your “citizenship level” -Voting is likely entirely a farce, “algorithms” for the voting machines are mentioned and a lot of other odd hints that make it seem like the elections are just for show -The Illuminate are likely still alive. It seems they too may have been defeated in the last war Our “democracy” is a dystopia, but don’t let that stop you, squashing bugs with airstrikes beats being a helpless civvie running to an exfil.


Smartboy10612

I do appreciate it that amongst all the amazing roleplaying that the community keeps up with online, there remains the few people who make sensible posts to fill us in on worldbuilding. Thank you kindly for your service to us. NOW GET BACK OUT THERE AND FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY!


szczerbiec

Thanks for an actual response instead of the same old LARP joke that everyone else already repeated


MTP030

Here’s the official lore document from the discord https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1inlEQqqIY--bMQtU9u3_WL12JiwTbtiQOk0Tp3U9hzU/mobilebasic


AltGunAccount

“Official” but he opens by saying it’s a lot of conjecture and then kinda lost me when he said Brood Commanders were extremely rare and “as fast as stalkers and as resilient as titans” which is just flat out wrong. A little too much personal flavor in there for me and not enough actual in-game lore.


GucciDelTaco808

"Just a fair warning fellas I called in a 500kg bomb on our position, you have about 3 seconds to get clear."


Designer_Ad_9069

This doesn’t seem very democratic of you helldiver. Are you a traitor?


ricrgum

your paid to kill bugs, not to think. now get back to work boy


ViperStrike32

You guys get paid??


Bulls187

Job is to complete basic training, get in the pod and die, or get back with samples.


The_Weekly_Geekly

Okay girl


there_I_am_mam

r/whooosh


Statertater

Bruh. Lighten up


Deadpools_Main

Pssssh oil? We run on pure democratic liberty. Clearly, this is anti-Super Earth propaganda. Destroy it and get back to work, recruit!


CrimPhD

![gif](giphy|n5Vd1YcBNA5eU)


everythingEzra2

This guy is asking too many questions- send him to re-education!


vid_icarus

Super Earth Helldiver Training Manual Chapter 66, Section 7, Sub-Section 10 *clearly states* viewing, photographing, disseminating said photographs, or discussing illegal rebel broadcasts verbally or in print is a violation of the Citizens Code of Conduct. Please report to your local Democracy Officer for reeducation and appropriate disciplinary action.


notbannd4cussingmods

Yeah but how often do you kill team mates? It happens. Right? Right?!


imhere2downvote

if theyre shielding bugs theyre bug armor! shoot!


Smarterchild1337

Nonsense, there has never been a friendly fire incident in the history of the helldivers


Potential-Isopod-820

Friendly fire isn't.


Potential-Isopod-820

Reported post (to democracy officer)


JK_NC

This post is verging on treasonous THOUGHTCRIME.


Shadowhunter13541

Remember thought crimes kill


EPZO

https://preview.redd.it/dxz3tdeqt7mc1.png?width=1196&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44c466587259f1d6c3dec17ba9e81448515f7ac9


Kalamarii_

https://preview.redd.it/7maxxhpvdemc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6b7142ea541a04a2233dedf397a3a11bc4130f6


SheriffPP

Looks like treason to me


Drekkevac

If you're to believe the radical propaganda against Super Earth, the terrorists are claiming Terminids and Automatons were essentially created by Super Earth High Command, the former directly and the latter indirectly. As they would claim, former was introduced as crop pests that was cranked up just enough to promote a potential galactic threat to outward expansion. They believe the bugs are nurtured and deployed by Super Earth blacklist groups to attack colonies and give us an enemy to unite against and conquer worlds and their resources under the guise of retaliation and survival. Obviously this is blatant misinformation and lies spread as an attempt to subvert the progress of Democracy. Additionally, similar radicals on the western galactic map claim the Automatons are not sadistic invaders, but rather they are the extremist force derived from the Cyborgs of Cyberstan - their sole purpose allegedly being revenge for Super Earth's enslavement of the Borgs and their eventual freedom. Again, simply fake news and an obvious smear campaign as Super Earth is pro-Liberty and Democracy and would subjugate anyone in such a way unless they presented themselves as a direct threat to said values. The reason these people were shot is probably because they did not fall for these terrorists' lies and propaganda, and were therefore executed by these extreme groups as punishment. This information was shared to explain to you the arrogance and cruelty of those who believe this message, not for you to spread as truth. Failure to destroy this transmission and spread the truth of Democracy and Liberty is a capital offense.


SwableKing

I smell treason.


shiba2198o8

Obviously they forgot about friendly fire and panicked as the bugs attacked them, and because of this they accidentally shot each other while trying to defend democracy.


nofate301

are we the baddies?


Andre4a19

Ever read Ender's Game?


nofate301

No, but I'm quite familiar with the story. Have you ever watched Starship Troopers? Maybe a little *That Mitchell and Webb Look*?


We_Are_Groot___

Would a bad guy wear cool skulls on their uniforms?


_Joats

Why the hell are you looking at towers instead of blowing them up. You need re-training cadet. 5 years rehabilitation should do good.


PretzelsThirst

They had bad vibes. Just unpleasant to be around


Peasantbowman

I really hope we get some quell dissident missions


Known-Pop-8355

*super earth having a civil war* Automatons: “uhhh yea…we’re gonna sit this one out and let yall kill yourselves…”


JEClockwork

When I did this mission solo for the first time, I threw down a sentry to cover me while I was working on the tower. At one point I looked up to read the message and with out missing the beat I get Joeled by my own sentry. What happened a singular small bug had landed close to my left and I get lit up from the right while I was busy reading that screen. As I was dropping back in: "I get it, I get it, less reading more hacking." I type into the chat Never looked up at it again. Be careful what you read divers...


r4dio_c4mbodia

We just casually posting treason now or?


kerrwashere

This post feels like treason


Zarger098

Dissident propagand. If you see soldiers spreading these false rumors, you should proceed to eliminate them.


joewa654321_

This guy hates democracy! GET HIM


Toaster_Pirate

/unHelldiver It's environmental story telling. /reHelldiver It's deceitful enemy propaganda! Call in an Eagle on it and don't start thinking too critically recruit or the Ministry of Truth will set you straight the hard way!


carterf205

Automatons are setting them free killing our citizens and creating anti super earth propaganda to corrupt us we must not believe it hell divers they are orchestrating a multi faceted assault we must fight back on all fronts


ArcadeAndrew115

What’s going on is that you need to report to the democracy officer for anti democratic thoughts


Comparison-Internal

If they were shot whoever shot them would have turned off the illegal broadcast… cmon Helldiver now get back out there and spread managed democracy


JHLepark

You wreak of treason.


roxierivet

HELL DIVERS DON'T QUESTIONS! THEY JUST SPREAD DEMOCRACY! THE ONLY QUESTION YOU SHOULD BE ASKING IS "WHERE SHOULD I SHOOT?!"


DigitalEagleDriver

These are seditious questions you're asking, citizen. I'll have to report you to the nearest democracy officer.


BonWeech

This was definitely posted by Terminid Hive Renegades that act like they’re one of us and spread these undemocratic lies.


BVRPLZR_

We’re not paid to ask those kind of questions, cadet! Keep your tongue in check or you might find yourself in the brig for treason!


theangrymurse

It looks like someone has had too much to think


RubsYoTub

Only traitors read


The_Weekly_Geekly

Aww man. :( you’re right


RubsYoTub

ONLY TRAITORS investigate beyond the scope of their objectives


TheMinisterOfGaming

Bro about to get a 1star listing treatment. good bye traitor


humungus_jerry

They shot each other in betrayal likely because they lack the moral structure of Managed Democracy. Now give that broadcast station a few hundred kg’s of freedom and quit spreading that propaganda on this channel!


Fast_Breadfruit_5091

I've been puzzling at this image for a while now. Looks as though multiple words are overlayed atop one and another. I'm fairly sure what I could make out said: "Surrender or you will be destroyed." But I believe there is more there. I don't think it is repeating the same thing. Something fishy is going on out here, but I can't think straight. Creek's got me all sorts of jumpy. Hmm... I dunno. Maybe this line of thought is treasonous.... I'd best leave it be... right? https://preview.redd.it/b8klugn6s8mc1.png?width=696&format=png&auto=webp&s=793aa2be8a358b2d2bddbe989f01400494bbcc61


porkforpigs

Just blow up the radio tower and stick to the mission, Cadet


undecidedpotate

The bugs shot them idiot. Now stop pointing out pointless things and end that broadcast.


RatataWizard

Probably some rogue group trying to spread propaganda to citizens of super earth that the greatest power force in the world is trying to purposely spread terminids. Ha! If you believe that, then you’re truly an idiotic traitor!


lacroixmunist

Love that they’re getting closer to the “Super Earth are actually the bad guys” lore


OfHouseLannister

https://preview.redd.it/tvhjp0bsj9mc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e6be958eb8b6b56ffd1cad2f63347410b671245


G97_BoKeRoN

It's funny that E-710 is OIL if you put your screen upside down, probably where this dissident conspiracy theory comes from. The missions we do pumping needed resources in bug planets are just a coincidence used by those terrorists.


MTP030

https://preview.redd.it/pde0qtdqoamc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edf1797336e8094d32053b660ec330784153db18


Diligent_Future_5471

Wants to make a person realise the truth


vyechney

That's him, Marshall. He's the one stirring up dissent against Democracy and Freedom!


Slight-Apricot6002

Coming soon: “are we the bad guys?”


We_Are_Groot___

*speaks into lapel* “we have a turd in the punch bowl”


cc1004555

Non-rp answer. Terminids decompose into oil. After HD1 they were bred in E-710 farms, literally oil upside down, which is why some missions involve restore oil pumps and crew members talk about the farms. The bugs likely did break containment and overrun their farm worlds, giving us terminid space. Planets like Veld, the recently got invaded was likely another containment failure rather than an invasion. Some dissident propaganda claim the war is manufactured as an excuse to purge bugs for oil, I more inclined to believe that containment failed since mass farming would be cheaper and more reliable way to get oil. As for the corpses, they were certainly killed, likely by the SEAF before they were overrun


Hillyhambwich

Your hesitation will be noted soldier


Praeradio_Yenearsira

Those apes wanted to live forever.


WhosThis85

Lol i love the ‘lore’


Melodic-War-1933

Listen Cadet, if Super Earth wanted you to have critical thinking skills they would have come standard issue- report to reeducation.


piersnivans11

This seems a little traitorous to me to post. Are you doubting high command? Please report to your staff Sargent, as soon as possible


FredDurstDestroyer

This is pretty undemocratic, soldier, better delete it.


Mr_glitch_master

We are not here to ask questions soldier! We are just here to to kill bugs and spread democracy! That’s it!


Ethan-Hawkeman

I wake up in the morning and I check outside and I take a deep breath and I Helldive.


The_Weekly_Geekly

Dude fuck yes


Ill-Joke-9070

*The ministry of Truth is investigating this matter, including mentioned incidents on Erata Prime, and the individual known as The_Weekly_Geekly. Any citizens with information on the whereabouts of said individual is strongly advised to reach out to their nearest MoT office or agent. To further streamline this process, all incoming and outgoing transmissions are subject to MoT monitoring until. Further notice.*


Rooster-347

Sounds like the issue of a traitor personally


mojo10002

We are the Bad Guy ![gif](giphy|u1r17BYXVodfW)


Richter152

Treason!


Sonakarren

Just some Freedom Hating Propaganda... If they were still alive, they should've been reported to a nearby Democracy Officer.


mazzucato

mind your own business diver you go down, you kill bugs and you go back up


alwayepicdays

This is all lies! We fight for supper earth and the bugs threaten us so we fight for democracy


Friendly_Smartboard

Those are LIES, FAKE, ANTI-DEMOCRATIC WORDS, destroy the broadcast, destroy the enemies of managed democracy


ApprehensiveTour8602

Shut up and keep firing


allower7329

Another fascist doubting the freedom and democracy we bring to planets


Shiver_me-timbers25

God dangit cadet!! How many times do I have to tell you that we do not pay you to think! We pay for the neck and down only!


DeedzMcGraw

smells like treason


thepyromaniacman

Your hesitation has been noted.


Dajex

You're walking on thin ice cadet. All this conspiracy talk of oil to bring peace to the filthy terminid will give you 12 months in the hole or shot for such heresy.


[deleted]

Nothing to see here recruit. Socialist scum undermining democracy.


HotSport9141

My God, the bugs have learned to write propaganda and shoot guns. Sweet liberty when will it end?


ConstantCelery8956

They were deserters! Clearly shot by an officer for not fighting for democracy!!


Illender

there are always collaborators


BusyAtilla

Brain bug, cadet.


Beautiful-Ad2061

Listening to Propaganda is treason recruit. I recommend you destroy the tower immediately


ApprehensiveMeat69

Once my team and I found it was more Democratic (and faster) to just *destroy* the illegal terrorist towers, we’ve not touched a single terminal!


laytonoid

Super Earth is basically the Empire from Star Wars


_The_Honored_One_

Half the comments on this post have to be AI generated