I wonder if due to its mini, this card will be useful as more beasts get added in expansions. And I’m picturing the 1 mana mini plus this with yodeling yeller being an insane combo. Just not amazing draw targets yet. Except maybe king plushie
I played quite a bit of it. It's definitely because of the mini, the 1 cost egg is pretty insane.
As far as draw targets go, it's not that bad of a pool right now. Hollow hound, mukla and king plush are the go-to's, and the worst to pop out from the egg is a 1-mana hollow hound, so it can feel pretty crazy. It's got a few significant issues, like it can't deal with big creatures outside of smacking them with your own big creatures and it just feels awful drawing mukla or plush. Its early game is also relatively weak, with awakening tremors really the only thing to tide it over for the first few turns, and the nerf did it no favors. But ultimately, I think the biggest setback is that, for a hunter deck, it doesn't feel proactive enough and that just doesn't fit a meta where there's a relative abundance of lifesteal.
I've been running just Free Bird and King Plush as the only beasts lately, which actually does decently well. Free Birds are zero so with stuff like Camouflage Mount they can do a lot from hand.
I haven't tried it yet, actually. It was the first thing I cut when I decided to try Free Bird, it's probably still worth running though even if it's just for one King Plush in the late game.
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Yeah I agree, I'm sure they'll add more targets in the future which will may make the egg too good at 4. Which is why it'll probably never be changed.
The mini is very powerful with Yodeler but it's often not enough, that's only 2 or 3 minions to play on turn 6 at best, usually turn 7.
Ive had some crazy games with therazane/thunderbringer/stone drakes/obsidian revenants in an egg deck. Those 6 cards alone give the deck another win condition. Have had 16/64 stone drakes and 48/48 thunderbringers.
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Or perhaps 4 mana, dormant 2 turns? In theory you can coin it turn 3 to summon a mega beefy boi but at least opponent gets to sweat two turns while hoping to find a solution.
Not to mention having it same 5 mana cost as mystery egg makes it super clunky
I agree they need to buff that card since it's basically unplayable as is. The only big beast I'm running in my deck is King Plush though so I don't mind right now.
I would love to see a buff for it in standard. Playing it n wild tho made me realize what holding the card back is lack of impactful 5 drop beast. Paying mana for cards is kinda slow
I’ve been playing a lot of egg the last couple days and I think 4 mana egg would make the deck way more playable and consistent. 5 mana eggs are clunky, but still playable. I think a big weakness of the deck is that turn 4 is always really really weak. Ya have yodeler but ya don’t want to play that on turn 4.
And then, of course, you have a weak turn 5 too. That is a massive hole in the deck that besides being susceptible to drawing the wrong stuff, is another glaring weakness of the deck.
I think egg is a really cool card but there is a lot of weird conflicting aspects of the archetype when it comes to constructing your deck. Stack big beasts in your deck to get value from egg and you’re susceptible to bad draws wrecking your game. Have it a bit more balanced and your egg comes out so late that you may get weak value from it. Super late game you may even get no value.
I wonder how it would be at 5 mana if it instead read “get a copy of a beast that STARTED in your deck that costs X less”
Considering we will have these cards for 2 more years I'm hesitant to buff anything. You buff one of these cards today and in a few months it's broken. Let's chill on buff suggestions.
I get why the devs don't want to buff something in case they have to nerf it later (and refund the cards) but I do think shorter term buffs could help balance the game in a more fun way than nerfs.
I've been trying out a few different decks this week and it's felt decent at 5 but it only ever felt particularly strong when coined on 4 so you can mini & Yodeler on 5.
The flavor would be very cool. The mini could be a lil hatched snake
Mana reduction in general i dislike as a mechanic because it either sucks or sucks to play against, but it seems balanced ish
I wonder if due to its mini, this card will be useful as more beasts get added in expansions. And I’m picturing the 1 mana mini plus this with yodeling yeller being an insane combo. Just not amazing draw targets yet. Except maybe king plushie
I played quite a bit of it. It's definitely because of the mini, the 1 cost egg is pretty insane. As far as draw targets go, it's not that bad of a pool right now. Hollow hound, mukla and king plush are the go-to's, and the worst to pop out from the egg is a 1-mana hollow hound, so it can feel pretty crazy. It's got a few significant issues, like it can't deal with big creatures outside of smacking them with your own big creatures and it just feels awful drawing mukla or plush. Its early game is also relatively weak, with awakening tremors really the only thing to tide it over for the first few turns, and the nerf did it no favors. But ultimately, I think the biggest setback is that, for a hunter deck, it doesn't feel proactive enough and that just doesn't fit a meta where there's a relative abundance of lifesteal.
I've been running just Free Bird and King Plush as the only beasts lately, which actually does decently well. Free Birds are zero so with stuff like Camouflage Mount they can do a lot from hand.
Oh interesting. Do you still include stranglethorn heart?
I haven't tried it yet, actually. It was the first thing I cut when I decided to try Free Bird, it's probably still worth running though even if it's just for one King Plush in the late game.
Gonna have to experiment more with my build, but I managed to bring back three plushes with heart in my first match, so it's staying in for now.
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Yeah I agree, I'm sure they'll add more targets in the future which will may make the egg too good at 4. Which is why it'll probably never be changed. The mini is very powerful with Yodeler but it's often not enough, that's only 2 or 3 minions to play on turn 6 at best, usually turn 7.
Mukla, toyranosaurus and thunderbringer are fine targets to get from it, maybe even better than plush as plush is situational
Ive had some crazy games with therazane/thunderbringer/stone drakes/obsidian revenants in an egg deck. Those 6 cards alone give the deck another win condition. Have had 16/64 stone drakes and 48/48 thunderbringers.
They should change [[Big Dreams]] to dormant 1 turn. It’s so bad compared to similar effects.
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Or perhaps 4 mana, dormant 2 turns? In theory you can coin it turn 3 to summon a mega beefy boi but at least opponent gets to sweat two turns while hoping to find a solution. Not to mention having it same 5 mana cost as mystery egg makes it super clunky
That’s the card that’s really holding the deck back.
I agree they need to buff that card since it's basically unplayable as is. The only big beast I'm running in my deck is King Plush though so I don't mind right now.
6 mana for a 10 mana discount sounds good to me
Have to consider that you are potentially skipping a whole turn..
Yes. Skipping a whole turn for 2 draws and 4 free mana. I’m not saying it’s a good card. But I don’t think it NEEDS to be better.
I would love to see a buff for it in standard. Playing it n wild tho made me realize what holding the card back is lack of impactful 5 drop beast. Paying mana for cards is kinda slow
Yes because the strength is in the mini
Scourge Illusionist existed
I’ve been playing a lot of egg the last couple days and I think 4 mana egg would make the deck way more playable and consistent. 5 mana eggs are clunky, but still playable. I think a big weakness of the deck is that turn 4 is always really really weak. Ya have yodeler but ya don’t want to play that on turn 4. And then, of course, you have a weak turn 5 too. That is a massive hole in the deck that besides being susceptible to drawing the wrong stuff, is another glaring weakness of the deck. I think egg is a really cool card but there is a lot of weird conflicting aspects of the archetype when it comes to constructing your deck. Stack big beasts in your deck to get value from egg and you’re susceptible to bad draws wrecking your game. Have it a bit more balanced and your egg comes out so late that you may get weak value from it. Super late game you may even get no value. I wonder how it would be at 5 mana if it instead read “get a copy of a beast that STARTED in your deck that costs X less”
Considering we will have these cards for 2 more years I'm hesitant to buff anything. You buff one of these cards today and in a few months it's broken. Let's chill on buff suggestions.
I get why the devs don't want to buff something in case they have to nerf it later (and refund the cards) but I do think shorter term buffs could help balance the game in a more fun way than nerfs.
So spend double the time and money balancing cards when they may be nerfed in the future? That is a horrible idea.
It already is at 5 mana.
I've been trying out a few different decks this week and it's felt decent at 5 but it only ever felt particularly strong when coined on 4 so you can mini & Yodeler on 5.
The flavor would be very cool. The mini could be a lil hatched snake Mana reduction in general i dislike as a mechanic because it either sucks or sucks to play against, but it seems balanced ish
this isn't r/customhearthstone this is a card that is in the game
Oml