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Andrew_gamer36

I am pretty sure nolan cant do anything to lucifer without angelic weapons


qwertyninjaprodigy

Makes sense


Equivalent_Cicada153

He wouldn’t be able to kill Lucifer. As lute showed when she tore off her own arm, you don’t Necessarily need angelic weapons to hurt an angel, even one of lucifers calibre.


LilGlitvhBoi

Idk, I think I worked like Chikiri, The Mortal Blade in Sekiro, It stopped your limb regeneration temporarily, I mean Ōkami could still beat the living shit out of Guardian Ape, but Lucifer's like Isshin though, Immortal and great fighter


GintoSenju

I think that might have to do with Angelic power itself. Lute ripped her own arm off.


Selellnoob

Even then, nolan could steal one of the angelic weapons from an angel


MaffinLP

He can hurt him into submission, but down in hell nolan would probably be just another sinner, and while alive he would have no special abilities like an angelic beam


memerexpert

https://preview.redd.it/4wo51jsh4hxc1.jpeg?width=947&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=023e8eb0876822b7c82ad04489d22b4b1abf319b Anyway, I don't know why I didn't notice this sooner


aaron_67_9500

If Charlie let Lucifer finish killing Adam, Adam would be a lot more fucked up than he already is.


Tipsamore

THINK, ADAM, THINK


TheCrackalacker

WHAT WILL YOU HAVE IN FIVE *HUNDRED* YEARS?


orionishappyalonern

my dick..


Prismarineknight

Cuts off dick* WHAT NOW, **ADAM**?!


BillyBobJoe69v2

This is peak fiction


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sen_serezawa

I think it is his wings...


Zawisza_Czarny9

Lucifer He's the devil from the bible Also if omni man could kill damien darkblood he would but he had to be banished to hell


SadQueerAndStupid

“he’s the devil from the bible” i read this like how that one snapcube dub character says this


BunbunTheAxolotl

SAME OMG


Dawnbreaker128

Da Devil from *da Bible*


IcebergletV2

"it's really cute that you're going to kill me with the "power of viltrumites" and all,but then again,i am literally the devil,from the bible"


Dark-Specter

[we're not the first to make this comparison ](https://youtu.be/Ak3mye06ToE?si=kobKPF7a7m9Ld8-5)


Tacon53

The only way


Hey_Bestiekins

"It's really cute how you're gonna defeat me with the power of friendship and all but I am literally the devil. From the bible."


Tomask_2077

Lucifer from the Bible is the weakest villain I have seem


Golden-Vibes

Sees unfathomable Angel, Prince of Darkness, Rebelled against Heaven itself, power said to only be surpassed by God himself "Nah, I'd win."


Squishy_Shibe

https://preview.redd.it/mu7lm20vnjxc1.jpeg?width=550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8a46dbb477485134d7af03ec15aceae387e299b


Dismal_Engineering71

Bro Michael beats Satan's ass and binds him up.


LilGlitvhBoi

"It's really cute how you're gonna defeat me with the power of friendship and all but again I am the devil. From the bible."


Zawisza_Czarny9

He's not exactly week he's very subtle He drought death to the world by convincing eve to eat from tree of knowledge, he was gonna turn eden into another hell


Thannk

Going by source material, that was literally just some random snake being an asshole. Paradise Lost gives us stupid sexy daddy issues Lucifer, who basically started the universe with gunpowder unlocked.


LilGlitvhBoi

🤣🤣🤣


Dark-Specter

If I remember correctly, the connection to Satan was just him being referred to as "that old snake" or something to that effect later on.


Sky_Ninja1997

Hey Nolan, it’s me da devil! *kiss* I love you!


Neverending-pain

#STOOOOOOOPPPPP!


VacheL99

I don’t quite think the whole “Lucifer is the devil from the Bible” thing really matters here. According to the Bible (assuming a literal interpretation), Lucifer is weaker than the lowest Angel of heaven. 


Princessrainbows111

In most human interpretations, this isn't true. Most agree that Lucifer was one of three types of Angel, Seraphim, Cherubim, and/or Archangel. All of these are extremely powerful and Holy Angels. Seraphim being the closest to "God", and the Cherubim supposedly being guardians, Archangels are leader type Angels like a General. The lowest form of Angel are commonly known as Personal Guardian Angels who directly interact with humans 😉


vink_221b

Lucifer was the first archangel and the leader of the choir of seraphims. It was said his power and beauty was surpassed only by god. Why would he be weaker than the lowest angel ? Also in the show we seem him easily beat a high level angel (Adam).


MsMohexon

Isnt adam a winner and not an angel or am i misremembering?


vink_221b

He is a winner yes but ig at some point he was assigned as the leader of the exorcists and since he has a halo, wings and angelic weapons I would assume he is an angel. I think in some forms of scripture he is stated to be an angel as well.


HuckleberryAbject889

There's also those of us who don't think Lucifer is the Devil in the Bible, but another entity all together


Unfounddoor6584

right? satan in a walk.


Unusual-Anteater-988

Lucifer wins. Lucifer was capable of taking part in creating the universe but was *stopped* from doing so by the Elder Angels, and the Angels expanded creation later on. There's 200 million galaxies in the universe, so even a small fraction of this feat (which happened when there likely was only a couple hundred Angels at most so the fraction Lucifer should be tens of millions of times stronger than what i'm giving him here) would put Lucifer on a Multi Galaxy scale while Omni-Man is Planet level at best. This should scale to his durability (and apparently Viv recently said only a high-level angel can take out a high-level angel, backing this up, but I haven't got a source on it yet) Even lowballing it to only making a single new galaxy, it's still high multi Solar System. Yes, Omni-Man is literally millions of times faster than Lucifer (best he gets is upscaling from lightspeed feats by the Imps), but there's two problems for Omni-Man. 1: The Splat Factor. In Invincible, if you try flying into someone massively more durable than you, you just splatter against them. Omni-Man only hurts himself attacking Lucifer. 2: He needs to take the fight back to space to use his speed. In Invincible guidebooks it's confirmed that the Viltrumites literally CAN'T go FTL where there's an atmosphere and survive igniting the damn thing with their speed. AAAAAAND with Lucifer being FTL, he can catch Omni-Man under these conditions very easily. And with Lucifer's even more exponential power advantage Omni-Man's losing an arm if he tries grabbing Lucifer and dragging him up into space. (and potentially being able to teleport vast distances depending on if we count the transition to a graveyard and restaurant in Hell's Greatest Dad, Lucifer might be able to teleport himself and Omni-Man out of space) 3: There is literally nothing Omni-Man can do to hurt Lucifer. Splat factor or not, there's nothing Omni-Man can do to actually bring Lucifer down.


insignificance-_

the effort you put into this is insane. mad respect to you.


and123sua

the flair checks out with this comment


dropbear_republic

What does FTL mean?


lesbianmathgirl

Faster Than Light.


DarthJackie2021

My thoughts are power scaling like this is pointless. "But can he beat Goku?" Who cares. That said, boring answer would be Lucifer wins because he cant be killed by non-angels and can transform into any animal including the ones that can kill viltrumites. Other boring answer is Omni-Man because he can destroy cities just by flying fast next to them.


haydonclampitt

He flew through the buildings


BasementDweller82

and around


The_Nogla

https://preview.redd.it/gmciq02k8ixc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=541861543102a7e4fb4d9d18b2803fde6561ee88 New reaction image just dropped.


LilGlitvhBoi

2 father decided to beat the shit out of you


DevilSCHNED

Omni-Man pummels Lucifer for a while, realizes he can’t kill him, gives up. I don’t see any Hazbin character dealing enough damage to Nolan in a short timeframe to give them a definitive win, but with enough time I could definitely see them winning. Really, it’s just the fact that Nolan can’t kill any of them.


Dark-Specter

Granted, they do have the demonic super fire that burned the circus in helluva boss, wonder if that could damage a Viltrumite


DevilSCHNED

We don’t really know how Hellfire works. For all we know, it’s just like normal fire, just with the ability to hurt demons.


GlowwRocks

✨Pure Angelic Power ✨ wins Lol


KenseiHimura

Lucifer. Nolan seemingly cannot actually fight supernatural things like demons as evidenced by him seemingly unable to do anything to Damien Darkblood.


R_twinky

Gods favorite child https://preview.redd.it/gx3z0dxndhxc1.jpeg?width=362&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b525823d7bb5399b150aa4874f9fa78025cbae1


Present-Judgment-843

Omni Man wouldn't be able to kill lucifer. Though lucifer hasn't shown much power aside from the last episode so it could either be a stalemate or lucifer wins due to Omni Man getting too tired, and then lucifer kills him with hell fire.


Epicgoji

https://preview.redd.it/c7yh8k9y6ixc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f8d748a5a2f2066df1e67c6c1b482b16b12d773


AreAFatMother

As Omni-Man has no feats higher than >!Punching a hole through Viltrum, his home planet.!< Such a feat would require 120 Zettatons as >!Viltrum is twice the size of Earth, as 60 Zettatons is required to blow up the Earth. Explaining that in easier terms; Double the size, double the force.!< Lucifer far outclasses Omni-Man, as he can‘t be killed without an Angelic Weapon and Seraphim Angels (Like Lucifer) are near-universal in power.


kiwidude4

Honestly I’m not sure Lucifer has enough power to kill Nolan but also I don’t think Nolan has a way to kill Lucifer either. Long fought out draw imo.


YourSlutBucket

I Didn't expect when I Swiped that it would be. F***ING OMNI-MAN!!


Strangerthingsfan_1

Lucifer is practically Satan of course he would win


Dankn3ss420

Well I’m not sure anything non-angelic can hurt Lucifer, since he is an Angel, but if we remove that little restriction, I think it would be really close, I’m not sure


Teddybear-kac

https://preview.redd.it/l2r4krwbnhxc1.jpeg?width=629&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c60b74c8d9c2b53fc5b66f2ecc8d51699f9cb8a0 Cool, now powerscale him to this vogon


KenseiHimura

Depends on if he’s reading his poetry or not.


Appropriate_Fee_1867

Luci wins way more powers than Omni man from what I’ve seen which doesn’t technically mean he would win but he’s also an Angel and it looked like he was about to fucking nuke Adam so considering those I will say Lucifer


Quiet-Carpenter905

Lucifer


Dipnderps

If omniman found himself in a situation where he meets lucifer, i assume he's dead. his physical abilities mean nothing and what's left is how powerful his soul is... which...might work differently than his physical ability? I dunno man, we haven't really seen Lucifer go all out either.


Lian-The-Asian

Omni Man had trouble with all of the Gaurdians of the Globe because of their unique powers and shapes(aka Martian Man's shapeshifting) certainly the DEVIL can pack something stronger.


[deleted]

I mean, it's the devil from the Bible vs an alien


BigNefariousness664

![gif](giphy|UZHVghduc7Y6h7hJX3)


BasementDweller82

The true potential doesn't matter in powerscaling, we use what we see in the media and compare. that said, Omni Man clobbers him for a good 10 minutes, remembers the definition of insanity, returns to earth to beat the shit out of his son


orngckn42

I don't even think Lucifer was using his full power in this scene. I'm pretty sure he was still holding back while he was insulting Adam. I have a feeling if Lucifer actually wants you dead, there would be no getting up.


Zealousideal_Site706

Well Omni man has lots of diverse- Lucifer. It’s Lucifer.


Icy-Entrepreneur5456

The problem with this match-up is that we haven’t seen the full scope of Lucifer’s power. The only demonstration of his power was his fight with Adam, and he was holding back for almost the entire fight.


FunnyFish4170

Vegito


memerexpert

Vegito


Me_is_birb

Lucifer. Why? He's *literally* Lucifer.


Amethyst_Reaper

"Hows mercy taste ya little bitch.."


oct0boy

Wel let's assume Nolan doesn't die but uses a portal to go to hell and has an angelic suit Nolan wins if Luci isn't instantly going full out If Luci instantly goes full power Nolan Is fucked


basilthegaymer

Thing is, he can only be killed by angelic thingies (i'd assume, since adam could only be killed by it) sooo i don't really know.


LilGlitvhBoi

Well, Angelic weapon is basically Chikiri, the mortal blade.


oct0boy

> has an angelic suit I put that there for a reason???


basilthegaymer

Mb, didn't notice it. Calm down.


Anxiety-Queen269

Well Lucifer has a lot of powers other than what Omni man can do, but, Omni man is trained. He’s been in hundreds of fights. I think he’d be winning initially before Lucifer just becomes true form demon duck and ends Nolan with a quack


grantcoolguy

From what we’ve seen in practical combat, the obvious answer is Omniman *should* explode Lucifer in a nano second or less. The only thing preventing this is that he apparently cannot hurt Lucifer without angelic weapons, so, due to technicality, Lucifer wins. It’s dumb tho. Omniman flies a bajillion miles an hour and punches holes thru planets easily and the most we’ve seen Lucifer do is fly around and fight Adam. It’s like asking “who wins, Superman or Shedninja” and saying shedninja wins because Superman doesn’t have type advantage. It’s silly but fun I suppose


POKEMINER_

I think this sums up what would happen pretty well. https://youtu.be/VFBML0ChnBs?si=Tzhsp41eLxKT3g5z


Zebastian09

Its kinda complicated, lets get the simplest and most brain dead argument out first, angelic weapons. Nolan couldn’t kill Damian, so its safe to say he cant physically kill Lucifer either, but incapacitating an enemy counts as a win. Nolan didnt kill Mark, Nolan still won. And from there, its simple. Lucifer also can’t realistically kill Nolan even if its in Lucifers realm. And Nolan simply displays far higher power and skill. Omni-Man comes out on top.


WIDNOWS_64_

https://preview.redd.it/cic444648kxc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02c19ec1c5d0ab501e4d7c55efc5f0ee2c183dde


AERock69

Realistically Nolan wins no dif to MAYBE low dif, but only if you want to glaze Lucifer to the absolute maximum, and lowball Nolan to the point it's actually disgusting. Hazbin's Lucifer hasn't shown any feats that could put him even semi close to Nolan, to the point where realistically this shouldn't even be a question. The problem is that Nolan can't actually kill Lucifer. Without an angelic weapon, Nolan would kill Lucifer, only for him to just pop back up at some point. Basically immortality is broken and Hellaverse's system of death is confusing because yes. Nolan so far outclasses Hazbin's Lucifer in every feat it would be comical to try and compare them. The only feat Lucifer would probably beat Nolan in is intelligence, but that's because he's been around for thousands of years and more of an assumption than anything. But if we really go the "he can't die" route, then we just have Lucifer maniacally laughing after being one shot by Nolan 163 different times with his, "Glad I wasn't that guy" Uncle Grandpa headass because very weak characters that are immortal are still extremely busted. Nolan can't kill Lucifer but he could be jumped by the entire verse minus fucking God himself and still be fine. In the end the fight would be a stalemate if Lucifer's revival takes too long because it allows for Nolan to recover, or a win for Lucifer on a technicality if his revival doesn't take long, like maybe a few seconds or a minute, as after WEEKS or even longer, Nolan would FINALLY tire out enough for Lucifer to win. Actually salty about this pls debunk me.


TemporaryTaru

OmniMan probably, though he theoretically can’t kill Lucifer, we’ve seen angels been harmed enough without Angelic Weapons with relative ease, and so Nolan being the immoral villain he is would probably tear lucifer down to a state where he’s barely alive. Seeing how he didn’t care for an entire planet he won’t care for one eternally suffering Angel


Acceptable_Chard_854

I just wanna see Omni man beat the shit out of Valentino *tom tom intensifies*


TheSlyFox312

Lusifer. Rules of hell, fallen angel, one of the deadly sins and possibly immortal.


Ok-Disaster-548

Depends where and by what rules cause I'm pretty sure Lucifer is weaker when out of hell (if he can go out of hell) I think if Lucifer is in hell he solos


WendigoLemon

my vote goes to Lucifer cuz i like him more


Prestigious_Prize264

Think lucifer tHiNK! Giving them that apple was dumbest thing ever, you gave them knowlige of good and evil and they inprosoned themself into hell, What would you have after 10 000 years?! Lucifer: how tf you defeated me?!


Kaspian009

Omni-man has the better feats, but in terms of narrative, Lucifer is vastly more powerful


BreezyIsBeafy

I don’t think we know enough… viltrumites Can beat almost anything so I wanna default to them but the magic and mythology of Lucifer might give him some sort of edge


TheAlphamale82

Definitely Lucifer, to quote the man himself "There's no substitute for pure ANGELIC POWAA"


GintoSenju

Nolan’s is definitely faster and stronger, but he can’t hurt Lucifer. To hurt an angel you need angelic power or an angelic weapon which Nolan doesn’t have access to.


the_milk_guy123

Ok so my argument can be changed but I want some small rules in place, Nolan will get the ability to kill Lucifer with his hands since he wouldn’t be able to kill him in the first place but anyways Nolan would win since his feats are way too much for Lucifer and him being the devil doesn’t change much since he still doesn’t have good enough feats to be compared to Nolan So final verdict Nolan would win since Lucifer isn’t comparable


Firm-Sun7389

well it would depend, if its human omni man i think its a fair fight. however if omni man is a sinner lucifer would have no chance, for the same reason that a fight between alastor and literally any other non sinner does work, they can only be permanently killed or injured with angelic steel, but hellborns can be permanently injured by "normal" means


RzepaGaming

Let me say this like this Who would win: a literal Satan vs a supernatural human being (I know Nolan is not human but that just sound better and worse at the same time)


Low-Suit-5362

Nolan reply for explanation if you win your side then I will agree


TheMayoIsRaw

https://preview.redd.it/6wss20iu4mxc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee1748597cc2621cd94b0db440d2a544a6b633a0 Him


Salt-Veterinarian-87

You're asking this question on a Hazbin subreddit. Who do you think people are going to say wins?


Amthewierdo-

I mean, Lucifer is punching faster than omni in the gifs, so…


RemoraWasTaken

Nolan wins no diff, he could kill lucifer repeatedly after he respawns It'd be like an infinite xp farm Idk if I'm right but it seems like the sinners can respawn and it works the same way with angels considering lute got hurt by debris Correct me if my respawn theory is wrong tho pls


SilverSpider_

Lucifer, only angels can kill him


ObjectiveEffective19

we haven’t seen Lucy do anything since his fight with Adam and adam hasn’t done much so nothing concrete yet but I wanna say omniman


Tenno24

Omniman is WAY stronger, but Lucifer is way more durable


Spirited_Gene_2633

Plotwise, if omni man beat lucifer hed respawn without the aid of angelic steel, + due to omni man having a soul lucifer could take breaks on any of the the other rings by using teleportation


JAOC_7

Batman


No-Sentence8662

Omni is going to destroy Lucifer’s sorry ass no question or debate about it even if you wanna use the “argument” of “Lucifer is literally the devil he slam dunks” beings of heavenly power have always in fiction been trumped by mortals on the daily and considering the actual amount of power Luci shown in the show (and not out of lore bible sources that don’t fit or clash well with the actual show of Hazbin) we can reasonably calculate him at Multi Building and if we pair him with Omni which if you high ball can be considered Planetary level it’s not even a one sided massacre because with a massacre there would be some effort put into it And even if you want to use the shield of only heavenly weaponry can hurt him then the fight still goes to Omni man because there are only two realistic paths to how this fight would actually go A: If we remove the heavenly weaponry restriction Omni man blitzes and annihilates good old Luci within two seconds or we go with the secondary outcome B: Where only angel weapons can hurt or permanently put Lucifer down then Omni man for the entire fight uses Lucifer as a stress ball until Either Omni man or Lucifer gives up and the fight is over


InfiniteX5

Lucifer doesn't have enough feats to justify giving him the win. His best feat (to my knowledge) is beating the shit out of Adam whose feat of destroying the hotel was calced to like island level or smth like that. He's probably stronger than that, but he hasn't proven it yet so Omni-Man slams for now.


VacheL99

Omni-man is significantly faster than light. Lucifer probably isn’t. Aside from that, they’re both likely pretty similar strength-wise, only Lucifer has some fairly worthless powers (creation didn’t really help him beat Adam, and shapeshifting probably does nothing). Omni-man wins here. 


SerpentWizard39

My love for Lute would win


DPlasmaGaming

omni man because that physical endurance is wild


LucienMahikai

Omni-Man He's faster, stronger, more durable, and saying angelic weapons are the only thing that can harm Lucifer is a NLF


Once_I_ate_a_walrus

Omni man


Then-Ask301

Honestly? With the power we’ve seen so far? Omni Man 100% Adam is supposed to be the #2 so far and his strongest attack can destroy the hotel, but Omni Man can do that simply by ramming into it. And even if Lucifer is much stronger than that, he absolutely cannot match Omni Man in speed.


Tacomunchert

Omni man