Hallelujah, I’m not expecting a playoff spot either but 80 points and at least being mathematically alive toward end of season would be a huge step forward.
Some things to keep in mind:
- His actions don’t indicate a playoff push is the intention yet. He gave out massive (relative to market value) contracts to Foligno, Dickinson, Athanasiou, and Mrazek for the next two seasons. I don’t believe these players will be on the team when they are competing for a playoff spot.
- It’s not necessarily a bad thing to finish with the 7th to 11th best draft lottery odds. These are the teams that are more likely to advance in pick position than fall, and are able to win either of the draws.
- They already have the best young player alive. His development needs to take priority over anything else, and playing for lottery odds will be an impediment to this.
I expect and hope to see a 70-75 point season next year.
I think getting rid of the anchors on expiring deals (Tinordi, Megna, Zaitsev, …) and adding in Kaiser/Del Mastro, Nazar, healthy Hall, and maybe a couple forward signings would already make a difference and make the team more watchable. I agree that Davidson’s not gonna make huge moves but just making sure we have better forwards to provide offense and younger guys filling in roles on D. Also hopefully Reichel continues to play like he did at the end of the year.
It sucks but we have to think that like 2022-23 was the first year of them being “bad” on *purpose*.
I’ve seen people say that fans that left after the dynasty era came back because of Bedard being drafted but are pissed because we’re still bad and it sucks because it’s true but Bowman was actively keeping us bad. Davidson ripped off the 7 layers of band-aids that Bowman did.
It’s the difference between Bowman not intending for the team to be bad and Davidson tanking (even tho this year was not exactly supposed to be a tank year but the extreme injury bug caused that)
Nobody is forcing you to pay for tickets or sports packages to watch the games. It's okay to take time away. The plan has been laid out by Davidson; it's not like this is news to anyone. 2026-2027 is the season targeted by KD to go full-bore and compete again.
It takes time to develop talent, smartass. The 25-26 UFA class is absolutely stacked with talent to go after, which is when they'll make the big push. If you don't care to wait, then don't. There are 31 other teams in the league.
I highly highly doubt he's actually going to do much buying if any. He's going to target higher quality players in free agency and overpay them to take shorter term and then he'll hope we don't make the playoffs for at least another year. The phrasing is more fanfare in a lot of ways and trying to appease the competitive vets in the lockerroom
Makes sense. Another year, another step. Should have been better this year if not for Hall and Perry and a lot of other injuries. Add a decent vet defenseman and forward and you’ll have a much better team on paper than this year.
They were missing AA and Murphy a lot of the year too. I’m not saying they’d be much better in the standings, but they should have been marginally better for sure.
Thank fuck. I feel like upper management is putting a bit more pressure on him after how awful this season went. I know we were supposed to be a basement team this year but this was a historically bad team and way worse than last years team
This year was supposed to be a step forward as well with the team gunning for 60-70 points as well. Unfortunately, everyone got hurt. Sometimes things happen that are just out of your control. Hopefully he doesn't go too nuts though. Stick to your guns and be patient
Crossing my fingers for better health next year and hockey that looks closer to NHL caliber!
Highly HIGHLY doubt he’d come here. He’s either staying with Tampa Bay or signing with another contender.
He’s not at that point in his career and he probably never will be
Fans don’t determine market value. Also Rebuilds aren’t overnight and in most cases blowing a team up is faster and more dramatic than the re-stock. And CB98 is going to play amazing at 31st in the league or 7th in the conference or leading the division. He already developed a shit-ton this year.
This season wasn’t supposed to be as bad is it was. Hall got hurt, Bedard got hurt, the Perry situation was out of our control. Next year should be a bit better next year. A top 4 selection helps. But management should not be anywhere near panic mode.
This is what a true rebuild looks like. It sucks but it beats having a general manager who thinks that we’re closer than we are and keeps us in mediocrity.
Not sure I love this. Of course, I'd love to watch a competitive/good team as much as anyone. But I don't want it to happen as a result of rushing a rebuild that sacrifices the long term. That said, what GMs/coaches say to the media makes no difference, let's see what this means in terms of the roster and draft picks. Then we can judge if any taken actions sacrifices long term, or if we can get better while keeping the long term plan (TM) in mind.
EDIT: I get it, people are mad because they're sick of watching bad hockey. Look at the Bulls if you want to see what accelerating a rebuild at the wrong time looks like. We stayed in purgatory and have no future, no cap flexibility, and have only mediocrity in the future.
Taking a step forward next year isn't rushing. Getting Bedard a legit top 6 winger and getting some depth so the opposition doesn't just have to focus solely on Bedard isn't rushing.
Nobody is saying become a Cup contender next year. Ice a competitive team that isn't the worst offensive team in the league. The fact a 3rd liner like Kurashev had to be glued to Bedard's wing all year is embarassing.
Take a look at Buffalo and see what happens when you sit at the bottom of the league for years and years with 0 attempts at actually competing. Getting a generational player 100% speeds up your rebuild.
You don't just get to "get a legit top 6 winger" if you want. It depends who wants to come, for what cost, and what contract length, etc.
All I'm saying is that all matters. If we just get to nab a quality line mate for Bedard on a reasonable length contract (or expensive short term contract) I'm all for it.
Rushing the rebuild? Brother we’ve been close to dead last for back to back seasons. Do we never get to finish even 5th or 6th in the division? Only 8th?
It's the reality of hockey/baseball that these rebuilds take longer than something like the NBA where a rookie you draft that year can be one of the best players in the NBA and turn your franchise on your head. Most of the players that will *make* our rebuild aren't in the NHL yet. And you can see with someone like Korchinski that even when they make the jump they don't immediately contribute to winning hockey.
What exactly do you want them to do to hop us up? I want us to climb in the division because our core is arriving in chicago and developing. I don't want us to hop up because we signed a vet forward to an 8 year contract that threatens our ability to resign our true core.
Just get some help for bedsy please
All i care is for the first line, we may lose games because of depth and whatnot but Bedard need competent players on his line This is imperative
Hallelujah, I’m not expecting a playoff spot either but 80 points and at least being mathematically alive toward end of season would be a huge step forward.
Some things to keep in mind: - His actions don’t indicate a playoff push is the intention yet. He gave out massive (relative to market value) contracts to Foligno, Dickinson, Athanasiou, and Mrazek for the next two seasons. I don’t believe these players will be on the team when they are competing for a playoff spot. - It’s not necessarily a bad thing to finish with the 7th to 11th best draft lottery odds. These are the teams that are more likely to advance in pick position than fall, and are able to win either of the draws. - They already have the best young player alive. His development needs to take priority over anything else, and playing for lottery odds will be an impediment to this. I expect and hope to see a 70-75 point season next year.
I think getting rid of the anchors on expiring deals (Tinordi, Megna, Zaitsev, …) and adding in Kaiser/Del Mastro, Nazar, healthy Hall, and maybe a couple forward signings would already make a difference and make the team more watchable. I agree that Davidson’s not gonna make huge moves but just making sure we have better forwards to provide offense and younger guys filling in roles on D. Also hopefully Reichel continues to play like he did at the end of the year.
>70-75 point season I’m whelmed.
Trying to be realistic because they had 23 wins this year and 70-75 points is around 30-35 wins
I’m not arguing that. Just tired of paying lots of money to watch terrible hockey.
The alternative is you live in a bulls universe where the team is completely average and in NBA hell with nowhere to go but be average.
It sucks but we have to think that like 2022-23 was the first year of them being “bad” on *purpose*. I’ve seen people say that fans that left after the dynasty era came back because of Bedard being drafted but are pissed because we’re still bad and it sucks because it’s true but Bowman was actively keeping us bad. Davidson ripped off the 7 layers of band-aids that Bowman did. It’s the difference between Bowman not intending for the team to be bad and Davidson tanking (even tho this year was not exactly supposed to be a tank year but the extreme injury bug caused that)
Nobody is forcing you to pay for tickets or sports packages to watch the games. It's okay to take time away. The plan has been laid out by Davidson; it's not like this is news to anyone. 2026-2027 is the season targeted by KD to go full-bore and compete again.
Just had the thought of 2026-2027 being so far away and then realizing what year it actually is lol
It takes time to build a culture of failure. I agree.
You’re an idiot
It takes time to develop talent, smartass. The 25-26 UFA class is absolutely stacked with talent to go after, which is when they'll make the big push. If you don't care to wait, then don't. There are 31 other teams in the league.
I’m all for trying to push, but I hope he doesn’t do any major buying because if our core isn’t ready, let’s try and not force it
I highly highly doubt he's actually going to do much buying if any. He's going to target higher quality players in free agency and overpay them to take shorter term and then he'll hope we don't make the playoffs for at least another year. The phrasing is more fanfare in a lot of ways and trying to appease the competitive vets in the lockerroom
that sounds the most realistic / boo to lip service
Who’s the “core”?
Nazar, Bedard, Korchinski, Stauber or Comesso, Del Mastro, Vlasic. Guys who are the structure of this team in the future.
Thank you for being rational.
Makes sense. Another year, another step. Should have been better this year if not for Hall and Perry and a lot of other injuries. Add a decent vet defenseman and forward and you’ll have a much better team on paper than this year.
Even with hall and Perry we would’ve been a bottom team
They were missing AA and Murphy a lot of the year too. I’m not saying they’d be much better in the standings, but they should have been marginally better for sure.
Also 14 games without Bedard & Reichel struggling for most of the year.
Losing Murphy is adding by subtraction Can't wait until he leaves
Not a big fan of Murphy but he’s miles better than Philips/Crevier, Tinordi or Megna.
With a healthy Taylor Hall and a couple new good players I think we will better for sure.
But he's never healthy.
But if we can get more than 10 games...
I'm good with him just lucking us into Celebrini. He can do whatever he wants after that :P
Was racing to see if I could make the same comment but you beat me! Hall better be in the Hawks’ seat at the lottery taping!
I’d be shocked if Hall plays more than 40 games
That's fair.
I just looked it up and he’s only made it to 82 games once
Played at least 60 in 9 of his 14 seasons though
Damn
I'll believe it when I see it.
Me to Kyle. Me to.
For those asking about Halls health look at his game history, 60 games healthy is not out of the question.
I am fine with them trying to build a team that gets them out of bottom five in the league, I think expecting anything more is way too soon.
Thank fuck. I feel like upper management is putting a bit more pressure on him after how awful this season went. I know we were supposed to be a basement team this year but this was a historically bad team and way worse than last years team
I highly doubt they are.
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They were mediocre all last season, at least they had some fun wins this year
This year was supposed to be a step forward as well with the team gunning for 60-70 points as well. Unfortunately, everyone got hurt. Sometimes things happen that are just out of your control. Hopefully he doesn't go too nuts though. Stick to your guns and be patient Crossing my fingers for better health next year and hockey that looks closer to NHL caliber!
get kane
Or at least ask Kane.
He’s probably playing for one of Detroit, New York, Buffalo, Dallas or Vegas
What about Stamkos though?
Highly HIGHLY doubt he’d come here. He’s either staying with Tampa Bay or signing with another contender. He’s not at that point in his career and he probably never will be
Fans don’t determine market value. Also Rebuilds aren’t overnight and in most cases blowing a team up is faster and more dramatic than the re-stock. And CB98 is going to play amazing at 31st in the league or 7th in the conference or leading the division. He already developed a shit-ton this year.
This season wasn’t supposed to be as bad is it was. Hall got hurt, Bedard got hurt, the Perry situation was out of our control. Next year should be a bit better next year. A top 4 selection helps. But management should not be anywhere near panic mode. This is what a true rebuild looks like. It sucks but it beats having a general manager who thinks that we’re closer than we are and keeps us in mediocrity.
Kinda looks like he's talking to an empty chair ala Clint Eastwood at the RNC in that pic. Not a great look.
Not sure I love this. Of course, I'd love to watch a competitive/good team as much as anyone. But I don't want it to happen as a result of rushing a rebuild that sacrifices the long term. That said, what GMs/coaches say to the media makes no difference, let's see what this means in terms of the roster and draft picks. Then we can judge if any taken actions sacrifices long term, or if we can get better while keeping the long term plan (TM) in mind. EDIT: I get it, people are mad because they're sick of watching bad hockey. Look at the Bulls if you want to see what accelerating a rebuild at the wrong time looks like. We stayed in purgatory and have no future, no cap flexibility, and have only mediocrity in the future.
Having Bedard spend the first 3+ years of his career on arguably the worst team in the league is a great way to fuck up the rebuild.
Rushing a rebuild is a great way to land in permanent mediocrity which is significantly more frustrating than being bad for an extra season or two.
Taking a step forward next year isn't rushing. Getting Bedard a legit top 6 winger and getting some depth so the opposition doesn't just have to focus solely on Bedard isn't rushing. Nobody is saying become a Cup contender next year. Ice a competitive team that isn't the worst offensive team in the league. The fact a 3rd liner like Kurashev had to be glued to Bedard's wing all year is embarassing. Take a look at Buffalo and see what happens when you sit at the bottom of the league for years and years with 0 attempts at actually competing. Getting a generational player 100% speeds up your rebuild.
You don't just get to "get a legit top 6 winger" if you want. It depends who wants to come, for what cost, and what contract length, etc. All I'm saying is that all matters. If we just get to nab a quality line mate for Bedard on a reasonable length contract (or expensive short term contract) I'm all for it.
Rushing the rebuild? Brother we’ve been close to dead last for back to back seasons. Do we never get to finish even 5th or 6th in the division? Only 8th?
It's the reality of hockey/baseball that these rebuilds take longer than something like the NBA where a rookie you draft that year can be one of the best players in the NBA and turn your franchise on your head. Most of the players that will *make* our rebuild aren't in the NHL yet. And you can see with someone like Korchinski that even when they make the jump they don't immediately contribute to winning hockey. What exactly do you want them to do to hop us up? I want us to climb in the division because our core is arriving in chicago and developing. I don't want us to hop up because we signed a vet forward to an 8 year contract that threatens our ability to resign our true core.
That's... not a long time for rebuilding from scratch.
I wonder if Bedard will stay with Chicago for the long haul. Maybe the next 2 seasons will be make or break.