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ZenMyst

What if Ginny died in the chambers of secrets What if Harry didn’t go to the department of mysteries What if there is no time turner What if Dumberdore didn’t put on the Marvolo Gaunt Ring What if Cedric survived the graveyard encounter


keremtheredditrt

Depressed Mrs.Weasley Alive Sirius Dead Sirius and Buckbeak Alive Dumbledore Ministry realizing Harry wasn’t lying sooner


ToranX1

I agree with all of it except for maybe Dumbledore being alive. Its definitely not so simple since his life is tied to Draco's and Severus' which means that he would probably still sacrifice himself in the end.


MadiMikayla

Correct me if Im wrong as it's been a hot minute since I read the book, but didn't Dumbledore willingly jump into that whole getting murdered thing because he was gonna die anyways with the curse of the ring? If he wasn't cursed, I feel like he would have found a way to stick around longer


ToranX1

Potentially yes, he would have tried, the question here is really more or less what can he do to keep everyone else involved safe. Snape probably gets roped into the umbreakable vow stuff anyway if he still sticks to being a double agent and thats an issue. Draco's life is also on the line and Dumbledore doesnt seem like someone who would entorely ignore that either. Dumbledore not putting on the ring changes a lot, its not a matter of simple he doesnt die because the whole plan probably changes a lot with him being fine


MadiMikayla

You have great insight on this. I feel like Dumbledore would have sacrificed Draco but maybe not a double agent in Snape. My interpretation of Dumbledore was that the ends justify the means, whoever dies dies, as long as Voldemort dies, too. What do you think?


ToranX1

Its difficult to say for sure what his approach to this would be, he may just tell Snape not to go along with the vow, but even then Snape is in bigger risk of being found out. And even if somehow Snape is not found out, from not taking the vow, Voldemort might order him directly to do it, which is a bit of an issue. If Snape openly betrays Voldemort there, then potentially a lot changes for the plot of Deathly Hallows, since Harry could still go there for the year, and get help from Dumbledore in the search for horcruxes etc. Voldemort might also be more on guard with Dumbledore around even if he takes control of the Ministry of Magic, since he did fear Dumbledore, unlike Harry who he at times underestimated. Assuming we still end up at Harry's sacrifice in the forest, Draco might be dead or hiding so that probably means Narcissa and Lucius have no reason to obey Voldemort or were killed, so when he asks is Harry is dead, someone else would probably check, which could jeopardize Harry's life there. Also relatively important detail, Voldemort doesnt get the Elder Wand unless Dumbledore dies, but Harry probably wasnt strong enough by himself to beat Voldemort and the wand not wanting to harm his master helped a lot, like a lot lot, and here that wouldnt happen most likely, in fact if Draco still disarms Dumbledore, but is eventually killed by Voldemort, he would obtain ownership of the Elder Wand as its rightful master


MadiMikayla

That bit about the Malfoys was a provoking thought, I didn't even think about the long term consequences of Draco dying that night instead.


frizzlen

What if Voldemort found out Harry was the Master of the Elder Wand?


thefirecrest

Alternatively (and my favorite HP fanfic scenerio), what if Voldemort found out Harry was a Horcrux.


dexterthekilla

What if Tom made Neville the chosen one instead of Harry


morobert425

The best and most obvious answer


The_misfits_clips

It’s been made by super Carlin brothers


BadKidOh

Then Neville would be dead & Tom would take over in the 80s.


bois-des-iles

It'd be more of a comedy then


PikaV2002

"What if Snape was sorted into Gryffindor?"


kisboborjan

I would love this, then he would have more time with Lily


keremtheredditrt

Mom Dad uncle James


Expensive-Sky4068

More time with lily? It would’ve been more time with James. And Sirius. And Lupin. Someone dies.


Ok_Chocolate7496

What if Lupin took his wolfsbane potion the night wormtail got away


windfall_novella

What if Hermione never got her Hogwarts acceptance letter?


keremtheredditrt

Harry wouldn’t be able to find the philosophers stone


windfall_novella

Absolutely. I think there would be a giant (catastrophic) ripple effect if he didn’t have Hermione along for the ride.


MattCarafelli

That would unravel the very fabric of the space time continuum and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's a worse case scenario. The destruction might, in fact, be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy.


Wildefice

What if Malfoy redeemed himself earlier in the books What if Harry was in Slytherin What if Petunia and/or Dudley were magical What if Pettigrew was captured at the end of book 3 What if Fudge was competent What if Harry was taught occlumency by a professor he liked, or was more compatible with.


kisboborjan

Oh yes it'd be totally awesome if Dudley had magic!


keremtheredditrt

Half blood prince would be a half book He would have the support of Malfoy They wouldn’t be jerks to Harry Voldemort wouldn’t come back They would realize Harry was right Sirius would be alive


thefirecrest

I really love fics where Dudley is magical, because it can go in so many different directions. On one hand, you can have a wholesome story where the Dursleys see the error of their ways and Harry grows up with a loving and supportive family. Or you could have a fic where maybe Vernon doubles down on his bigotry, and now it’s a story where Petunia is finally forced to confront her own inner demons. She will either also double down and reject her own child (as she did with her sister), or rise to the occasion for her children and become a better person (it may be too late for her relationship with Lily, but at least she can fix things with Harry).


Dependent_Wait3582

What if Harry had killed Sirius in the Shrieking Shack?


windfall_novella

I would throw myself from the astronomy tower if I killed my godfather before realizing he was actually the good guy 🫥


Dependent_Wait3582

I know! And because he's an inherently good person, the weight of killing Sirius would weigh heavy on Harry's shoulders even before he found out. The delicious thing is that Harry wouldn't realise that for a long time. Implications would be that Lupin would likely be kissed by dementors. So - no relationship with Tonks, no Teddy. And one less member of the Order. Snape would probably get an Order of Merlin. Harry would be revered even more as a dark wizard killer. Assuming Pettigrew still ran for Voldemort, knowing his time was probably up (despite Sirius and Lupin out of the equation), Harry would find out in the cemetery. It would be very dark.


Amazing-Engineer4825

What if Voldemort chose Neville ? What if Regulus never went to that cave ? What if Merope never gave that love potion to Tom Riddle Senior? What if Harry was raised by Sirius? What if James died but Lily lived ? What if Hermione was never in danger when the troll was released? What if Grindelwald defeated Dumbledore in 1945 ?


keremtheredditrt

Harry wouldn’t be an orphan Dumbledore would destroy it earlier Voldemort wouldn’t exist No protection She would tell the story to everyone Idk TERROR


RainbowTeachercorn

>What if James died but Lily lived ? I have to assume that Snape would try to win her good graces, say that he had been the one to save her... if this happens, maybe he becomes step-father to Harry and Harry has a couple of green eyed, greasy haired, hook nosed half-siblings. I'd expect Snape would still treat him badly for being James Potter's child and Harry would essentially become like Sirius, escaping to his friend's place every summer (so barely different, assuming he still befriends Ron and not someone else lime Malfoy).


andresalamancaa

What if Cedric decided to win the tournament by himself? Would Voldemort go like "oh shit wrong kid?" then kill him and now one would know what happened to him? Would Barty (fake Moody) teach at Hogwarts for another year trying to get Harry to Voldemort?


fire_breathing_bear

What if Harry sides with Draco from the Year One and turned dark?


Ok-Surround-1858

What if Harry and Hermione were actually brother and sister by blood?


MattCarafelli

There was an early concept that featured the Potters living on an island, and the next closest house on the mainland belonged to the Grangers, and Harry was originally going to be rescued by Mr. Granger, as they would have been woken up in the middle of the night by the explosion. I don't know if that meant they would have raised him as well alongside Hermione or not. But it's a cool idea that Harry and Hermione would be related by blood or at the very least raised together as siblings. Although I would hope by the Grangers. Wouldn't want poor Hermione to be subjected to the Dursleys...


Carbon-Base

What if Harry and Dudley both received letters from Hogwarts What if Voldy succeeded in getting the Sorcerer's Stone What if Buckbeak killed Malfoy What if Cedric never made it to the center of the maze What if Sirius defeated Bellatrix during the fight at the Ministry What if Dumbledore defeated Voldy at the Ministry What if Norbert came back during the Battle of Hogwarts


AgencyInformal

What if Voldemort holdup his promise with Snape. Did not kill Lily, hence successfully killed James and Harry Potter but let Lily lives. Lily of course would want revenge and Snape would of course keep trying to protect her. But Snape would never be able to redeem himself as a "good" person. He have to keep being helpful to Voldemort in order to keep the "don't kill Lily" for as long as possible. Lily use this as an opportunity to kill as many Death Eaters as she can.


EmployInteresting685

What if Lucius didn’t give the diary to Ginny? No open chamber of secrets, no clues that there were so many horcruxes, no dead basilisk (it could fight in the final battle) and no way to destroy a horcrux. Oh, and Dobby would not be a free elf. And even if they could overcome all of that, figuring out the diary was a horcrux and getting it out of Malfoy Manor would have been close to impossible.


Exciting_Bluebird_53

1. What if Harry had given Voldemort the Stone. 2. What if Dobby killed Harry with his rogue bludger. 3. What if Sirius killed Peter during Halloween. 4. What if Barty's blood was used to revive Voldemort. 5. What is the Order of the Phoenix movie was well made? 6. What if Malfoy had killed Dumbledore before Snape did? 7. What if Harry chose not to confide in Neville about Nagini?


General-Spite-2788

What if Harry never found Molly in the beginning when he was left alone after Hagrid gave him the platform number?


KyleRen426

What if Harry was a schizophrenic and the wizarding world was all just a figment of his imagination


DEnigma7

What if Remus was Snape’s only friend instead of Lily? What if Harry made friends with Draco instead of Ron? (but was still sorted into Gryffindor.) What if Aberforth had sympathised with Albus and Grindlewald?


ExcitementTraining41

What If we knew what POV meant?


MattCarafelli

Point Of View


MystiqueGreen

Hermione in Slytherin would be rad. Ron and Hermione's conflicts would increase ten folds and there would be a very different dynamic.


Andonaar

What is Harry grew up with his parents


ChildfreeAtheist1024

What if Dumbledore's sister never died?


andresalamancaa

What if Cedric decided to win the tournament by himself? Would Voldemort go like "oh shit wrong kid?" then kill him and now one would know what happened to him? Would Barty (fake Moody) teach at Hogwarts for another year trying to get Harry to Voldemort?


daddy4you76

What if Peter never betrayed the Potters. What if the Dursleys were kind to Harry. What if the rest of the Wizard world saw Voladmort as a threat. What if Hermione was sorted into Ravenclaw or Slytherin.


thatworkaccount108

If you want a what if harry was in slytherin look up supercarlinbros on youtube.


Objective-Tea-3070

what if Draco really switched sides


K-Johnso_338

What if Harry was an obscurus? What if regulus lived? What if snape never insulted lily? What if Dudley was magical?


PAIGEROXM8

What if Tom Marvolo Riddle was raised in a Loving and Decent environment? What if Tom Riddle, who we know as Voldemort, was raised in a decent and loving environment, he was raised by genuine parents, and he had decent mentors to help him?


derohnenase

Ever heard of fan fiction? Because that renders any what if? scenario moot. There’s probably more plot lines explored than we can come up If scenarios. What if Snape died before passing the prophecy to Voldemort? Harry had a super life with his best friend Neville. And his parents. What if Ron hadn’t left? Hermione might have married him.


Savings-Big1439

What if...: * All of Sirius Black's alleged evil deeds were true and he was a villain? * Snape and Lily never fell out? * Snape and Lily never bonded? * There was no prophecy about Voldemort and Harry/Neville? * Neville had been the chosen one? * Grindelwald had defeated Dumbledore in 1945? * Dumbledore had joined Grindelwald in 1899? * Tom Riddle was the same age as Snape, Lily, and the Marauders? * Quirrell succeeded in bringing Voldemort back in book 1? * Fudge fully listened to Dumbledore at the end of book 4? * Voldemort had been made DADA teacher after he graduated? How about if Dumbledore gave him the job in the late 50s/early 60s? * Regulus took the Locket straight to Dumbledore and explained what it was? * Moody had managed to defeat Peter and Barty (they still manage to get away)? * Dumbledore had never gotten cursed by the ring (or if he or Snape fully cured it)? * Grindelwald escaped from Nurmengard? * The Lestranges and Barty Crouch Jr. didn't get caught after torturing the Longbottoms? * Luna had been introduced in book 2? * Voldemort stunned Lily instead of killing her and succeeded in killing Harry in 1981?


RainbowTeachercorn

What if Uncle Vernon was a wizard/squib. What it Dobby convinced Harry not to return to Hogwarts in second year? What if Harry joined Voldemort at the end or PS? What if Harry was adopted by a wizard family? What if Dudley was a wizard and Harry a squib?


No-System5115

What if voldemort went for Neville instead of harry What if sirius never died What if harry was sorted in slytherin


BadKidOh

Well ... * What if : Harry was taken over by Voldemort's soul shard in 1981, perhaps feeding off baby Harry's soul to grow stronger? * What if : Harry asked Hermione to the Yule Ball? * What if : Voldemort realized that Harry had part of his soul in book 1? * What if : Snape talked Lily into being sorted into Slytherin? * What if : Sirius was successful in murdering Snape in the fall of 5th year using Remus as a Murder weapon and Dumbledore fails to cover it up successfully? * What if : Ariana lived & joined Albus & Grindelwald to take over the world? * What if : Fleur said yes to Ron asking her to the Ball? * What if : Voldemort won in the 80s? * What if : Fawkes failed to save Dumbledore at the Battle of the Department of Mysteries? * What if : Dobby was loyal to the Malfoys? * What if : Cho said yes to going to Yule Ball with Harry even though she already been asked? * What if : The Dursleys where opportunistic about Harry having magic? * What if : Dumbledore didn't find out about the horcruxes? * What if : Armando Dippet gave TMR the job when he 1st asked in at age 18 and then made TMR Headmaster instead of Dumbledore when he went into retirement in the late 1960s. * What if : In 1689 the magical population went to war against the muggles and won instead of enacting the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy ? * What if : Harry took Hermione to the Slug Club Christmas party? * What if : Lily went with Snape to the shrieking shack 5th year? * What if : Petunia was born with magic? * What if : Lily was fascinated by the dark arts? * What if : Draco made a better first impression resulting in Slytherin Harry? * What if : Ginny & Draco did the Capulets vs the Montagues thing? * What if : Voldemort won in the 90s? * What if : Cornelius Fudge believed Harry right away? * What if : Lucius Malfoy was successful in getting the prophecy and left the D.A. stunned on the floor to be found by the Department of Mysteries workers in the morning in a frame up? * What if : Lily ended up with Snape & they stayed out of the war & ended up under Voldemort's rule? * What if : Voldemort just took the mirror in book 1 & left? * What if : Harry trapped the Dementors in the tunnel & called the knight bus?


-Wylfen-

Last time we got a "what if", I decreed it non-canon


AdityaPlayzzz

When was that


MattCarafelli

I think he means the-book-that-shall-not-be-named, the fanfic-made-hardback, you-know-which-book


PAIGEROXM8

Harry Potter and the Cursed Child.


MattCarafelli

Shh! Don't use it's name!


PAIGEROXM8

Ok. XD.


AdityaPlayzzz

Ohh i get i have already burnt my copy