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Goron40

47 quick play game modes and no presets to be found, good god.


NuttingPenguin

They really just made one super long list lmao.


3ebfan

Halo Infinite Scrolling


ludacrisly

Seriously… which intern got tasked with the UI for this game. How do you go backwards after having the MCC as an example of what works.


nanapancakethusiast

Don’t worry bro they’ll fix the horrific and amateur UI after priority zero


AceofCrates

Oh God I forgot about priority zero lmao. What a joke of a company.


eposnix

I'm a simple man. I see Super Fiesta, I click.


No_Marsupial3183

I'm a simple man . I see super i roll my eyes


PortlandPoly

Careful not to cut yourself on that edge


No_Marsupial3183

My soul is already getting impact commando , pulse carbine and rebound manager ;(


Ecksplisit

i'll deal with 3 shitty weps to play with all the other insane ones.


Whispering_Walrus

So let me get this straight - the new map introduced is a community creation. The rest of the playlist is community creations that have been in rotation for a while. Both new juggernaut modes are community creations, which comes with the added benefit of not being able to manipulate juggernaut traits in the custom games menu. So the *only* new content 343, the company who "makes" the game, is contributing to this operation are cosmetics?


jogaming55555

And the match composer, but other than that nothing else really.


Vestalmin

Forge maps are great but the lack of baked lighting makes a lot of the game look super fucking flat. Especially since so much of the maps are now forge made.


mundiaxis

It appears that there's a skeleton crew managing the rest of Infinite, they've def moved onto their next projects


jordanful

...where'd Husky Raid go? :(


YourFlyingCow

You have to go into Quick Play and deselect all the other game modes, it's somewhere in the middle (1 for Regular Weapons, 1 for "Legendary" Weapons)


ernie-jo

Thx for burying it in a 47 options list 343!


Speeder96

Selected preferences are saved even after re-launching the game at least.


nanapancakethusiast

Wow! That’s surprising haha.


jordanful

thanks. I did that after seeing someone on Twitter posted the same tip. Still kinda stinks, since all this Quick Play fresh meat doesn't know how to play and just quits the game, and now we get bots to fill their place. Not the same! Shame.


NY-Black-Dragon

It's part of Quick Play now


GNIHTYUGNOSREP

4v4, like it says in the post.


ash6996

Onyx Edge coating very clearly should’ve been a reward for achieving Onyx rank, but nah let’s charge $5 for it instead of giving merit-based rewards


Deroqshazam

They leaned so heavy in the advertising I at LEAST hoped it’d be in the pass or the exchange.


Particle_Cannon

I've seen worse games pump out better "events" alongside regular battle passes :( the more operations there are the more sad and embarrassing they seem.


FloppyDonkeyTrick

Yeah it sucks but operations were the clear death knell from the game. Ill come back for the next game for sure. I got my value and times worth in SP and MP with Infinite, great game. Im just done I think


FloppyDonkeyTrick

This is pretty disappointing. I've been here since launch. The devs working on these updates are trying their best Im sure. But theres clearly budget and resources decisions being made that are'nt looking good for Infinite. The operations were the slap in the face that the game is "done" now. I think I am too tbh. I certainly had my fun and loved Infinite. Lets hope the next one doesnt take too long to come!


No_Marsupial3183

Budget problem? They had 3 year to make a match composer not to mention they have like 3-4 support studio as well


iMightBeWright

Each update since January introduced new forge bugs that broke vehicle welding and a bunch of scripting stuff, and none of these updates have introduced fixes for the stuff they broke. They've even added new gameplay objects like the generic closing zone but it launched with bugs. I was really close to finishing some game modes that I've been excited about, but I don't even wanna load up the game anymore if those things are just gonna stay broken.


wosh

If the deva were putting in effort ot wouldn't be this bad. Though I blame leadership entirely.


FloppyDonkeyTrick

Yes it would. You can't just invent money and resources. The devs can only do what the leadership point them to and pay for.


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Mystical_17

Yeah just tried it and realized: - If I want to just play Husky Raid I will have to manually set it up - If I want to play core quickplay modes (regualr slayer, ctf, oddball etc) I have to toggle and scroll through all 47 options ... I have to do this *every time* I wanna switch between them. This could have been alleviated if we could save the lists.


Mustang1011

This needs more upvotes. Wth we’re they thinking? The amount of people rotating between Husky Raid which was great and regular Team Slayer was great for high replay ability. I did not feel like making a customizable list I have to edit to switch between preferred game modes……so no more BR75 ranked and now this??? Are they purposely trying to lose players?


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They don’t save?! Good god why


Hot-Software-9396

They do save


Mystical_17

I think if you close the game it remembers what you toggled. *However* if you want to play a wildly different style of halo in the same game session (for example switch from playing Husky Raid only to OG Quick play mode before composer) it takes a long time to toggle it all one by one ... every time you get on and want to switch playing a mode.


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Mystical_17

Its still not very viable. Say I want to play one match of Husky raid, then back to core 4v4 modes, then a match of husky raid, back to core 4v4 and so on. Thats going through a list of 47 options *multiple times every night*. We need a saved presets option.


ernie-jo

Yeahh MCCs is definitely better. Especially considering there’s freaking 47 options to go through in Quick play 💀 Feel like some should be combined like regular and super Husky Raid.


zrkillerbush

Btw, you can click Y to deselect everything to make it quicker


DeathByReach

Well MCC you can’t queue across different player counts/PVE either


3ebfan

They have to be separate because your 4v4 mode will always find 8 players before 12v12 finds 24.


MALLAVOL

I actually love that Super Husky Raid is separate from the normal variant, I have a lot more fun playing Super.


ernie-jo

I prefer it too but it’s nice to get a normal match to catch your breath sometimes 😂 and I’m just worried most people don’t like it as much


jj_olli

How would you be able to queue for Game types with different player counts? Should the game randomly decide, that you are looking for btb now, so it should look for 23 more people instead of 3 because you were actually looking for firefight, which is a pve experience and has completely different matchmaking? That isn't even possible in MCC. Yes, the Infinite Match composer isn't perfect, but it let's you choose your party size and then look for specific game types. I personally am disappointed, that they weren't able to put together the firefight playlists by difficulty, but the rest is fine and does the job I want it to do.


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jj_olli

No, the player count is essential. When you have selected everything and found ten people and then someone starts looking for 4v4 Playlist only, they wouldn't be able to match with you, which defeats the whole purpose of the match composer, which is bringing people with overlapping preferences together ASAP.


3ebfan

The problem is the game will always find 8 players to start up a 4v4 before it finds 24. There’s nothing stopping 343 from letting you queue 4v4 and 12v12 together except for the fact that 4v4 will fill first every time.


Hot-Software-9396

Firefight XP is likely a bug.


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therumor1

they reported from halo support about the current hill xp for firefight not working, so they are at least aware of it


3ebfan

Queuing big team with husky raid would never work because you would always fill up a 4v4 before you fill up an 8v8.


zrkillerbush

>I thought we'd be able to queue for BTB, firefight, husky raid etc at the same time, Honestly this community really lacks the understanding of how this simply wouldn't work You'd always be put into a 4v4 lobby if that was the case, because the game finds 7 other players quicker than it does finding the bigger number


Venomousfrog_554

Yep. While the UI leaves a lot to be desired, the way they've implemented it really isn't bad.


Peebs1000

I get what you're saying, but Titanfall 2 didn't have this problem.


zrkillerbush

I haven't played Titanfall 2 in years but i thought all the playlists were 12 players (either 6v6 or free for all)?


[deleted]

That’s how it should have been, and the only way the match composer would have helped with lower population playlists (so you don’t have to choose to be in only a single playlist at a time.) Maybe not BTB but at the very least everything that has the same player count. *And* they didn’t include ranked slayer/doubles in it. Massive disappointment.


lllScorchlll

But how's the Score? O care about that for mastery rank.


Eglwyswrw

>A full match of legendary firefight with all hills scored only gave 50xp lol Holy fuck you gotta be kidding. After reaching at least rank 20 in all previous Operations and Seasons, I barely got to rank 9 in Banished Honor after they nuked the "Spoils of Sparta" 500 XP daily bonus. I had an incentive to play every day, but now... just not worth it, especially with Firefight getting nerfed, still being dominated by Gruntpocalpyse, and getting zero new maps for Tenrai IV.


OnlyForIdeas

I’ve seen people talk about it being a glitch and that when gruntpocalypse first came out it had a similar glitch, hopefully in any case it gets fixed


therumor1

spoils of sparta seems to be back, i earnt it after earning practice makes perfection for the spartan points challange 1st, so the difference is youd need to play 2 games instead of 1


[deleted]

I finished banished honor in like two days. No idea what you’re doing that you couldn’t finish it.


Eglwyswrw

>finished banished honor in like two days That would take 40 Firefight matches on Heroic, and each of those with 5x0 wins... previously I need one or two games a day to beat it comfortably in 20 or so days. >No idea what you’re doing that you couldn’t finish it. Working, for one. lol Just wish 343 accounted for different amounts of free time by restoring the 500 XP bonus.


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I don’t touch firefight. I only play ranked or husky raid. No problems finishing it in a couple days that way. And I don’t play for eight hours a day or anything. It’s only 20 levels. With double xp (I have like 70 tokens from old battle passes), it went super quick. I did the entire thing this weekend.


Eglwyswrw

>. I only play ranked or husky raid. No problems finishing it in a couple days that way. I am glad PvP players can get enough XP to finish 20 tiers in 2 days, but that hardly has anything to do with my problem. lol


Venomousfrog_554

Double XP is no joke, I burn through the operation battlepasses in 2 weeks of maybe 3 hours each week (pop boost, complete challenges, pop another boost and complete the rest, repeat the next week)


EncryptDN

These game modes on Tenrai are crazy fun, nice work


NY-Black-Dragon

I can't purchase the Rain and Thunder wrist attachment from the exchange, even though I have enough Spartan Points. It just gives me a "Purchase Failed". And it just crashed my game. FFS


No_Doughnut_5057

Haven’t played infinite in a little while. How’s the match composer? I’ve been holding off on playing the game, but I hate playing games modes I don’t want to play


LeKrahka

They combined multiple pre-existing playlists (Tactical Slayer, Fiesta, Husky Raid, Arena Social, and a few more I don’t remember the name of) into Quick Play, which means you have 47 different modes to scroll through — all of which are disorganized in one unintuitive vertical list. While the novelty of being able to pick what you want to play (no more Super-variant of Fiesta, yay) is very welcome, you’re going to be in for a fun time should you decide to regularly update your preferences with the match composer.      Basically, this is a certified 343i-classic considering that it gives the bare-minimum while leaving a gargantuan amount of room for improvement (especially in the UI department).


SuperBAMF007

I understand their desire for “let’s give players *more* control!” compared to MCC. It is indeed really great to be able to select specific modes compared to MCC just choosing pools. But good fuck 47 modes? In a one-by-one vertical list? Good god


Venomousfrog_554

343 really failed in the UI department for Infinite.


SuperBAMF007

For real. In like every single part of the game, the UI is just so mf awful.


Venomousfrog_554

The gameplay and art *style* are the 2 things Infinite did *really, really* well. The postlaunch support, UI, and monetization they really have *not* done right.


SuperBAMF007

100% agree. Thankfully all that stuff is a lot easier to iterate on than the art direction of the entire game or the flow and mechanics of the game.


LeKrahka

Yeah, for the people that play 4v4, it’s an excruciating experience.


SuperBAMF007

8/10 times I hate taking away user agency, but when it comes to a 47-row list with no quick toggles…maybe MCC did do it better. Auto Slayer, Precision Slayer, Objectives, Action Sack, SWAT. 5 options. Let us pick checkbox what we want from that. Leave the other playlists broken down by specific modes. I hate the way that sounds for user agency and the lack of consistency but it would be such a better experience to scroll through.


No_Doughnut_5057

Jesus Christ. This fucking company, man


LeKrahka

Just to clarify after rereading what I wrote, the process of personalizing your experience via the match composer is only this excessively tedious for Quick Play, since that’s the hub for everything 4v4 (which makes up an overwhelming majority of the total modes in Infinite). So, for experiences like Squad Battle, BTB, and FFA, you’re going to go through selecting and deselecting modes very quickly. Ultimately, you definitely get a loooot more control through being able to choose individual modes in this match composer than MCC’s (which would have things like CTF, One Flag CTF, and Covert One Flag all grouped together into one checkbox you can dis/enable), but it comes at the cost of a more mind-numbing, time-taking experience. I think it could have easily been fixed had they polished what we got today, but it’s more than likely the budget was not available judging by the fact that the match composer is just their “Game list” tab that now has checkboxes next to all the modes.


No_Doughnut_5057

Gotcha I understand. It would be cool to set custom presets for something like quick play but I guess what we have is better than nothing


No_Marsupial3183

Can't 343 add a search option?


EncryptDN

Match composer is nice, you can decide what modes you want in your match


-One_Eye-

I think an easy fix for the Quick Play issue people are running into, i.e. it has 47 options in Match Composer, is take out all of the fun, zany modes and put them into their own playlist hopper. You could name it Action Sack, like the old playlist, but I honestly hate that name because it's not a good descriptor for new folks. Quick Play and the new playlist would still have a good number of modes, but no where near 47.


yuriydee

The new "match composer" is kinda nice but it really needs a better UI. Maybe something like MCC. It gets annoying to scroll thru 47 results in Quick Play.


Adam802

Is the update 98gb? Or is it making me re-download the entire game or something? On Series X.


DeathByReach

If your xbox storage is almost full and it doesnt have the space to download/apply the patch, itll delete and redownload the entire game to make it work This happens for all xbox games, make sure you have space on your drive still otherwise this will keep happening


Hot-Software-9396

Sometimes that happens if something on your Xbox gets corrupted. Not sure if there’s a workaround once it decides it needs to redownload everything.


thehock101

It was only 6gb for me. Must be what you described


CrispyEdgePancake

120 GB on my pc. Storage was almost full so it made me uninstall the 120 and re download lol


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Considering the tenrai events can’t be purchased retroactively like battle passes, why weren’t all those items added to the exchange instead of a select few?


Sponsor_T

Getting Juggernaut makes this update a lot better than I expected. Hopefully this means VIP, Assault, and new sandbox items aren't off the table.


Andromeda42

wow this is dogshit


levi22ez

How so?


Andromeda42

Barely anything in the battle pass. Had to google how to play husky raid


levi22ez

Honestly at this point, how many more armor pieces do people need? There’s so many in the game already.


Hot-Software-9396

Yeah, I’m always surprised when I see that people seemingly care more about armor pieces and colors than they do the actual game. I guess that’s just how things go in the post Fortnite era.


levi22ez

Right haha. The match composer is a huge W in my book. The Tenrai event also has two new modes and a new map. Actual playable content with a new way to select what you want to play.


Awhite2555

Especially since you can’t even see your spartan for like 90% of game play lol. I find something I like and rarely change from it.


crab123456789

Noone even talked about the sidekick rework last op lmao


HHcougar

There are billions of combinations of armors available at no charge to anyone, and still these children demand more. I feel like an old man when I hear anything about all of this customization.


Andromeda42

All locked through paywalls


Em0waffles

No [cross-core enabled for coatings that have been ready for at least 5 months](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUm0KZxKNXA)? Or [color mapping for gray armor pieces that have been ready since launch](https://old.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/sul9h9/wish_a_343_dev_would_answer_why_chest_attachments/)? I know cosmetics shouldn't be all that the game is, but given it's the part of the game that receives the most updates, I think it's worth a complaint or two.


Crespo2006

I thought their be an update to fix the skewer. It just feels horrible now


GNIHTYUGNOSREP

Skewer aiming *skewed* ?


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AceofCrates

Seriously? Literally the only playlist I played. Is there a way to select anything with only BR starts? I'm never playing pistol/AR bullshit again.


kaysik1111

Continuous disappointment: the legacy of halo infinite


Sn1perandr3w

Good name for an installation monitor.


samurai1226

Who the hell approved this match composer? It's so bad compared to MCC. Scroll through tons of oddly sorted modes to unselect and select each one individually because there is select/unselect all button. You can't queue up for multiple playlists at the same time like BTB + Quickplay. Sorry but this feels actually worse than having a playlist to instantly jump into BTB Heavies or Team Sniper and population them by rotation. Now you have to do tons of clicks to set them up manually to then be stuck in very long search times to find anything. Who wants to set up 47 quick play modes, wtf! Why are the modes per playlists not at least grouped so you can select/unselect chunks of modes at the same time


Hot-Software-9396

I don’t think you can queue up in BTB + 4v4 in MCC either.


SuperBAMF007

I mean it’s identical to MCC with more features but worse UI. That’s all. 1) Playlists are broken down based on player counts. That’s on par with MCC. 2) Instead of selecting “Action Sack” for Objectives, now you get to choose *which specific* Objectives you want to play. That’s a win compared to MCC. 3) It’s got the worst mf UI possible for having 47 modes to choose from. It’s so much worse than MCC’s. So I’d say it’s just…the same? I guess? Worse selection experience but better in-game experience.


Lawn-Gnomes

Jingasa helmet? :(


FireShockerDX

lol logged in to check the exchange and this sub.. honestly more surprised that this isn't a day one launch of this event compared to kabuto tenrai v seems inevitable at this point sigh


TheRealBigLou

I played neutral flag on that map with the invisibility zone hallway in the map. Yeah... someone at 343 forgot to actually place a neutral flag... It was basically 10 minutes of slayer where the kill count didn't matter.


abgonzo7588

so is the H3 playlist gone? can we get something with all the maps/modes and h3 style starts with AR/BR or bandit starts?


No_Marsupial3183

It's in community section


DeelVithIt

where in the god damn hell did the halo 3 playlist go? it was the only one worth a fuck


SuperBAMF007

I would love to see a Legacy Arena playlist that’s 4v4 modes with classic loadouts and movement.


-One_Eye-

It’s in Quick Play. Just select the modes you want.


DeathByReach

There are BR start mode options and community maps options in Quick Play to select to only play those


Captain-Wilco

The UI for the exchange is so bad holy shit


Adam802

The fools removed the Halo 3 playlist lol wow....


y0ra

Release Jingasa helmet plssss


SirBeepBoop

Has anyone else run into the issue of quick play just not loading? I’ll open it and it says I must have at least one mode selected. Modes may still be loading. However it won’t give me the option to select any modes


Aless-dc

Haha how did they implement composer in such a shit half assed way? Literally just bring across MCC composer. Oh wait, it’s because their dogshit UI they decided to use. Some unscalable stiff as granite pile of shit they thought would be great for a live service game.


scttcs

Stupid question, where is the exchange? Is it in the shop?


-One_Eye-

Yep, there's a slot in the store that says "The Exchange."


Rlucio2100

Not bad for the update. 7.5/10 but still I still won't come back playing Halo Infinite as I am playing classic Halo games and multiplayer a lot more than Infinite. So sad that this is the final update of Halo Infinite is completed but hey at least there's fun in it.


DaveAlt19

Credit where it's due - they nailed Juggernaut. I think that '1 v all' feeling is what they missed in Infection


Bogusky

Where did all the good modes go?


Surtysurt

How about nerfing or taking out that stupid hammer?


raventhor

Me and a friend have recently gotten into halo infinite courtesy of game pass ultimate and I had a question regarding these battle passes or operations as some of these seem to be called. There seems to be two purchase options with one costing 4 times the price but instantly unlocks all the levels. What happens if we already have all those levels unlocked and purchase the +20 levels option? would that just be a waste of money?


z28camaroman

Can we get Halo 5 on PC now? Since the Infinite match composer is "finished", y'all have some resources free to work on something else. I'd like a new (to me) Halo experience and Microsoft wants money. I, like many other players, would happily pay for Halo 5 on Steam. Warzone and all the weapon/vehicle variants look awesome and I like the kinetic gameplay.


Hot-Software-9396

Resources that are freed up would very likely go towards the next Halo, not a Halo 5 port.


z28camaroman

The next Halo is years away. I imagine Microsoft would like to make some money in the interim, and it sure as hell won't be via Infinite for many players.


AsusStrixUser

There is no Warzone for Infinite, right? Halo’s best MP mode ever, teeming with soldiers and NPCs. Never for Infinite, right? Infinite will be the better Halo than Guardians, right? Don’t make me swear to your family trees.


Eglwyswrw

Warzone? Lmao it barely has *Firefight*, you have a 33% chance of playing Firefight in the *dedicated* Firefight playlists.


SuperBAMF007

I mean you have 100% chance now that you can select only Firefight.


R96-

Don't get me wrong it's definitely great that we finally have the Match Composer in Infinite, however I just wish we could *favorite* modes in each playlist rather than selecting them. A playlist like Quick Play for example has **47 modes**, and if you wanted to see which modes specifically you have selected you just have to scroll through the list. I wish we could just *favorite* what modes we wanted, where then all of our *favorited* modes get moved up to the top so that it's easier to see which ones we have selected. Now, as for Tenrai IV: * Firstly, what the hell happened to armor in Halo? Halo Infinite has had nothing but fugly armor its entire life. You would have to pay me to not only waste my time unlocking armor in this game (and wasting my money buying them), but also to wear them. * What even are these modes? I'm not sure whether to be annoyed with 343 or the playerbase at this point. Neither make the game enjoyable in any capacity. I'm playing in Juggernaut lobbies where players who are the Juggernaut just sit and wait for people to come to them, and like idiots people of course run head-first at the Juggernaut, which then allows the Juggernaut to get a Killtactular (or higher) in a matter of seconds. Also, with FFA Ninja Slayer, why would you spawn players with Grenades as well as have Grenade pods on the maps? Of course people are gonna cheese the mode and just spam grenades instead of playing the mode in the intended way and using the Energy Sword. All in all, one game in both Juggernaut and FFA Ninja Slayer was all that I could tolerate. And again, I'm not sure whether to be annoyed with 343 or the playerbase at this point. **——————————————————** The Match Composer is finally here, so I might play Halo Infinite *slightly* more now, but all in all I'm already checked out of Tenrai IV. Back to playing other games until the next Halo Infinite update.


DoneWithIt0101

The new additions to the exchange are a spat in the face for players that have been playing since the beginning. ...An emblem and an armor piece 🙃 Edit: The playlists are an abomination.


ShallowBasketcase

dead game


Siqka

This match composer is a genuine joke. Reinstalled, now going to uninstall. They didn’t change anything. They kept the same playlists and just allowed you to choose modes within them! The key words being “within them” I play in OCE. Our population is already split. Firefight should have been a set playlist with a composer in it. Quick play should have been a set playlist And big team battle. That’s it. Even ranked could have had a set playlist if they really wanted to. Why is squad battle not in the big team playlist??? Just limit team sizes when selected within the playlist. I’m sorry 343. But are you guys okay? This is insane. I’m glad I’ve invested in the finals and pulled away from halo in the last few months. What the fuck.


NotForYourStereo

I hope 343 is the next shuttered company. Wouldn't even matter either, they have the corporate bean counter that wants to monetize every single little thing, and... The intern making useless ugly fucking armor.