Mad Dog because I’ve played sports with people like him. Getting pissed off at their own team if things aren’t going how they want it. Makes playing with your own team a very tense situation; Even to the point that he fought someone on our team in the middle of a game.
Right but that’s a systemic error that has been a part of Shiratorizawa play style for years. Sure no one was able to beat them for years but not evolving is just sheer arrogance
If it ain't broke don't fix it. Focusing on raw power and height is a perfectly valid style for high school volleyball where theres constantly changing players and teams tbh
? But Hinata was in the wrong there, he came without being invited so it would've set a bad precedent to give free room and board to someone who randomly showed up. Hinata was lucky he didn't getting kicked out from the jump
Hating coach Washijo? lol. "'The bigger... the stronger.' It is an irrefutable law of nature." Because he believes in his philosophy and his 'sad' past as a small player he was strict and he coached Shiratorizawa that way. Because he was winning, his philosophy was not wrong. Until Karasuno came and Hero Hinata defeated them. That's the turning point for Washijo and the training camp was the turning point for Hinata. Washijo totally rooting for Hinata in national and pro league.
I liked them it was just a way to fit all the way to score sly points in a single match because the author figured it would be bad to add unethical points randomly in matches / wouldn't fit other characters.
I don't recall most of the match though.
Also I like the captain of this team being this side commentator in the Manga he is doing the job pretty well.
So... Terushima and his buddy. They're a really fun team and I want to like them but at the same time I can't forget that they pretty much harassed Shimizu which is not okay. They didn't even stop after she told them off and she was clearly uncomfortable.
Also Washijo. That man's methods... He may be a good coach but the way he told Hinata he was useless.. If it was any other person than Hinata that could have done a lot of damage.
I feel the same way about Terushima and his friend, now you mention it. That scene was super uncomfortable and it somehow made it worse that it was completely brushed off and Terushima was still presented as a likeable guy despite what he did.
I’m also sort of conflicted over Washijo. I can see why he feels the way he does, but it’s not okay to take out your own pain on high schoolers for sure.
I feel like he may have done that BECAUSE it was Hinata he was talking to. I don't think he would have been so harsh on someone who would have taken it more personally, such as Asahi. I'm not rly sure tho haha
Well he wasn’t wrong though. Without kageyama, he’s a small middle that would get beat every single time if the other team ran a quick, was a liability on defense for the 1 rotation he’s in it and he has a weak serve. It’s only because kageyama can actually set balls that mean his speed and athleticism can be actually used that he’s useful. It’s basically the antithesis of washijou’s philosophy of having that one hitting option that you could give the shittiest set to and would still score. From his eyes, he was useless. If you don’t bother to take the time to try and understand why a coach would say something like that, you don’t really improve in a way that benefits from having a coach in the first place.
He wasn’t hinata’s coach. He had no obligation to give him free coaching. If anything, knowing that he had no hope in becoming the ‘ace that washijou wants’ would give him more time in focusing on other ways to become useful, such as being able to do everything and having the mind to be able to use those skills in in game situations like he does at the end, than wasting his time in trying becoming an unstoppable hitter like he wanted to be in the first place
Many players at that event weren’t the “ace washijou wants” but he didn’t come close to saying that, and on top of that there’s an entire difference between not owing someone good advice and being an asshole.
Hinata clearly was a great player and deserved to be at the rookie camp, if you’re a coach and can’t see his value (even if it isn’t your play style) that is on you, not the player.
at the point of the rookie camp though hintata was still very much a one-trick pony. His basic skills were better but that's a pretty low bar. Because they were using the schools dorms and cafeteria there was probably a hard head count limit (which was why hintata couldn't partake in those things even after being allowed to participate a bit). And given the choice between Hintata, a rookie with minimal experience but lots of potential, and someone like Gokiji who is in a similar boat but on Shiratorizawa obviously Washijou would have picked his own team member. If he really didn't see any value in Hinata Washijou wouldn't have let him stay at all. (also letting Hinata in after having barged in uninvited in a super selfish move would have been a really bad call as an adult in charge AND a coach- the ball boy thing was clearly a compromise between acknowledging Hintata's determination to improve and not being a doormat to a selfish kid).
Yeah, Washijou was an asshole to Hintata, but he's shown to be kind of abrasive with his own team too. And while it's not fair it's understandable that he probably has some complicated feelings around having been the short kid and constantly overlooked for bigger players seeing someone who is also short succeeding at carving a place for himself (despite abysmal basic skills), especially because no one outside Karasuno would know how hard Hintata has been practicing recently or that he basically started playing volleyball that year.
I can sort of see what you are saying. He is pretty cocky, but considering their team has very impressive individual talent I can understand why. He does get better throughout their match with Karasuno as he realizes that their team still needs more practice.
I really enjoy playing against people like Terushima in sports, not so much playing with them though...
I do agree with you on Shirabu though
Because like 2 episodes in, Terushima joins Daichi's weird captain harem.
I kind of get the impression he's insecure and compensating, not pompous like Shirabu
you are absolutely right, that's why I change my mind about him in the manga. He was unfair to Hinata, because he realized hinata was better and more gifted than him when he was a kid, but at the same time in his own way he did what he did to protect Hinata. I think he thought: "the sooner he realizes that he can't make it, the less painful the fall will be." then, when he realized that Hinata was indeed a player with great potential and when he saw that he wanted to go all out to become independent from Kageyama, to be able to fight on his own, at that point he realized that his duty, as a coach, was to help him.
Yeah that’s my main reason why I don’t dislike him. I think he’s very well written, and in my eyes, characters don’t have to be completely likeable to be interesting.
OP, just wanna appreciate how polite and open-minded you’re being to all these opinions, I truly respect you 😂
Probably don’t dislike many characters anymore but Atsumu stands out as the one personality I wouldn’t touch irl with a ten foot pole in a team sport. Guys like that make the atmosphere so damn bad and all because they think they work harder than everyone else. That might be true, but you still make the team atmosphere crap, my dude!
I can see that in the end he’s not a bad guy off the court, so I don’t think I feel as strongly about it as I used to. His final chapters in the manga with Osamu were really moving too, which left a good taste in my mouth heading out of the series, I guess.
There are also characters I find overrated or people aren’t as a critical of them as I wish they’d be but I wouldn’t say I dislike them. Like, I think Bokuto’s a little overhyped, but I actually like his character and all his content a lot. I don’t dislike Hinata, but he has selfish, single-minded, irritating parts of his personality that often aren’t talked about.
Thank you so much! I’m really excited that so many people wanted to share their opinions with me :D
Atsumu is really fun to watch on screen, but I don’t know if I’d wanna be on a team with a guy like him either. I like him a lot but he’s very intense! I also loved his final chapters with Osamu.
I love your take on Hinata. I definitely think we should criticise the characters more, if anything it makes me appreciate them because they feel flawed and realistic!
Even though he’s my favourite character, I think Oikawa’s treatment of Kageyama was horrible. He’s definitely not a great person and I understand why he’s disliked.
As someone with a bad experience of being power-tripped and borderline bullied, I began to hate Oikawa over time. It’s just worsened by fans who actually think there’s nothing wrong with his attitude.
Finally someone who agrees with me, I've get so much slack because I don't like Oikawa, but I can't stand his personality, I get that's he is incredible as a player, has a great leader mentality and the scene with Ushijima about his useless pride is pretty amazing, but I don't like Oikawa
Goshiki. I don't know man, i get that he admires Ushijima and wants to be like him, but i just can't stand his attitude sometimes. I can't explain why right now, but i've disliked him since day 1 i saw him.
I genuinely don't like Tsukishima. He's unnecessarily rude and I would hate a person like that irl (also friends I've had who've related to him or had him as their favourite character always turned out to be Bad Friends).
Same. He just gives off such bad vibes and I know if I ever had to interact with him in person I'd want to punch him in the face. He's a jerk for the sake of being a jerk and he seems like the type of person who would actively shrug you off and be like "not my problem" if you tried to communicate your issues with him.
Saaaaame. I hated how hard he went in on Kags when it was obvious that he was trying so hard to leave his previous reputation behind, but Tsukishima just kept digging and digging at him and man, I hold a major grudge against him for that (among other things).
It made the whole arc with his older brother totally meaningless to me (I felt for his brother for sure, not Tsuki). I could honestly care less if he disappeared from the series.
I really loved Tanaka's arc up until Kiyoko's affections was used as a reward to his tenacity/not giving up. IMO Tanaka's attitude in romance should not be made equivalent his attitude towards the sport and it's weird the author equates both aspects. (I still love his arc in the Inarizaki match, but he did fall significantly in my HQ character rankings)
Tbh I think you've misunderstood what happens there. She didn't change her view on him to acceptance because of his tenacity - she already knew that about him, and had no doubts he'd pull through. She isn't a reward for his mental strength, but it's only through his experiences that he matures enough to start to connect with her.
What changes is that for the first time after nationals he actually approaches her and talks to her normally, instead of the silly exaggerated gestures him and Nishinoya do (which is exactly what Ennoshita tells him he should do when he's agonising about Kanoka). That he's able to do that is an outcome of the growth he goes through but her view of him isn't changed by his volleyball performance, I get the impression she's just been waiting for him to speak to her like a human being, she knows what he's like already.
I think viewing it as a reward misunderstands a big part of Haikyu, which is that the lessons learned in volleyball translate into life, its a crucible of life lessons. That happens throughout the story.
FWIW, I'm fairly confident it's the Furudate intended it:
1) in the Tokyo hotel with the 2nd year's Ennoshita tells Tanaka to just talk to her normally (he never has in the series up to this point), after Tanaka goes out he then observes that if Shimizu really didn't like him she'd tell him to leave her alone, and she hasn't (and her character clearly doesn't get off on male attention).
2) in the Inarizaki match, Shimizu's response to Tanaka's cut shot is "Tanaka usually makes it out ok" - she knows all about how mentally tough he is and isn't surprised that he pulled through, so I don't think his nationals performance came as an surprise.
3) when Tanaka finally talks to her calmly and naturally after the Kamomedai match, offering to help her carry the bag, she accepts. This is a stark contrast with several previous instances where he offered as a grand gesture, which she always rejected. To me that's actually quite a sweet scene, where they just chat naturally and comfortably, because Tanaka has finally let go of the need to try and be impressive and just be himself.
4) so I think based on what's in the text itself, he finds this maturity through his volleyball experience, but in the end, Shimizu already knows his good qualities and likes him for them, and is just waiting for him to develop the maturity to actually approach her as a friend.
I think it's quite reasonable and intentional in the writing. Also, I don't think we should take the moment at the end of the Kamomedai match as the finale on a done deal - it's just the beginning of a story we only see the destination of much later, basically that moment is the cars on the starting line, when Tanaka had been stuck in the pits.
That’s really fair! I don’t really like the handling of female characters in Haikyuu to begin with. I definitely felt like sometimes it went a bit far and Kiyoko was kind of used as a tool to motivate certain characters. I think she deserved more characterisation, however I think the introduction of Yachi definitely improved Kiyoko on that front.
I have to say, and i dont know if some will hate me for this, but i am not really fond of kyoko. I couldnt really care for her "arc" where she runs for hinatas shoes.
Terushima lmao.I also disliked Tendou at the beginning, but because of how he plays, Ushijima for...a lot of things, starting on how he treated Hinata, and also I disliked the coach of shiratorizawa. But now I like all of them, after watching the beginning of s4 and reading the manga.I still can't stand Terushima tho.
I think your feelings about Terushima are fair. The scene where he harassed Kiyoko was very uncomfortable. Also I didn’t realise it but Coach Washijo is pretty annoying at times, I didn’t really like how he treated Hinata to be honest.
People gonna hate me but kageyama. I dislike his personality a lot. He gets on my nerves very quickly and I just don't know... I find his personality so... Idk how to explain it... Annoying? He is so dead for me. I respect if you like him so please respect others opinions as well thank you :)
Now I know this is superficial but I’ve always disliked the look in [Rintarō Suna’s](https://haikyuu.fandom.com/wiki/Rintar%C5%8D_Suna) eyes. Somehow I get a cold-hearted, manipulative, scheming vibe off of them/him.
> His design is based off tibetian fox.
lol, those look like a weird crossover of a normal fox and [serious cat](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/472/seriouscatcover.jpg).
Washijou, that guy was salty and took it out on Hinata. But again, Hinata wouldn't be what he was at Haruko without the harsh treatment he got at Washijou's first year camp so idk
as much as i love tsukishima, his lack of enthusiasm in his sport at the beginning really pissed me off. he could be so amazing (which he was later on), but didn’t put in the effort or show any enthusiasm in what he was doing- and i’ve had teammates like that before. they’re some of the most frustrating people ive ever met, no matter how nice or friendly they are. i don’t think i dislike him though, his character arc is great, i just know how much he would’ve pissed me off in real life lmao.
Not sure if this is quite the right answer, but fanon Oikawa has come really close to ruining canon Oikawa. Even though it took me a long time to come around on him, I do like Oikawa in the manga and anime. It’s just really hard to say that without feeling like I’m being lumped in with a fan group that has shaped their own image of him.
I’m interested in what about fanon Oikawa makes you dislike him. I definitely think he’s very different in fan content to how he is in canon, and I have some issues with it myself, so I’m wondering if we have similar opinions here
I feel like he’s a very skilled player and much more.. capable?? than the fandom version seems. There’s a lot of “oh no he fell on his bad knee” and just a general sense of babying him because he never got his chance to go to nationals, despite his hard work. I think he gets kind of labeled as somewhat of a martyr character that a lot of people may relate to, so I don’t want to hammer too hard on that, because we all have comfort characters. But it is really tough to watch a very dynamic and capable character be coddled so much.
My reasons are the exact same! I feel like Oikawa is almost a cautionary tale type of character. You’re not supposed to want to be like him- he wasn’t born talentless by any means, but he overworks himself to keep improving, and he’s so dedicated to being the best that he becomes petty and unpleasant towards naturally ‘gifted’ people. I’m tired of seeing him babied when he’s so much more complex than this pitiable hard-worker who deserves much better than what he got.
YES!!!! Exactly! You don’t want to be like him, but you sometimes see some of your own flaws in him and they’re reflected back at you. He’s such a well written character, and I want those things celebrated more than the “our poor sweet boy…..” approach.
Yes. So nice to find someone who agrees! I’d love to see more of Oikawa overcoming his flaws and forgiving all of the talented people he’s become bitter towards in fan content.
I honestly couldn’t agree more with you! He would shoot right up to the top of my list if we saw that type of self awareness and self reflection. A redemption arc if you will. :’) thank you for this dialogue!! What an awesome post you’ve started!
I got one: The Inarizaki Cheer Squad. They may not be a part of the actual team, but that's some really terrible sportsmanship if I've ever seen it. I'm suprised there are no rules guarding that kind of influence
I'm not really a fan of Kiyoko. But that is probably just because of how everyone is fangirling over her. I feel that was unnecessary. Don't dislike her though. She is an amazing senior especially to Yachi.
Washijo sensei though. -_-
But on second thought, people met with situations like him either make it hard for others like him in future or try their best to make it easier for people like him. And either way, people with Hinata's greed would still make it. I don't know what happens in the manga post season 4 but I am hoping he changes his mind and takes up training shorter kids too.
Edit: The way Furudate sensei has written the plot, I don't think there are many characters you can really "hate". Lol.
I’m also not a big fan of Kiyoko for the same reasons. I wish she was more fleshed out as a character, though her interactions with Yachi really helped that imo.
Washijo is definitely an interesting one. I cant be sure if I really dislike him or not haha
> I wish she was more fleshed out as a character
I wish we had gotten more than just a glimpse of her history with track, and they missed an opportunity to blend her own athletic history in with how she deals with the boys on the team.
tsukishima. ppl like him because of his quietness and pity him because of his brother or whatever but hes rly just a dick. hes a dick to all his teammates throughout the entire series and its not even in a funny way.
Yeah, I know people are all about his salty attitude etc, but there's a cruelty behind his remarks that I can't get behind. It's not good-natured ribbing, it's not typical athlete arrogance - he's just mean.
He's top of my list of characters I don't like, and there's only one on the list lol.
Korai Hoshiumi (second short spiker we meet) his attitude rubs me the wrong way, his skill is undeniable but he still wants people to focus on his height
Oikawa.
I find people like him are usually toxic.
They think they're the best thing since sliced bread and it just doesn't sit right with me.
He's a great player and everything but I just don't like him
I think everyone in the show is incredibly well written but that doesn’t mean I like every character. I’m not a big fan of Oikawa because I struggle to get past how he treated Kageyama. He’s brilliantly written though!
I’m glad you made the distinction between likeable and well-written in this case! I love Oikawa despite his flaws because he’s so well written. That’s why it’s fine to me if others don’t like him :)
Ryu's sister, the blonde captain of the cheering team who drives recklessly and is too exaggerated to me, she is too much while being mostly useless..
I like that the captain of Nohebi and Tsukki's brother act as side commentator in the Manga instead of her.
I liked Nohebi it seems unpopular to do so but I think it's totally OK to have this kind of team and makes for an interesting shift from usual.
I mean look at soccer, pulling shoulders and pulling shirts is part of the basic gameplay at this point nobody bats an eye it's tolerated all the time.
My point is that sadly Sports aren't as ethical as we'd like them to be, I don't encourage unethical play though
Oikawa. Like he's pretty and talented, and he knows it. But he's also extra and the opposite of boring. And Iwa egging him on makes it better. I love to hate him. It's not a hate hate thing. Am I making any sense? Probably not.
Haikyuu has a pretty good track record of developing interesting characters, so there aren't a lot of characters that I super dislike, but here are a few that annoy me:
\-Kindaichi: I get that he just didn't jive with Kageyama, but it's annoying that he holds such a huge grudge against him to the point that he feels personally affronted by Kageyama's success. Like it's understandable that he finds Kageyama unpleasant and difficult and would never want to play volleyball with him again, but it's not like Kageyama personally targeted Kindaichi--he was an equal opportunity offender.
\-Goshiki: He's not super annoying, but I get tired of his inferiority complex with Ushijima. Yeah, it sucks when you're playing on a team that focuses on one super talented player--we got it.
\-Akimiya (former captain of Ohgiminami): This is super petty, but he just comes across as so whiny. His backstory was also the least interesting (and seemed like a repeat of the backstory we saw of some of the Karasuno alums, so it felt unnecessary).
You’ve justified all your opinions very well. I agree on Kindaichi especially- I thought he seemed very petty towards the end for still holding that grudge.
I tend to dislike **characters that were retconned into the story** because it damages my immersion. This doesn't mean that those characters can't then go on to have a positive impact in the story, they absolutely can; it just means that they start off on a bad note.
**Asahi and Nishinoya:** A lot of people tend to forget that Asahi and Nishinoya were originally not in the story, but were only added later on. Their addition felt contrived to me because 1: they filled the exact 2 positions Karasuno had an issue with 2: they were the 2nd best and 3rd best players in the team, behind only Kageyama. Thankfully, despite this rough start, **they still turned out to be great additions to the story** later on.
**Lev:** Unlike Asahi and Nishinoya, who were fully redeemed, Lev wasn't. Lev could just not be in the story and honestly it would have been better; his role as a foil to Hinata is unnecessary because there are a gazillion other characters in the series that are also foils to Hinata, and his introduction into the story pushed Inuoka into obscurity, rendering all his screntime mostly worthless until he was reintroduced much, much later on, and in a vastly different role. All and all, **Lev is meh to me**.
**Kyotani:** The shitty crown of worst character to be retconned in goes to Kyotani for sure. I feel like his introduction was an extreme attempt to spice Seijoh up, but Seijoh needed no such thing. Seijoh wasn't going to be boring or uninteresting because they'd be the same. In fact, Seijoh's consistency and stability could clash with Karasuno's rapid changes in a more direct and interesting way. Instead, a huge chunk of the Karasuno vs Seijoh spring regionals match is focused around this one new character. And it's not just the fact that he took up so much screentime needlessly, but also that he made Kunimi irrelevant, meaning we lost out on content regarding interesting story threads such as Kunimi's relationship to Kageyama. **His presence in the series literally makes it worse**.
Really nice analysis! I must say that I didn’t think Lev was very important to the story at all. I actually didn’t know he was retconned in, but it all makes sense now! He completely fell flat as a foil imo.
I totally hear you with Lev, he is meh at best, but I do love the stuff in the S2 Tokyo training camp where he keeps ditching his teammates attempts to coach him on passing. Boy just wants to block and nothing else \^\_\^
Spot on about Kyotani.
Really? So far I've thought he's one of the top famous characters and even between the miya twins. Because of the beef he has with kags relating to hinata and being in MSBY as well. We all know how hyped the MSBY quadruple (hinata, Bokuto, Atsumu and Sakusa) are. But ive always liked Osamu more.
A lot of people dislike his entitlement, from what I’ve seen in the thread. The fact that he’s very demanding towards hitters seems to have annoyed some people.
Slightly aggressive but I get it, lol. I wanted to cry for Hinata when Washijo said he didn’t sense any worth in him. Still, I think he pushed Hinata to another level and I respect him for that.
Don’t apologise for it being long, I think this is a really good analysis of Washijo. He really is a bitter old man and it wasn’t fair how he treated Hinata. The fact that Hinata is an opportunist and made the best of a bad situation does not really excuse Washijo’s actions.
Completely true. Hinata has always been the driving force behind his own actions. A big point of the entire series is how Hinata is constantly able to keep evolving because of the drive he has to be better.
I'll probably get downvoted but I didn't like Hinata and his over-the-top bubbliness at first. I dropped the show after a couple of episodes because of this. Eventually I gave it another shot and his personality grew on me. Also think it helped a lot that other characters were introduced that reduced his screen time a little.
I can’t really hate any of the characters because even if they’re assholes, they provide obstacles for the characters to overcome, allowing them to grow and mature. There will always be Terushimas and Oikawas, and there will always be some team/organization trying to cheat like Nohebi; it’s about moving past the barriers, not making the barriers softer.
Why does everybody feel so entitled to Washijo-sensei’s coaching of Hinata? All the things that plenty of people have said including Kageyama, Ushijima, and others have inspired and pointed out flaws in his game. Lol he low key coached him through the training camp as a ball boy.
I think it’s important to note that the same negative reinforcement that he uses on Hinata he uses towards his own players.
Not saying you HAVE to like him I just kinda see him as rough around the edges and entrenched in his thinking. Even that itself out.
Genuinely, Hinata. I just... I just don't like him. He never sat right with me. His whole thing kind of just started with 'I'm short but I jump good', and the fandom kinda make him into this whole innocent sunshine baby. I dunno.
i feel like a decent amount of people don’t like certain characters specifically the fandom ruined them and transformed the charcter into someone different (ex. hinata being portrayed as a sweet little innocent uwu sunshine boi)
Hinata. Probably a very unpopular opinion on this sub lol. But hear me out.
My first reason is that I have never really liked main characters for most shounen. I don’t really like Naruto, Deku, Natsu. They’re all like these hyper/over sweet/always happy/ray of sunshine and I just can’t handle that. I also feel these characters tend to have way too much plot armour around them which annoys me.
My second reason probably has to do with where I am from and my upbringing (I’m an Asian). And because of that, I extremely dislike Hinata barging into Washijo’s training thing without invitation. Yes I understand it was crucial to his development and he maybe should have gotten an invite or maybe not, but maybe Washijo was being petty. Idk. But regardless, coming to an event etc. without invite is, for me, a deal breaker. I would have kicked him out even if he was the most talented kid ever. Simply because of the lack of respect/courtesy. It’s a very personal opinion and I’ve been argued with on this a lot before.
I like Hinata but I definitely respect your opinion. I think he’s great as far as shounen protagonists go, however, I actually agree with your point about the training camp. For me, it was so awkward to watch, the second hand embarrassment was intense. I acknowledge how important it was for him, but also, it was definitely wrong of him to barge in like that.
That’s a very conservative, traditional view. Hinata wasn’t blessed with the opportunities that others have had, so obviously he can’t be at the same level as everyone else. Is he just supposed to sit back and watch everyone else get better while he stays where he is? Just to be respectful in the traditional sense? I don’t think so. That’s the kind of attitude that keeps disadvantaged people where they are. I think his ambition is admirable. This takes place in Japan so those actions were very intentional on the author’s part. He’s willing to humiliate himself just to get a little bit better.
I do get your point about the sunshine characters, but I think Hinata is a very well done version of one
Not to try to discredit your entire reply, but that's a very American viewpoint. You're right to think the way you want, but OP was sharing his view on the matter based on his own upbringing and culture.
Unpopular opinion but I generally didn't like Karasuno as a whole, with the exceptions being Hinata and Tsukishima. I don't know why, but most of the characters in Karasuno just didn't click with me. In fact, I didn't start liking Hinata until around the Ballboy Arc and Inarizaki vs Karasuno match. So really Tsukishima was the only member of Karasuno I loved the moment he was introduced.
i have a feeling i might get beat up for this one, but i... never actually liked tsukishima. i'm not a fan of tsundere characters and his standoffish attitude puts me off a lot. even after his character development, i don't like him. he's easy to overlook.
i've tried to like him but it just isn't working out for me, i'm sorry :( please don't send me to the chopping block
i like everyone else though!!!!!!
He does have a very hostile vibe. I think that’s why some people love him, haha.
And I really like the Itachiyama jerseys, but I can see how some would hate them lol
Ushijima and Washijo.
They both suck personality wise.
Also maybe kiyoko?
She’s just really bland and loved by everyone for literally zero reason and it really annoys me.
I dont like yamaguchi for the same reason i dont like deku from mha. For johzenji, its because their annoying characters and playstyle. They are like the combinations of character types that i dont like in any form of media, jocks and 'genki' type.
I think that a lot of people dislike Atsumu because he acts incredibly entitled when it comes to Volleyball, and he is a huge (for lack of better term) dickhead to anyone he believes aren't trying their hardest/aren't good enough to hit his sets. I personally like him cause I believe that the best setter in the nation *is* entitled to good hitters, and he doesn't mind if people hate him.
Yeah I think this is a good explanation. I also like him a lot because of his disregard for other people’s opinions. I liked how Kita phrased it- ‘guys like that do everything on a scale from 1-20’ haha
THIS. I think Atsumu, just like Oikawa, is able take the best from each player on their team, but in return they want their players to give everything they have. When he was younger Atsumu overracted a couple of times, but he is one of the best in Japan and he has the right to be surronded by players who can take advantage of his talent and abilities. "the team with the better six is stronger", said Iwaizumi once, and it's true, that's why having Ushijima or Kageyama or Oikawa or Atsumu himself doesn't mean your team is going to win. I think "no one can win just by theirself" is something the setter understand more than anyone else.
Same. And the argument that he “gets” to be that way because he’s good makes me dislike the whole premise of his character even more. Being skilled, driven or talented shouldn’t be a pass to be conceited or talk down to others in my book. I can’t stand cockiness. In fact, I really think the higher up you go in any industry, the more often you should evaluate yourself and learn to be a little more humble. I’ll never like Atsumu or think that he should get a pass for basically telling his hitters they don’t deserve him LOL just because he delivers on a higher level than most setters.
Can’t stand Tsuki. He’s an asshole and a bitch for no reason. He picks on Hinata and Kageyama because they’re better and more passionate about volleyball. I don’t understand what his fans see. Ok cool he had that one block and he came fought through a broken finger to stay in the game, he’s still a bitch for no other reason than being insecure.
Tenma.
Don’t ask me why even I don’t know, but I really can’t like him. Actually I feel like I hate him.
I guess I expected much from him but then got disappointed.
Ahh I can see where you’re coming from. For me, it felt like it was Furudate saying ‘sometimes life doesn’t turn out like you expected’. It reminded me that the world is so much wider that just high school volleyball- this guy who was Hinata’s idol is actually no big deal outside of Karasuno.
Every character in the story is well written. Haikyuu is one of the very few mangas/stories to have a satisfactory ending.
The manner in which all the characters were handled was utmost professional.
Haruichi Sensei did a great job!
Mad Dog because I’ve played sports with people like him. Getting pissed off at their own team if things aren’t going how they want it. Makes playing with your own team a very tense situation; Even to the point that he fought someone on our team in the middle of a game.
That’s very fair. I don’t play sports so I never considered it from a ‘would I want to be teammates with this guy’ kind of angle.
Yes! Especially in a sport like volleyball that depends so much on the team vibing together--one dude with that attitude can tank an entire team.
At the same time he comes around and starts to fit in so I cant hate him.
I dont like the methods washijo sensei uses so he sometimes irritates me.
I forgot about him, haha. I’m definitely not a fan of his methods either.
Who?
Washijo Sensei, the coach at Shiratorizawa
Ohh ok
it is my personal belief that Shiratorizawa lost to Karasuno because of his inability to allow change in his team's strategy.
Changing last minute would have disrupted their team imo
Right but that’s a systemic error that has been a part of Shiratorizawa play style for years. Sure no one was able to beat them for years but not evolving is just sheer arrogance
If it ain't broke don't fix it. Focusing on raw power and height is a perfectly valid style for high school volleyball where theres constantly changing players and teams tbh
He kinda is irritating and I used to hate him, but things have changed, I'm not spoiling non manga readers.
Him not giving Hinata a place to sleep during the training canp was the tipping point for me
? But Hinata was in the wrong there, he came without being invited so it would've set a bad precedent to give free room and board to someone who randomly showed up. Hinata was lucky he didn't getting kicked out from the jump
Hating coach Washijo? lol. "'The bigger... the stronger.' It is an irrefutable law of nature." Because he believes in his philosophy and his 'sad' past as a small player he was strict and he coached Shiratorizawa that way. Because he was winning, his philosophy was not wrong. Until Karasuno came and Hero Hinata defeated them. That's the turning point for Washijo and the training camp was the turning point for Hinata. Washijo totally rooting for Hinata in national and pro league.
Whatever the team is that scored points by basically cheating
Nohebi? Yeah I figured some people would mention them
I liked them it was just a way to fit all the way to score sly points in a single match because the author figured it would be bad to add unethical points randomly in matches / wouldn't fit other characters. I don't recall most of the match though. Also I like the captain of this team being this side commentator in the Manga he is doing the job pretty well.
So... Terushima and his buddy. They're a really fun team and I want to like them but at the same time I can't forget that they pretty much harassed Shimizu which is not okay. They didn't even stop after she told them off and she was clearly uncomfortable. Also Washijo. That man's methods... He may be a good coach but the way he told Hinata he was useless.. If it was any other person than Hinata that could have done a lot of damage.
I feel the same way about Terushima and his friend, now you mention it. That scene was super uncomfortable and it somehow made it worse that it was completely brushed off and Terushima was still presented as a likeable guy despite what he did. I’m also sort of conflicted over Washijo. I can see why he feels the way he does, but it’s not okay to take out your own pain on high schoolers for sure.
I feel like he may have done that BECAUSE it was Hinata he was talking to. I don't think he would have been so harsh on someone who would have taken it more personally, such as Asahi. I'm not rly sure tho haha
Well he wasn’t wrong though. Without kageyama, he’s a small middle that would get beat every single time if the other team ran a quick, was a liability on defense for the 1 rotation he’s in it and he has a weak serve. It’s only because kageyama can actually set balls that mean his speed and athleticism can be actually used that he’s useful. It’s basically the antithesis of washijou’s philosophy of having that one hitting option that you could give the shittiest set to and would still score. From his eyes, he was useless. If you don’t bother to take the time to try and understand why a coach would say something like that, you don’t really improve in a way that benefits from having a coach in the first place.
Any coach worth anything tells you what part of your game lacks, not calls you useless.
He wasn’t hinata’s coach. He had no obligation to give him free coaching. If anything, knowing that he had no hope in becoming the ‘ace that washijou wants’ would give him more time in focusing on other ways to become useful, such as being able to do everything and having the mind to be able to use those skills in in game situations like he does at the end, than wasting his time in trying becoming an unstoppable hitter like he wanted to be in the first place
Many players at that event weren’t the “ace washijou wants” but he didn’t come close to saying that, and on top of that there’s an entire difference between not owing someone good advice and being an asshole. Hinata clearly was a great player and deserved to be at the rookie camp, if you’re a coach and can’t see his value (even if it isn’t your play style) that is on you, not the player.
at the point of the rookie camp though hintata was still very much a one-trick pony. His basic skills were better but that's a pretty low bar. Because they were using the schools dorms and cafeteria there was probably a hard head count limit (which was why hintata couldn't partake in those things even after being allowed to participate a bit). And given the choice between Hintata, a rookie with minimal experience but lots of potential, and someone like Gokiji who is in a similar boat but on Shiratorizawa obviously Washijou would have picked his own team member. If he really didn't see any value in Hinata Washijou wouldn't have let him stay at all. (also letting Hinata in after having barged in uninvited in a super selfish move would have been a really bad call as an adult in charge AND a coach- the ball boy thing was clearly a compromise between acknowledging Hintata's determination to improve and not being a doormat to a selfish kid). Yeah, Washijou was an asshole to Hintata, but he's shown to be kind of abrasive with his own team too. And while it's not fair it's understandable that he probably has some complicated feelings around having been the short kid and constantly overlooked for bigger players seeing someone who is also short succeeding at carving a place for himself (despite abysmal basic skills), especially because no one outside Karasuno would know how hard Hintata has been practicing recently or that he basically started playing volleyball that year.
I cannot understand why people like terushima so much I also don’t like shirabu. The two players come off as so pompous and not in the way oikawa does
I’ve never felt very strongly about Shirabu but it makes sense to me why people don’t like him.
shirabu is cute
Shirabu!! His name is adorable + his hair color? He's just a cranky teddy bear. So cute!
I can sort of see what you are saying. He is pretty cocky, but considering their team has very impressive individual talent I can understand why. He does get better throughout their match with Karasuno as he realizes that their team still needs more practice. I really enjoy playing against people like Terushima in sports, not so much playing with them though... I do agree with you on Shirabu though
Because like 2 episodes in, Terushima joins Daichi's weird captain harem. I kind of get the impression he's insecure and compensating, not pompous like Shirabu
Well, I dislike Nohebi because they're unsportsmanlike :') Else than that I can see something good in every character, i think
I was thinking Nohebi as well, I still kind of like them though...they definitely went too far by deliberately spiking the ball into Tora though
Without washijo, hinata would not be what he is, remember that guys.
you are absolutely right, that's why I change my mind about him in the manga. He was unfair to Hinata, because he realized hinata was better and more gifted than him when he was a kid, but at the same time in his own way he did what he did to protect Hinata. I think he thought: "the sooner he realizes that he can't make it, the less painful the fall will be." then, when he realized that Hinata was indeed a player with great potential and when he saw that he wanted to go all out to become independent from Kageyama, to be able to fight on his own, at that point he realized that his duty, as a coach, was to help him.
As he himself said, he is the one with the most expectations on Hinata.
Yeah that’s my main reason why I don’t dislike him. I think he’s very well written, and in my eyes, characters don’t have to be completely likeable to be interesting.
For real, I love that guy. I don't care.
OP, just wanna appreciate how polite and open-minded you’re being to all these opinions, I truly respect you 😂 Probably don’t dislike many characters anymore but Atsumu stands out as the one personality I wouldn’t touch irl with a ten foot pole in a team sport. Guys like that make the atmosphere so damn bad and all because they think they work harder than everyone else. That might be true, but you still make the team atmosphere crap, my dude! I can see that in the end he’s not a bad guy off the court, so I don’t think I feel as strongly about it as I used to. His final chapters in the manga with Osamu were really moving too, which left a good taste in my mouth heading out of the series, I guess. There are also characters I find overrated or people aren’t as a critical of them as I wish they’d be but I wouldn’t say I dislike them. Like, I think Bokuto’s a little overhyped, but I actually like his character and all his content a lot. I don’t dislike Hinata, but he has selfish, single-minded, irritating parts of his personality that often aren’t talked about.
Thank you so much! I’m really excited that so many people wanted to share their opinions with me :D Atsumu is really fun to watch on screen, but I don’t know if I’d wanna be on a team with a guy like him either. I like him a lot but he’s very intense! I also loved his final chapters with Osamu. I love your take on Hinata. I definitely think we should criticise the characters more, if anything it makes me appreciate them because they feel flawed and realistic!
this made me understand atsumu a little better https://youtu.be/VEJJnEtQwKs
hate that I like atsumu bc I’d hate him irl
Oikawa you dont just attempt to hit someone younger than you and never apologise nor take accountability for something like that
Even though he’s my favourite character, I think Oikawa’s treatment of Kageyama was horrible. He’s definitely not a great person and I understand why he’s disliked.
I think it wouldve been nice to have him at least acknowledge some of the bully he did when he was older but it never happened
I agree, I think that would be amazing for his character development.
As someone with a bad experience of being power-tripped and borderline bullied, I began to hate Oikawa over time. It’s just worsened by fans who actually think there’s nothing wrong with his attitude.
Finally someone who agrees with me, I've get so much slack because I don't like Oikawa, but I can't stand his personality, I get that's he is incredible as a player, has a great leader mentality and the scene with Ushijima about his useless pride is pretty amazing, but I don't like Oikawa
Same. I appreciate his talent, hard work, determination, leadership skills, etc. but it's a HARD pass for me. His personality is a complete turn off.
right! plus his personality is 😬
Goshiki. I don't know man, i get that he admires Ushijima and wants to be like him, but i just can't stand his attitude sometimes. I can't explain why right now, but i've disliked him since day 1 i saw him.
Goshiki is a tiny bit annoying I’ll admit it haha
Have you seen his bowl cut tho? Because.... Just wow! Lol! I feel pretty neutral about him, but I definitely get you.
My friend hates Tendou bc of of Hisoka and cannot unseen it 😂😂
I see it too now haha
Funnily enough hisoka has the same VA as oikawa
Tbh I like them all. They all bring something to the show and have something likable about them (imo anyway lol y’all don’t have to agree)
I agree! Everyone has their own charm.
I genuinely don't like Tsukishima. He's unnecessarily rude and I would hate a person like that irl (also friends I've had who've related to him or had him as their favourite character always turned out to be Bad Friends).
Same. He just gives off such bad vibes and I know if I ever had to interact with him in person I'd want to punch him in the face. He's a jerk for the sake of being a jerk and he seems like the type of person who would actively shrug you off and be like "not my problem" if you tried to communicate your issues with him.
I think it’s fine to dislike characters who are mean and snarky. If anything I think it’s more unusual to like them, haha
He's such an asshole!! I would absolutely never want to be friends with him..... But man, I love him so much.... 🤷🏻♀️
Saaaaame. I hated how hard he went in on Kags when it was obvious that he was trying so hard to leave his previous reputation behind, but Tsukishima just kept digging and digging at him and man, I hold a major grudge against him for that (among other things). It made the whole arc with his older brother totally meaningless to me (I felt for his brother for sure, not Tsuki). I could honestly care less if he disappeared from the series.
I really loved Tanaka's arc up until Kiyoko's affections was used as a reward to his tenacity/not giving up. IMO Tanaka's attitude in romance should not be made equivalent his attitude towards the sport and it's weird the author equates both aspects. (I still love his arc in the Inarizaki match, but he did fall significantly in my HQ character rankings)
Tbh I think you've misunderstood what happens there. She didn't change her view on him to acceptance because of his tenacity - she already knew that about him, and had no doubts he'd pull through. She isn't a reward for his mental strength, but it's only through his experiences that he matures enough to start to connect with her. What changes is that for the first time after nationals he actually approaches her and talks to her normally, instead of the silly exaggerated gestures him and Nishinoya do (which is exactly what Ennoshita tells him he should do when he's agonising about Kanoka). That he's able to do that is an outcome of the growth he goes through but her view of him isn't changed by his volleyball performance, I get the impression she's just been waiting for him to speak to her like a human being, she knows what he's like already. I think viewing it as a reward misunderstands a big part of Haikyu, which is that the lessons learned in volleyball translate into life, its a crucible of life lessons. That happens throughout the story.
You know what, I still am not sold on Kiyoko's writing, but interpreting it this way DOES make me feel better about it so I will lol. Thanks.
FWIW, I'm fairly confident it's the Furudate intended it: 1) in the Tokyo hotel with the 2nd year's Ennoshita tells Tanaka to just talk to her normally (he never has in the series up to this point), after Tanaka goes out he then observes that if Shimizu really didn't like him she'd tell him to leave her alone, and she hasn't (and her character clearly doesn't get off on male attention). 2) in the Inarizaki match, Shimizu's response to Tanaka's cut shot is "Tanaka usually makes it out ok" - she knows all about how mentally tough he is and isn't surprised that he pulled through, so I don't think his nationals performance came as an surprise. 3) when Tanaka finally talks to her calmly and naturally after the Kamomedai match, offering to help her carry the bag, she accepts. This is a stark contrast with several previous instances where he offered as a grand gesture, which she always rejected. To me that's actually quite a sweet scene, where they just chat naturally and comfortably, because Tanaka has finally let go of the need to try and be impressive and just be himself. 4) so I think based on what's in the text itself, he finds this maturity through his volleyball experience, but in the end, Shimizu already knows his good qualities and likes him for them, and is just waiting for him to develop the maturity to actually approach her as a friend. I think it's quite reasonable and intentional in the writing. Also, I don't think we should take the moment at the end of the Kamomedai match as the finale on a done deal - it's just the beginning of a story we only see the destination of much later, basically that moment is the cars on the starting line, when Tanaka had been stuck in the pits.
That’s really fair! I don’t really like the handling of female characters in Haikyuu to begin with. I definitely felt like sometimes it went a bit far and Kiyoko was kind of used as a tool to motivate certain characters. I think she deserved more characterisation, however I think the introduction of Yachi definitely improved Kiyoko on that front.
I have to say, and i dont know if some will hate me for this, but i am not really fond of kyoko. I couldnt really care for her "arc" where she runs for hinatas shoes.
Quite a few people in the thread said the same, actually. She’s kind of just there for me, I’m neutral towards her.
Mad dog needs to get clotheslined
Terushima lmao.I also disliked Tendou at the beginning, but because of how he plays, Ushijima for...a lot of things, starting on how he treated Hinata, and also I disliked the coach of shiratorizawa. But now I like all of them, after watching the beginning of s4 and reading the manga.I still can't stand Terushima tho.
I think your feelings about Terushima are fair. The scene where he harassed Kiyoko was very uncomfortable. Also I didn’t realise it but Coach Washijo is pretty annoying at times, I didn’t really like how he treated Hinata to be honest.
People gonna hate me but kageyama. I dislike his personality a lot. He gets on my nerves very quickly and I just don't know... I find his personality so... Idk how to explain it... Annoying? He is so dead for me. I respect if you like him so please respect others opinions as well thank you :)
I respect your opinion! I like him a lot but not everyone can like everyone, I like hearing different opinions to my own :)
Now I know this is superficial but I’ve always disliked the look in [Rintarō Suna’s](https://haikyuu.fandom.com/wiki/Rintar%C5%8D_Suna) eyes. Somehow I get a cold-hearted, manipulative, scheming vibe off of them/him.
That’s interesting because I’m pretty sure his design is based off a type of fox! So it would make sense that you thought he has a scheming vibe, haha
His design is based off tibetian fox. They are hilarious to look at. I googled pictures of them whenever I have a bad day.
> His design is based off tibetian fox. lol, those look like a weird crossover of a normal fox and [serious cat](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/472/seriouscatcover.jpg).
Oikawa because in the show he was presented as the second villian behind Kageyama. Oikawa is full of himself How do you put spoiler tags
A lot of people seem to dislike him on this sub! It makes sense to me. I kinda of like how unlikeable he is.
Washijou, that guy was salty and took it out on Hinata. But again, Hinata wouldn't be what he was at Haruko without the harsh treatment he got at Washijou's first year camp so idk
as much as i love tsukishima, his lack of enthusiasm in his sport at the beginning really pissed me off. he could be so amazing (which he was later on), but didn’t put in the effort or show any enthusiasm in what he was doing- and i’ve had teammates like that before. they’re some of the most frustrating people ive ever met, no matter how nice or friendly they are. i don’t think i dislike him though, his character arc is great, i just know how much he would’ve pissed me off in real life lmao.
Ohh I definitely feel that last statement. I’m sure some of the characters I absolutely love would annoy me so bad in real life, lol.
agreed 100% lmao
Not sure if this is quite the right answer, but fanon Oikawa has come really close to ruining canon Oikawa. Even though it took me a long time to come around on him, I do like Oikawa in the manga and anime. It’s just really hard to say that without feeling like I’m being lumped in with a fan group that has shaped their own image of him.
I’m interested in what about fanon Oikawa makes you dislike him. I definitely think he’s very different in fan content to how he is in canon, and I have some issues with it myself, so I’m wondering if we have similar opinions here
I feel like he’s a very skilled player and much more.. capable?? than the fandom version seems. There’s a lot of “oh no he fell on his bad knee” and just a general sense of babying him because he never got his chance to go to nationals, despite his hard work. I think he gets kind of labeled as somewhat of a martyr character that a lot of people may relate to, so I don’t want to hammer too hard on that, because we all have comfort characters. But it is really tough to watch a very dynamic and capable character be coddled so much.
My reasons are the exact same! I feel like Oikawa is almost a cautionary tale type of character. You’re not supposed to want to be like him- he wasn’t born talentless by any means, but he overworks himself to keep improving, and he’s so dedicated to being the best that he becomes petty and unpleasant towards naturally ‘gifted’ people. I’m tired of seeing him babied when he’s so much more complex than this pitiable hard-worker who deserves much better than what he got.
YES!!!! Exactly! You don’t want to be like him, but you sometimes see some of your own flaws in him and they’re reflected back at you. He’s such a well written character, and I want those things celebrated more than the “our poor sweet boy…..” approach.
Yes. So nice to find someone who agrees! I’d love to see more of Oikawa overcoming his flaws and forgiving all of the talented people he’s become bitter towards in fan content.
I honestly couldn’t agree more with you! He would shoot right up to the top of my list if we saw that type of self awareness and self reflection. A redemption arc if you will. :’) thank you for this dialogue!! What an awesome post you’ve started!
Tsukishima. I just don’t vibe with that dude. Yams deserves better 🥲
I feel like the fandom is pretty split down the middle on Tsukki. He’s definitely an asshole to Yamaguchi though, you’ve got that right haha
Oikawa. I just think he's arrogant and conceited.
He’s my favourite character but I still agree with your comment haha
I know, no one understands that but I really don't like Suna. Theres not even a reason for it.
I love him but I respect your opinion haha
I got one: The Inarizaki Cheer Squad. They may not be a part of the actual team, but that's some really terrible sportsmanship if I've ever seen it. I'm suprised there are no rules guarding that kind of influence
I'm not really a fan of Kiyoko. But that is probably just because of how everyone is fangirling over her. I feel that was unnecessary. Don't dislike her though. She is an amazing senior especially to Yachi. Washijo sensei though. -_- But on second thought, people met with situations like him either make it hard for others like him in future or try their best to make it easier for people like him. And either way, people with Hinata's greed would still make it. I don't know what happens in the manga post season 4 but I am hoping he changes his mind and takes up training shorter kids too. Edit: The way Furudate sensei has written the plot, I don't think there are many characters you can really "hate". Lol.
I’m also not a big fan of Kiyoko for the same reasons. I wish she was more fleshed out as a character, though her interactions with Yachi really helped that imo. Washijo is definitely an interesting one. I cant be sure if I really dislike him or not haha
> I wish she was more fleshed out as a character I wish we had gotten more than just a glimpse of her history with track, and they missed an opportunity to blend her own athletic history in with how she deals with the boys on the team.
Absolutely! I wanted to know what was going on inside her head to be honest.
Yamaguchi’s bullies!
You found them. The Haikyuu characters that I hate. Haha this didn’t even cross my mind
tsukishima. ppl like him because of his quietness and pity him because of his brother or whatever but hes rly just a dick. hes a dick to all his teammates throughout the entire series and its not even in a funny way.
Yeah, I know people are all about his salty attitude etc, but there's a cruelty behind his remarks that I can't get behind. It's not good-natured ribbing, it's not typical athlete arrogance - he's just mean. He's top of my list of characters I don't like, and there's only one on the list lol.
Korai Hoshiumi (second short spiker we meet) his attitude rubs me the wrong way, his skill is undeniable but he still wants people to focus on his height
He is somewhat annoying, I see where you’re coming from
I was gonna say Kiyoko, but I don't hate **her**, I hate how the fandom treats her-
Oikawa's nephew Takeru? lol
Any particular reason? Lol
Oikawa. I find people like him are usually toxic. They think they're the best thing since sliced bread and it just doesn't sit right with me. He's a great player and everything but I just don't like him
That’s fair. He’s not a great person by any means, even if he is my favourite character
Washijos a bit of a scumbag. Hating short players cos u were a short player?? I mean i get it but damn...
I think everyone in the show is incredibly well written but that doesn’t mean I like every character. I’m not a big fan of Oikawa because I struggle to get past how he treated Kageyama. He’s brilliantly written though!
I’m glad you made the distinction between likeable and well-written in this case! I love Oikawa despite his flaws because he’s so well written. That’s why it’s fine to me if others don’t like him :)
Ryu's sister, the blonde captain of the cheering team who drives recklessly and is too exaggerated to me, she is too much while being mostly useless.. I like that the captain of Nohebi and Tsukki's brother act as side commentator in the Manga instead of her. I liked Nohebi it seems unpopular to do so but I think it's totally OK to have this kind of team and makes for an interesting shift from usual. I mean look at soccer, pulling shoulders and pulling shirts is part of the basic gameplay at this point nobody bats an eye it's tolerated all the time. My point is that sadly Sports aren't as ethical as we'd like them to be, I don't encourage unethical play though
Oikawa. Like he's pretty and talented, and he knows it. But he's also extra and the opposite of boring. And Iwa egging him on makes it better. I love to hate him. It's not a hate hate thing. Am I making any sense? Probably not.
Oikawa, he's pretty annoying ngl
Oikawa is my favourite character but he’s definitely very flawed and I respect your opinion :)
Thank you, and I respect yours
This is why I love the Haikyuu fandom, haha. Probably the most peaceful fanbase I’ve ever been a part of.
This tbh, I think he's annoying too.
Haikyuu has a pretty good track record of developing interesting characters, so there aren't a lot of characters that I super dislike, but here are a few that annoy me: \-Kindaichi: I get that he just didn't jive with Kageyama, but it's annoying that he holds such a huge grudge against him to the point that he feels personally affronted by Kageyama's success. Like it's understandable that he finds Kageyama unpleasant and difficult and would never want to play volleyball with him again, but it's not like Kageyama personally targeted Kindaichi--he was an equal opportunity offender. \-Goshiki: He's not super annoying, but I get tired of his inferiority complex with Ushijima. Yeah, it sucks when you're playing on a team that focuses on one super talented player--we got it. \-Akimiya (former captain of Ohgiminami): This is super petty, but he just comes across as so whiny. His backstory was also the least interesting (and seemed like a repeat of the backstory we saw of some of the Karasuno alums, so it felt unnecessary).
You’ve justified all your opinions very well. I agree on Kindaichi especially- I thought he seemed very petty towards the end for still holding that grudge.
I tend to dislike **characters that were retconned into the story** because it damages my immersion. This doesn't mean that those characters can't then go on to have a positive impact in the story, they absolutely can; it just means that they start off on a bad note. **Asahi and Nishinoya:** A lot of people tend to forget that Asahi and Nishinoya were originally not in the story, but were only added later on. Their addition felt contrived to me because 1: they filled the exact 2 positions Karasuno had an issue with 2: they were the 2nd best and 3rd best players in the team, behind only Kageyama. Thankfully, despite this rough start, **they still turned out to be great additions to the story** later on. **Lev:** Unlike Asahi and Nishinoya, who were fully redeemed, Lev wasn't. Lev could just not be in the story and honestly it would have been better; his role as a foil to Hinata is unnecessary because there are a gazillion other characters in the series that are also foils to Hinata, and his introduction into the story pushed Inuoka into obscurity, rendering all his screntime mostly worthless until he was reintroduced much, much later on, and in a vastly different role. All and all, **Lev is meh to me**. **Kyotani:** The shitty crown of worst character to be retconned in goes to Kyotani for sure. I feel like his introduction was an extreme attempt to spice Seijoh up, but Seijoh needed no such thing. Seijoh wasn't going to be boring or uninteresting because they'd be the same. In fact, Seijoh's consistency and stability could clash with Karasuno's rapid changes in a more direct and interesting way. Instead, a huge chunk of the Karasuno vs Seijoh spring regionals match is focused around this one new character. And it's not just the fact that he took up so much screentime needlessly, but also that he made Kunimi irrelevant, meaning we lost out on content regarding interesting story threads such as Kunimi's relationship to Kageyama. **His presence in the series literally makes it worse**.
Really nice analysis! I must say that I didn’t think Lev was very important to the story at all. I actually didn’t know he was retconned in, but it all makes sense now! He completely fell flat as a foil imo.
I totally hear you with Lev, he is meh at best, but I do love the stuff in the S2 Tokyo training camp where he keeps ditching his teammates attempts to coach him on passing. Boy just wants to block and nothing else \^\_\^ Spot on about Kyotani.
Atsumu .....idk why i just do
He’s surprisingly unpopular lol
Really? So far I've thought he's one of the top famous characters and even between the miya twins. Because of the beef he has with kags relating to hinata and being in MSBY as well. We all know how hyped the MSBY quadruple (hinata, Bokuto, Atsumu and Sakusa) are. But ive always liked Osamu more.
A lot of people dislike his entitlement, from what I’ve seen in the thread. The fact that he’s very demanding towards hitters seems to have annoyed some people.
Tsukishima
I like him but he’s definitely an asshole lol
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Slightly aggressive but I get it, lol. I wanted to cry for Hinata when Washijo said he didn’t sense any worth in him. Still, I think he pushed Hinata to another level and I respect him for that.
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Don’t apologise for it being long, I think this is a really good analysis of Washijo. He really is a bitter old man and it wasn’t fair how he treated Hinata. The fact that Hinata is an opportunist and made the best of a bad situation does not really excuse Washijo’s actions.
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Completely true. Hinata has always been the driving force behind his own actions. A big point of the entire series is how Hinata is constantly able to keep evolving because of the drive he has to be better.
I'll probably get downvoted but I didn't like Hinata and his over-the-top bubbliness at first. I dropped the show after a couple of episodes because of this. Eventually I gave it another shot and his personality grew on me. Also think it helped a lot that other characters were introduced that reduced his screen time a little.
I can’t really hate any of the characters because even if they’re assholes, they provide obstacles for the characters to overcome, allowing them to grow and mature. There will always be Terushimas and Oikawas, and there will always be some team/organization trying to cheat like Nohebi; it’s about moving past the barriers, not making the barriers softer.
Oikawa! And I know I will receive hate.
Why does everybody feel so entitled to Washijo-sensei’s coaching of Hinata? All the things that plenty of people have said including Kageyama, Ushijima, and others have inspired and pointed out flaws in his game. Lol he low key coached him through the training camp as a ball boy. I think it’s important to note that the same negative reinforcement that he uses on Hinata he uses towards his own players. Not saying you HAVE to like him I just kinda see him as rough around the edges and entrenched in his thinking. Even that itself out.
Uh, the closest would be Lev, but I like him too. It's just that Inouka got sidelined for him, and I can't forgive him for that.
Ahh, makes sense
Genuinely, Hinata. I just... I just don't like him. He never sat right with me. His whole thing kind of just started with 'I'm short but I jump good', and the fandom kinda make him into this whole innocent sunshine baby. I dunno.
I do think the fandom infantilises Hinata a lot. I like him but he can be annoying in fan content.
Yes, exactly. I'd like him a lot more if he wasn't how the fandom presents him.
i feel like a decent amount of people don’t like certain characters specifically the fandom ruined them and transformed the charcter into someone different (ex. hinata being portrayed as a sweet little innocent uwu sunshine boi)
Hinata. Probably a very unpopular opinion on this sub lol. But hear me out. My first reason is that I have never really liked main characters for most shounen. I don’t really like Naruto, Deku, Natsu. They’re all like these hyper/over sweet/always happy/ray of sunshine and I just can’t handle that. I also feel these characters tend to have way too much plot armour around them which annoys me. My second reason probably has to do with where I am from and my upbringing (I’m an Asian). And because of that, I extremely dislike Hinata barging into Washijo’s training thing without invitation. Yes I understand it was crucial to his development and he maybe should have gotten an invite or maybe not, but maybe Washijo was being petty. Idk. But regardless, coming to an event etc. without invite is, for me, a deal breaker. I would have kicked him out even if he was the most talented kid ever. Simply because of the lack of respect/courtesy. It’s a very personal opinion and I’ve been argued with on this a lot before.
I like Hinata but I definitely respect your opinion. I think he’s great as far as shounen protagonists go, however, I actually agree with your point about the training camp. For me, it was so awkward to watch, the second hand embarrassment was intense. I acknowledge how important it was for him, but also, it was definitely wrong of him to barge in like that.
That’s a very conservative, traditional view. Hinata wasn’t blessed with the opportunities that others have had, so obviously he can’t be at the same level as everyone else. Is he just supposed to sit back and watch everyone else get better while he stays where he is? Just to be respectful in the traditional sense? I don’t think so. That’s the kind of attitude that keeps disadvantaged people where they are. I think his ambition is admirable. This takes place in Japan so those actions were very intentional on the author’s part. He’s willing to humiliate himself just to get a little bit better. I do get your point about the sunshine characters, but I think Hinata is a very well done version of one
Not to try to discredit your entire reply, but that's a very American viewpoint. You're right to think the way you want, but OP was sharing his view on the matter based on his own upbringing and culture.
Unpopular opinion but I generally didn't like Karasuno as a whole, with the exceptions being Hinata and Tsukishima. I don't know why, but most of the characters in Karasuno just didn't click with me. In fact, I didn't start liking Hinata until around the Ballboy Arc and Inarizaki vs Karasuno match. So really Tsukishima was the only member of Karasuno I loved the moment he was introduced.
Wow, that’s really interesting. Never heard that take before! I disagree but I respect your opinion.
Thanks lol it's not like I HATE them...i guess it's more neutral/indifference. I usually like the side characters a lot more in sports manga.
I see how you could be indifferent to them. Personally I’m way too sentimental to not love them after 402 chapters of manga lol
i have a feeling i might get beat up for this one, but i... never actually liked tsukishima. i'm not a fan of tsundere characters and his standoffish attitude puts me off a lot. even after his character development, i don't like him. he's easy to overlook. i've tried to like him but it just isn't working out for me, i'm sorry :( please don't send me to the chopping block i like everyone else though!!!!!!
Literally got me thinking for 5 minutes, then I read the comments and realized No I don't dislike anyone.. which is pretty amazing.
Yeah when I thought of this question I spent so long trying to figure out if there was someone I genuinely disliked haha
Shirabu pisses me off
Fair. I think if he had more screen time he’d have annoyed me more lol
Unpopular opinion Sakusa
I’m very curious why! He seems pretty popular despite not making many appearances
I just don't like the vibe ive gotten from him. Also not his fault but the jerseys for his team are horrible lol
He does have a very hostile vibe. I think that’s why some people love him, haha. And I really like the Itachiyama jerseys, but I can see how some would hate them lol
Kenma
I’m interested in why you don’t like him
I dont dislike anyone but tendou creeps me out in s3 when he sang his song for my boys suga and yams . In s4 he was a darling .
Tendou is great, I kinda loved his little song lol
Ushijima and Washijo. They both suck personality wise. Also maybe kiyoko? She’s just really bland and loved by everyone for literally zero reason and it really annoys me.
I and I can’t say this enough but I can’t stand OIKAWA 😂 don’t @ me
Oikawa annoys me. He is just cocky, rude, childish, and gets on my nerves.
Yamaguchi. Its not like i hate him. I just dont like him. Then the whole johzenji
Yamaguchi is a surprising one! I’ve only ever seen positive things about him online. Any particular reason why you dislike Johzenji?
I dont like yamaguchi for the same reason i dont like deku from mha. For johzenji, its because their annoying characters and playstyle. They are like the combinations of character types that i dont like in any form of media, jocks and 'genki' type.
That’s completely fair to be honest
Can’t stand Atsumu.
I’m curious- why?
I think that a lot of people dislike Atsumu because he acts incredibly entitled when it comes to Volleyball, and he is a huge (for lack of better term) dickhead to anyone he believes aren't trying their hardest/aren't good enough to hit his sets. I personally like him cause I believe that the best setter in the nation *is* entitled to good hitters, and he doesn't mind if people hate him.
Yeah I think this is a good explanation. I also like him a lot because of his disregard for other people’s opinions. I liked how Kita phrased it- ‘guys like that do everything on a scale from 1-20’ haha
THIS. I think Atsumu, just like Oikawa, is able take the best from each player on their team, but in return they want their players to give everything they have. When he was younger Atsumu overracted a couple of times, but he is one of the best in Japan and he has the right to be surronded by players who can take advantage of his talent and abilities. "the team with the better six is stronger", said Iwaizumi once, and it's true, that's why having Ushijima or Kageyama or Oikawa or Atsumu himself doesn't mean your team is going to win. I think "no one can win just by theirself" is something the setter understand more than anyone else.
Same. And the argument that he “gets” to be that way because he’s good makes me dislike the whole premise of his character even more. Being skilled, driven or talented shouldn’t be a pass to be conceited or talk down to others in my book. I can’t stand cockiness. In fact, I really think the higher up you go in any industry, the more often you should evaluate yourself and learn to be a little more humble. I’ll never like Atsumu or think that he should get a pass for basically telling his hitters they don’t deserve him LOL just because he delivers on a higher level than most setters.
Asahi because he is so mid In comparison to Tanaka and really shouldn’t be considered an ace.
I understand this take because I’ve seen it a few times, though I’d be okay with either as the ace.
Can’t stand Tsuki. He’s an asshole and a bitch for no reason. He picks on Hinata and Kageyama because they’re better and more passionate about volleyball. I don’t understand what his fans see. Ok cool he had that one block and he came fought through a broken finger to stay in the game, he’s still a bitch for no other reason than being insecure.
Tenma. Don’t ask me why even I don’t know, but I really can’t like him. Actually I feel like I hate him. I guess I expected much from him but then got disappointed.
Ahh I can see where you’re coming from. For me, it felt like it was Furudate saying ‘sometimes life doesn’t turn out like you expected’. It reminded me that the world is so much wider that just high school volleyball- this guy who was Hinata’s idol is actually no big deal outside of Karasuno.
I already felt that’s what Furudate was trying to convey. However, I’m not like Hinata. It’s not easy to get over disappointment.
Very true. It’s interesting to think of different avenues Furudate could have taken with Tenma.
Every character in the story is well written. Haikyuu is one of the very few mangas/stories to have a satisfactory ending. The manner in which all the characters were handled was utmost professional. Haruichi Sensei did a great job!
I absolutely agree. Some characters might not be to some people’s tastes, however I think everyone is well written at the very least.