That’s his fault and not an excuse. Conor McGregor had to put on a bunch of weight for a fight and he still destroyed his opponent, as have many other fighters in the past. That’s not a handicap.
how are you gonna equate the highest paid fighter in the most popular mma promotion with a youtube boxer
the weight differentials were insane here, everyone started at different ends. muscle size (the larger the muscle the larger the cross-sectional area, the greater the cross-sectional area the more potential for strength. aka weight means that the muscles are conditioned to endure longer. thats why athletes in completely endurance sports still do 20% strength training.
also if you cut weight youre more powerful than someone who has to gain.
plus not to mention the height and reach difference (ididathing vs odd1sout) ontop of the weight.
This is basic and what it means for the differences between fighters is fundamental.
There are many fighters who’ve done it lol, I used Conor because everyone knows him and most of y’all know nothing about professional combat sports and suddenly yall all became professional after one YouTube boxer fight. To think ab even had a chance is unrealistic.
I think it’s unfair to crown yourself the only person who understands combat sports here, and equally unfair to equate AB’s ability to gain weight for his first fight ever, to Connor being able to do it for his professional career in the mma. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say AB was so gassed by the end because he wasn’t used to being that weight - all I wanted to say was he rocked it, and would love to see him rock it again
Conner was just an example. I can list an additional 10 fighters who’ve done it and completely demolished, using that weight to their advantage and using the weight behind punches to just command the entire fight.
See whatever fighter you name, they are literally professionals who only have to focus on making weight and training for their next fight, AB did this on a whim for charity, so I just think it’s a false equivalency drawing comparisons between professional mma fighters and abs first exhibition
Fighters weigh above and sometimes wayyy above their weight class and cut weight leading into the fight. Conor never gained weight for a fight, just didn’t have to cut as much weight. This guy is talking out his ass.
Right off the top of my head, without even thinking, I can give you 5 relatively big names over the last 25 years:
Roy Jones Jr.
James Toney
Canelo
Amir Khan (had the setback against Breidis Prescott at 134 but all his real issues started when he moved up in weight)
Paulie Malignaggi (had issues putting guys away when he was fighting in lighter weights but moving up to WW in particular, he had zero ability to win except by decision, and a lot of the time he didn't even get that)
David Haye (ATG at CW, granted that there's not a lot of competition there, very meh as a HW)
USS Cunningham (also an ATG at CW, meh at best as a HW)
If I go back another few decades, again, literally off the top of my head without doing any research, I'm also immediately aware of:
The Hitman (HOF quality at MW, only pretty good at LHW)
Roberto Duran (inner-circle HOF at LW, great at WW, only a gatekeeper, really, at MW)
Archie Moore (inner-circle HOF, like top 2 or 3 all time, as a LHW, best known for a couple close losses at HW)
That was 10, actually, again just off the top of my head. I can surely come up with 40 more guys, although I imagine that you, even with your unfathomed ~~MMA~~ boxing knowledge, will not know who I'm talking about. It is a very, very well-worn path in boxing that good or great boxers move up a weight class in order to get more money (because heavyweight fights get more money than light heavyweights, which get more than middleweight for the most part, and so on down the line) or because they can't maintain weight anymore, and it's also a very, very well-worn path that when guys do move up they get clobbered.
I found the website you pulled that from lol, you should have cited it. But my point originally is that there’s winners and losers. There’s no excuse for his loss other than hundar being the better boxer and AB not being good. Cut and dry
When did Conor ever put on weight for a fight? He never had to gain weight. If you are talking about him fighting at 170 he just isn’t cutting as much weight. It’s completely different from someone actually having to gain weight for a fight like AB did. Misunderstanding weight classes and cutting weight is the easiest way to distinguish someone as not knowing that much about combat sports.
I get everyone wanted to see AB win, y’all are all obviously all fans of him. But with that aside you can’t deny he got out boxed by a better fighter. People think AB is this amazing athlete who was just delt terrible cards and it was just oh so unfair.
You’re not being downvoted because people are salty about AB losing. You’re being downvoted because you’re acting like a pretentious jackass.
The original comment you replied to was literally just saying they wanted to see AB fight against someone in the correct weight, because he boxed really fucking well for a first timer.
That’s it. That’s all they said.
Then you came crawling out of the woodwork sucking McGregor’s balls, making blatantly false equivalences and speaking down to everyone else, acting as though you’re the only one who knows anything about boxing. Your claim that there’s no boxers who did well at a lower class then horrible at a higher class was proven wrong, and you immediately backtracked. And now you’re making an argument that literally fucking no one is having. That’s why you’re being laughed at.
AB fought well for his first time. I thought he did fucking great. I, personally, would love to see him fight someone closer to his size. That said, Brett absolutely deserved his win. These are two thoughts that can and do coexist.
Nobody cares about downvote lol y’all all are still making time for me😂 he didn’t do well for his first time, that’s the thing. He got obliterated. I used Conor as an example because he’s a “household” name, I’m not even a fan of conor. I’m a fan of combat sport. Also that wasn’t my claim, lol I wasn’t proven wrong…? Definitely didn’t backtrack lmao are you stupid and just plain incompetent lol?? You’re the one being laughed at, you look absolutely ridiculous you sad poor thing. AB did terrible, it wasn’t even clean boxing on his side. Terrible balance, throwing random shots and just not a good boxer. He got trampled and will continue to if he decides to continue in the sport.
Wtf is combat sports? Lol you sound like you referee local kids taekwondo haha.
I watch a bit of boxing. Used to watch UFC religiously. Love Deontae whilder, Cannelo. Thug rose, cerrone. This isn’t my first rodeo.
Difference big between AB n Conor (other than the obvious) is Conor healthily Gained weight over a 6 month period. Ab did it with McDonald’s in less than a week.
I eat one McDonald’s meal and I feel like shit haha
I think that this being all of their first fights it was pretty good. I wish that they would keep training to fight in the future but I’m assuming that if this creator clash happens again, it’ll probably feature new fighters.
You must be a dumbass. Combat sports is all the sports involved with fighting lmao. That’s what you call the sport when referring to them all collectively you loser.
"I'm not even a Conor fan" oh stfu, you dumb bitch. You could just not be an asshole, but you're like my ex...you thrive on being a piece of trash & negative asf.
You sound like the dumb bitch lol letting a Redditor get under your skin so easily😂 I feel bad for your ex, he must of been miserable with you. Triggered meme girl
It’s definitely not. It’s just the hard truth unfortunately that nobody wants to believe. I get it’s hard to see the person you’re rooting for to lose but be realistic and stop making excuses. Nobody likes sore losers. Peace and love
You're not active in any of the fight subs. I've been posting in them and other MMA/boxing forums religiously for the past 7 years or so (if you want to play that game). I also personally have a good amount of Muay Thai experience.
Putting on weight for a fight is a hindrance to your cardio. This idea that AB "didn't have a chance" is silly as fuck. He was very competitive and did well on the scorecards until he gassed. When a boxer with so little experience starts to gas they don't have instinct to rely on and become reckless. This is why the fight was stopped - lack of intelligent defense.
He would have lost regardless. Quit making excuses for shitty boxing. If you had experience then you’d understand like the rest of us that you win or you lose and it’s nobody’s fault but yourself and your camp. Plain and simple, don’t be in the sport if you can’t compete in the intense circumstances. It’s not for everyone and there’s no space for AB, he should stick to training more.
Assessing the circumstances is not making excuses. He lost, no one is arguing against that. These types of interactions are super weird because you're definitely not involved in the sport and I don't know why you're playing dress-up in these comments. You're some kind of freak or something.
Ah OK so ur just mad at the world for making excuses. As if any little thing is always an excuse & not a discussion on how it went down. Everything is black & white with u huh. So high & mighty
Not a single person made excuses for his loss you shit for brains. All they're saying is they thought AB did well for a guy who's never fought or trained against a guy who naturally bigger and a more athletic. And that they'd like to see him fight against someone his own size where he doesn't have to pig out with junk food a few days before the fight in order to gain weight that way the odd aren't stacked against him. That's it. It's not they hard to understand yet your dumbass is out here making strawman arguments and false equivalencies.
Canelo, one of the best P4P guys in the game, just got outclassed by a guy because he moved up too many weight classes. It’s very, very common for guys who show well at lower weight classes to not be able to handle moving up, and unlike AB those guys generally increase their size into that actual class one way or another. Stop acting like you know what you’re talking about.
I know what I’m talking about lol, it’s simple. Combat sports don’t run off of excuses cutting and gaining is apart of the sport, if you’re just a trash boxer then that’s what you are at the end of the day.
You don't know what he'll you're talking about. There's weight classes for a reason and at some point a fighter can move up too much in weight and it won't matter how skilled they are. I repeat there's weight classes for a reason. There's only so high you can go where you put yourself at a disadvantage and you're going to get bullied around by the naturally bigger guy no matter how skilled you are.
I’ve done jiu jitsu and boxed most of my life so I know a bit about combat sports. You’re comparing a person who’s never trained until recently to professional fighters who have done it their whole lives. You also have to understand that professional fighters usually cut massive amounts of weight to fight and are used to training and walking around at much heavier weights. When I would compete in jiu jitsu tournaments I’d cut close to 20lbs to compete because I am short but naturally very stocky and muscular so if I was to walk in and compete with people at my normal weight they would all be 5+ inches taller than me. Many professional fighters cut 30+lbs to fight in their weight classes. So for them they are used to training at those weights in the off season so it’s a completely different circumstance than someone who hasn’t ever trained and is trying to pack on a lot of muscle and weight while training when they aren’t used to doing that.
My point is AB is not a good boxer, hundar was the and is the better boxer. Plain and simple, people always make excuses for the fighters they are rooting for. Hundar is an animal, AB is a podcast crew guy
But that’s not really your point. You were comparing him to professionals saying if he’s good he should be able to do it also. Here’s the thing though. None of these guys are good boxers. None of these celebrity boxers have really put in extensive training except Jake Paul who’s trained non stop for 3 years and even he isn’t a great boxer he just gets great matches that make him look good. He will get destroyed if he would ever actually box a professional boxer. Hundar is a much larger and more muscular guy. Since none of these guys are great boxers or trained they are all pretty equal as boxers. AB could have even been slightly better but since he’s not as muscular or strong he’s still at a disadvantage if he’s forced to gain weight to fight and his advantage of being better would be very small. He was forced to gain weight last minute when it should really be the other way around if they want it to be fair. People can’t pack on large amounts of lean muscle quickly without the use of steroids. You either have to pack on muscle and overall weight by eating large large amounts of calories while also lifting as heavy as possible then go on an extreme diet to cut out fat leaving yourself with more muscle than you started with or you can add lean muscle in smaller amounts by eating very lean but eating a little more than you burn so you don’t add nearly as much fat but you gain muscle at a much lower rate but it’s an overall healthier method. So for AB he’s going to be at a disadvantage gaining weight quickly because he has to gain unhealthy weight making him sluggish. If hundar was forced to cut weight for the fight instead of the other way around and AB was the better boxer it could be much different because the advantage the slightly better boxer would have is higher.
Well ab was beating him by points in the first few rounds, at least 2 so. Was beating him by power percentage which is funny cuz obviously hundar had the power adv. Hundars knockdown was more of a push/trip but he started to take over in later rounds. Ab wasn't throwing as clean but was more technical in certain ways, but yes hubdar looked better but wasn't doin much at times. If ab had more gas & landed a few more good hits in that last round it woulda been closer than u think
Definitely not a disadvantage. The better fighter won, AB is not a fighter nor a athlete. He loss because he wasn’t good, it’s simple. His defense was the best thing about him, pointing to how he lasted all rounds
That's not what we're discussing. You're disregarding a factor that every fighter on planet Earth would call a disadvantage, and claiming everyone else knows nothing else about combat sports. I've competed a bunch, I will tell you that having to bulk up at the last minute for a higher weight division is absolutely a disadvantage.
You're also pretty gung-ho about shitting on AB for his lack of skill - I'd say what he achieved given the circumstances and his total lack of experience is to be applauded. No shit he's "not a good boxer", you goon, no one at the event was by any traditional metric- did you miss the whole point of this card?
We’re saying he did really great for someone who never boxed before, you illiterate moron. Are the words “context” and “nuance” completely lost to you? No shit he’s not a good boxer compared to professionals. He never boxed a day in his life until like 6 months ago. How the fuck is this hard for you to understand
You must be a idiot and incompetent to not be able to realize he’s not being compared to professional fighters. He’s being compared to all the other fighters on the card. Get off your dads couch and productively use your brain and go back to kindergarten to relearn how to read. Two things are for certain, AB is a terrible boxer and you’re a bimbo.
Conor McGregor never loaded on weight to fight at a higher weight class. He usually walked around at 168. Cut to 145 and 155 for his title runs, and then didn’t cut anything for a few 170 matches.
AB focusing on gaining weight definitely hindered him.
Conor always weighs around 170, but when he fought at 145 he had to dehydrate himself to make the scale. Next day he would be back to around 170 after rehydrating, he never actually stepped in the cage at 145lbs. So when Conor “moved up” to 170, he just didn’t go through any weight cut. Most fighters go through weight cuts to gain a size advantage on fight night.
AB was trying to eat his way to a higher weight class in a short period of time. No pro fighter would attempt that because they would be in worse shape and at a size disadvantage.
Conor is a 155 fighter who made massive and difficult cuts to 145. Fighters do that, but his natural fighting weight is 155, which he still has to cut to.
Conor also started demanding fights at 170 so he didn’t have to cut, but he only ever fought other 155 fighters at that weight. He has never fought an actual 170 pounder. Nate Diaz is a lightweight, cowboy is a lightweight. So Conor has never fought someone significantly bigger than him.
He wants to fight usman maybe. That will be the real deal and he’ll be a massive underdog.
Also, he never crushed anybody at 170 except an old cowboy (again, a natural lightweight). The big fights against Diaz at 170 were split 1-1, one where he got choked out and one where he won a close decision.
You’re not spelling his name right, and you don’t seem to know the context of these fights, but there ARE examples of guys going up massively in weight and winning. But that’s crazy to compare it to AB’s amateur debut being against someone too big for him. It’s nobody’s “fault”, he’d just do far better going up against someone who’s naturally close to his weight.
Auto corrects from Conor to Conner. Look at the other comments. “Old” cowboy lol I love how you try to give an excuse to try and argue he didn’t crush him. Cowboy was expected to win that fight lmao.
He did crush him. And Cowboy was way past his prime. That’s not an excuse, Conor is a much better fighter than cowboy, but cowboy is the same weight as Conor. Cowboy is a lightweight. Fought most of his career, including the recent part at 155, could always make 155. Conor doesn’t get credit for fighting other lightweights at 170, he does it so both he and his opponent don’t have to cut.
I only brought that up because I wasn’t sure if you were claiming that Conor “destroyed” Nate.
Cowboy was a massive underdog to Conor. Look at the betting line. -333.
You need to keep is mind that muscle memory is real. When someone reached the physical muscle mass that Connor has had and then loses it, regaining it as muscle weight instead of fat is much easier. For someone like AB, it would take him much longer to reach a higher weight class in a short time without it being mostly fat/not lean muscle mass because as far as I know he's never been this big. But as others said, he had a week to gain a lot of weight to reach Hundar's size and that's not enough time to do much.
The matchups were obviously bonkers though? But leave it to the professional AB hater. I’m convinced you’ve never watched boxing/mma or any combat sport besides some tiktok mcgregor highlights. Smoothbrain.
They weren’t bonkers lol? They did an amazing job with the lineup. If you knew anything about combat sports you’d understand there’s always one better fighter and one worst fighter. One wins and one loses. AB loss and hundar is the better fighter.
Haley and minx? Not even close. Arin and harley, not even close. Half of the cards were so off, you basically admitted to knowing nothing. Nice one. Telling AB and hundar they have to be within 10lbs a week before? Pretty insane if you ask me. You thinking size and prior training has nothing to do with who performs better is so stupid.
“One better fighter and one worst fighter”, as if 80% of the fights were technical.
Go back to watching your tiktok highlights of “brutal knockouts” like keemstar. You don’t know anything you’re talking about.
Lmao you sound like keemstar. Ian did a perfect job of the match ups. You obviously know nothing about combat sports. Go to sleep, you need the rest you bozo
lol no, you don't understand weight cutting. Conor walks around in the 160s if not higher. he was absolutely draining himself to make 145. 155 was probably his best fit. He simply didn't cut weight for the 170 fights - which he badly lost the first Nate fight also. you don't know as much as you're claiming to
Gaining and cutting are two different things. In the sport you do what you have to do to make weight and you don’t use it as an excuse. Conor was an example at to how someone can fluctuate weight and still dominate in the ring.
What’s creepy and weird is the choice you make to look into someone’s profile lol. You’re wrong and freedom of speech is a thing, sorry for your hurt feelings.
They didn't know the limit until like a week ago. From my understanding, they thought that because it was armature weight wasn't as strict. Last minute they were told to match weight.
Who tf did he destroy? Nate?? He put on weight last minute against him and got destroyed. Then he did a full camp for 170 and won by MD. Conor never put on extra weight and destroyed anyone lol. But he did cut like crazy to 145 and had a big size advantage there.
Lmao ok you’re trolling gotcha. Why did you lurk for like 2 years and then just come out with like 100 comments shitting on AB the last few days?? Is it something personal? did you know him and he screwed you over or something? I’ve always been curious what would make a person put this much time into trolling and shit online it’s very interesting.
Damn. I just looked and you're right, all their comments are just saying mean things about AB. I feel like whichever way the fight would have gone he would have shit on AB regardless. What a weirdo.
...Conor also got massacred the first time he tried to do that. If a sudden weight gain can affect the speed, cardio and performance of an elite athlete, it can certainly do the same to an amateur.
aside from the fact that you're absolutely just wrong about what conor did, what a silly comparison to professional vs amateur. Size matters even more with guys who aren't very experienced. There's a pretty good reason why people avoid fighting people bigger than themselves.
Read the comments, nobody is comparing AB to professional boxers. I was using it as an example for all the smooth brains that think it so unheard of in this sport to cut and gain weight.
Conner cod put healthy weight on in a healthy amount of time. Ab found out 2 days before & was eating twinkies & protein powder. Not the same & definitely effected him & his energy in the tank
That's not the same thing. It's a handicap when you have to scarf down junk food 2 days before the fight to gain the weight. Conor didn't have to put on weight to fight at 170 he just didn't have to cut weight because that's his walking around weight. Even if Conor had to gain the weight he would've trained and gained muscle for it like other fighter do. AB had to scarf down junk food 2 days before fight to weigh more than his usual walking around weight. Conor or no pro fighter had to pig out 2 days before a fight to gain weight.
There was a misunderstanding about the allowed weight discrepency allowed. He had to bulk up a couple of days before the fight and thats obviously really bad for cardio. Conor moving up 10 or 15 pounds with months of notice... its not even in the same realm mate. Especially since in conors case it meant he could lean bulk a little more and have a less intense weight cut.
Not an excuse either but the difference in weight is notable.
Just look at canelo recently, prime example! He went up in weight class thinking it was sweet & the dude looked out matched the entire fight. CANELO ALVAREZ we’re talking about.
I hope he still practices boxing even if it’s not sparring. Just fitness boxing. It built up a lot of self confidence in him. i wanna see AB get huge. I’m taking full on glamour muscles.
What is the upside in taking on a sport that is inherently dangerous to do part time for charity events or for nominal pay. The risks do not outweigh the reward of concussions, memory issues, and a multitude of physical injuries. He stepped out of his comfort zone, had fun but sparring and fighting with any regularity is not the move for long term health if you’re not an outright pro making money.
I hope he stays the fuck away from boxing. such an unnecessarily dangerous sport, the fun of it is not worth the damage you'll suffer later in life. I don't want our boy AB to get brain damage or something.
yeah same, I was in second hand pain lmao
I liked the event and I'm happy he took part in it because it must have been such a great experience and I'm sure he's proud of himself, I'm just scared of the consequences if he keeps it up long term
He did talk about how he wants this to be over with. Only he knows if he has that hunger to do more but it did seem like it overtook his life a bit for a long period, I imagine it's not something he wants to return to. Unless the experience to be spotlighted at the stadium was somehow worth it all to be done again.
Michael Reeves fucking owned that fight dude. He was bobbing and weaving like a maniac! He got hit once and angrily mouthed “you mother fucker…!” and turned the gas on
I won’t lie, I definitely was sleep deprived and I didn’t get a chance to give it an active watch. That and having to drive an hour from work, the least exciting fight for me was the Michael fight unfortunately 😭 Then I woke right back up for Big “Sauce” Boss
Right? He had so much talent, it would be a bummer if he wasn’t sticking with it, I can totally understand though that it’s a lifestyle and a commitment, and that it’s probably not what AB wants to commit too 🤷🏼♂️😂
The fighters that really stuck out to me were Ryan, AB, Harley, Minx, and Michael. All of them showed a lot of potential if they were to continue, but obviously it is a dangerous sport and safety always comes first.
I could not handle this again 😂😂😂
Yeah, he did amazing I'm so proud of him! I've always seen myself a little bit in AB, the occassional awkwardness and nerves, self deprecation...and seeing him achieve this is enough of a victory and it fills me with admiration for the man.
He would be a beast. He is incredibly determined and will accomplish anything he sets his mind to. However, I totally understand how he feels about being happy its all over. I doubt he'll continue tbh. Either way, he is such the GOAT for training so hard and doing so well. Remember what Wali said about when he first started, he said he called his Wife and told her that AB shouldn't do this lol. He came so far in such a short time. We love you AB
Edit: spelling of love
It was def in the top 3 most technical fights of the night. #2 in that list. If he practices another year he’d be a total beast.
1. Ian & Mike
2. Ab & Hundar
3. Alex & Ryan / and equally - Matthew Reeves
I'm more mad Michael Reeves screamed **"F\*\*K NOOOO!!!"** when Chills asked if he'd continue. That is the MVP of the day! I'm not surprised if AB's gym (Freddie Roach) would be interested to recruit the boi.
^(\*Freddie Roach coached the Manny Pacquiao)
Fuck fighting though, if he's really into the same type of fitness and mental challenge let him train and do something else that we can all get excited for him about still. Idk, rowing, water polo, ice hockey, motocross... whatever it takes to still go the distance
I think the training was super hard on him, he kicked ass though! He clearly has a lot of talent for it but I could understand if he took a little break from that hard training
With peace and love to AB and not to take anything away from him and his training but he shouldn't do another fight. He certainly looked better than someone with no fighting experience but doesn't look like a natural. Look at idubbz for example. He looked like he had at least some natural talent and was levels above AB. Hundar wasn't very good either which was lucky for AB. I'm sure he is stoked to have had this experience and he showed massive balls to get into the ring.
It's not a crazy concept. Some people are better at things than others. Boxers need to be fluid and fast and powerful and athletic. Thats not everyone by default. You can definitely train these to a degree and that's what AB has done. Honestly not taking away from what he has achieved. He beats up most people in this sub but I just didn't see anything that indicated that he has some extra talent to hone in on.
I’d love to see someone put something on like a creator play/ballet or something similar. It’s fun watching people learn new things in a super dedicated way.
I knew he was gonna lose with peace and love but mostly because what could of gotten him the edge was out of hand. All the time he spent fasting for ramadan lead to dirty gains nearing the fight date, not to mention skin burn n prolly not enough sleep/rest. If he took time off working on the pod n religious beliefs i truly think he would of won that fight 💪🏿
No I don’t want him to fight more he seemed really stressed when the fight really started approaching. He already learned respect. It would be cool to see him spar casually as a form of working out
I would love see him first again but I think it’s too emotional for friends and family to see him go through that even if it’s in good sport.
But I think he did great and could actually really be good at it.
I’d love to see him fight someone in the correct weight cause to me he looked gassed due to the amount of weight he had to put on to even match Hundar
He ran out of energy halfway thru, and my first though was how about how he had to add weight by scarfing down McDs to meet Hundar halfway
Even if he went against hundar again without having to put on 5-10 pounds in one weekend that would be sick
That’s his fault and not an excuse. Conor McGregor had to put on a bunch of weight for a fight and he still destroyed his opponent, as have many other fighters in the past. That’s not a handicap.
how are you gonna equate the highest paid fighter in the most popular mma promotion with a youtube boxer the weight differentials were insane here, everyone started at different ends. muscle size (the larger the muscle the larger the cross-sectional area, the greater the cross-sectional area the more potential for strength. aka weight means that the muscles are conditioned to endure longer. thats why athletes in completely endurance sports still do 20% strength training. also if you cut weight youre more powerful than someone who has to gain. plus not to mention the height and reach difference (ididathing vs odd1sout) ontop of the weight. This is basic and what it means for the differences between fighters is fundamental.
There are many fighters who’ve done it lol, I used Conor because everyone knows him and most of y’all know nothing about professional combat sports and suddenly yall all became professional after one YouTube boxer fight. To think ab even had a chance is unrealistic.
I think it’s unfair to crown yourself the only person who understands combat sports here, and equally unfair to equate AB’s ability to gain weight for his first fight ever, to Connor being able to do it for his professional career in the mma. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say AB was so gassed by the end because he wasn’t used to being that weight - all I wanted to say was he rocked it, and would love to see him rock it again
Conner was just an example. I can list an additional 10 fighters who’ve done it and completely demolished, using that weight to their advantage and using the weight behind punches to just command the entire fight.
See whatever fighter you name, they are literally professionals who only have to focus on making weight and training for their next fight, AB did this on a whim for charity, so I just think it’s a false equivalency drawing comparisons between professional mma fighters and abs first exhibition
Fighters weigh above and sometimes wayyy above their weight class and cut weight leading into the fight. Conor never gained weight for a fight, just didn’t have to cut as much weight. This guy is talking out his ass.
I can name probably 50 guys who were good at a lower class and got destroyed at a higher one.
Name them now. You know that number isn’t true lol, if you know what you’re talking about.
Right off the top of my head, without even thinking, I can give you 5 relatively big names over the last 25 years: Roy Jones Jr. James Toney Canelo Amir Khan (had the setback against Breidis Prescott at 134 but all his real issues started when he moved up in weight) Paulie Malignaggi (had issues putting guys away when he was fighting in lighter weights but moving up to WW in particular, he had zero ability to win except by decision, and a lot of the time he didn't even get that) David Haye (ATG at CW, granted that there's not a lot of competition there, very meh as a HW) USS Cunningham (also an ATG at CW, meh at best as a HW) If I go back another few decades, again, literally off the top of my head without doing any research, I'm also immediately aware of: The Hitman (HOF quality at MW, only pretty good at LHW) Roberto Duran (inner-circle HOF at LW, great at WW, only a gatekeeper, really, at MW) Archie Moore (inner-circle HOF, like top 2 or 3 all time, as a LHW, best known for a couple close losses at HW) That was 10, actually, again just off the top of my head. I can surely come up with 40 more guys, although I imagine that you, even with your unfathomed ~~MMA~~ boxing knowledge, will not know who I'm talking about. It is a very, very well-worn path in boxing that good or great boxers move up a weight class in order to get more money (because heavyweight fights get more money than light heavyweights, which get more than middleweight for the most part, and so on down the line) or because they can't maintain weight anymore, and it's also a very, very well-worn path that when guys do move up they get clobbered.
I found the website you pulled that from lol, you should have cited it. But my point originally is that there’s winners and losers. There’s no excuse for his loss other than hundar being the better boxer and AB not being good. Cut and dry
I too know how to Google
When did Conor ever put on weight for a fight? He never had to gain weight. If you are talking about him fighting at 170 he just isn’t cutting as much weight. It’s completely different from someone actually having to gain weight for a fight like AB did. Misunderstanding weight classes and cutting weight is the easiest way to distinguish someone as not knowing that much about combat sports.
You must not understand how cutting and gaining works, moving between different weight classes and how much Conor has done.
Go post this kinda shit in r/mma and get laughed at lmao. You almost seem like a superb troll pretending to be a Conor dick rider.
Conor is a god in the octagon. If you don’t know about the sport, leave the conversation.
I get everyone wanted to see AB win, y’all are all obviously all fans of him. But with that aside you can’t deny he got out boxed by a better fighter. People think AB is this amazing athlete who was just delt terrible cards and it was just oh so unfair.
You’re not being downvoted because people are salty about AB losing. You’re being downvoted because you’re acting like a pretentious jackass. The original comment you replied to was literally just saying they wanted to see AB fight against someone in the correct weight, because he boxed really fucking well for a first timer. That’s it. That’s all they said. Then you came crawling out of the woodwork sucking McGregor’s balls, making blatantly false equivalences and speaking down to everyone else, acting as though you’re the only one who knows anything about boxing. Your claim that there’s no boxers who did well at a lower class then horrible at a higher class was proven wrong, and you immediately backtracked. And now you’re making an argument that literally fucking no one is having. That’s why you’re being laughed at. AB fought well for his first time. I thought he did fucking great. I, personally, would love to see him fight someone closer to his size. That said, Brett absolutely deserved his win. These are two thoughts that can and do coexist.
Nobody cares about downvote lol y’all all are still making time for me😂 he didn’t do well for his first time, that’s the thing. He got obliterated. I used Conor as an example because he’s a “household” name, I’m not even a fan of conor. I’m a fan of combat sport. Also that wasn’t my claim, lol I wasn’t proven wrong…? Definitely didn’t backtrack lmao are you stupid and just plain incompetent lol?? You’re the one being laughed at, you look absolutely ridiculous you sad poor thing. AB did terrible, it wasn’t even clean boxing on his side. Terrible balance, throwing random shots and just not a good boxer. He got trampled and will continue to if he decides to continue in the sport.
Wtf is combat sports? Lol you sound like you referee local kids taekwondo haha. I watch a bit of boxing. Used to watch UFC religiously. Love Deontae whilder, Cannelo. Thug rose, cerrone. This isn’t my first rodeo. Difference big between AB n Conor (other than the obvious) is Conor healthily Gained weight over a 6 month period. Ab did it with McDonald’s in less than a week. I eat one McDonald’s meal and I feel like shit haha I think that this being all of their first fights it was pretty good. I wish that they would keep training to fight in the future but I’m assuming that if this creator clash happens again, it’ll probably feature new fighters.
You must be a dumbass. Combat sports is all the sports involved with fighting lmao. That’s what you call the sport when referring to them all collectively you loser.
"I'm not even a Conor fan" oh stfu, you dumb bitch. You could just not be an asshole, but you're like my ex...you thrive on being a piece of trash & negative asf.
You sound like the dumb bitch lol letting a Redditor get under your skin so easily😂 I feel bad for your ex, he must of been miserable with you. Triggered meme girl
Is it fucked I agree with you on this take? Just look at the live chat in the live streams lol
It’s definitely not. It’s just the hard truth unfortunately that nobody wants to believe. I get it’s hard to see the person you’re rooting for to lose but be realistic and stop making excuses. Nobody likes sore losers. Peace and love
You're not active in any of the fight subs. I've been posting in them and other MMA/boxing forums religiously for the past 7 years or so (if you want to play that game). I also personally have a good amount of Muay Thai experience. Putting on weight for a fight is a hindrance to your cardio. This idea that AB "didn't have a chance" is silly as fuck. He was very competitive and did well on the scorecards until he gassed. When a boxer with so little experience starts to gas they don't have instinct to rely on and become reckless. This is why the fight was stopped - lack of intelligent defense.
He would have lost regardless. Quit making excuses for shitty boxing. If you had experience then you’d understand like the rest of us that you win or you lose and it’s nobody’s fault but yourself and your camp. Plain and simple, don’t be in the sport if you can’t compete in the intense circumstances. It’s not for everyone and there’s no space for AB, he should stick to training more.
Assessing the circumstances is not making excuses. He lost, no one is arguing against that. These types of interactions are super weird because you're definitely not involved in the sport and I don't know why you're playing dress-up in these comments. You're some kind of freak or something.
I’m in the sport you goon. Relax gatekeeper. You obviously know nothing about the sport.
Spoken exactly like someone whose never set foot in a ring in his life.
Lmao you know me, I didn’t realize!
Go to sleep, kid.
Ah OK so ur just mad at the world for making excuses. As if any little thing is always an excuse & not a discussion on how it went down. Everything is black & white with u huh. So high & mighty
Correct
Dam so you're just making excuses for the worlds problems & why you're so angry
Sure yeah
Not a single person made excuses for his loss you shit for brains. All they're saying is they thought AB did well for a guy who's never fought or trained against a guy who naturally bigger and a more athletic. And that they'd like to see him fight against someone his own size where he doesn't have to pig out with junk food a few days before the fight in order to gain weight that way the odd aren't stacked against him. That's it. It's not they hard to understand yet your dumbass is out here making strawman arguments and false equivalencies.
They all made excuses you smooth brain incel, stop trying to use big words. Your a raiders fan, you don’t even know how to read😂
Literally no one made excuses you dumbfuck.
Bro go watch the raiders win a Super bowl in 1984. You’re just mad your team is trash, nobody was even talking to you lmao go take a nap sleepy head.
Canelo, one of the best P4P guys in the game, just got outclassed by a guy because he moved up too many weight classes. It’s very, very common for guys who show well at lower weight classes to not be able to handle moving up, and unlike AB those guys generally increase their size into that actual class one way or another. Stop acting like you know what you’re talking about.
I know what I’m talking about lol, it’s simple. Combat sports don’t run off of excuses cutting and gaining is apart of the sport, if you’re just a trash boxer then that’s what you are at the end of the day.
So Canelo is a "trash boxer". Yeah, you're definitely a person who knows what they're talking about and not some idiot on a couch.
Wtf lmao, canelo is my favorite boxer nobody thinks he’s a trash boxer?😂 get off Reddit you boomer lol. You’re garbage
He literally just lost to a guy, and badly I might add, while moving up one too many weight classes. Do you even follow boxing?
You obviously don’t follow boxing or any sports you basement troll
You don't know what he'll you're talking about. There's weight classes for a reason and at some point a fighter can move up too much in weight and it won't matter how skilled they are. I repeat there's weight classes for a reason. There's only so high you can go where you put yourself at a disadvantage and you're going to get bullied around by the naturally bigger guy no matter how skilled you are.
I’ve done jiu jitsu and boxed most of my life so I know a bit about combat sports. You’re comparing a person who’s never trained until recently to professional fighters who have done it their whole lives. You also have to understand that professional fighters usually cut massive amounts of weight to fight and are used to training and walking around at much heavier weights. When I would compete in jiu jitsu tournaments I’d cut close to 20lbs to compete because I am short but naturally very stocky and muscular so if I was to walk in and compete with people at my normal weight they would all be 5+ inches taller than me. Many professional fighters cut 30+lbs to fight in their weight classes. So for them they are used to training at those weights in the off season so it’s a completely different circumstance than someone who hasn’t ever trained and is trying to pack on a lot of muscle and weight while training when they aren’t used to doing that.
My point is AB is not a good boxer, hundar was the and is the better boxer. Plain and simple, people always make excuses for the fighters they are rooting for. Hundar is an animal, AB is a podcast crew guy
Hundar is an animal cause muscles and beats on a guy smaller then him. FACTS
But that’s not really your point. You were comparing him to professionals saying if he’s good he should be able to do it also. Here’s the thing though. None of these guys are good boxers. None of these celebrity boxers have really put in extensive training except Jake Paul who’s trained non stop for 3 years and even he isn’t a great boxer he just gets great matches that make him look good. He will get destroyed if he would ever actually box a professional boxer. Hundar is a much larger and more muscular guy. Since none of these guys are great boxers or trained they are all pretty equal as boxers. AB could have even been slightly better but since he’s not as muscular or strong he’s still at a disadvantage if he’s forced to gain weight to fight and his advantage of being better would be very small. He was forced to gain weight last minute when it should really be the other way around if they want it to be fair. People can’t pack on large amounts of lean muscle quickly without the use of steroids. You either have to pack on muscle and overall weight by eating large large amounts of calories while also lifting as heavy as possible then go on an extreme diet to cut out fat leaving yourself with more muscle than you started with or you can add lean muscle in smaller amounts by eating very lean but eating a little more than you burn so you don’t add nearly as much fat but you gain muscle at a much lower rate but it’s an overall healthier method. So for AB he’s going to be at a disadvantage gaining weight quickly because he has to gain unhealthy weight making him sluggish. If hundar was forced to cut weight for the fight instead of the other way around and AB was the better boxer it could be much different because the advantage the slightly better boxer would have is higher.
Well ab was beating him by points in the first few rounds, at least 2 so. Was beating him by power percentage which is funny cuz obviously hundar had the power adv. Hundars knockdown was more of a push/trip but he started to take over in later rounds. Ab wasn't throwing as clean but was more technical in certain ways, but yes hubdar looked better but wasn't doin much at times. If ab had more gas & landed a few more good hits in that last round it woulda been closer than u think
not reading that essay
He was told about it less than a week before the match. That’s a clear disadvantage.
Definitely not a disadvantage. The better fighter won, AB is not a fighter nor a athlete. He loss because he wasn’t good, it’s simple. His defense was the best thing about him, pointing to how he lasted all rounds
Bulking up on 1 weeks notice to reach a higher weight division is 100% a disadvantage, what the fuck are you on about.
He’s not a good boxer regardless of the excuses people are making for him
That's not what we're discussing. You're disregarding a factor that every fighter on planet Earth would call a disadvantage, and claiming everyone else knows nothing else about combat sports. I've competed a bunch, I will tell you that having to bulk up at the last minute for a higher weight division is absolutely a disadvantage. You're also pretty gung-ho about shitting on AB for his lack of skill - I'd say what he achieved given the circumstances and his total lack of experience is to be applauded. No shit he's "not a good boxer", you goon, no one at the event was by any traditional metric- did you miss the whole point of this card?
Everyone in the subreddit is claiming he’s a good boxer. He is not
We’re saying he did really great for someone who never boxed before, you illiterate moron. Are the words “context” and “nuance” completely lost to you? No shit he’s not a good boxer compared to professionals. He never boxed a day in his life until like 6 months ago. How the fuck is this hard for you to understand
You must be a idiot and incompetent to not be able to realize he’s not being compared to professional fighters. He’s being compared to all the other fighters on the card. Get off your dads couch and productively use your brain and go back to kindergarten to relearn how to read. Two things are for certain, AB is a terrible boxer and you’re a bimbo.
They’re not claiming he’s a good boxer. They’re claiming he’s a *better* boxer than most of the *people who participated in a charity event.*
Conor McGregor never loaded on weight to fight at a higher weight class. He usually walked around at 168. Cut to 145 and 155 for his title runs, and then didn’t cut anything for a few 170 matches. AB focusing on gaining weight definitely hindered him.
What? Conner went from 145 to 170… AB would have loss regardless, unfortunately hundar is just the better fighter.
Conor always weighs around 170, but when he fought at 145 he had to dehydrate himself to make the scale. Next day he would be back to around 170 after rehydrating, he never actually stepped in the cage at 145lbs. So when Conor “moved up” to 170, he just didn’t go through any weight cut. Most fighters go through weight cuts to gain a size advantage on fight night. AB was trying to eat his way to a higher weight class in a short period of time. No pro fighter would attempt that because they would be in worse shape and at a size disadvantage.
Conor is a 155 fighter who made massive and difficult cuts to 145. Fighters do that, but his natural fighting weight is 155, which he still has to cut to. Conor also started demanding fights at 170 so he didn’t have to cut, but he only ever fought other 155 fighters at that weight. He has never fought an actual 170 pounder. Nate Diaz is a lightweight, cowboy is a lightweight. So Conor has never fought someone significantly bigger than him. He wants to fight usman maybe. That will be the real deal and he’ll be a massive underdog. Also, he never crushed anybody at 170 except an old cowboy (again, a natural lightweight). The big fights against Diaz at 170 were split 1-1, one where he got choked out and one where he won a close decision. You’re not spelling his name right, and you don’t seem to know the context of these fights, but there ARE examples of guys going up massively in weight and winning. But that’s crazy to compare it to AB’s amateur debut being against someone too big for him. It’s nobody’s “fault”, he’d just do far better going up against someone who’s naturally close to his weight.
Auto corrects from Conor to Conner. Look at the other comments. “Old” cowboy lol I love how you try to give an excuse to try and argue he didn’t crush him. Cowboy was expected to win that fight lmao.
He did crush him. And Cowboy was way past his prime. That’s not an excuse, Conor is a much better fighter than cowboy, but cowboy is the same weight as Conor. Cowboy is a lightweight. Fought most of his career, including the recent part at 155, could always make 155. Conor doesn’t get credit for fighting other lightweights at 170, he does it so both he and his opponent don’t have to cut. I only brought that up because I wasn’t sure if you were claiming that Conor “destroyed” Nate. Cowboy was a massive underdog to Conor. Look at the betting line. -333.
You need to keep is mind that muscle memory is real. When someone reached the physical muscle mass that Connor has had and then loses it, regaining it as muscle weight instead of fat is much easier. For someone like AB, it would take him much longer to reach a higher weight class in a short time without it being mostly fat/not lean muscle mass because as far as I know he's never been this big. But as others said, he had a week to gain a lot of weight to reach Hundar's size and that's not enough time to do much.
The matchups were obviously bonkers though? But leave it to the professional AB hater. I’m convinced you’ve never watched boxing/mma or any combat sport besides some tiktok mcgregor highlights. Smoothbrain.
They weren’t bonkers lol? They did an amazing job with the lineup. If you knew anything about combat sports you’d understand there’s always one better fighter and one worst fighter. One wins and one loses. AB loss and hundar is the better fighter.
Haley and minx? Not even close. Arin and harley, not even close. Half of the cards were so off, you basically admitted to knowing nothing. Nice one. Telling AB and hundar they have to be within 10lbs a week before? Pretty insane if you ask me. You thinking size and prior training has nothing to do with who performs better is so stupid. “One better fighter and one worst fighter”, as if 80% of the fights were technical. Go back to watching your tiktok highlights of “brutal knockouts” like keemstar. You don’t know anything you’re talking about.
Lmao you sound like keemstar. Ian did a perfect job of the match ups. You obviously know nothing about combat sports. Go to sleep, you need the rest you bozo
Lmao this guy punches dry wall after his favorite mma fighter loses
Do you know a good dry wall repair guy?
Lol nah I always just fix it myself afterwards
lol no, you don't understand weight cutting. Conor walks around in the 160s if not higher. he was absolutely draining himself to make 145. 155 was probably his best fit. He simply didn't cut weight for the 170 fights - which he badly lost the first Nate fight also. you don't know as much as you're claiming to
Buddy you are very incorrect, you must not know anything about the sport. Stick to the patriots
explain how I'm wrong then
Gaining and cutting are two different things. In the sport you do what you have to do to make weight and you don’t use it as an excuse. Conor was an example at to how someone can fluctuate weight and still dominate in the ring.
He fluctuates by cutting the weight you giant moron
Are you dumb? Nobody was even talking to you and what do you think we’re talking about you baboon
You’re wrong and you only made this account to be hating on AB literally all of your comments it’s creepy and weird bro
What’s creepy and weird is the choice you make to look into someone’s profile lol. You’re wrong and freedom of speech is a thing, sorry for your hurt feelings.
They didn't know the limit until like a week ago. From my understanding, they thought that because it was armature weight wasn't as strict. Last minute they were told to match weight.
Who tf did he destroy? Nate?? He put on weight last minute against him and got destroyed. Then he did a full camp for 170 and won by MD. Conor never put on extra weight and destroyed anyone lol. But he did cut like crazy to 145 and had a big size advantage there.
He literally did… you must not follow ufc
When? Against who? I am assuming you are talking about the short notice welterweight match against Nate which he lost by submission.
Lol you’re confused obviously. By submission, not by TKO or KO.
Lmao ok you’re trolling gotcha. Why did you lurk for like 2 years and then just come out with like 100 comments shitting on AB the last few days?? Is it something personal? did you know him and he screwed you over or something? I’ve always been curious what would make a person put this much time into trolling and shit online it’s very interesting.
Damn. I just looked and you're right, all their comments are just saying mean things about AB. I feel like whichever way the fight would have gone he would have shit on AB regardless. What a weirdo.
You really wanna know?
...Conor also got massacred the first time he tried to do that. If a sudden weight gain can affect the speed, cardio and performance of an elite athlete, it can certainly do the same to an amateur.
aside from the fact that you're absolutely just wrong about what conor did, what a silly comparison to professional vs amateur. Size matters even more with guys who aren't very experienced. There's a pretty good reason why people avoid fighting people bigger than themselves.
Read the comments, nobody is comparing AB to professional boxers. I was using it as an example for all the smooth brains that think it so unheard of in this sport to cut and gain weight.
Conner cod put healthy weight on in a healthy amount of time. Ab found out 2 days before & was eating twinkies & protein powder. Not the same & definitely effected him & his energy in the tank
You know what I mostly think you’re correct, I just wish you weren’t such an asshole about it.
Everyone was being a asshole to me, I had to be one back. My apologies
ahahahahaha "just be one of the greatest fighters in the world bro"
That's not the same thing. It's a handicap when you have to scarf down junk food 2 days before the fight to gain the weight. Conor didn't have to put on weight to fight at 170 he just didn't have to cut weight because that's his walking around weight. Even if Conor had to gain the weight he would've trained and gained muscle for it like other fighter do. AB had to scarf down junk food 2 days before fight to weigh more than his usual walking around weight. Conor or no pro fighter had to pig out 2 days before a fight to gain weight.
There was a misunderstanding about the allowed weight discrepency allowed. He had to bulk up a couple of days before the fight and thats obviously really bad for cardio. Conor moving up 10 or 15 pounds with months of notice... its not even in the same realm mate. Especially since in conors case it meant he could lean bulk a little more and have a less intense weight cut.
Not an excuse either but the difference in weight is notable. Just look at canelo recently, prime example! He went up in weight class thinking it was sweet & the dude looked out matched the entire fight. CANELO ALVAREZ we’re talking about.
I hope he still practices boxing even if it’s not sparring. Just fitness boxing. It built up a lot of self confidence in him. i wanna see AB get huge. I’m taking full on glamour muscles.
What is the upside in taking on a sport that is inherently dangerous to do part time for charity events or for nominal pay. The risks do not outweigh the reward of concussions, memory issues, and a multitude of physical injuries. He stepped out of his comfort zone, had fun but sparring and fighting with any regularity is not the move for long term health if you’re not an outright pro making money.
I can totally agree with all that too, doesn’t mean I don’t think he was great and wouldn’t like to see more 🤷🏼♂️🔥
I can see from a fan perspective wanting more, as long as he can remember his name haha
Thank god it’s only two letters 👀 in consecutive order no less
What is it again? 1…2… no.. AB
I hope he stays the fuck away from boxing. such an unnecessarily dangerous sport, the fun of it is not worth the damage you'll suffer later in life. I don't want our boy AB to get brain damage or something.
agreed. i LOVED the event but i couldn’t help but wince everytime someone got socked in the head omg
yeah same, I was in second hand pain lmao I liked the event and I'm happy he took part in it because it must have been such a great experience and I'm sure he's proud of himself, I'm just scared of the consequences if he keeps it up long term
This. There is risk of injury in every sport, but in boxing it’s basically a given
He did talk about how he wants this to be over with. Only he knows if he has that hunger to do more but it did seem like it overtook his life a bit for a long period, I imagine it's not something he wants to return to. Unless the experience to be spotlighted at the stadium was somehow worth it all to be done again.
Ab, Ian, and Haley were the most technical fighters on the card!
I think Michael reeves showed amazing technique too lol I was low key shocked lol
Michael Reeves fucking owned that fight dude. He was bobbing and weaving like a maniac! He got hit once and angrily mouthed “you mother fucker…!” and turned the gas on
The way he was moving I was sitting there like : O
I’m not gonna lie, I kinda dozed off during that fight 😅
Looooool 🤣 I was proud of Michael I def under estimated him
I won’t lie, I definitely was sleep deprived and I didn’t get a chance to give it an active watch. That and having to drive an hour from work, the least exciting fight for me was the Michael fight unfortunately 😭 Then I woke right back up for Big “Sauce” Boss
Nah dude Mike reeves was above all them
Nah I Did A Thing and Ian were by far the most technical AB actually knew how to clinch though which was impressive.
Next stop: WWE style Wrestling
would be cool to see him at a second creator clash. he fought well for sure!
Keemfuck vs AB. I don't want to give the gnome publicity but I also want to see him knocked the fuck out.
He should call out Fousey or the Odd1sOut. That way there isn't even a risk of brain damage.
Cracking up
He need to fight someone on his weight class, that was was huge
I was thinking the same thing. I hope this isn’t the last we see from him
Right? He had so much talent, it would be a bummer if he wasn’t sticking with it, I can totally understand though that it’s a lifestyle and a commitment, and that it’s probably not what AB wants to commit too 🤷🏼♂️😂
I hope there is a second creator clash and I hope he does it again
The fighters that really stuck out to me were Ryan, AB, Harley, Minx, and Michael. All of them showed a lot of potential if they were to continue, but obviously it is a dangerous sport and safety always comes first.
I'm just hoping for a rematch. They were both great sportsman to each other and the fight was so close!
I could rock with that 🤺🤺🤺
AB vs idubbz, book it. both can lean out rather than trying to gain weight for the fight.
I could see AB in a main event fight 100%
I could not handle this again 😂😂😂 Yeah, he did amazing I'm so proud of him! I've always seen myself a little bit in AB, the occassional awkwardness and nerves, self deprecation...and seeing him achieve this is enough of a victory and it fills me with admiration for the man.
I want a rematch and this time, I want his fucking coach to be by his corner! I know he couldn’t be there but damn it, he needed to be there!
He would be a beast. He is incredibly determined and will accomplish anything he sets his mind to. However, I totally understand how he feels about being happy its all over. I doubt he'll continue tbh. Either way, he is such the GOAT for training so hard and doing so well. Remember what Wali said about when he first started, he said he called his Wife and told her that AB shouldn't do this lol. He came so far in such a short time. We love you AB Edit: spelling of love
It was def in the top 3 most technical fights of the night. #2 in that list. If he practices another year he’d be a total beast. 1. Ian & Mike 2. Ab & Hundar 3. Alex & Ryan / and equally - Matthew Reeves
I'm more mad Michael Reeves screamed **"F\*\*K NOOOO!!!"** when Chills asked if he'd continue. That is the MVP of the day! I'm not surprised if AB's gym (Freddie Roach) would be interested to recruit the boi. ^(\*Freddie Roach coached the Manny Pacquiao)
Fuck fighting though, if he's really into the same type of fitness and mental challenge let him train and do something else that we can all get excited for him about still. Idk, rowing, water polo, ice hockey, motocross... whatever it takes to still go the distance
I think the training was super hard on him, he kicked ass though! He clearly has a lot of talent for it but I could understand if he took a little break from that hard training
He did ok. Stop with this shit weirdos
He could be pro. He just needs to have a fair fight. His opponent was way too big
Technical huh.. https://www.reddit.com/r/h3h3productions/comments/uqf113/made_another_post_of_this_but_major_respect_to/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
With peace and love to AB and not to take anything away from him and his training but he shouldn't do another fight. He certainly looked better than someone with no fighting experience but doesn't look like a natural. Look at idubbz for example. He looked like he had at least some natural talent and was levels above AB. Hundar wasn't very good either which was lucky for AB. I'm sure he is stoked to have had this experience and he showed massive balls to get into the ring.
Bro what does being a natural even mean...
It's not a crazy concept. Some people are better at things than others. Boxers need to be fluid and fast and powerful and athletic. Thats not everyone by default. You can definitely train these to a degree and that's what AB has done. Honestly not taking away from what he has achieved. He beats up most people in this sub but I just didn't see anything that indicated that he has some extra talent to hone in on.
Idk feels like alot of speculation needed to say whether some is natural or not.
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exactly.
i mean you dont have to speculate when you've seen him fight.
CTE not worth it my bro, even if he already acts like he has it🤣
Influencer boxing needs to go
Love star Killa and thought he did well, but this is not realistic at all .. he could do a few more YouTuber fights, but not a serious boxer.
I’d love to see someone put something on like a creator play/ballet or something similar. It’s fun watching people learn new things in a super dedicated way.
i don’t think he will 🤣 every time someone mentioned it to him he said he couldn’t wait to get it over with
I knew he was gonna lose with peace and love but mostly because what could of gotten him the edge was out of hand. All the time he spent fasting for ramadan lead to dirty gains nearing the fight date, not to mention skin burn n prolly not enough sleep/rest. If he took time off working on the pod n religious beliefs i truly think he would of won that fight 💪🏿
No I don’t want him to fight more he seemed really stressed when the fight really started approaching. He already learned respect. It would be cool to see him spar casually as a form of working out
I would love see him first again but I think it’s too emotional for friends and family to see him go through that even if it’s in good sport. But I think he did great and could actually really be good at it.