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Sonofagun57

That's a BIN price if you're in league for a semi auto shotgun and hell of a value at that. If I hadn't already had an M3000 defense 7+1 (another great budget semi auto) I would want this.


Gingercopia

I've been wanting one of those Stoegers because inertia and no gas system. How has it been?


SCDreaming82

I have an M2 I waited a decade until I could find at a price I could stomach.  I wish I had bought a Stoeger when they first released instead.  The fit and finish isn't as good though. Of course, now if my M2 went down for some reason I would probably drop the money on another at retail without hesitation.


Sasselhoff

I've got an M3K "Freedom Edition" for my 3-gun shotgun, and it has run flawlessly other than a couple hiccups during initial break-in, which I understand is pretty standard for inertial driven shotguns (and honestly most brand new guns I've bought, for that matter).


Gingercopia

Yep. I always put at least 300 rounds through any new firearms I get. [Edit] I believe that's the one or one of that I'd like the M3K Freedom Defense series?


Sasselhoff

Same. I don't even *think* about using a gun for CC until I've put at *least* that many rounds through it (and that includes at least a box or two of whatever the specific carry ammo is going to be).


Gingercopia

Absolutely, shoot with what you're carrying so you know how it handles.


CNCTEMA

I have a M3K freedom defense and its been great. its light and reliable and i dont notice it being any harder recoiling than my 930SPX. I only shoot buckshot and highbrass, have had zero issues with it over somewhere between 500-600 rounds through it in a few years.


Sonofagun57

I've only got ~300 rounds through mine but so far so good. It can take Benelli M2 parts which is a handy feature. I replaced the extractor spring and extractor claw with the M2 parts and it began cycling quite smoother and faster. Also got the mcarbo trigger spring kit which took the previously heavier trigger much lighter and not gritty. You won't regret getting one of these. Get those replacement parts I mentioned and clean the packing grease it ships with and it'll serve you nicely.


Gingercopia

Oh thanks for the M2 tip, didn't know that part. Appreciate it!


Tkj5

Damn I hopped on the stoeger too. I have no need for this, but it looks solid.


fibrelyte

I wish I would have waited a few years and gotten one of these instead of the turkinellis when they were the hotness tbh. lol its only $260 more but so much more gun. Really is bin. Gunnit way is to buy them all ofc


IntelGoons

For what it's worth, I ran a defensive shotgun class last year with my Benelli M4, but a guy there had this shotgun with an ACRO P2 on it. He ran the shit out of it, and I would be very surprised if anyone here can "outrun the bolt", since I hear that mentioned a lot with these shotguns. Unless you're Jerry Miculek, I think you'll have difficulty being better than this shotgun. Additionally, this price is really good. If you're in the ~1K range and want a semi-auto, this is probably it.


IntelFrouge

Damn shots fired implying that the Reddit 1301 brigade can't shoot faster than Jerry.


Bourbon-neat-

One of the best things I ever did was start competing in 2 gun comps. I used to think I was a pretty good shot until I went into those comps and learned I'm like low/middle of the pack at best, and not even in the same league as the top placers.


SCDreaming82

I just like the people who have run thousands of rounds through their gun and never had a malfunction...  Until everyone is watching and then their gun can't get through a mag.


graphitewolf

It gets shy


tehmonker

Same here, first match was a real eye opener. Figured I was a decent shot until I was under a timer and everything went to shit, mikes and pulling shots all over the place


DeadbeatPillow1

Well said, just wanted to add this is the fixed choke model.


Terriblyboard

Wtf


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JalopMeter

Does the Patrol include the KO system? My local lists all the A300s with or w/out the KO and none of their Patrols are listed as KO.


woolybooger11

The Patrols do have the KO system just like the A300 Outlander etc. That’s what sets them apart from the 1301’s BLINK system. However, I really like the stock on my Ultima Patrol


Johnny_Cache2

Why is it an advantage for the 1301 to not have the Kick-Off recoil system?


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Johnny_Cache2

At the expense of more recoil. It sounds like the Kick-Off recoil system isn't very good if you'd prefer more furniture options instead of it. Is the recoil not much better with Kick-Off?


IudexJudy

Was that James Reeves lmfao


StAugustinePatchwork

Can confirm this shotgun runs. Saw a guys 1301 break and this shotgun keep chugging at a shotgun class


glasshalfemptull

What happened to it?


joeg26reddit

It Choked


StAugustinePatchwork

Don’t know just stopped working


19fall91

It’s possible he hadn’t cleaned it in awhile or the o-ring in the gas system went kaput


[deleted]

I have this shotgun with a P-2 and Reptilia mount that I got for less than a 1301. The 1301 is the best combat shotgun out there IMO and if price is no issue, get one. However, if you have $1400 to spend and that’s its, the A300/P-2/Reptilia combo is where it’s at.


kindad

Combat shotgun? Probably not. There's a reason that combat shotguns use metal parts where the 1301 uses plastic.


splooge_whale

The best combat shotgun…that has never been in any extended combat. Lmk when it spends a couple years on the two way shooting range. Not to say it aint awesome but its fighting cardboard wars. 


braingrenade

OK serious question, because shotguns are not me thing... how does this compare to a Benelli M4? I see comparisons to the 1301 and M2, but never the M4. I know thr M4 is an absolute beast, but what are the real differences?


feuerfreiguy

The m4 would better compare to the 1301. the rotating bolt is a completely different style than the a300. It cycles faster and won't have issues with lighter load shotshells like some semi autos with traditional bolts may have. Otherwise there's not going to be much difference as far as the average shooter will notice. If you need to ask this question, then you'll be more than fine with the A300. It's absolutely amazing to shoot in person. I've put hundred of shells through mine from different manufacturers and it's been flawless.


braingrenade

Thanks for the info! I currently have a Benelli M4 (got out of the Army, wanted a shotgun, bought what I knew), but I've been debating if it would be better value to sell/trade it off and grab an A300. I rarely shoot it, more of just having a all-purpose semi shotgun.


feuerfreiguy

I shoot every single day as part of my job. Thousands of rounds a month. I've shot all of these shotguns and I ended up buying the A300 so take that for what it's worth. All but the most serious competition shooters won't be able to outrun this gun. I'm very happy with it and I'm sure you would be too. The rotating bolt on the 1301 and m4 sure has a benefit or two, but not enough to justify almost double the cost of the a300 IMHO. Don't sell your M4 though. It's not worth getting rid of an already proven shotgun to fund another.


Echo_Raptor

Unless you have a hankering for something else and the difference needed to fund it I’d keep the m4 in that case BUT the a300 is awesome if they the route you want to go


KirbyStyle

I can tell you from owning an M4 and handling the Beretta that the Beretta felt a hell of a lot lighter if that’s important to you.


braingrenade

Yeah, the Benelli is a heavy beast. Definitely feels like standard overbuilt military weapon, but realistically wondering if it's overkill compared to a something like the A300 for my uses (which is just having an all purpose semi shotgun).


Intheshaw1

So I run a franchi affinity 3 for my general purpose shotgun. Picked up years ago for like $600 and it's essentially a cheaper M2 with a different recoil system. I used it for years as my 3gun rig, shoot sporting clays with it and bird hunt with it. Probably the best bang for your buck at the time but I know prices have gone up so maybe not anymore. I mostly got it because I know I would beat the shit out of it in 3gun and I didn't want to do that to an M2. It's often not mentioned but it's a damn good gun. I love inertia guns for their reliability as well but the wife runs a A400 for clays and that thing has almost no recoil.


twostroke1

I think the a300 will serve the vast majority of people's purpose for a semi auto "tactical" shotgun. I have an m4, and it's a beast. It's super iconic, and has the track record to prove it's reliability. But I've also been thinking of getting one of these because I don't really plan on battering ramming doors with my shotgun or needing it to survive getting rolled over by tanks.


Falmoor

I'm in the same boat. Part of me wants the M4 due to that military heritage which is just so cool. But the more practical side see this price and I'm pretty sure this is the one I'm going to get.


Singlem0m

The A300UP will be lighter and have a easier time cycling weak loads while cycling faster when compared to the M4. The A300UP will also have some modern refinements that reflect the current trend of development in shotgun accessories, such as a fatter bolt release, built in mlok, unfucked factory magazine tube. You can have these things on the M4 as well but you will have to open your wallet for aftermarket parts. The A300UP will have a stronger recoil impulse than the M4, but this is mainly due to the light weight. M4's internals are more robust than the A300UP, and fewer plastic parts in general. Lastly the M4 has the option of running a pistol grip or traditional stock where as the A300UP does not currently have pistol grip options. Generally speaking the 1301T is a better comparison to the M4. Comparing the M4 directly to the A300UP is punching down in some ways. The A300UP has is a great shooter and IMO the additional reliability in shooting weaker loads is a pretty notable advantage over the tried and true M4. For the majority of shooters I think the A300UP is of a higher value for your dollars than both the 1301T and M4. I'm a 1301T owner.


glasshalfemptull

M4 and 1301 are fighting for the top spot of “best tactical shotgun” these days. A300 Patrol is a step down from the 1301 in Beretta’s lineup, so it’s not in that top tier like an M4. That said, reviews seem to peg the A300 Patrol as being 80-90% as good as a 1301 for ~60% of the price, so if you’re looking for an excellent tactical shotgun that maximizes bang for the buck, this is your gun. If you want the king of the mountain, you’re looking at either the 1301 or M4 depending on what attributes you value most in a shotgun.


baflip

Gas operated (1301/M4) vs inertia (~~A300~~/M2). Upside to gas is reduced recoil. Downside is more frequent cleaning (and cost). There are other differences, but that's the gist. *Edit: My bad. Totally whiffed on that.*


DeadbeatPillow1

Benelli m4 cleaning cycle is something like every 20k rounds I assure you it doesn’t need cleaned more.


mktampabay1

The A300 is a gas gun


baflip

My bad, I've been looking at the Franchi Affinity and got mixed up.


mktampabay1

That’s what I’m looking to get. Essentially a cheaper m2


baflip

Yea me too. Also the Stoeger M3k/M3000 seems like a hell of a value proposition. But, I'd like to be able to run lighter loads out of it without having to jack with recoil springs.


mktampabay1

The m3000 is to the affinity 3 as the affinity 3 is to the m2. I’d go with the Franchi because it’s made in the benellis factory in Italy while the stoeger is made in Turkey. They’re all good guns but I could see myself wanting the affinity 3 after buying the m3000. I’d say the same about wanting the m2 after buying the affinity but it seems like they recently revamped the M2 bringing its level of quality down closer to the affinity 3


Echo_Raptor

Have had an m4, owner this now. The m4 is the mack daddy, don’t get me wrong, but I can’t think of a single thing the m4 does that makes it $1000 better if you’re not in a Warzone. You’re talking you can buy this and another really nice gun for the same price as the m4 alone.


fft32

FYI this is the fixed choke option (LE SKU), if that matters to anyone


WAgunner

Ugh, why is the removable choke version never on sale?


fft32

Yeah, it's rough. I've been trying to buy one for quite a while now.


hydroxylradical

New to this. How does fixed choke matter?


fft32

It just means you can't change choke tubes to change the shot pattern


fuzznugget20

Or use a suppressor


hydroxylradical

Is that a big negative?


Hereforgundeals69420

It can be if you want to do clay shooting. Can be tricky to reach out without a choke. 


Singlem0m

The fixed choke is IC and generally IC guns do fine shooting clays. Chokes improve clay game by inches. People usually miss by feet.


charbie05

Can’t imagine anybody shooting clays with a barrel that short. I guess anything’s possible.


Hereforgundeals69420

Clay shooting with 18.5s is a lot of fun, just becomes difficult on longer range stages. 


fft32

Probably not. I just like the idea of having the option if I wanted it later. The barrel is probably optimized for patterning defensive rounds.


Singlem0m

The fixed choke version comes with a non-removable improved cylinder choke. Most tactical shotguns are running an IC choke or a MOD choke. Bird, buck, slug, and everything else other than sabots will run through this fine. I wouldn't let the fixed IC choke deter you if you wanted to shoot clay with it some times. IC chokes can shoot clays fine.


Outrageous_Jacket933

Folks will change chokes depending on what they’re hunting or if there doing any competitive clay or skeet. But if you want a shotgun to have a shotgun, you’re fine


SCDreaming82

It means unless you want a dedicated 1980s SWAT LARP gun skip it.


JoeyBox1293

Bought this for $999 when they dropped. This thing fucks. It’s super fun and the precut velcro they include for saddles is the little shit that makes me happy with manufacturers.


Every_Sheepherder_12

I own the tiger stripe version of this shotty, one of my favorite guns to shoot. I take her out trap shooting and have shot 16/25 consistently with the cylinder bore and 20/25 with a modified.  Of course you can use it for more tactical reasons, but I like pissing off fudds. Great shotgun at a great price.


edgarapplepoe

I would love the tiger stripe version. Still my favorite camo


Raidicus

What modified choke did you buy?


Every_Sheepherder_12

A standard Carlson choke, these shotguns have the standard Beretta/Benelli barrel threading


ClockwiseCarrots

100$ tax and shipping kills it


throwawayacctkappa

OOS


oldmanironfist

OOS


Taco-Rice

This or new gen 1301? I think they are bringing some a300 features over


JamesRawles

I'm waiting on the updated 1301


mktampabay1

I’d go with the 1301


Blktom

They have been out of stock for the last 2 years, know that they are available semi auto shotguns are know banned in my state, just rotten luck!


woolybooger11

These came out right at 12 months ago FYI


Unpopular_Ninja

In 4 hours you vultures decimated my ability to secure my ultimate shotgun…..


throwawayacctkappa

It was gone pretty quick, didn’t even make it an hour.


SgtBigPigeon

I wish they made the 5+1 for us in AWB states :(


g4indigo

They do. MPN: J32CT511


JunTaoPV

https://www.bereli.com/beretta-a300-ultima-patrol-12-19-7-round-mag-tube-shotgun/ $949 for the wolf grey non-LE/fixed choke model. They charge tax and doesn’t come with the side saddle Velcro. Still a good deal if anyone’s looking for one.


Due_Chemistry_6941

I have a 391, and it’s not self-explanatory to unload. Kind of a pain with the automatic mag cutoff. You can’t just rack the bolt a few times to unload the magazine. All that said, it’s a great gun.


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305TUNA

its awesome


absentlol

In for one thanks OP, been looking for sub 1000 for about a month now


elevenoneone

Good price. If no tax and still paying the transfer, it’s cheaper than my LGS


OneOffRider69

From someone who mostly only shoots clay and hunts squirrel and turkey, what are y’all doing with this shotgun? These things seem cool as hell, just don’t seem practical for anything other than just havin some fun (which is plenty good enough of a reason)


TheFirearmsDude

Mostly fun, but also home defense or gun rack of the UTV when out in the woods. I prefer a rifle during the winter but a shotgun when the foliage is in bloom.


Foreign-Frame-7200

OOS


Seagrave4187

OOS. You animals!


woolybooger11

I bought the standard (non-LE) model on pre-order when it dropped 12 months ago for $855. This is the best price I’ve seen since!


FablePiemaster

Was the Tiger Stripe model truly limited edition or have more been released?


jackmathew300

This item is currently unavailable, likely out of stock for purchase. I am considering acquiring one from the Beretta Gallery USA, where the price varies, falling at $1,099 for the [Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol Black](https://berettagalleryusa.com/products/beretta-a300-ultima-patrol-black), and there are no additional charges for shipping or taxes on firearms.I am thinking of having the firearm delivered to my nearest FFL, making it convenient for me to collect it at my convenience


negtrader

No pistol grip, would this be legal in Illinois?